You are joking right?

You have to buy new wheels

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I didn't know that. Darn! I am bummed out! Diamondback's Andean is one hot bike but I am not too thrilled about the HED Jet Disc wheel. It is not as stiff as Zipp's Super 9's and they don't seem to hold the speed as much. uggg. I wished I would have waited.

But the only reason I want the Diamondback Andean is because it looks so cool

Disc brake wheels have more spokes and larger hubs

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I read some reviews on the Diamondback Andean and as cool as it looks, one of the biggest complaints was it was very heavy.

I am not a fan of the HED JET Disc as it has an aluminum rim and spokes which will make it less responsive than the Zipp Super 9 I have.

HED wheels are excellent, and not less responsive. The HED Jet+ is 1210g, the Zipp Super9 1175g.

There is no shortage of people at the very pointy end of cycling competitions with spoked discs.

I saw on another thread, a person owned both and said the Zipp Super 9 felt lighter, more responsive, and held the speed a big better. I am not a pro athlete so every bit helps but I am sure HED paid this guy a lot to use their wheels. I had the old SRAM S80's and they were so heavy and sluggish feeling

Yea, that is just silly.

That's a woman, and she's not riding as a pro there, but as part of Team USA.

But I'm going to correct myself! It appears the HED Volo disc is spoke-less! I didn't know HED made spokeless discs anymore.

But I'm sticking to my guns. There is no evidence I know of that you're giving up any measurable performance with a HED disc. If you want to go with anecdotal evidence or perception, that's fine. And I don't mean that in a derogatory way - we all make decisions that way sometimes. I certainly do. And sometimes we just buy really nice expensive things, which is fine too.

Well if you really have cash burning a hole in your pocket, Zipp does make a disc brake version of their Super 9 disc.

hahaha,,,, I cannot afford another Zipp Disc! Maybe if I win lottery then yes. I will have to do more research on HED"s Jet Disc but there were others that said it was not as responsive as the Zipp Super 9. I have never rode the HED Jet Disc so I cannot say for certain but the JET Disc is basicaly a Zipp 808 with a cover.

The Jet disc is an aluminum rim with a full carbon cover bonded to the rim. The Stinger disc (if you want tubular) is a Stinger 9 with a carbon cover, but there is no disc brake version of a Stinger disc.

This is silly. The Jet+ Disc is faster than anything Zipp make. Same for the Jet 9+. There is no difference in 'response' (and if anything the Jet will be more forgiving).

Hmmmm not so sold on that. Another thread has users pretty much agreeing the hed felt more comfortable but zip felt faster.

'Felt faster'? Doesn't mean a thing. Of course, let's not pretend that you care more about speed than looks, or you wouldn't want an Andean.

I care about both looks and speed but i don't race so looks are probably more important. I will agree for the price, the Andean is simply the best value for the money as there is no middle man to take their cut in the price. I will have to see more side by side comparison of both wheels but after looking at the Andean, it did finish 3rd at Kona in its debut, but the guy who won it was on zipp wheels and a frame that was similar to Trek's speed concept. So much for the areo. The rider of the Andean inexplicably fell off the pace halfway. I think the weight of the bike finally got to him in spite of the fact maybe it is more aero than others.

You're splitting hairs. The speed diff between all these choices (the wheels, the frames) are so so small. Look at the wind tunnel results from the aero shootout.

You seem to base your opinion on what pros are winning on.....OK, so look at Lionel Sanders. He's ripping apart the bike courses on a HED Jet disc.

IMHO, the only reason not to buy a HED wheel is because the aluminum rim isn't as sexy looking as the Zipp carbon rim.

So much for the aero? It's not the bike that wins or loses or gets 3rd in anything, it's the athlete riding it. Aero differences between all the equipment being discussed here are incredibly thin.

holy cow. you have much to learn.

Jet Black. ;)

Does the finish last?

So far...

I am not overly impressed with my super 9. Seems you either adjust the lock ring to either have brake rub or excessive bearing friction. Replaced bearings but still the same.