I absolutely agree. I bought that watch on (I think) your rec from a prior thread. It's now my everyday and I just love it. Most comfortable band I own. Love the off white face with the stainless. Looks a lot like the Grand Seiko.

It's more of a classic size so if you want a modern baller sized watch it will be small.

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A very common gateway quality swiss automatic watch would be the Hamilton Khaki automatic. Lists for $575, but can get online all over for $350-400. Nice classic appearance with brown leather band, sapphire crystal, Swiss ETA (or now Hamilton's H7) movement with display on the rear, very accurate and a perfect 42 mm (there is a smaller 39 mm that is small for today's watches) size. Can't go wrong here.

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I also have the white one and love it. Its become both my everyday work and dress watch.

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I was just looking at the Hamilton Khaki on Amazon. That is a nice looking watch. I'm going to have a tough choice to make with all the great suggestions.

  
As people have stated Hamilton is a very good brand, as is seiko. Others to consider: Orient (the star line) makes very good watches. Edox also makes a very good diver watch as well. Even if the watch has a metal bracelet for a band...you can purchase very nice leather bands and switch the band out. I do this all the time with my rotation.

All of these watches are automatics which is what I assume you are looking for? There are a ton of forums on watches that you may want to peruse. Probably the most important thing to figure out is what size watch face you want. Unfortunately once you start down this path, you will massively expand your watch collection as well as the necessary watch winders.

Also if you are looking at Hamilton's sign up for slickdeals alerts with the keyword activated for hamilton. They compile a bunch of specials on hamilton watches so within a month you will find a killer deal on the hamilton brand.

"assembled" in Detroit!

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That's nice.

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I like the look of that also.

The F5 is out now and I know it is over your budget but if you wanted a workout watch that has smart features that is not a bad way to go. Of course if you don't want anything like that the other options mentioned are good.

This. I have a Victorinox Maverick that is maybe 25 years old. I just now researched it and the new one is up to $495.00.

This is an interesting thread for me. When I retire in September, I get to pick a retirement gift. It will be a watch. The ones I get to pick from are all in the price range being discussed in this thread. I'm curious what folks think. I'm leaning toward the Citizen because I've never had a watch that didn't need a battery. And I don't think I want a chronograph. Here are my choices:

• Tissot PRC200 Black Chronograph
• Movado Museum Dial
• Victorinox Night Vision
• Citizen Signature Eco Drive
• Bulova Precisionist Champlain

Oh, there's also a Garmin offered, but that ship has sailed already.

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It has to be said, Get the Rolex Submariner or the Omega Speedmaster Man on the effin Moon. See Archie Luxury on youtube for all your watch needs.

I know these may be a little out of the price range but whats a few grand more?

Where do you get the fake TagH's and what price range are we talking?

My brother picked them up in China. About $100. each if I remember right. They look identical.

Hi teekona - not all these watches are alike:

• Tissot PRC200 Black Chronograph - This is an mechanical-automatic watch. It has no battery and winds itself as you wear it. It uses a basic Swiss ETA movement. Automatics need to be worn almost daily to keep them wound. If you take it of for 48hrs. you will need to reset the time. They are also slightly less accurate than quartz - they lose/gain a few seconds per day.

• Movado Museum Dial - This is quartz watch. The 'guts' are a not all that much different than those in a $25 Timex. There is no mechanical beauty of the finely engineered and crafted gears and springs that make up a mechanical watch. You're paying for the Movado brand name and a pretty face. Quartz is very accurate but you need to change the battery.

• Victorinox Night Vision - same as above

• Citizen Signature Eco Drive - the Eco Drive does use a battery, but not in the classic sense. The face is effectively a solar panel that charges a permanent rechargeable battery which then powers a quartz movement. Ultimately its a quartz watch. It works quite well unless the internal battery fails or if you wear your watch under your shirt sleeves. If you do consider the alternative Seiko Kinetic series that uses the movement of the watch as you wear it to charge an internal battery that powers a quartz movement.

• Bulova Precisionist Champlain - same as the other two quartz watches.

If you're looking for something to tell you the time all are good options. If you're looking for a mechanical marvel and wish to be a bit of a chronophile then the Tissot is the obvious choice. Also Tissot is a respected Swiss brand and looks good to boot.

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Thanks for the info. I'll need to think about this. Still not sure that I like the "busy" look of the face of a chronograph. I've always preferred a simpler looking watch face. Regarding the Eco Drive, does it need to be exposed to direct sunlight to recharge, or does indirect light do the trick?

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caveat emptor

http://forums.watchuseek.com/...co-drive-715910.html


https://www.wristwatchreview.com/...e-citizen-eco-drive/

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/...ive-watches-Any-good

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Here you are:

Thank you. I appreciate the information. As far as "buyer beware", I'm not buying- it's a gift. I have a little less than six months to think this over...

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Citizen Eco-Drives are great, trouble-free watches that look good. Can't go wrong there. Some of their discontinued pieces like the Orca are so cool and wearable.

If you want an automatic that's painless, Seikos are your best bet in that price range. Divers to dress...they've got a little bit of everything.

If you want to tumble down the rabbit hole of boutique watch makers....there's that too. It's an addiction. My personal favorites there are Squale and Magrette. Squale uses ETA movements, Magrette uses Citizen / Miyota There are too many others to list.

That said...you really can't kill a Citizen.

All that aside, the only thing that broke my watchfever was buying a Fenix 3. I bought a few bands to scratch that "gotta change" itch...but haven't spent any money on watches in over a year.

Not sure of the quality but this brand has been buzzing lately. The minimalist look is nice.

https://www.brathwait.com/

Don't let anyone convince you that you have to have an automatic (mechanical) movement in order to have a fine watch. Many respected makers offer nearly identical watches in quartz or mechanical, the only difference is the movement (and the price). While mechanical watches may require more "craftsmanship" (e.g. manual labor) to create, realize that at that price range any mechanical movement will be based on "engineering" from the 17th century and "hand crafted" in the millions of units. They are not "slightly less" accurate than quartz...even the best mechanical movements are off several seconds per day when in perfect condition, and need periodic (every few years) maintenance to keep any sort of accuracy. On the other hand, quartz such as the Precisionist you mention are accurate to a few seconds per year...and need virtually no maintenance, especially an ECO drive, Kinetic, or similar, which do not even need battery changes. Now, which really represents the higher level of engineering? The Precisionist is actually quite a remarkable watch, especially for the price, and it's accuracy is not matched by any watch, much less a cheap one. Oh, and it has a more "sweeping" second hand than most automatics to boot. Before quartz came along (thanks largely to Seiko), there were plenty of cheap automatics, hence the Timex slogan "Takes a licking and keeps on ticking". You don't see them anymore because they are simply inferior technology for any practical application. Automatics remain popular among watch enthusiasts mainly because that is what is marketed in high end watches and marketing works.

Of course this had been debated endlessly.

Have a look at these guys.

https://www.momentumwatch.com/

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I have the black version of the first watch shown.I think it looks very nice, it is not huge and it did not break the bank.

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