I don't like the idea of any doctors going on TV diagnosing people they haven't actually examined. There are some reputable doctors doing it, but it is against ethical standards. I heard a debate on this with some ethicist from NYU and he said that basically it comes down to freedom of speech and ethics. So no penalties will likely be handed out.

But what does bother me is the fact that CNN has had numerous people "diagnose" trump's mental health. They should be banned as well.

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"In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway." T Durden

And he was also wrong IMO at least as to the issue of blood thinners. There are many reasons for someone to be on coumadin and not xarelto, for example. I sorta scratched my head as to why he decided to stick his nose in that issue. Seemed a bit professionally irresponsible without a full examination of a person.

He addressed exactly that in the interview and said: He is speaking as a medical doctor and stated his opinion based upon the released medical report. It was more of an indictment of the care Hillary and her doctors have chosen for her.

The August interview echoes much of what Pinsky stated in January. He took issue with the medications Clinton is being treated with and pointed out she is not taking modern medications. He stated he was gravely concerned about her health care. In both interviews, Pinsky expressed his worry that Hillary Clinton’s health is in jeopardy due to the current level of medical care she’s receiving.

“But the fact is she released her medical records some time ago, and if you listened to my show last week, I just called a friend of mine, Dr. Robert Huizenga, who’s an excellent internist pulmonologist, and we just dispassionately sat and evaluated the medical record that she had released. And based on the information that she has provided and her doctors have provided, we were gravely concerned not just about her health, but her health care.”

Dr. Drew described the basic facts they surmised from the medical report. He stated that her treatment was bizarre.

“What’s wrong with her coagulation system? Has that been evaluated? And oh, by the way, Armour Thyroid associated rarely with hypercoagulability. So the very medicine the doctors are using may be causing this problem, and they’re using an old-fashioned medicine to treat it. What is going on with her health care? It’s bizarre. I got to tell you. Maybe they have reasons, but at a distance, it looks bizarre.”

It was after these comments that Dr. Drew referred to Hillary Clinton suffering brain damage.

“When she hit her head, she had to wear these prism glasses when she came out. That is brain damage, and it’s affecting her balance. Now clearly, it hasn’t affected her cognition, but tell us a little more about that. That’s profound.
“And then number two, when they screened her for heart disease, again, they did an old-fashioned screen. It just seems like she’s getting care from somebody that she met in Arkansas when she was a kid, and you’ve got to wonder. You’ve got to wonder. It’s not so much that her health is a grave concern. It’s that the care she’s getting could make it a concern

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/...#2QgiIJmQVuxsbx9Z.99

I think he has certainly done better than most. If he is working directly off medical records, that is definitely in fairer territory. That would be no different than a CPA or attorney commenting on what they see in tax returns.

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"In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway." T Durden

But it's okay for Matt Lauer or George Stephanopoulos to comment on any issue, medical or not?

Geez. We're hopeless.

What I don't get is why do we care what shape the president is in? If they die we have a very deep and well thought out line of succession. I would think the righties that hate Clinton would want a really poor health record.

It's really not like anyone is going to change their vote because the president is more or less likely to die in office. They are voting for an ideology not even really the person.

~Matt

Well they're experts on everything Dr. Drew is just a "Love Doctor".










Except: Dr. Drew Pinsky is a practicing physician, Board Certified in Internal Medicine, and Board Certified in Addiction Medicine. Pinsky is also Assistant Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the Keck USC School of Medicine.

Secretary Clinton’s physician, Lisa Bardack, MD, earned her medical degree in 1990, so she was even not in practice when Mrs. Clinton was a child or when she was living in Arkansas as First Lady of the state.


Finally, Dr. Bardack is a board-certified internist, and Director of Internal Medicine at the Mount Sinai Health System at CareMount Medical. She is a graduate of the University of Pennsylvania and the NYU School of Medicine. She did her internship and residency at Cornell. Dr. Bardack is rated one of “America’s Top Doctors®” by the prestigious Castle Connolly directory and physician-led research group.



Meanwhile, Pinsky is known for “Loveline,” and “Celebrity Rehab,” while Huizenga’s claim to fame is “The Biggest Loser” and being Charlie Sheen’s physician.

Read the rest of why he should have kept his mouth shut here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...47d5e4b07d22cc374585

He is making statements about care and medicine but has no idea why they chose the route they did.

Forge is right, he has no business diagnosing someone he has never seen, just like a psychiatrist has no business diagnosing Trump with anything other than having tiny tiny hands.

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

Yeah who cares if the one who controls the football has brain damage :-)

Hahaha! Is this the part where I am suppose to go- That's a left wing dish rag that makes MSNBC look conservative (Thanks Cerveloguy).

No, it is the part where you actually read and learn.

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

Yeah who cares if the one who controls the football has brain damage :-)

Pretty much a non issue once one considers the checks and balances. It's not like there's a button sitting by the side of the presidents bed that she can just wake up in the middle of the night and push and launch a bunch of nukes. if she gets up and starts screaming "We are being invaded by pink fluffy bunnies from Russia NUKE EM'!!!" Pretty sure people aren't going to start enter codes and pressing buttons.

~Matt

You mean kind of like taking people with serious drug addictions and exploiting them on a reality TV show? I don't think Dr. Drew's all that worried about professional responsibility.

Yeah, that too

What!
Are you telling me all those years when I was told presidents like Reagan and the Bush's could just grab the football and start a Nuclear war this was BS.

Do you recall the conversations about McCain's age during his campaign and that we could end up with Palin? It was all over the place as a serious issue. I specifically remember age tables like it was done by an actuary.

I really thought this would eliminate her. Democrats love to talk about how Reagan was too old when he left to the countries detriment, this evolved into the criticism over McCain, which was legitimate. I posted here how I didn't think that hypocrisy could pass. I was wrong, like a lot of the crap I expected better of from the dems.

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"In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway." T Durden

Do you recall the conversations about McCain's age during his campaign and that we could end up with Palin? It was all over the place as a serious issue. I specifically remember age tables like it was done by an actuary.

That's a concern if the running mate is a worse choice then the candidate. I'd have been ok with McCain but Palin concerns me. In this case I might be Ok with Kaine but Clinton concerns me :-)

In either case if you were OK for voting for McCain/Palin or Clinton/Kaine you really should not be concerned about their running mate being president.

~Matt

They are both too old, as was Bernie. But now what? We have had 837 reasons to not nominate these two but there they are.

Back in the 80's those of you as old as me might remember when Bobcat Goldthwait was funny. Talking about Reagan, "my grandpa is 75 too, we don't leave him in charge of the remote."

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

I didn't know this guy was still on TV. Can't imagine who watches him. Once, I happened to watch an episode of some show he had where he was trying to treat celebs with drug problems. Only watched one episode. Unwatchable.

FIFY


So you are saying that you think Clinton is too old? So you aren't voting for Trump either because he is 2 years older than Clinton.

Apparently you aren't voting for McCain in his senate race because he is now 8 years older than when you felt he was too old to be president and is running for a term that is 2 years longer than the one Clinton is running for? He is also 11 years older than Clinton.

Reading the article I didn't see him diagnose anything. He read her released medical records and questioned the quality of the care she has been receiving. CNN is going back to being the Clinton News Network.

Nothing to see here regarding Dr. Drew.

You all missed the only important piece of news. Nacey Grace's show is being cancelled, resulting in a net benefit to the human race.

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I didn't say that. I said the left and the media said they were too old. She is now older than they were, I had hoped they would stay consistent.

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"In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway." T Durden

Also primary is Monday. I am not voting for McCain. I'm voting for Ward. And if he does win the primary, yes I will vote for him over the democrat. If he dies in office or republican governor will choose a replacement. Even if I cared about age, which I don't, there is a big difference between a senator and a president.

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"In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway." T Durden

I'm not sure if the 2 candidates are in a race for the Presidency or to see who can get the least number of votes.

If Clinton's medical records are bad, at least they took more than 5 minutes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/...r-just-got-stranger/

That letter is epic. Mr Tump has great health. The greatest. Only the very best health. Everyone says so. Lots of people are talking about how healthy he is. The greatest health.

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It seems Dr Drew was making some sense. Maby we should be looking at her more resent medical records or have a independent Doc. check her out like they do in the military. If this is good enough for a grunt how about the Commander in Chief?

Here she is dying on stage and blaming Trump for it "Warning almost unwatchable"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nn0vjOFdDc
No wonder she has been avoiding the press!

And she admits to memory loss to the FBI. Because of brain damage she didn't understand, remember or know how to deal with classified information. Remember though the FBI is fine with this because they couldn't find proof of "intent". Stupidity and lying there is plenty of that but not "intent".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96PePGyWA-4

His cardinal sin is publicly diagnosing someone without having examined them. If I do that I potentially lose my license

Dr. Drew should just be thankful that he's still alive.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

is it illegal for you to give an educated opinion?
if a medical expert prefaced something with 'in my opinion' vs 'my diagnosis', can that cover your ass?
or maybe a lawyer should answer the question, cuz that's who'd be debating it when you get taken to court.
these people are everywhere...geesh.

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We covered this in earlier post.

More doctors walking the thin line:

http://www.wnd.com/...ion-hillarys-health/

I like this because it is so true:
"Imagine, if you would, that tomorrow Donald Trump suffers a concussion. Suppose he trips on a flight of stairs, falling down and hitting his head.
The head injury is so severe that he is unconscious for a time and has to be hospitalized for a week. After getting out of the hospital, the Trump campaign tells us that he has fully recovered and that there are no lingering effects of the head trauma. During the following weeks, he is seen in public to wear glasses with a Fresnel lens on one side. He also seems to have trouble maintaining his balance, loses his thoughts in the middle of speeches, and has episodes of spasmodic movements suggestive of seizures.
In this imaginary scenario, would it surprise anyone if the media became skeptical and pressed for release of Mr. Trump’s medical records? Would it surprise anyone if the Clinton campaign made an issue of Mr. Trump’s health status during speeches and in TV ads? Would the media cry ‘foul’ over the Clinton campaign doing so? I think the answers to these questions are self-evident. The media and the Clinton campaign would be all over this like white on rice, and no one would question the appropriateness of their actions"

Under this scenario the media would have a heyday. It would be front page everywhere.

Watch the poor sap David Seaman (on the link) a huffpo contributor who got sacked for suggesting the emperor has no clothes. He looks generally scared that the retribution will not end there.

Do you ever bother to check out who these "prominent" doctors actually are? The first one is ED of a group whose stated purpose is to "fight socialized medicine and to fight the government takeover of medicine." The second one: Dr. Lee Hieb, author of “Surviving the Medical Meltdown: Your Guide to Living Through the Disaster of Obamacare,”

Yeah, no agendas here.

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I am sure most have an agenda. Just like the media has an agenda.

WTF is she hacking up? Gross

Something ain't right (and it doesn't take a doctor to see that)...

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JSA's balls.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

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Never said it was illegal. He made a very questionable and public medical statement without examining the patient. This leaves him open to licensing board action and possibly a liable suit.

Would you "potentially loose your license" if you said...

"What the fuck are those green blobs that she puked up?"

Seriously, man. Something is definitely wrong with her. It really doesn't take a medical doctor to see that. She has has multiple coughing fits over several weeks. This last one she coughs up two big green balls of sludge. She doesn't say something like "Oh, yeah I've been battling a cold. This campaigning is really grueling and I need a couple days to rest."

Instead she says, "nothing to see here! Trump is a racist!"

Seriously, man. Open your eyes and mind, just a little, and look at this objectively.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

Remember when Rubio took a drink of water during a speech? The main stream had an orgasm.

Marco Rubio's "water bottle-gate" moment - CBS News

Time magazine-Marco Rubio’s Gulpgate
Marco Rubio Water Bottle at State of the Union ... - ABC News
Rubio halts response for awkward drink of water - Video on NBCNews ..


Hillary just had a short gaggle with the press she travels with, it lasted a few minutes and then she started hawking up lungers again.
No mainstream reporting or skits about this.

Nothing mentioned about her admitting to the FBI she has brain damage from a concusion and blood clot so she can't recall. All ignored.
Hillary press conference March - last year
"I am certainly well aware of the classification requirements"

Hillary criminal investigation July - this year
“Clinton could not recall any briefing or training by State related to the retention of federal records or handling of classified information.”
In the FBI report she claims she "can't recall" 39 times, this including details of her emailing and classification habits at least 12 times.

What other things did she forget that pertain to national security? Do we want to trust her holding the highest power of office if she has brain damage and can't remember things?

The silence on this is deafening!