Buy Canadian?

Tell them to ship via the post office and declare a low value.

The term for that is fraud.

Shipping via the po works, fees are minimal. Use FedEx instead of UPS since FedEx doesn't stupid charge like that had in the past.

Again, ask others to commit fraud for your own personal gain, pretty sure that because it's crossing an international border makes it a federal crime. And I'm pretty sure you don't want that showing up on your resume.

What's this brokerage fee? Is it just a mark up for a "broker" to do something? The way others are talking it sounds like a tariff

He talking about customs brokerage fees. The other guy is telling him to have the seller lie about the contents values to avoid paying fees based on the percentage of value of the item. Of course the problem with that is that it's fraud, plain and simple.

So if you follow the rules use USPS and declare the actual value. If you're "amoral" do the other thing and be scorned by the righteous!

If you're "amoral" do the other thing and be scorned by the righteous!


You can define amoral any way you want but it's still illegal.

Yes it is. Wasn't arguing that point.

I'd say it's less of a 'crime' than the wealthy folk avoiding tax through numerous loop holes that fellow wealthy folk decriminalised to also enjoy. But alas the law disagrees. Funny that.

I agree rusty I would never ask someone to commit fraud on my behalf when people ask me to do that my reply is "That would be fraud" Seeing if the supplier will try post office. Maybe will try fedex. The amount UPS charges is too much for the small amount of work. I try to buy in country as much as I can.

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They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

You obviously don't understand the potential ramifications of intentionally misleading the Canadian & US border gestapo. Why risk having shit go sideways over a few bucks?

Still not trying to refute anything you guys have said. Each person has their own risk/reward tolerances. I'm not judging.

http://www.tradelawyersblog.com/...lare-goods-acquired/

You are on a mission!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0MK7qz13bU

You're right, one should never engage in conversations with people too stubborn to learn and can't even figure how to hot link.

Once again, wasn't trying. Not biting. But keep going, it's entertaining.

FYI - never once engaged in the illegal activity being discussed, just commented on it. Still not judging. Still don't care. I didn't do it, never took part in it so I have nothing to worry about. Didn't feel like hot-linking, just wanted to see if you'd actually look at it.

Why is this conversation still going on? Tell you what, I'll give up. You win. It's wrong. It's so, so wrong and I'm so sorry for not judging those who engage in the practice. Let's hope the sympathizer police don't come to get me!

Obviously you didn't take the advice of the song.

Why would I? You're being a dick.

Thanks Richard. Is you last name Head?

For a guy that says he's not biting my bait you sure are a hungry one. You're the one that called someone holier than thou for pointing out that the advice given was a crime, and not a minor one at that. That either makes you stupid or a prick, take your pick. Got that Richard? No? Didn't think so.

Just figure it out before hand and see if it's worth it:

https://hts.usitc.gov/?query=6405909000

I wanted to get one of those cool Alan Bikeboxes from the UK. After checking all the import fees here to MI (about 45%) it ended up being more expensive than buying another case here in the US, so I just dropped the idea.

The idea of asking "a lower value" might end up bad. Some items don't pay any fees (like getting a camera lens).

This was fun, now it's getting stupid. I'll take whatever road is left and leave it here. Keep judging!