"At the end of the day"

Sep 2, 17 10:28

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Like the "let's drill down" thread..................."At the end of the day" has been F&^% pissing me off lately.

I could care less how many ranks you are above me. When you make a statement in a meeting and close it with "at the end of day" in an attempt to make it look like you know more than I do, or you are smarter than I am,,,,Newsflash.....It's not freaking working! So stop saying it because now everyone else at your rank and above are saying it as well. It doesn't make us think you are smarter than us or know more about our operation than we do!

One person said it exactly 3 times in a 7 minute conference call! Really? You want to get us all on the phone and lecture us (a group of people whom, yes, you outrank, but no, you don't have more experience than we do) about a certain situation that we handled in the most professional manner and then keep telling us, "Well at the end of the day...."

WTF does "At the end of the day" mean anyway? We are a 24/7, 365 operation. Our day never, ever, ends!

PSA - Stop saying "At the end of the day" - we are not impressed, and you are saying it so much now that we are beginning to mock you behind your back....and that's not cool! PSA over!

T

Re: "At the end of the day" [tritimmy] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 11:11

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It's almost as bad as "I could care less"...

Re: "At the end of the day" [tritimmy] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 11:12

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PSA - It's "couldn't care less". PSA over.

Edit: It turns out that at the end of the day, Sanuk beat me to it.

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Re: "At the end of the day" [Zenmaster28] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 11:43

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Outstanding!

Re: "At the end of the day" [tritimmy] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 11:44

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I agree that "at the end of the day" is an overused corporate-speak phrase. But, how is it an attempt to make the speaker look smarter or more knowledgeable?

I always took it to mean "after all is said and done" or "to summarize".

"100% of the people who confuse correlation and causation end up dying."

Last edited by: MOP_Mike: Sep 2, 17 11:46

Re: "At the end of the day" [tritimmy] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 11:48

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binary choice

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Re: "At the end of the day" [MOP_Mike] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 11:55

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We are convinced that one of the persons who continually uses this phrase is doing exactly that, trying to make him/herself look smarter than the rest of us. Many times that person uses it so summarize the solution to the problem, that was just stated by someone else in the room.

Re: "At the end of the day" [tritimmy] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 11:57

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When I'm stuck in meetings with people like that, I can't help but think of http://bullshitbingo.net/

As memorialized by Dilbert a couple of decades ago:

Re: "At the end of the day" [tritimmy] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 12:02

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tritimmy wrote:

I could care less ...

Well, then, you should.

If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers

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Re: "At the end of the day" [tritimmy] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 12:45

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President of our company has said that he hates when people say "let me be clear", which he says you might as well tell the person you are speaking to "fuck you" instead.

"You can never win or lose if you don't run the race." - Richard Butler

Re: "At the end of the day" [tritimmy] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 12:53

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"reach out" instead of contact

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Re: "At the end of the day" [tritimmy] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 13:22

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I hear you; but "it is what it is."

Re: "At the end of the day" [tritimmy] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 14:08

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After we circle up to take a deeper dive into this issue at the end of the day the work aroud we dialog will be sufficient.

I don't see "at the end of the day" as anything other then dumb "work speak". I find the postering of calling meangless meetings more frustrating.

"I think I've cracked the code. double letters are cheaters except for perfect squares (a, d, i, p and y). So Leddy isn't a cheater... "

Re: "At the end of the day" [eb] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 14:10

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eb wrote:

When I'm stuck in meetings with people like that, I can't help but think of http://bullshitbingo.net/

As memorialized by Dilbert a couple of decades ago:

I had a sales guy once tell me this happened to him at a meeting. He thought it was funny how quickly someone got bingo.

"I think I've cracked the code. double letters are cheaters except for perfect squares (a, d, i, p and y). So Leddy isn't a cheater... "

Re: "At the end of the day" [HideTheDecline] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 14:16

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HideTheDecline wrote:

I hear you; but "it is what it is."

I am cracking up!

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Re: "At the end of the day" [Leddy] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 18:16

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But what is the ask?

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

Re: "At the end of the day" [tritimmy] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 18:23

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"You're another day older."

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Re: "At the end of the day" [j p o] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 18:52

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j p o wrote:

But what is the ask?

Not sure, let's huddle up later. I'll send you an outlook meeting request.

"I think I've cracked the code. double letters are cheaters except for perfect squares (a, d, i, p and y). So Leddy isn't a cheater... "

Re: "At the end of the day" [Sideways] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 19:31

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Sideways wrote:

"You're another day older."

Remember - It's important to be comfortable in your own skin... because it turns out society frowns on wearing other people's

Re: "At the end of the day" [tritimmy] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 19:48

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"At the end of the day" is very status quo and fatalistic...agreed that it should be avoided. "One Day More" is much more optimistic and gets the blood moving.

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Re: "At the end of the day" [Sideways] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 20:45

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How about " 'til the end of the day"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIc-RnqjwWA

Re: "At the end of the day" [MOP_Mike] [ In reply to ]

Sep 2, 17 22:55

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MOP_Mike wrote:

I agree that "at the end of the day" is an overused corporate-speak phrase. But, how is it an attempt to make the speaker look smarter or more knowledgeable?

I always took it to mean "after all is said and done" or "to summarize".

Yes, it means "to summarize" to some extent, but as I've seen it used, it is more like:

"let ME summarize"

or

"this discussion over as I will now summarize and no further discussion is necessary"

Often the person who uses the phrase claims that discussion is over per his call. So the person is either exercising authority in the meeting or claiming to be in position of authority per his knowledge. So to challenge the "end of day" claim, you must challenge the person directly.

If the boss says, "at the end of the day," it means, shut up I'm done with this discussion. If a peer says, "at the end of the day" you decide whether to say, "it may be the end of your day, but the sun has just risen on this issue because you haven't considered . . . ."

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Re: "At the end of the day" [tritimmy] [ In reply to ]

Sep 3, 17 2:10

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The big one at my work these days is "this is a must-win battle".

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Re: "At the end of the day" [last tri in 83] [ In reply to ]

Sep 3, 17 2:18

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last tri in 83 wrote:

"reach out" instead of contact

👿 I so hate that phrase! What, do you have Gumby arms or something?

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Nashville, TN
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Re: "At the end of the day" [j p o] [ In reply to ]

Sep 3, 17 4:43

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j p o wrote:

But what is the ask?

Let's all consider the optics of this situation.

''The enemy isn't conservatism. The enemy isn't liberalism. The enemy is bulls**t.''

—Lars-Erik Nelson

Re: "At the end of the day" [Sideways] [ In reply to ]

Sep 3, 17 7:19

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Sideways wrote:

"You're another day older."

My daughter sings in a choir and sang some Les Mis tunes so every time I hear someone say "at the end of the day" this instantly pops into my head.

Re: "At the end of the day" [Sideways] [ In reply to ]

Sep 3, 17 8:35

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"At the end of the day" is very status quo and fatalistic.

The millennial punks now write "EOD" as a short form when responding in writing.

Re: "At the end of the day" [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]

clydethepointer

Sep 3, 17 18:54

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"bubble it up"

Re: "At the end of the day" [tritimmy] [ In reply to ]

Sep 5, 17 6:59

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Like, know what I mean? Ugh.

Re: "At the end of the day" [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]

Sep 5, 17 7:40

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I only use EOD to indicate either a deadline or when I will supply something and prefer it to COB because I either don't need it until the next day or have to work in the evening to finish it. I wouldn't use it if I was going to summarize something.
Ben

Re: "At the end of the day" [tritimmy] [ In reply to ]

Sep 5, 17 8:27

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inbox me.

Re: "At the end of the day" [abies] [ In reply to ]

Sep 5, 17 8:29

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abies wrote:

I only use EOD to indicate either a deadline or when I will supply something and prefer it to COB because I either don't need it until the next day or have to work in the evening to finish it. I wouldn't use it if I was going to summarize something.
Ben

Same. "EOD" is not the same as "at the end of the day" in most workplaces. I've also never seen "at the end of the day" be used in an authoritative/ranking/challenging manner. Where I work, it's almost more of an honest assessment phrase. "At the end of the day, this is where we stand."

The new buzzword in my company is "candidly." One executive used it no less than 15 times in a 30 minute meeting the other day.

Re: "At the end of the day" [MOP_Mike] [ In reply to ]

Sep 5, 17 9:13

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MOP_Mike wrote:

I agree that "at the end of the day" is an overused corporate-speak phrase. But, how is it an attempt to make the speaker look smarter or more knowledgeable?

I always took it to mean "after all is said and done" or "to summarize".

It's an attempt at conformity. Not smarter or more knowledgeable but safe and protective.

Re: "At the end of the day" [last tri in 83] [ In reply to ]

Sep 6, 17 2:12

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last tri in 83 wrote:

"reach out" instead of contact

http://www.youtube.com/...MTXFu8No&t=1m39s

Somebody embed this will ya!

Re: "At the end of the day" [Andrew69] [ In reply to ]

Sep 6, 17 5:44

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I was in a leadership conference yesterday and the presenter said, "You lead best when the shepherd smells like the sheep".

Re: "At the end of the day" [DJRed] [ In reply to ]

Sep 6, 17 6:15

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DJRed wrote:

I was in a leadership conference yesterday and the presenter said, "You lead best when the shepherd smells like the sheep".

I worked on a project in Indonesia with a bunch of New Zealanders. They smelled like sheep. The only way that was from Leadership was if Leadership is a 100 proof drink.

Remember - It's important to be comfortable in your own skin... because it turns out society frowns on wearing other people's

Re: "At the end of the day" [H-] [ In reply to ]

Sep 6, 17 14:52

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H- wrote:

MOP_Mike wrote:

I agree that "at the end of the day" is an overused corporate-speak phrase. But, how is it an attempt to make the speaker look smarter or more knowledgeable?

I always took it to mean "after all is said and done" or "to summarize".

Yes, it means "to summarize" to some extent, but as I've seen it used, it is more like:

"let ME summarize"

or

"this discussion over as I will now summarize and no further discussion is necessary"

Often the person who uses the phrase claims that discussion is over per his call. So the person is either exercising authority in the meeting or claiming to be in position of authority per his knowledge. So to challenge the "end of day" claim, you must challenge the person directly.

If the boss says, "at the end of the day," it means, shut up I'm done with this discussion. If a peer says, "at the end of the day" you decide whether to say, "it may be the end of your day, but the sun has just risen on this issue because you haven't considered . . . ."

As I see it used most often, it's meant as a wrap-up acknowledgement of an unpopular or regrettable but necessary decision, as in "Here are all the caveats, disclaimers, and known pitfalls ~ blah blah blah ~ but at the end of the day we still gotta go w/ Plan C..."

It's basically subbed out 'nevertheless' but perhaps sounds more folksy and less stilted.

Re: "At the end of the day" [OneGoodLeg] [ In reply to ]

Sep 6, 17 16:57

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I am fond of "be that as it may" when dismissing concerns and indicating that a course of action has been chosen.

drn92

Re: "At the end of the day" [tritimmy] [ In reply to ]

Sep 6, 17 18:32

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At the end of the day...

We will all have agree to disagree!

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