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Time For New Snow/Winter Tires
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We've been big fans of the General Altimax Arctic tires for our cars. We've been through a couple of snow/winter tire cycles. They seem to be the Gold-Standard for the mid-priced value oriented snow/winter tire. These tires have got both our cars through some crazy winter storms and conditions.

Where we buy our tires - they have recommended the Kumho I'Zen KW31 as a suggested alternative. They are slightly less than the General's. Because they are a new tire, released last year, online consumer reviews are limited.

Long - shot but looking for some feedback if anyone has any.


Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog
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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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I run Bridgestone Blizzacks on my Volvo XC. Driving 3000 feet uphill / downhill to our local skate ski area 3x per week on what is generally acknowledged as the worst ski hill access road in the US, Bogus Basin road. Other than studded tires, they are the best I've found.
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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [sto] [ In reply to ]
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Timely question for me. I am looking for snow tires for our Jetta. I live in MN.

Do you guys have an extra set of wheels, or do you swap tires in the fall/spring?
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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [J-No] [ In reply to ]
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I just swap the tires. $60 each spring / fall.
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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [sto] [ In reply to ]
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That's what I am thinking.

Thanks.
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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [sto] [ In reply to ]
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sto wrote:
I run Bridgestone Blizzacks on my Volvo XC. Driving 3000 feet uphill / downhill to our local skate ski area 3x per week on what is generally acknowledged as the worst ski hill access road in the US, Bogus Basin road. Other than studded tires, they are the best I've found.

Haha come now, Bogus Basin Rd isn't that bad, especially with all the fresh pavement at the bottom!

We have Blizzaks for our BMW 330, they are awesome, coupled with the traction control it is our best winter car despite it being a convertible and thus the worst winter car.

I have separate wheels for the winter tires. If you are looking for a cheap solution try used on Craigslist. There are always sets of lightly used Blizzaks for sale on there for pretty cheap, many of them come with wheels as well. I had an extra set of wheels for our BMW, but I got the Blizzaks on CL for $200, they had been used for one season and were in like new condition.
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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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Blizzak from Costco. costs me about 450 bucks then pay $40 a season to have them changed out.

I put them on both of my AWD vehicles, makes them beasts on the snowy/icy roads.
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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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Blizzacks on my Volvo V50. What is great about them is how nice they roll when there isn’t snow. ...and in snow? I was passing all kinda vehicles last night here in Ann Arbor...they rock. I always loved this add. Volvos were conceived in winter weather.

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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [J-No] [ In reply to ]
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I have my snow tires on rims, to easy to change them myself and it saves trying book an appointment.

As for tire I have Michelin x-ice this year and they have been great, quiet and great grip on ice, I don't worry to much about getting through thick, deep snow and we haven't had any yet to test them out but the reviews say they should be good.
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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [J-No] [ In reply to ]
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J-No wrote:
Timely question for me. I am looking for snow tires for our Jetta. I live in MN.

Do you guys have an extra set of wheels, or do you swap tires in the fall/spring?

I have a separate set of wheels for both my vehicles for snow tires and just swap them in my garage. Only takes about 30 minutes, I don't have to make an appointment at the shop (at the same time as everyone else), and I can put them on/take them off the day before I want them.
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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [aarondb4] [ In reply to ]
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aarondb4 wrote:
I have separate wheels for the winter tires. If you are looking for a cheap solution try used on Craigslist. There are always sets of lightly used Blizzaks for sale on there for pretty cheap, many of them come with wheels as well. I had an extra set of wheels for our BMW, but I got the Blizzaks on CL for $200, they had been used for one season and were in like new condition.

+1 on Craigslist for used wheels and tires. But be careful buying Blizzaks - the tread compound changes about halfway through, thus the second half of the tread life is lower-performance than the first half. This is my beef with Blizzaks. The best winter tire I know of is the Nokian Hakkapelitta; but they are not cheap.

We run separate sets of summer and winter tires. You get much better tread life this way. I swap them myself, which is quicker and easier than making an appt. at the tire shop.
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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [Ringmaster] [ In reply to ]
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I have a separate set of rims for the winter tires. Bought through Tirerack they come UPS fully mounted. I have had Michelins, Blizzacks and Dunlop. The Dunlops have been the better tires for traction, ride comfort and especially wear.
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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [J-No] [ In reply to ]
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Do you guys have an extra set of wheels, or do you swap tires in the fall/spring?


Best to have the winter tires mounted on separate rims from your summer/3-season tires.

The change-over is quicker easier and less costly, if you are getting your local garage to do it. Also, if you know what you are doing and have a decent jack - you can do it at home.

I'm told this also saves wear and tear on the beads of both your summer and winter tires. Ounce mounted on their rims they are on there for life.


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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry to hijack, but on my Honda minivan, I run the Michelin x-ice. By the end of last winter the front tires tread was very worn, but the rear were pristine.

Should I replace the "front tires", or just run them on the back this winter and use the good ones upfront (front wheel drive car).

Thanks.
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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [mustangchef] [ In reply to ]
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well, if the Swede's can't engineer a car that's great in snow, we're fucked.

I'm on my 2nd V70XC wagon. Volvo for life. This time I went all out, T6 engine, heated rear leather seats, the whole enchilada. I have never loved a car this much.
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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [turtleherder] [ In reply to ]
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I have a separate set of rims for the winter tires.

Do you have TPMS sensors in both sets of rims or just go without for the winter? I read somewhere that going without the sensors can cause issues with traction control, but haven't investigated further as I am not convinced I need winter wheels/tires.
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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [The Guardian] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry to hijack, but on my Honda minivan, I run the Michelin x-ice. By the end of last winter the front tires tread was very worn, but the rear were pristine.


I've heard elsewhere that the Michelin X-ice does wear quicker than other winter tires. It's a trade off for the softer/tackier rubber compounds which make this the #1 tire I've read on ice.

We've normally had 4+ winters out of our General Altimax Arctics. The garage rotates front to back etc . .


Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog
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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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I have a set of X-Ice3 on my vehicle now and noticed no significant wear on them. This the 2nd winter I've ran them. I also rotate my tires pretty regularly every oil change (5k miles).

To the person with the Honda you can get by with 2 new tires only since your vehicle is FWD and remember to rotate your tires. You might want to have your alignment checked too as that wear sound odd. Also, if you drive them in temps warmer than 45 degrees consistently, any winter tire will wear significantly faster than what their designed temp ranges were.

Best tires for winter (non-studded) I've been told is Nokian Hakka R2's for best performance. But they come at a premium but are loved by the tire snobs I know of. The only reason I am running X-Ice's is because of a promotion where I got a couple hundred back in rebates....if it wasn't for that the R2's were on sale for the same overall price when I was tire shopping and I would've went with those instead.

Also, I do have a 2nd set of wheels for these tires and just deal with a TPMS light. It doesn't affect handling in anyway on my Subaru....but I also prefer to turn off the traction control (aka "ESP" on my Subaru) when driving in snow. I learned to how to drive in bad conditions without that stuff and the traction control is counterintuitive to the way I drive in bad weather. Been running 2 set of wheels with a winter tire setup for a long time.
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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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I just put Toyo GSi5's (the ones with nuts) on both my vehicles (front drive Grand Caravan and rear drive CTS) and am pretty happy with them. My brother just changed his out on his 4Runner after getting 7 winters from them through all kinds of conditions, from the black ice of the mountains of BC to the -40 of a Saskatchewan winter.

I was always pretty happy with the Nokians I had previously. I only switched brands because I changed tire shops and this is what my new tire guy recommended.

And to the other question I saw later in the thread, I run a second set of rims. I have my own floor jack and impact wrench, I can change out a set of wheels / tires in under twenty minutes.

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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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No experience with the tires you mentioned, but I have used 6 different brands of snow tires on several different vehicles. From here on out I plan to only use Blizzaks or X-Ice. YMMV but those have worked the best for me over the past 20+ years.

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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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Mich. X-ice. On the lease car have the tires switched. Just bought a wheel / tire set for the Cruze with TPMS, payback is about 4 yrs. Probably could find used wheels cheaper but wasn't worth the time.

With wheels and a jack I can swap all 4 in about 40 min. a swap at a tire shop takes at least an hour. Plus I can do mine in the evening the local tire shops close at 6

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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [aarondb4] [ In reply to ]
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I have run Continental Sure Contact on my Subaru Impreza AWD during winters going up Bogus Basin & up & down Parleys Canyon from Park City to Salt Lake City.

These tires are the best that I have run on. Wear is minimal & they really grip the roads even with snow up to 18 inches.
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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [sto] [ In reply to ]
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sto wrote:
well, if the Swede's can't engineer a car that's great in snow, we're fucked.

I'm on my 2nd V70XC wagon. Volvo for life. This time I went all out, T6 engine, heated rear leather seats, the whole enchilada. I have never loved a car this much.
From what i understand ..no one has ever died in an xc90...true?
we have 3 volvos all v50s..its what works for us ,,,we live a ways out and like the mpg.
but i do own an F150 Lightning and a Mustang GT....both awesome.I work for the Fords.My Volvos have FOMOCO stamped all over them.I hope the Chinese don’t fuck em up'
The drummer in the Seatbelts has a XCwagon, his second..he tried a new Subaru, but went back to Volvo...because he claimed ” the seats are like lazyboys’ "

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Re: Time For New Snow/Winter Tires [The Guardian] [ In reply to ]
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Tire manufacturers say to run the best set in the rear no matter front or rear wheel drive.

For me, nothing beats the Hakkapeliitta r2.



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shannon1 wrote:
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I have a separate set of rims for the winter tires.


Do you have TPMS sensors in both sets of rims or just go without for the winter? I read somewhere that going without the sensors can cause issues with traction control, but haven't investigated further as I am not convinced I need winter wheels/tires.

I haven't heard that before. I run steelies with winter tires on both my cars and just put up with the light. I haven't noticed an issue with traction control in either car with the winter tires on. The sensors were too expensive to get another set just for the winter tires (ignoring the warning light, on the other hand, is free!)
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