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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [RZ] [ In reply to ]
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RZ wrote:
Endo wrote:
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RandMart wrote:


Like her mom said in testimony, something happened just as that pic was taken, you can see it in her face

'Did you really just grab my ass?"


Looks like a drunken ass grab alright, but not the bare ass grab she alleges. The sides of her skirt would be rumpled upwards/pulled back if the back of the skirt had been pulled up for a bare ass grab. I think she exaggerated at the inception of this saga and she is now trapped in her exaggeration. No excuse for the guy's conduct, but she's not being totally honest either.


Something looks photo-shopped in that picture. In the picture the girl in yellow's chest is in front of Taylor...but if you follow that line between them down further, Taylor's skirt is in front of the other girl and its flared out and does not look natural. And it even looks like Taylor's thigh goes behind the other girls jean leg (which would make sense if the other girls upper torso is in front of Taylor). Something is off there. Almost like someone drew in part of her black skirt to be in front of the other girl. Not sure.

Also, look at the gap where here badge is hanging down, where the silver clip is. You see black, between there and the girl in yellow. Based on Taylor's body line, you should be able to see the white billboard behind that space.

Maybe it is just a very weird and awkward position, but I'm thinking something is fishy. That picture has been definitely doctored. And if that portion was doctored, I wonder if the other lines were touched up between Taylor and the DJ.

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Or maybe, just maybe, she's pushing herself into the other girl because someone just grabbed her ass?

I'm with you, but there was no bare ass grab. Through the skirt ass grab, probably, but not "skirt hiked up, palm on skin" grab. She exaggerated that part of her accusation, and I'm sure that's part of the case.

Knowing what I know about litigators, I could picture the guy's lawyer demanding to inspect the skirt and demanding that she wear it to demonstrate how it lays on her ass. I could even picture the guy requesting that she model the skirt and recreate her pose to demonstrate that the skirt was not hiked up in the back. I'm not kidding.

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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [windschatten] [ In reply to ]
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windschatten wrote:
Agreed, this smells and looks fake. I think Swift is copied into this picture. Top to bottom.
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [Endo] [ In reply to ]
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it is appalling all of the doubters here. no wonder women don't report sexual assault. she has nothing to gain from this -- it is likely a pain in her ass, loses her money, and opens her up to folks here who simply discredit her for what purpose? fucking don't mock, doubt, or cast blame on women who report sexual assault.

On my comments about the picture not looking right, it has no bearing on Swift's claim and was not making any suggestions otherwise to the validity of her story.

For all I know this picture was floated out out on the Internet and picked up by TMZ and is fake and has nothing to do with the actual trial. My comments were only directed at the picture circulating on the Internet and not meant in anyway to cast doubt on her story.

It seems it was used as evidence (I think?), found that out later. But my comments stand about the picture. It looks borked up and I believe it to be doctored. I also believe Taylor was groped.

I have the capacity to believe both of these thing simultaneously, based on the very limited information I have being reported by our trusted Media outlets. Shocker.

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Like you, I'm not doubting the story but agree something about the pic doesn't look right. Perhaps I'm trying to hard to agree!

The blonde lady has both boobs in front of TS yet the latter appears to have her right leg partially in front while standing upright with legs that look straight and parallel.

Also the contrast in hair looks very sharp. Is it common for celebs to put heads side by side (touching) with strangers?

So heads almost side by side, chest clearly in front but leg tucked behind. Seems like a bit of gymnastics. Then again who would PS a pic and for what purpose? Has there been any chatter elsewhere about pic or is this just LR Qb'ing?

TS sure owned the lawyer.
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [Crank] [ In reply to ]
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I'm with you, but there was no bare ass grab. Through the skirt ass grab, probably, but not "skirt hiked up, palm on skin" grab. She exaggerated that part of her accusation, and I'm sure that's part of the case.

Knowing what I know about litigators, I could picture the guy's lawyer demanding to inspect the skirt and demanding that she wear it to demonstrate how it lays on her ass. I could even picture the guy requesting that she model the skirt and recreate her pose to demonstrate that the skirt was not hiked up in the back. I'm not kidding.

I disagree. It appears to be a very light, loose fitting skirt. It is pleated, so, it "opens" like a fan. You could easily reach up the back without disturbing the front. TS was wearing thong underwear, which are quite common. That could result in a bare-ass grab.

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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [Crank] [ In reply to ]
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Pretty good explanation here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rqIwWBnyDU

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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Too bad she has an image she needs to keep. She seems like she'd be someone who'd deck him if it wasn't for that fact.


She's decking him with a far more potent weapon than her fist, and she's burnishing her image at the same time.

Pink [Philadelphia] or Xtina [Pittsburgh] would have swung at him

Girls from Reading don't do that sort of thing

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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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Does she first have to prove she even has an ass to be grabbed, counselor?

This photo seems to be irrevocable proof of a distinct lack of an ass.



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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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She's a beautiful woman, but a bit too skinny for my taste. That said, there is a butt, albeit tiny.







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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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Your second photo isn't helping your case. It clearly shows that she has no butt. None.

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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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Think you could get a court to take judicial notice of a TMZ explainer? ;-) Or would you need to designate an expert in skirt design and fabric behaviors when hiked up?

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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [Crank] [ In reply to ]
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Think you could get a court to take judicial notice of a TMZ explainer? ;-) Or would you need to designate an expert in skirt design and fabric behaviors when hiked up?

If we learned anything from OJ and Seinfeld, it's that she needs to try on the skirt.

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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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I know that the LR idiocracy will call me a SJW for posting this, but I find it in extremely poor taste to post pictures and sexually objectify a woman when the conversation is about her sexual assault.

But please carry on without me.

Not replying to you Ken.

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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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JSA wrote:
Crank wrote:
Think you could get a court to take judicial notice of a TMZ explainer? ;-) Or would you need to designate an expert in skirt design and fabric behaviors when hiked up?


If we learned anything from OJ and Seinfeld, it's that she needs to try on the skirt.

If the skirt don't lift, you must (find in favor of the plaintiff).

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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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Agreed. Super weird.








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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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I was thinking the same thing.

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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [wdrhoads] [ In reply to ]
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fucking don't mock, doubt, or cast blame on women who report sexual assault.

Except the ones who lie about it. They deserve all of the mocking, doubting, and blame casting possible. Actually, they belong in jail IYAM. And they do about the hugest possible disservice to those who are really victims.


But let's seriously focus on "don't doubt." Really? You don't literally mean that, right?
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [Dan Os Fan] [ In reply to ]
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There is also an area of not made up but blown out of proportion.

I was looking to give the guy a break until I saw the picture. While not incontrovertible evidence, that picture doesn't help him.

No kidding. Even if you cropped the gals out completely and posted that pic of him alone, he still just looks like he's grabbing some chick's ass off-camera...
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [OneGoodLeg] [ In reply to ]
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [ironclm] [ In reply to ]
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She only wanted $1 in her countersuit claim? Greedy bitch.






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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [rick_pcfl] [ In reply to ]
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Look at the fingers on his left hand. Kind of odd to have just two fingers in your pocket like that - unless it was a symbol for "the shocker", or whatever that is called.

Maybe those two things are done on purpose so he can joke with his friends about giving her the shocker.

Does nobody else see this????

His grin doesn't look like a "I'm going to smile for the camera", but a "hey guys, I'm giving TS the shocker"

Yup. Bang on analysis. ( just look at the faacking grin on the greasebag..lol)
I Wouldnt know one song of hers ( although my 7 yrold daughter sure does:) but admire her going after the pos .
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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JSA wrote:
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Or maybe, just maybe, she's pushing herself into the other girl because someone just grabbed her ass?


Exactly. While the picture does not provide definitive evidence, it absolutely, positively supports Swift's account of the events that transpired.


Logical fallacy...TMZ doctored the photo to give the issue some extra traction. Ever considered that?

What time do you live in?
Ever used Photoshop or similar?
You need glasses?

Really bad job by whoever did that, seriously.

It sure may have happened,
but the photo shown by TMZ is FAKE.
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [Spiridon Louis] [ In reply to ]
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agree -- throw the liars in jail. but don't doubt the ones who report. investigate, but don't doubt. doubting a presumed victim leads to less reports by actual victims. investigate all of them. throw the liars in jail.
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [wdrhoads] [ In reply to ]
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How about we just take it on a case by case basis?

Good grief. "Investigate but never doubt." Sure, OK.








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