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BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined
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According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics and its Consumer Expenditure Survey (conducted by the Census Bureau for BLS), Americans in 2016 spent more on taxes than they did on food and clothing combined.

Also, over the last three years -- 2013 to 2016 -- Americans saw their average tax bill climb by 41.13 percent.

For 2016, a consumer unit (families, financially independent individuals and people living in a single household who share expenses) spent about $10,489 on federal, state and local taxes combined. Food came in at $7,203 and clothing at $1,803, for a total of $9,006.

In 2013, the average tax bill for an American "consumer unit" came to $7,423. In 2016, it was $10,489.

By 2016 there were 129,549,000 consumer units. The average pre-tax income of an American consumer (unit) that year was $74,664. Federal income taxes consumed $8,367, state and local income taxes $2,046 combined, and $75 in various other taxes.

The above figures also do not count the various fees collected, mostly at the state and local levels (auto registrations and so forth), nor are property taxes at the state and local levels figured in (because they're not based on income and owning property is a voluntary activity).

Three years earlier, in 2013, there were 125,670,000 consumer units paying taxes. Average pre-tax income in 2013 for a consumer came to $63,784. Taxes paid per consumer that year amounted to $7,432. Federal taxes ate up $5,743, state and local taxes another $1,629 and other taxes an additional $60.

Over that time span, government collected $3,057 more in taxes from each consumer, this despite a 3,879,000 increase in consumer units (more consumer units paying more in taxes, is that correct?). This is not anything nefarious, though. As population and the job market grows, more people enter the labor pool and become taxpayers.

Taxes across the board -- at the federal, state and local levels -- have increased. Again; not necessarily a bad thing. Yet, have we seen an increase in both the amount of public services or the quality of those services when they're delivered. I'm not so sure about that. We have a spending problem, not a tax revenue problem, from what I'm seeing.

Anyway...

The single largest expenditure by American consumers was on housing, which cost the average consumer unit $18,886 in 2016. The housing expenditure breaks down as follows:

-- $11,128 for the shelter itself (either mortgage or rent payments).

-- $3,884 for utilities, fuel and public services.

-- $1,384 for household operations (keeping up the homestead, etc.).

-- $1,829 for household furnishings and equipment.

-- $160 for housekeeping supplies (Mr. Clean costs a lot).

Note: It's true that renters don't directly pay property taxes -- but such taxes are usually included as a portion of their rent payments. Apartment dwellers pay a prorated cost while single-family property tenants often pay the entire amount. They just don't see it on their monthly lease payments.

https://www.bls.gov/...elease/cesan.nr0.htm



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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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people are spending an extra $100 a year on beauty products and services!

Guess beauticians gotta eat too.
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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [scorpio516] [ In reply to ]
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scorpio516 wrote:
people are spending an extra $100 a year on beauty products and services!

Guess beauticians gotta eat too.

I fell into this trap, Mrs. mck414 convinced me to try a pedicure, damn if I'm not hooked.

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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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big kahuna wrote:
a consumer unit (families, financially independent individuals and people living in a single household who share expenses)

Is it okay to call these folks Peter?
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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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Who the hell spends $1,800 on clothes a year??? It would be interesting to see the male vs female breakout on that. I feel bad for women, their styles change more frequently, cheaper quality and more expensive then men's clothes.

I wear a suit 4 days a week and maybe spend $500 on average a year. That is including bike/running clothes, work clothes, casual stuff, shoes etc.
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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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It would be better to see median numbers rather than average since most income growth has been in the upper quarter. I think median income has been fairly flat as opposed to the average in the chart which shows a 17% increase over 3 years. Over same time frame increase in average taxes is 40% which points to most of the increase in income being taxed at the highest bracket, i.e. 39.6%.
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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [AndysStrongAle] [ In reply to ]
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AndysStrongAle wrote:
Who the hell spends $1,800 on clothes a year??? It would be interesting to see the male vs female breakout on that. I feel bad for women, their styles change more frequently, cheaper quality and more expensive then men's clothes.

I wear a suit 4 days a week and maybe spend $500 on average a year. That is including bike/running clothes, work clothes, casual stuff, shoes etc.

I don't know anyone -- including my wife -- who spends that kind of money on clothes annually. Maybe there are a lot of families in that figure? I know I don't spend much on clothes, given I pop tags at the local Goodwill whenever I can. ;-)

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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [schroeder] [ In reply to ]
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schroeder wrote:
It would be better to see median numbers rather than average since most income growth has been in the upper quarter. I think median income has been fairly flat as opposed to the average in the chart which shows a 17% increase over 3 years. Over same time frame increase in average taxes is 40% which points to most of the increase in income being taxed at the highest bracket, i.e. 39.6%.

I'm more of a median person myself, but I think they give the average only in most cases. Of course, 50% of Americans pay less than that figure (and many pay far less) while 50% pay more, but how much more, even at the Top 1% income bracket? Some of these numbers are relative, as well. We may pay more in taxes, but we're also making more in income. "A rising economic tide lifts all boats," in other words. And maybe it all evens out in the wash?

I'm not against income taxes per se. I just want the taxes I'm paying to be efficiently utilized, is all.

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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [mck414] [ In reply to ]
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mck414 wrote:
scorpio516 wrote:
people are spending an extra $100 a year on beauty products and services!

Guess beauticians gotta eat too.


I fell into this trap, Mrs. mck414 convinced me to try a pedicure, damn if I'm not hooked.

It's when you fall in love with a mani-pedi that you should abandon all hope of recovering your manliness, sir. ;-)

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."
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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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Of course, 50% of Americans pay less than that figure (and many pay far less) while 50% pay more, but how much more, even at the Top 1% income bracket?

You are describing the median, not the average and the chart shows the average.

We may pay more in taxes, but we're also making more in income.

This is true for the average, but not the median. Look at the difference between how much income grew (17%) and how much taxes grew (40%). This tells you that most of the income increase came from high earners who pay higher % in taxes. The median person increased little in both income and taxes.



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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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big kahuna wrote:
AndysStrongAle wrote:
Who the hell spends $1,800 on clothes a year??? It would be interesting to see the male vs female breakout on that. I feel bad for women, their styles change more frequently, cheaper quality and more expensive then men's clothes.

I wear a suit 4 days a week and maybe spend $500 on average a year. That is including bike/running clothes, work clothes, casual stuff, shoes etc.


I don't know anyone -- including my wife -- who spends that kind of money on clothes annually. Maybe there are a lot of families in that figure? I know I don't spend much on clothes, given I pop tags at the local Goodwill whenever I can. ;-)

I guess that makes sense, one consumer unit. Still I don't mind my kids getting 90% of their clothes from garage sales until their 10-12.
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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [AndysStrongAle] [ In reply to ]
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AndysStrongAle wrote:
Who the hell spends $1,800 on clothes a year??? It would be interesting to see the male vs female breakout on that. I feel bad for women, their styles change more frequently, cheaper quality and more expensive then men's clothes.

I wear a suit 4 days a week and maybe spend $500 on average a year. That is including bike/running clothes, work clothes, casual stuff, shoes etc.


It's maybe a bit high for me, but I don't think that's an outrageous number. I spend close to $500/year on running shoes alone.

ETA: this reminds me of the thread a few years back where people were boasting about feeding a family of 4 on $20/week or something, and other threads about people who have never carried any debt, ever, except a small mortgage which they paid off in 3 years.
Last edited by: wimsey: Aug 31, 17 7:08
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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [AndysStrongAle] [ In reply to ]
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AndysStrongAle wrote:
big kahuna wrote:
AndysStrongAle wrote:
Who the hell spends $1,800 on clothes a year??? It would be interesting to see the male vs female breakout on that. I feel bad for women, their styles change more frequently, cheaper quality and more expensive then men's clothes.

I wear a suit 4 days a week and maybe spend $500 on average a year. That is including bike/running clothes, work clothes, casual stuff, shoes etc.


I don't know anyone -- including my wife -- who spends that kind of money on clothes annually. Maybe there are a lot of families in that figure? I know I don't spend much on clothes, given I pop tags at the local Goodwill whenever I can. ;-)


I guess that makes sense, one consumer unit. Still I don't mind my kids getting 90% of their clothes from garage sales until their 10-12.

According to CNN Money, the cost to raise a child to age 18, in the USA, is $233,610 as of 2015. YOW!

"Families can expect to spend between $12,350 and nearly $14,000 a year, on average, to raise a child."

Cost of raising a child: $233,610 - Jan. 9, 2017

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."
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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [AndysStrongAle] [ In reply to ]
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AndysStrongAle wrote:
Who the hell spends $1,800 on clothes a year??? It would be interesting to see the male vs female breakout on that. I feel bad for women, their styles change more frequently, cheaper quality and more expensive then men's clothes.

I wear a suit 4 days a week and maybe spend $500 on average a year. That is including bike/running clothes, work clothes, casual stuff, shoes etc.

How much are your suits? How often do you replace them? Shoes? Ties? What about Christmas gifts? I'm sure some years you're over 1800 bucks without thinking about it.
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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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big kahuna wrote:
AndysStrongAle wrote:
big kahuna wrote:
AndysStrongAle wrote:
Who the hell spends $1,800 on clothes a year??? It would be interesting to see the male vs female breakout on that. I feel bad for women, their styles change more frequently, cheaper quality and more expensive then men's clothes.


I wear a suit 4 days a week and maybe spend $500 on average a year. That is including bike/running clothes, work clothes, casual stuff, shoes etc.


I don't know anyone -- including my wife -- who spends that kind of money on clothes annually. Maybe there are a lot of families in that figure? I know I don't spend much on clothes, given I pop tags at the local Goodwill whenever I can. ;-)


I guess that makes sense, one consumer unit. Still I don't mind my kids getting 90% of their clothes from garage sales until their 10-12.


According to CNN Money, the cost to raise a child to age 18, in the USA, is $233,610 as of 2015. YOW!

"Families can expect to spend between $12,350 and nearly $14,000 a year, on average, to raise a child."

Cost of raising a child: $233,610 - Jan. 9, 2017


Seems like quite a good deal.
In California for house, food, healthcare, and clothing of a prisoner it cost us a whopping $75,560 a year. And Libs. here want these same people to run our healthcare.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-prison-costs-20170604-htmlstory.html
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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [getcereal] [ In reply to ]
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As alluded to in a different thread I'm looking to buy a house. Property taxes are usually more than the mortgage would be. 'Nuff said
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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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windywave wrote:
As alluded to in a different thread I'm looking to buy a house. Property taxes are usually more than the mortgage would be. 'Nuff said

Yes, we love our politician that tax and spend.




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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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This year I will pay 9K in property taxes on a house worth about 500K. I don't know what they spend it all on. The road in front of my house is a real bone shaker when I am on my bike.

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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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Food is the cheapest it has ever been in human history.

And that tax burden isn't accurate. It isn't capturing sales, gas, tolls, licenses, ...

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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big kahuna wrote:
mck414 wrote:
scorpio516 wrote:
people are spending an extra $100 a year on beauty products and services!

Guess beauticians gotta eat too.


I fell into this trap, Mrs. mck414 convinced me to try a pedicure, damn if I'm not hooked.


It's when you fall in love with a mani-pedi that you should abandon all hope of recovering your manliness, sir. ;-)

Just the pedi, I'll retain half my maniless thank you.

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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [schroeder] [ In reply to ]
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It would be better to see median numbers rather than average since most income growth has been in the upper quarter.

It's good to see both median and average numbers. Either one alone obscures the way in which policies are affecting different groups. Are SS and Medicare taxes included? Why not, and why are SS benefits included?
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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [AndysStrongAle] [ In reply to ]
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Who the hell spends $1,800 on clothes a year???



A consumer unit includes families. We probably pay slightly more than that (wife, two teenage daughters). I was nowhere near that amount when I was single. As someone else said, food and clothing are the cheapest that they have ever been.
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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [mck414] [ In reply to ]
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mck414 wrote:
big kahuna wrote:
mck414 wrote:
scorpio516 wrote:
people are spending an extra $100 a year on beauty products and services!

Guess beauticians gotta eat too.


I fell into this trap, Mrs. mck414 convinced me to try a pedicure, damn if I'm not hooked.


It's when you fall in love with a mani-pedi that you should abandon all hope of recovering your manliness, sir. ;-)


Just the pedi, I'll retain half my maniless thank you.

That's the spirit, sir. Hold out for as long as you can. ;-)

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."
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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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I not sure the median or average makes sense since the bulk of the taxes are paid by the top 20%. I think you have to look at this stuff in income groups.
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Re: BLS Data: Americans Spend More on Taxes Than Food and Clothing Combined [blueraider_mike] [ In reply to ]
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blueraider_mike wrote:
I not sure the median or average makes sense since the bulk of the taxes are paid by the top 20%. I think you have to look at this stuff in income groups.

It's true that high-income Americans pay most income taxes. Below, how the government is funded:



Who pays taxes? The rich, mostly?



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