Hello All,
I read Ray Jardine’s book * some time ago and was impressed with his warrior (triathlete) approach to hiking the Pacific Crest Trail. (Faster is better)
I recall the book had charts showing the relationship between pack weight and daily distance hiked. A very light pack and gear resulted in much faster pace and much greater distance covered each day. (Also eat corn flour pancakes vs wheat flour for more energy.)
http://www.rayjardine.com/index.shtml
One of his tips to getting lighter was using the packaged lightweight plastic bottles for bottled water and other liquids vs Nalgene or regular hiking bottles.
(At that time Nalgene bottles were very heavy, now they are somewhat lighter)
The bottled water bottles look like they will provide some weight saving for training rides vs the old bike bottles.
Round top bike bottle 74mm diameter volume 795ml (filled to top) weight 97gm (Aero shape)
Flat top bike bottle 74mm dia vol 752ml (filled to top) wt 84gm (not aero shape)
Crystal Geyser 72mm dia vol 820ml (750 bottle) wt 26g (aero)
Arrowhead 72mm dia vol
Ethos (Starbucks) 72mm dia vol 780ml (700 bottle) wt 27g (aero)
3 bike bottles 252g
3 Crystal bottles 78g
Wt saved 174g
Equivalent dollar value in titanium or carbon fiber ………… Wow!
The Crystal Geyser and Arrowhead bottles have same size threaded top so you can use either the pull to suck cap or the flip top cap interchangeably. Either can be utilized like a bike bottle.
http://www.crystalgeyserasw.com/packaging/750MLS.jpg
http://www.arrowheadwater.com/Products/SportPack.aspx
Because of the slightly small diameter of the bottled water bottles you might need to use a rubber band to secure them if your carrier has a tendency to eject bottles although they usually fit perfectly.
What do you think?
Cheers,
Neal
Cheers, Neal
+1 mph Faster
I read Ray Jardine’s book * some time ago and was impressed with his warrior (triathlete) approach to hiking the Pacific Crest Trail. (Faster is better)
I recall the book had charts showing the relationship between pack weight and daily distance hiked. A very light pack and gear resulted in much faster pace and much greater distance covered each day. (Also eat corn flour pancakes vs wheat flour for more energy.)
- *The PCT Hiker's Handbook. By Ray Jardine. This book is out of print but may be found in some used bookstores or online. The author is one of the most experienced thru-hikers in the world, and presents his personal long distance, ultra-light (or lightweight) techniques and philosophies as well as practical information specific to the PCT. Jardine's techniques are not for everyone and sometimes controversial.
- Beyond Backpacking. By Ray Jardine. An updated and general guide to Ray Jardine's long distance hiking and ultra-light techniques. Again, these techniques are not for everyone and are not always appropriate.
http://www.rayjardine.com/index.shtml
One of his tips to getting lighter was using the packaged lightweight plastic bottles for bottled water and other liquids vs Nalgene or regular hiking bottles.
(At that time Nalgene bottles were very heavy, now they are somewhat lighter)
The bottled water bottles look like they will provide some weight saving for training rides vs the old bike bottles.
Round top bike bottle 74mm diameter volume 795ml (filled to top) weight 97gm (Aero shape)
Flat top bike bottle 74mm dia vol 752ml (filled to top) wt 84gm (not aero shape)
Crystal Geyser 72mm dia vol 820ml (750 bottle) wt 26g (aero)
Arrowhead 72mm dia vol
Ethos (Starbucks) 72mm dia vol 780ml (700 bottle) wt 27g (aero)
3 bike bottles 252g
3 Crystal bottles 78g
Wt saved 174g
Equivalent dollar value in titanium or carbon fiber ………… Wow!
The Crystal Geyser and Arrowhead bottles have same size threaded top so you can use either the pull to suck cap or the flip top cap interchangeably. Either can be utilized like a bike bottle.
http://www.crystalgeyserasw.com/packaging/750MLS.jpg
http://www.arrowheadwater.com/Products/SportPack.aspx
Because of the slightly small diameter of the bottled water bottles you might need to use a rubber band to secure them if your carrier has a tendency to eject bottles although they usually fit perfectly.
What do you think?
Cheers,
Neal
Cheers, Neal
+1 mph Faster