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Re: entitled crybaby assholes [veganerd] [ In reply to ]
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Totally different positions, and the 2nd one doesn't even come close to United situation.

There is some arguments that the contract language doesn't allow United to involuntarily bump him in this circumstance.

A couple of things:

Even if he was in the right, he should have gotten off, filed a complaint or lawsuit. Otherwise, much like getting into an argument with the cops even if you are in the right. It's going to end badly.

Also, I have heard that he got off the plane once, seemingly agreeing to be bumped. Then he changed his mind and charged back onto the plane (was this when the cops were called?). If this is true, then at that point it became a federal crime and the cops had to remove him by any means necessary.
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Re: entitled crybaby assholes [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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Duffy wrote:
veganerd wrote:
Duffy wrote:

Btw II, three others got off that plane without incident.

irrelevant.

some people give their wallet over to a mugger without incident. some people resist.

both have the same exact rights to their wallet and chose to exercise them differently.

My wallet and a specific seat on a plane at a specific time are two totally unrelated things.

again, i didnt say they were the same. i pointed out, with an analogy, that just because some people act differently in a situation does not mean that either person is not within their rights.

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Re: entitled crybaby assholes [veganerd] [ In reply to ]
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veganerd wrote:
Duffy wrote:
veganerd wrote:
Duffy wrote:

Btw II, three others got off that plane without incident.

irrelevant.

some people give their wallet over to a mugger without incident. some people resist.

both have the same exact rights to their wallet and chose to exercise them differently.

My wallet and a specific seat on a plane at a specific time are two totally unrelated things.

again, i didnt say they were the same. i pointed out, with an analogy, that just because some people act differently in a situation does not mean that either person is not within their rights.

Yes, I know. People do have the right to be an asshole.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

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Re: entitled crybaby assholes [veganerd] [ In reply to ]
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veganerd wrote:
Duffy wrote:


Btw II, three others got off that plane without incident.


irrelevant.

some people give their wallet over to a mugger without incident. some people resist.

both have the same exact rights to their wallet and chose to exercise them differently.

And some people get beat up by muggers for not giving up their wallets.

And some people get beat up for not giving up their seats.

It's all the same, really.

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Re: entitled crybaby assholes [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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Duffy wrote:
If you say so.

I do say so and I am 100% correct. Show me something - anything - that says otherwise.

Duffy wrote:
Btw, there isn't going to be a lawsuit. An attorney is going to write a couple letters and UA is going to fork over millions.

Optics.

No. There will be no lawsuit because UA has no legal defense. None. It has nothing to do with optics.

Duffy wrote:
Btw II, three others got off that plane without incident.

So what??? I bet one or all 3 sue UA for breach of contract.

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Re: entitled crybaby assholes [efernand] [ In reply to ]
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efernand wrote:
Totally different positions, and the 2nd one doesn't even come close to United situation.

There is some arguments that the contract language doesn't allow United to involuntarily bump him in this circumstance.

It isn't an argument. It is a fact. I posted a link to the complete contract in the UA thread.

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Re: entitled crybaby assholes [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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JSA wrote:
efernand wrote:
Totally different positions, and the 2nd one doesn't even come close to United situation.

There is some arguments that the contract language doesn't allow United to involuntarily bump him in this circumstance.


It isn't an argument. It is a fact. I posted a link to the complete contract in the UA thread.


Yup, I was gonna post here but JSA's got it handled.... still we're talking about this... since many say "it's a contract he agreed to it!!!" Well, so did UA, and no one has posted any language from the contract allowing UA to remove a seated passenger from a plane (although oddly enough that situation is addressed in the UA contract) for overbooking. Surely it must be in there somewhere since so many believe it! (ironic, by the way, that the author of the USA Today article decries that no one reads the fine print.... apparently not having read, or at least understood, the fine print...)
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Re: entitled crybaby assholes [veganerd] [ In reply to ]
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So we should all just refuse to pay taxes.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: entitled crybaby assholes [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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So we should all just refuse to pay taxes.

no, thats not my position. im pointing out that people argue #1 and also say person arguing #2 was being a crybaby. yet the arguments are apparently the same.

lack of consistency and self awareness acording to my observation.

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Re: entitled crybaby assholes [veganerd] [ In reply to ]
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veganerd wrote:
Duffy wrote:
So we should all just refuse to pay taxes.

no, thats not my position. im pointing out that people argue #1 and also say person arguing #2 was being a crybaby. yet the arguments are apparently the same.

lack of consistency and self awareness acording to my observation.

So then you're arguing that UA did the right thing by kicking him off the plane?

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: entitled crybaby assholes [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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Duffy wrote:
veganerd wrote:
Duffy wrote:
So we should all just refuse to pay taxes.

no, thats not my position. im pointing out that people argue #1 and also say person arguing #2 was being a crybaby. yet the arguments are apparently the same.

lack of consistency and self awareness acording to my observation.

So then you're arguing that UA did the right thing by kicking him off the plane?

nope.

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Re: entitled crybaby assholes [veganerd] [ In reply to ]
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veganerd wrote:
Duffy wrote:
So we should all just refuse to pay taxes.


no, thats not my position. im pointing out that people argue #1 and also say person arguing #2 was being a crybaby. yet the arguments are apparently the same.

lack of consistency and self awareness acording to my observation.

Maybe it would make your position understandable if you quoted some specific examples.

From your POV, it sounds like they are a lot of them.

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