right. and the reason i'm not accommodating that request is because once i do so the analysis begins. "you banned him for falling her a cee u on tuesday. but here's a case in 2013 and that person wasn't banned." and so on. slowguy get it (a few posts up). there were a couple of people i banned this past week who probably didn't even participate in the threads in question. they were banned for what they wrote last week, 2 years ago, and on every day in between.

if you weren't banned last week then you aren't the sort of person who i'm writing about. most of you guys, you're what makes this a great forum. i don't want to ban anybody. the very fact that somebody might reflect on the civility of his posts is the vaccination against a ban. only the un-self-reflective get banned.

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Dan Empfield
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<<His best trick was posting for pages and pages espousing a point of view, and then claiming that wasn't what he meant at all, and everyone else was too stupid to understand his satire/game.>>


You're such a one-dimensional thinker, slowguy.

I dare you to start a "The official LR Who Got Banned Thread".

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Of course you are not upset by the banning of Duffy. Because Duffy took you to the woodshed many times.
Writing a few lame sentences trying to encapsulate Duffy's 50000+ post is pretty degrading to his awesome contributions to Slowtwitch.

I am just confounded by the censorship. You have belittled me and called me names in the past. This is what happens sometimes when you enter the fray. If you don't like it don't jump in or jump out if you don't want to spar (which I have) but don't remove the fighters so you won't get hurt.
The thing is... I don't agree with most things you say, but I would never want you banned from the ring.
It seems the people on the left are more agreeable to censorship. Where feelings are more important than the truth.

As for Windy, he contributed some great entertainment! I have no idea why he was banned.

Another thing- I think it is really weak of anyone degrading or attacking Duffy or Windy when they are not here to defend themselves.

I don't have a good reason for thinking that. And I don't think it now. And I know that Dan confirmed it wasn't you. And when I "accused" Dan of lying I subsequently apologized and retracted that position.

My response was meant to say, "in real time I presumed it was Klehner". It was meant to make the point that we can all make whatever presumptions we want or wanted to but my presumption was no more correct than Halifax or Kay Serrar's presumption or "it's not a big leap to conclude" etc etc. I just wanted to point out that while its "not a big leap" that it was Dan who contacted him, it could in fact be any number of moderators who did so.

Bottom line is non of us knows the real story here. And I'm OK with that (not that it matters whether I am or not). I just think if this speculation is going to continue on it shouldn't include direct "knowledge" and accusations about somebody who (presumably) is no longer here to defend themselves.

So when I see Kay Serrar say that Duffy specifically addressed Katy with horribly said things and ipso facto that is why he was banned I think, unless you and Slowman want to full time police this forum, it requires someone to step in and challenge those things she knows for sure.

I apologize if this came across as an "attack" on you. I really didn't mean it that way.

you and i agree on almost nothing; and you are the least banworthy person on this forum, and mandatory reading for me. you, slowguy, j p o, kay serrar, mustangchef, bk, love you all. cerveloguy, jasonhalifax, m with the goddam tilde which is who knows where in my keyboard, love all you guys. happy to have you here. just wish you weren't wrong so often ;-)

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

I don't feel attacked. I want to understand why you would even presume I would have done that. What about my postings might lead you there?

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Any way to move those banned from the member directory and post count list. I need to move up a couple spots.

1) you were actively involved in the initial thread in question
2) I am fairly certain you are a moderator here with the ability to affect change on someone's life
3) I believe you to be someone who would contact someone directly prior to doing that
4) you have never given me any evidence that you would run to Dan vs. doing your own work
5) Dan's early responses appeared to be that he wasn't very actively involved in the process. Leading me to believe he may not be the moderator involved at all.

and again, even if I didn't presume you were involved, I felt it important to throw out that Dan is not the only person in the world who could have begun or ended this process. I think it could have been you. Or Rappstar. Or someone else. Or maybe those "presumptions" are incorrect.

I will make the point again. I left this thread of speculation (after being an active participant) on Saturday. When it became obvious that what happened would not be explained in detail (nor did it need to be). I was left with 2 things. 1) don't be a dick and you don't have to worry (which I appreciate means I still need to worry....) and 2) don't accuse people who are no longer here to defend themselves. I checked in last night to find what I believed to be someone who was not here to defend themselves being accused of something by someone with no more detail than I had. When challenged that position changed from "katy" to "a real person".

Bummed I didn't make the list. ;-)

I guess part of the consternation over Duffy and Windy's bans is that it might appear that the LR will end up with lots of people on one side of the aisle and fewer and fewer on the other.

As far as comportment goes. I'd prefer to see fewer "You're a Trump ballwasher", "You're a f*cking moron", "You're a nutmeg" posts

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As for Windy, he contributed some great entertainment! I have no idea why he was banned.

Another thing- I think it is really weak of anyone degrading or attacking Duffy or Windy when they are not here to defend themselves.[/quote]

Gone but not forgotten

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Yeah, I remember you being around. I mostly like the politics, but it's not so fun with Trump ball washers and TDS people head to head now. There used to be more discussion/debate on ideas; the basis, or reasoning behind policy, and a lot of those guys are gone. Mjuric got buried in his business I think, Vitus has gotten continually more strident in his posts, not sure why, and Slowguy does not engage much, owing, I think, to his possible 2020 POTUS run (too late man, I archive this stuff, and I have all of it, ALL OF IT!) :)
At any rate, I'm hoping for another evolution in the better direction.

That's funny stuff.

I'm not sure you understand what that expression means.

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(insert pithy phrase here...)

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Emery's Third Coast Triathlon | Tri Wisconsin Triathlon Team | Push Endurance | GLWR

For the record, I have never been involved in moderating ST in any capacity. Never asked to, never offered, never even thought about doing so. Who needs that crap? Not even going to ask why you thought I was a moderator.

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there are plenty here for cerveloguy and francois to spar with.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

We'll see. I think that the national conversation needs a real infusion of rational discourse but that seems unlikely. For whatever its worth, I finished the Nations Triathlon (sprint) this fall n a pathetic fashion ... but I finished. Drank more of the Potomac than I cared to! Maybe I'll be a bit more active here as well.

Duffy in the white:

Isi it still Festivus season? This could be part of the traditional airing of grievances.

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maybe it was your signature line

see what happens when we all begin to make presumptions. Mine have been called out twice now in this thread. Would like to see some others be called out as well

EDIT: this was the particular comment that brought me back. This was allowed to stand. Is this the "for the record" we want to move forward with.


For the record, Duffy called Katy a "weak minded sniveling little waste of space..." as well as being "damaged and weak willed."

Yeah, so you don't know what the expression means. Also, nothing Duffy ever posted came close to resembling knocking me out.

I didn't have any problem with Duffy remaining in the LR. I just had no more interest in hearing his repetitive themes (Duffy is awesome, government is evil, I'm not a Trump guy but here's how anyone who criticizes Trump is an idiot, etc)

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(insert pithy phrase here...)

Just like your movie reviews you are bang on.

Quote is by slowguy speaking to Slowman.

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thanks. You may want to make that more clear. Just a suggestion

I've lost track of the times I and others have said that Duffy got what he deserved because, for one, it's your land and if we can't abide by the rules you set then we should be launched. No problem with that in the least. I also complimented you for putting up with our nonsense for so very long, especially during election years. Which become quite heated, for some reason I can't fathom.

The "disagreement" I and a couple others have, not with you but with one of your "defenders" (as if you needed defending) here, revolves around the particular words uttered by the dearly departed, though I think I and others have also pointed out that it wasn't any single instance but, rather, a "body of work" which earned Duffy a double-tap.

That's fine with me as well. I differ not with you but with another participant in this thread, that anything he said was "mean," in my opinion (saying such a word makes us sound like we're in high school, dealing with Mean Boys and Mean Girls). But a body of work -- coming from Duffy? Oh, that I understand completely.

As far as any hagiography for Trump's Number One Testicular Needs Attendant goes, I'm not seeing that, at least from me. But if I wanted to write one I could produce copy that'd bring tears even to the eyes of Saddam Hussein, if he were alive today. ;-)

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