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Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk
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I'm not sure where I'd be able to post a link to this podcast, but I thought it was very good and well worth a listen if you've got a spare 3 hours. I found it to be very non partisan and intelligent, though one may not agree with all of the points that were brought up.

In a nutshell they talk about Trump's talents in the art of persuasion, why he really won debates that we thought he lost, and how we are entering the age of the social media president and how things can change similar to when we entered the age of the TV president with (I believe) JFK.

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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, I really enjoyed Adam's blogs about the election.

Swim. Overbike. Walk.
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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Driving to Riverside tomorrow so I'll give it a listen.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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I've got it ready to listen to this week. Also the latest Sam Harris.
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [GrimOopNorth] [ In reply to ]
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GrimOopNorth wrote:
Yes, I really enjoyed Adam's blogs about the election.

I found his blog through the LR about a year ago. He nailed the outcome and told how and why it would happen. And of course, the left has now made him a target to destroy.
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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Poor bastard. Arm yourself.
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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BarryP wrote:
I'm not sure where I'd be able to post a link to this podcast, but I thought it was very good and well worth a listen if you've got a spare 3 hours. I found it to be very non partisan and intelligent, though one may not agree with all of the points that were brought up.

In a nutshell they talk about Trump's talents in the art of persuasion, why he really won debates that we thought he lost, and how we are entering the age of the social media president and how things can change similar to when we entered the age of the TV president with (I believe) JFK.

I finally got around to listening to the Armstrong interview, I'll put this one in the queue.
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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For some reason I find Joe Rogan unlistenable even though I generally agree with what he has to say.
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [dvfmfidc] [ In reply to ]
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dvfmfidc wrote:
Poor bastard. Arm yourself.

I don't have a CCW.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [Old Hickory] [ In reply to ]
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I heard that - do you know why?

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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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Listened.

Thought his hypnotist background and perspective interesting.

Other than that he didn't say anything that I didn't already know 8 months ago.

In fact, I posted Adams' blog prediction here back when it was first written.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [GrimOopNorth] [ In reply to ]
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GrimOopNorth wrote:
I heard that - do you know why?

Why he's being targeted? Early in the campaign, he spoke positively about Trump, primarily his strengths of persuasion, and the left understood it as support and/or endorsement of Trump.
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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Your a "Thug", you don't need one....
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [dvfmfidc] [ In reply to ]
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dvfmfidc wrote:
Your a "Thug", you don't need one....

I am?

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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Adams is an interesting guy, and made many salient points, though most were specific to him winning over crowds in ways that didn't necessarily paint his supporters in the most favorable light. They also say nothing about his ability to govern effectively, but then that wasn't the focus of his analysis.

Adams' analysis essentially pointed to a truism that I learned a long time ago, and that Trump executed far better than any of his competition, Hillary Clinton in particular: if you want to win an argument, you have to win them to you first. Trump was excellent at emoting, and convincing people he felt exactly the same way half of America did, but even more emphatically about those things than they did themselves, and so they paid far less attention to the details, the hedges, and the reversals, because they knew he was on their side.

I'd listen to Rogan more often if his podcasts weren't so damn long, though that format does lend itself to deeper and broader topic discussion, when he hosts a guest worth listening to.

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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [sphere] [ In reply to ]
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I usually don't listen to them all at once. I didn't find the Adams installment all that interesting, at least as it pertained to Trump. Pretty obvious stuff. (Dude's ideas about living in a software simulation, on the other hand . . . )

Anyone listen to the Jon Jones podcast? That guy hasn't matured at ALL. More trouble in his future.








"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [vitus979] [ In reply to ]
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vitus979 wrote:
I usually don't listen to them all at once. I didn't find the Adams installment all that interesting, at least as it pertained to Trump. Pretty obvious stuff. (Dude's ideas about living in a software simulation, on the other hand . . . )

Anyone listen to the Jon Jones podcast? That guy hasn't matured at ALL. More trouble in his future.

Started the jj interview yesterday (about half way through and I think I've heard enough).

Couple of things REALLY stood out.

- "I think I can drink responsibly at some time in the future..."

Uh, highly unlikely.

- His obsession with having a boy is unhealthy. If he fails that goal he'll likely relapse.

- His foremost concern about his hit and run accident was how it did, and how it could have, affected him. His "concern" for the health of the woman and her unborn child was only in the context of if she or the baby died he could have faced murder charges.

He didn't really seem to be concerned about his hit and run victim at all. Only how her status pertained to his punishment.

- Unless he talked about later there was zero mention of his cocaine use. Also, related to my first point and speaking from the experience of being an alcoholic and also living with a few (including a "cocaine addict") I can tell you that his "plan" of being a social drinker will just be a stepping stone to getting an 8ball in no time.

My "cocaine addict" room mate was really just an alcoholic that did blow when he got drunk. He tried to quit coke many times (while still drinking "socially") but always failed....until he quit drinking.

Jon Jones is a train wreck.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, all of that and more.

That bit about having a boy was particularly weird. He thinks God has been waiting for him to mature enough to give him a son, so in the meantime he got four daughters instead? Okaaaaay. Then a few minutes later he's talking about the "tremendous respect" he has for women. R i i i i i i i i i i i i ght.








"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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I find these points interesting given that you are an alcoholic that currently dabbles in recreational drug usage.

One would think that is also a terrible idea. Although I know nothing about drugs and their addictiveness.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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BLeP wrote:
I find these points interesting given that you are an alcoholic that currently dabbles in recreational drug usage.

One would think that is also a terrible idea. Although I know nothing about drugs and their addictiveness.

Short answer?

My problem was with alcohol. The other drugs I do so infrequently it just isn't an issue.

Molly - maybe a dozen times on the last 2 years (and haven't done any for almost 3 months). Before 2 years ago I hadn't had any in 20 years.

Pot - I ate some a few weeks ago. Before that I couldn't really tell you when I did it.

Shrooms - once or twice a year, if that.

I also occasionally take a Xanax but not in a "recreational" sense.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [sphere] [ In reply to ]
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sphere wrote:
he felt exactly the same way half of America did

Well more like a quarter of Americans, half of Americans didn't even bother to vote.
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [vitus979] [ In reply to ]
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vitus979 wrote:
I usually don't listen to them all at once. I didn't find the Adams installment all that interesting, at least as it pertained to Trump. Pretty obvious stuff. (Dude's ideas about living in a software simulation, on the other hand . . . )

Anyone listen to the Jon Jones podcast? That guy hasn't matured at ALL. More trouble in his future.

I tend to agree. The Obamacare part was weird. Its a success because 90% of it failed yet 10% will make it through?? He made it sound like some master plot by Obama while completely discounting its role in all elections since it was passed.
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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Duffy wrote:
BLeP wrote:
I find these points interesting given that you are an alcoholic that currently dabbles in recreational drug usage.

One would think that is also a terrible idea. Although I know nothing about drugs and their addictiveness.


Short answer?

My problem was with alcohol. The other drugs I do so infrequently it just isn't an issue.

Molly - maybe a dozen times on the last 2 years (and haven't done any for almost 3 months). Before 2 years ago I hadn't had any in 20 years.

Pot - I ate some a few weeks ago. Before that I couldn't really tell you when I did it.

Shrooms - once or twice a year, if that.

I also occasionally take a Xanax but not in a "recreational" sense.

Is Molly like hallucinogens where becoming addicted is not an issue, or can it be addictive?
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [Uncle Arqyle] [ In reply to ]
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He made it sound like some master plot by Obama while completely discounting its role in all elections since it was passed.

I think he's underestimating the current likelihood of scrapping it, too.









"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [ThisIsIt] [ In reply to ]
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ThisIsIt wrote:
Duffy wrote:
BLeP wrote:
I find these points interesting given that you are an alcoholic that currently dabbles in recreational drug usage.

One would think that is also a terrible idea. Although I know nothing about drugs and their addictiveness.


Short answer?

My problem was with alcohol. The other drugs I do so infrequently it just isn't an issue.

Molly - maybe a dozen times on the last 2 years (and haven't done any for almost 3 months). Before 2 years ago I hadn't had any in 20 years.

Pot - I ate some a few weeks ago. Before that I couldn't really tell you when I did it.

Shrooms - once or twice a year, if that.

I also occasionally take a Xanax but not in a "recreational" sense.

Is Molly like hallucinogens where becoming addicted is not an issue, or can it be addictive?

Molly can cause hallucinations in high doses. Mostly it just makes one feel euphoria and extreme empathy.

I actually highly r commend it for loving couples to drive together.

It can be "addictive" I suppose. Here's the thing though, it doesn't reall work if you do it too often and the come down can be pretty bad. It would be really hard IMHO to get hooked on it.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [vitus979] [ In reply to ]
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vitus979 wrote:
Anyone listen to the Jon Jones podcast? That guy hasn't matured at ALL. More trouble in his future.

He had the potential to be the greatest MMA fighter in history but he's scrambled eggs between the ears. He seems like he has the emotional and mental intelligence of a 15 year old. He continues to make horrible life decisions and he talks about the significant consequences in the same light as getting a flat tire. It's like he's disconnected from reality.
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Re: Joe Rogan and Scott Adams post election talk [sphere] [ In reply to ]
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sphere wrote:
Adams' analysis essentially pointed to a truism that I learned a long time ago, and that Trump executed far better than any of his competition, Hillary Clinton in particular: if you want to win an argument, you have to win them to you first. Trump was excellent at emoting, and convincing people he felt exactly the same way half of America did, but even more emphatically about those things than they did themselves, and so they paid far less attention to the details, the hedges, and the reversals, because they knew he was on their side.

I'm a regular guest on an economics talk show hosted out of Rollins College. During the Republican primary I commented that there was a very stark difference between Trump and all of the career politicians up on the stage and that Trump was having a conversation with the audience few people were aware of. As you said, he was emoting. Humans have an innate social intelligence. It's running in the background of our minds constantly and we're not even aware of it. It's that "gut" feeling when we think someone is lying to us or if we run across a person that we think might threaten us physically. It's hardwired.

Did I think Trump was going to get the nomination? No. Did I think he was going to win? No. But I did think the whole thing was going to be a lot closer than anyone in the mainstream thought because Trump was doing something that career politicians weren't even capable of understanding.
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