Or to not realize that it is an issue.

Funny, NPR doesn't see a problem.

http://www.npr.org/...trump-policy-outlook

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Obama's a bastard.
First he discovered a ton of natural gas.
Then he developed the technology to extract it.
Then he donated all the natural gas and the technologies to private companies controlled by republican Texas oilmen.
All because he wanted to bankrupt the coal companies for the 17th time in the last hundred years.

Powerful and evil.

WOW! We may have found a replacement for YaHey!!!

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we're already behind

Funny how much Canada plans to rely on coal for the foreseeable future.

• Coal is a large part of the global energy mix and represents about 29 per cent of global primary energy demandFootnote 86. Coal has met nearly half of the world’s energy demand growth over the past decade, almost all of which was attributable to rising demand from ChinaFootnote 87. Power generation accounts for two-thirds of coal consumption worldwide, with the remainder mainly used for steel manufacturing.
• Global coal prices have been declining since their 2011 peaks, mainly due to increased supply from the build-up in global production capacity that mostly occurred in AustraliaFootnote 88 as well as competition from shale gas as a fuel for the North American power market.
• Canada has about 6.6 billion tonnes of proven recoverable coal reserves, or 96 years of production at the current production rate. The great majority of Canadian coal resources are located in western Canada, but coal has also been produced in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. In 2014, there were 19 operating coal mines in Canada, all in Western Canada.

Plus, you plan to expand oil drilling and fracking ...

Here is your country's 2016 energy plan by the Canada National Energy Board:

https://www.neb-one.gc.ca/...16/index-eng.html#s9


You know, you really should learn more about your own country before obsessing over ours.

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Note that's western Canada stuff. Totally foreign to me. Better ask racin-_rusty. :-)

How much of that plan was implemented? I think velocibuddha is talking about what happened while you're talking about what he had planned.

note that your coal obsession is about an entirely different country and it is not stopping you opining regularly about it.

Well a couple of things Mr. Worldly, some of the best coking coal (that's the stuff your sports car is made with) is mined in the back waters of Grande Cache host of the Canadian Death Race. That coal used to be shipped east to Ontario, now it's shipped to the far east of China. Maybe you're not aware of this, but in Alberta when the coal is shut down and the oil has run out we'll have no use for Ontario's manufacturing facilities unless you think going from building 10 or 20,000 miles of steel pipe is replaced with 20,000 garden hoes a 25 rotational molded irrigation storage tanks!

got it thanks. You may want to explain that to the voters in WV.




what I do know is we wont have to speculate on whether this was planned or implemented

You seem hung up on things that haven't happened. How is that going to help those coal miners?

There is no debate on wall street, in academy, or even in the board room of coal companies.........

Unless the price of natural gas goes way up, the coal energy industry is fvcked.

Now coking coal is another matter.
Now that the American coal companies dumped their pensions on PBGC and ripped off their creditors- maybe they can compete for a small slice of that business.

you clearly haven't been following along. You cant help those coal miners. Coal is an antique, get over it. And besides, the coal miner issue is really fakes news. They can all lose their jobs and it wont move the needle on employment or anyone besides them caring.

Trump is just ginning up an issue and promising the moon and not going to deliver for coal miners.

Plus it's all natural gas anyway. Even though that's bad too.

If we can help the coal miners at all it will be by building solar panel factories in their area. Except those manufacturing jobs are going away and being automated. So they are screwed there too.

In summary, everything was great until Trump was elected and now everything is going to hell quickly.

Try to keep up from here.

I am happy for the natural gas industry.

Trump is really fucking over those coal miners.

Take a deep breath, you seem flustered and have lost the ability to track what different people are saying. Now, what is your overall point?

this thread was supposed to have a point..........

I dunno, do you?

nope

Original point of the thread was whether or not we should be concerned with the job losses associated with the end of the coal industry, and whether or not it's worth protecting them while we can.

Secondarily, people brought up the fact that whether or not coal is dying or should die because it's bad for the environment, we actually rely on coal for a large chunk of our energy needs, and if we stop mining coal, we'll have to replace it with something. The alternatives all have their own drawbacks. Natural gas and nuclear power come with their own environmental problems, and renewable sources don't appear capable of filling the gap yet.

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