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ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think?
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Bike is too small for me - but the seller has listed it poorly in my opinion - this may be a steal if it is genuine





http://cgi.ebay.com/...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [oneforty.6] [ In reply to ]
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I'm sure that it will sell for at least $2500, if you can steal it for less then good for you!

Dave in VA
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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [DC Pattie] [ In reply to ]
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Dave



If it was a larger size - I'd be bidding

I think it will get up there - but with the wheels - and bar set up - it is a low price now.
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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [DC Pattie] [ In reply to ]
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I always get very suspicious when people put bikes like this on ebay on short auctions, also why keep the high bidder ID secret??

Hope someone doesn't get ripped off

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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [nimbleblade] [ In reply to ]
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exactly - part of the reason I put it up here
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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [oneforty.6] [ In reply to ]
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Hello, it has a lot of hallmarks of a scam. Cash or check, no location, no shipping insurance, short auction, high dollor item with no reserve, brand new, also no way is the weight under UCI regs.



Styrrell
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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [oneforty.6] [ In reply to ]
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I have an Issac Joule, the Kalibers sister bike. Its very nice but I think the Kaliber is a little nicer.

Dave in VA
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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [oneforty.6] [ In reply to ]
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I just asked the seller to post a picture of his receipt. We'll see what happens.
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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [oneforty.6] [ In reply to ]
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Here's another disturbing tidbit. Go to sellers feedback. Lots of positive feedback. Click on an item in the feedback. Look at sellers name. Different seller. Click on items for sale, no items for sale, not even a certain high dollar bike.



Styrrell
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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [nimbleblade] [ In reply to ]
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Does seem suspicious, though the "seller" has been on there a while with relatively recent activity (July '05)---anybody sent him an email yet?
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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [Mike C] [ In reply to ]
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Look closer, its not feedback for that seller.
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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [smtyrrell99] [ In reply to ]
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This one is a tricky one. The seller of the bike must be a female since items on feedback are female clothes bought by this seller (mostly except for the NASCAR hat). And since the bike is a small frameset, kind of fits the profile.



Still...I'd be cautious.



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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [smtyrrell99] [ In reply to ]
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Yea, he's just BOUGHT a lot of little crap to raise his score, in anticipation of this Big Score!

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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [tri-3] [ In reply to ]
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The one item listed as sold accepted paypal and listed a city, why not now.

Styrrell
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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [smtyrrell99] [ In reply to ]
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The 3% fee for say a $2500 bike will be much more than the 3% fee for some clothes. I have collected payments for tons of golf clubs, bikes, and a tanning bed and the 3% killed me! That could be one reason but I would still insist on paypal and pay his or her fees if I were to buy it. Not too much one can do if they send a money order for payment.

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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [smtyrrell99] [ In reply to ]
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[reply]Look closer, its not feedback for that seller.[/reply]

Uhmm, you need to look closer thier feedback is mostly as a buyer, so ya the seller is someone different.

this looks like only the 2nd thing they have sold.

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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [oneforty.6] [ In reply to ]
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This has scam written all over it

"The whole bike is brand new I have proof of purchase for all."

Proof of purchase? Why would she put that in there if the sale is legit? This sentence was written by someone that doesn't speak english as their first language,

"It weighs just on 6kg, it is actually under the legal uci minimum weight regs!!!!! You'll just have to put a slight heavier set of pedals on it if your racing tt, if your racing triathlon then you've got one of the lightest and aero bikes avaliable."

A 6 Kg bike? that's 13.22lbs, about 2.5lbs under the limit isn't it? Those would have to be some serious pedals to get it up to the limit.

She has titanium squewers? How about skewers.

city? state? cashier's check or money order -> I don't think so

I did the shipping calculator and it said $9.14 -> That's a great shipping rate.

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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [oneforty.6] [ In reply to ]
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scam!



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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [oneforty.6] [ In reply to ]
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I find it interesting to note that when using the auctions shipping calulator to determine how much to ship to my doorstep, it returns - Shipping & Handling: $7.14

No way that is reality as I paid $28.00 for UPS to deliver ground ship a frameset from the West Coast to the LBS last month!

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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [oneforty.6] [ In reply to ]
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Probablty the same seller that was selling Colnago c-40's a few years ago. For $2100 you were allowed ro pick any group set and virtually any wheelset you wanted. I selected capmy record with bora wheels. Would have been a good deal if was not a scam!
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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [paulthomas] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone missing a new bike? I wonder where it was lifted from??? I feel bad for the person who lost it...
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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [oneforty.6] [ In reply to ]
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I emailed the guy & received a response: $50 for shipping. However when I offered to p/u & pay cash, haven't heard back since. His email is markscomics@hotmaill.com Claims to live in Katy TX.

Most likely a scam based on the lack of similar sales & small $$ purchases.

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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [mopdahl] [ In reply to ]
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The only sale on record from the seller was in NY.

Styrrell
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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [mopdahl] [ In reply to ]
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I emailed the guy & received a response: $50 for shipping. However when I offered to p/u & pay cash, haven't heard back since. His email is markscomics@hotmaill.com Claims to live in Katy TX.

Most likely a scam based on the lack of similar sales & small $$ purchases.
How ironic - I live near Katy also. Now I have seen a guy in his late 40's, early 50's riding a Kuota on some of the local rides of late, but I am pretty sure that bike is a larger size and definitely not equipped with those aerobars. So if you want to be sure, e-mail him back and tell him you think you might have seen him out riding. Ask him if he has done any of the recent, Wednesday night training rides at Memorial Park over the last 2-months. Heres a hint, Wednesday nights at Memorial park are when the weekly training crit series has been held since June so for practical purposed the park is closed except to those in the race between 5:00 pm and 8:30 pm but tonight is the last race in this years series.

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Re: ebay item - Kuota Kailbur, Zipp 808's oval concepts - low price - what do you think? [ms6073] [ In reply to ]
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Interesting to note that the auction completed with a winning bid of more than ~$2700 but pulling it up now gets you the "This listing (7179329770) has been removed by eBay or is no longer available. Please make sure that you've entered the item number correctly." Ebay message! Looks like everyone was correct and it was a scam.

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