And here I thought you were being a dick. :)

From my first response:
The Doors, Credence, Skynyrd, Aerosmith, Santana, ZZTop, Grateful Dead, Heart, Cheap Trick, Talking Heads, Jefferson Airplane, Alice Cooper, Kiss, ...

If you put the bottom at having sold 20 million for an album you have two Beatles, one Zeppelin, and one or two Floyd depending one your time cutoff.


Classic rock was never about album sales. If you want to be depressed look through the top albums by year. 1967, one of the greatest years for music. Fucking Monkees had the #1 album for 31 weeks in '66 and '67, their first only displaced by the second.

Bruce was popular long before Born in the USA, and it wasn't his best work.

I don't think we can validate classic rock(or any music) by album sales any more than we can by Grammy wins.

The only standard I can give you is will you listen to it 10 years later (or 50).

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The Jimi Hendrix Experience should be considered an English band with an American singer/guitarist/songwriter. Formed in England with everyone else involved English.

How about Yes and Kansas? Or do we have to go to early Prince?

I think looking at Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees might be a better measuring stick than 20M in album sales. Looking at the R&R Hall of Fame classes... The Beatles went in in '88, The Stones in '89, The Who and The Kinks in '90. American bands that were inducted after that...

1991 - The Byrds
1992 - Jimi Hendrix Experience
1993 - CCR, The Doors
1994 - The Band, Grateful Dead
1995 - Janis Joplin, Frank Zappa, Allman Brothers, Neil Young (if you want to expand to North America)
1996 - Jefferson Airplane, Velvet Underground
1997 - Buffalo Springfield, CS&N, P-Funk, Jackson 5
1998 - The Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, Santana, Mamas and the Papas
1999 - Springsteen, Billy Joel
2000 - James Taylor, Bonnie Raitt
2001 - Aerosmith, Steely Dan
2002 - Talking Heads, Ramones, Tom Petty

... A couple others I didn't see mentioned - The Pretenders, Jackson Browne, Blondie, R.E.M., Patti Smith, Bob Seger, Metallica....

I'd put the Pretenders in the same category with the Jimi Hendrix Experience that someone mentioned above - formed in London with an American front-person and all-British band members both for the original lineup and the initial reboot after James Honeyman Scott and Pete Farndon passed.

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I'll call The Pretenders a push since Scott and Farndon were arguably as important as Hyde to the band. However, there was a reason it wasn't The Noel Redding Experience... it was Jimi's band.

"I don't think we can validate classic rock(or any music) by album sales any more than we can by Grammy wins.

The only standard I can give you is will you listen to it 10 years later (or 50). "


Here's my take on it, and an argument often missed. Just because it sells doesn't mean its good, but if its good it'll sell.


But yes, I agree, your standard is a better one. Haven't heard too much Jefferson Airplane on the radio in the last 30 years, so I'll contend they were no Beatles or Rolling Stones. =)

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My thought exactly.

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War is god

When I think post British Invasion I am thinking after the Sex Pistols toured, so Black Flag.

Seriously no one mentioned Rush, Loverboy was mentioned but not Rush (who i cannot stand).

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Team Zoot, Team Zoot Mid-Atlantic

Canadians don't count.

Fair point.

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Deep Purple was a pretty big deal back then...

TRUE. But Loverboy is from Calgary.

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Van Halen was The Runaways in drag

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"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

Lynyrd Skynyrd, Allman Brothers, perhaps? They may be in, I forget

Cheap Trick just got in, correct?

Joan Jett was inducted with The Blackhearts, whereas I think The Runaways should have been inducted together as a whole

And RnR HOF is compete bullshit without WARREN fucking ZEVON

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