lanierb wrote:
Carl wrote:
Overdesigned? How about purpose-designed to give the Madone 9 customer a really clean solution vs a kludged-on strap or band or similar?
Guess I kind of touched a nerve there, but yeah I see stuff like that as overdesigned. It a single purpose attachment point on one model of one bike that works with just a few models of one company's bike lights.
Exactly what it was designed for....with that particular customer in mind. It's not the only mount that works on that bike, and all five Bontrager rear lights I linked to are compatible with it and those other mounts.
lanierb wrote:
If you want a camera, or a brighter/different light, you have to use something else anyway.
Yes...ecosystems exist. See also Garmin. Or GoPro.
lanierb wrote:
And when you don't want a light at all, you can't remove it.
That Madone bracket slides over the existing seatpost clamp...it clips on and off in about 2sec...see that little hook at the bottom? Spring loaded. Easy peasy :-)
lanierb wrote:
I think even one of those attachment points is an eyesore, but imagine if you put single purpose unique attachment points on the bike for all possible items people might want -- seat bags, front and rear lights, front and rear cameras, multiple bottles, storage, etc? You end up with an aero touring bike, and worse, it's an aero touring bike where every part is manufacturer/year specific.
If it's a mounting point permanently attached to the bike, I agree with you. None of ours are. Nor are anybody else's that I'm aware of. There are just different degrees of unmounting "difficulty"...many these days are simple rubber bands with hooks...most of the rest involve maybe a phillips screwdriver.
lanierb wrote:
Next year when Trek decides it doesn't like that particular design anymore, and stops making 2016 Madone specific parts, it ceases to work with anything.
It'll continue to work with all of the bikes it was designed for. Why does the glass have to be half empty?
lanierb wrote:
So yeah I think it's overdesigned. I realize that's the way the whole industry is going, but I'm not big on it. I would prefer a nice simple elegant system for mounting the light to an aero seatpost, that I could put on all my bikes, even my speed concept (which I love by the way). Pretty sure I'm not alone on that, and that Trek could make some money by satisfying that demand.
We'll keep trying to do better.
Carl Matson