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How Important is Stability in the Water to your Swim?
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I just posted up this video on some of the data I saw with the pro triathletes I worked with from the swim camp in January. I was able to use the EO Lab swim sensors with all of them and put some of it here for you. I was able to compare it to a swimmer who qualified and competed in the World Championships this past year. If there are any questions, please let me know.



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Re: How Important is Stability in the Water to your Swim? [SnappingT] [ In reply to ]
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This is amazing analysis!

After years old swimming poorly (many time Kona qualifier) I started back at square one and am slowing down and learning how to swim correctly. Its shocking how different it feels to swim with correct alignment less over rotation to breath and pulling straight back etc.. I think Brendan Ford said it best when he said rotation should be a rock and not a roll.

Looking foward to your future videos.
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Re: How Important is Stability in the Water to your Swim? [pokey] [ In reply to ]
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Glad you liked it. Always good to focus on your stroke, but don't slow down so much that you don't have the fitness to support the technique. If you have any questions about the analysis, let me know.

Tim

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Re: How Important is Stability in the Water to your Swim? [SnappingT] [ In reply to ]
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That is super cool Tim, I would love to come out sometime and check out your program there. DO the sensors work with strokes too? I wonder if we could build up an old man with hardwired programming, but is still willing to learn... (-;

I can see it now, 70 year old man crushes dreams....
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Re: How Important is Stability in the Water to your Swim? [SnappingT] [ In reply to ]
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That was great. Would love to visit you and get analyzed. The results would be embarrassing on my end, but it's what I need!
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Re: How Important is Stability in the Water to your Swim? [SnappingT] [ In reply to ]
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Are you planning to run any other camps / clinics? I checked the websites you listed but didn’t see anything - but perhaps I missed it
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Re: How Important is Stability in the Water to your Swim? [Paul822] [ In reply to ]
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I haven't announced it yet, but I am planning to do an age group version of the pro triathlete camp in the fall.

Tim

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Re: How Important is Stability in the Water to your Swim? [monty] [ In reply to ]
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The sensors work with other strokes too, although breaststroke is the stroke that the data is least telling.

You know you are welcome any time. I've always been able to get people faster no matter the age.

70 year olds crushing dreams sounds like a good project.

You'll appreciate this - I just worked with a kid this past year. It was his senior in high school. He had been overlooked. He was a good athlete. He wanted to break a minute for a 100 breast for his senior year. His best time had been 1:06. I told him it would be a big lift, but I was all about stretch goals. We did about 4 months of one on one lessons. He was consistent and worked hard. We completely changed his stroke and he ended up going 58 and placing 7th at Texas State.

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Re: How Important is Stability in the Water to your Swim? [littlefoot] [ In reply to ]
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Re: How Important is Stability in the Water to your Swim? [SnappingT] [ In reply to ]
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Cool - how can one sign up to hear more when announced?
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Re: How Important is Stability in the Water to your Swim? [SnappingT] [ In reply to ]
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His best time had been 1:06. I told him it would be a big lift, but I was all about stretch goals. We did about 4 months of one on one lessons. He was consistent and worked hard. We completely changed his stroke and he ended up going 58 and placing 7th at Texas State.//

I love this story, drops like that are so rare, and certainly would have been much appreciated. That is kind of what I'm looking for these days, as I have a hard wired brain of strokes learned in the 1970's, and trying desperately to get with the new faster versions that have evolved. I was a 1;03+ breast stroker as a senior in high school, but that was the old stop an go stroke that was all legs and the jersey power pull. I could have been that kid you helped, only of course no one knew(or was legal even) how to properly swim breast back then.


I really love the idea of this new power hands, and with all the ways to input it into formulas and such, can really fine tune that last 1% top swimmers, and that last 10% in good triathlete ones...It's one of the things I have always admired about you Tim, you dont get married to any style and are open to new discoveries, often even making them yourself...
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Re: How Important is Stability in the Water to your Swim? [Paul822] [ In reply to ]
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Re: How Important is Stability in the Water to your Swim? [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, it was a great day for him. The crappy part was how good he could have been if coaches had paid attention to him since his freshman year.

I remember that breaststroke. Your head couldn't break the plane of the water. Lundquist went 52 with that stroke. He used to come into the gym when the team was in there when I swam. He'd put every plate he could find on the leg press, press it once and walk out.

Thanks. I appreciate it. I was never much interested in being a coach that just did a lot of cutting and pasting.

Tim

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Re: How Important is Stability in the Water to your Swim? [SnappingT] [ In reply to ]
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Is propulsion measured by forward advancement (like strokes per length) or simply force applied to the hand surface?

I would like to correlate your data to performance on kick- board. Sounds like a joke but the kick board wraps everything up into one:

Control and core stability
Flexibility, range in shoulders, upper back
Hydrodynamic posture low drag

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Re: How Important is Stability in the Water to your Swim? [SharkFM] [ In reply to ]
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My understanding of how the sensors work is they have an accelerometer and a force plate in them. Sounds like it would be a little bit of both.

I don’t think it’s a joke. It’s part of the reason with the athletes I coach we do a lot of kicking.

I hope this helps and if you have any other questions, please let me know.

Tim

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