Murphy'sLaw wrote:
NordicSkier wrote:
MarkyV wrote:
From what I got from the CDA P&L was that there were profit floors that had some rather remarkable profit margin percentage targets. i.e. they would still make a hefty profit at 1200 athletes but it wouldn't meet their internal targets (<-- my extrapolation).
#thanksprivateequity
I wonder how many greats races/venues has WTC taken over and then killed due to not meeting profit targets but otherwise would have continued under and independent RD?
Mooseman - RIP.
Timberman - RIP.
Timberman is mind boggling - they always had very large crowds there.
We stopped doing it in '09 - "it's so crowded, nobody goes there anymore."
2016 results show 2096 athletes.
2015 1859.
2014 2238.
For reference - 2009 had 2426.
If you can't turn a reasonable profit from 2k racers every year, then that's an RD problem, not the race or participants problem.
Mooseman was the perfect venue for a 400-600 person non WTC local event. I actually never got to to it as a local event and did it a few times as a WTC event, but it never really fit the WTC model and the course was "too tough" for the WTC 2000 person target. No problem getting 400 people who want a really tough course, but another 1600 people is a stretch.
Timberman I cannot understand why it can't be profitable. Must be something related to fixed costs of controlling the roads and state park etc.