Part of my proposal here is that there are more scales of measuring people than good resumes. Often times the "best and brightest" in shitholes don't give even the tiniest little rat's ass about their fellow countrymen. That's not something that randomly occurs. That's something they learn everyday. You think we have entitled people in Western countries? You ain't seen nothing.

If you think you are out of the woods for poor citizenship candidates just because you're looking at a Ph.D. or something, then you are wrong.

Agreed. And not only that but the Browns may be suffering for many other reasons, like having been colonialized and abused for generations, had their natural resources pillaged and then left to cope with corrupt management. But SH just wants to blame the shitty players...

I don't believe that the white man is the only type of human being capable of agency in this world, no. But I can't make everyone think that.

Often? Can you provide any support for this assertion?

I'm half-hoping I've quoted you out of context or something, because frankly I find that statement appalling.

I've seen it, and you're correct, it is appalling. However, I get the sense that you find it also surprising.

Maybe you would only describe the "best and brightest" as people who did care about their fellow countrymen? That's fair. When I refer to "best and brightest" I'm using mostly power and class, which typically encompasses education too.

Edit: As far as providing more support... I have lived in highly disfunctional countries (shitholes). I am fascinated by these places. How can they exist in modern times? How might they be fixed? Any chance I get to commiserate and share theories with people that also have lived in similar countries, I do so.

You know, I thought about this a bit more. I don't see how the merit based system should be affected by country of origin. First, the merit based aspect would break things up already by keeping the incoming groups smaller. Second, it's almost impossible to know or quantify any of the other attributes I'm concerned about, so what am I going to do?

This is anecdotal.

In the years 2000-2002 I was stuck living on the Mexican side of the border in Nogales. We were stuck there waiting endlessly for my wife to get a US visa.

The US government refused to give her any kind of entrance Visa except a green card- that is what she was eligible for because she was married to a American citizen (me). And it took them 22 months to get around to issuing the Green Card. (There is no word that expresses my hatred for there bastards).

We knew several high level cartel members during our time in Nogales.
Two of these Cartel members were given business Visas to enter and live in the US (in a matter of days). One of these mafiosos was wanted by the Mexican government - so he desperately needed the Visa.

I'm white, speak English, gainfully employed, and have a sizeable 401(k) plan. I'm in, no question! Although you likely won't let me bring the lazy Mexican portion of the family.

Canada has had a points system since the 1960's but I don't think Trump understands the results here. We're not a country full of Norwegians and we are in fact, one of the most diverse in the world. In 2016, the top 5 countries of migrants here were from the Philippines, India, China, Iran and Pakistan, not exactly the Norways of the world.

The thing Trump doesn't seem to understand is that there are lots of qualified people from shithole countries so a point system isn't going to do what he wants and weed them out. Canada has proven that the exact opposite happens.

You know that's bullshit and not what I said or alluded to. As others have said, you completely twisted that to argue what you wanted to argue, not what was actually said.

I've given up trying to decipher SH's arguments.

I'm amazed that no matter what the evidence is, SH can always use to point to SH's pre-determined conclusion. I've concluded that SH is Sara Huckabee and getting her talking points from the LR, but at a total loss now that Windywave, Old Hickory, Duffy, and CruseVegas are no longer here.

Genius! It all fits perfectly!!

He gets it. You permit in producers while keeping out the consumers. It's brilliant! He wants to do the same here.

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I've concluded that SH is Sara Huckabee and getting her talking points from the LR, but at a total loss now that Windywave, Old Hickory, Duffy, and CruseVegas are no longer here.

Where'd they go? Though no big loss....

It's already been discussed and cannot be spoken about again. ;-)

Pretty sure we definitively answered this today.

https://www.foxnews.com/...n-sunady-tweet-storm

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

He certainly sounds like one. That’s an old standard of the racists I grew up around.

Yeah, when you tell people to go back to the country they came from and they were born and raised here....you might be a racist.

Trump could hang a noose in every window of the White House and some of these idiots would explain it away as a celebration of National Knot Awareness Month.

That's technically xenophobia and factual ignorance which doesn't mean he isn't racist but does make your statement inaccurate

Trumps statement in its entirety is racist. Full stop.

To be xenophobia wouldn’t the people need to actually be from somewhere else.

How so? It is clearly xenophobic and insulting but your claim that it is racist is soley because of who he directed it at.

Yes but he clearly erroneously does otherwise the statement is nonsensical

Yeah, like Norway.