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Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle
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The runners are coming up on 250 miles in this last person standing format ultramarathon. More than 60 hours of running now, 4.xx miles per lap, one lap an hour. Until nobody’s left.

Live coverage on Youtube is worth looking at from 10 minutes before the top of the hour as the remaining runners finish a lap and stagger off to their tents, or announce they are dropping out, and the stroke of the hour when the next lap begins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVTLNbWiWYM[/url]

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [SharonMcN] [ In reply to ]
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Bell Buckle is just down the road from me. They are having fantastic weather this year.

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [SharonMcN] [ In reply to ]
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SharonMcN wrote:
The runners are coming up on 250 miles in this last person standing format ultramarathon. More than 60 hours of running now, 4.xx miles per lap, one lap an hour. Until nobody’s left.

Live coverage on Youtube is worth looking at from 10 minutes before the top of the hour as the remaining runners finish a lap and stagger off to their tents, or announce they are dropping out, and the stroke of the hour when the next lap begins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVTLNbWiWYM[/url]


Approaching 3 days/300 miles now

Edit: adding live timing link https://my.raceresult.com/266852/#0_B3DC1F
Last edited by: andy12: Oct 24, 23 3:48
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [andy12] [ In reply to ]
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About 24 runners still going. Let's see how many decide to pull at 72 hours.

Anyone have any favourites out there?

Phil Gore for me. He's just so suited to this format. With his wife as his main support crew, they're so organised and efficient.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [satanellus] [ In reply to ]
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May come down to him and sam harvey who's looking pretty consistent and has done 100 yards before, I think
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [SharonMcN] [ In reply to ]
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19 runners have just started lap 76. One of them completed lap 75 with just 4 seconds to spare!
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [andy12] [ In reply to ]
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andy12 wrote:
May come down to him and sam harvey who's looking pretty consistent and has done 100 yards before, I think

All four with personal bests over 100 yards are still in it.
Phil Gore (102)
Sam Harvey (101)
Merijn Geertz (101)
Ivo Steyaert (101)
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [SharonMcN] [ In reply to ]
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They are down to 12 runners who have passed 341 miles.

The runners include past winner Harvey Lewis.

Here is the leaderboard.

https://my.raceresult.com/266852/#0_B3DC1F

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [SharonMcN] [ In reply to ]
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Interesting that the actual time running between the first and last guy still running is over 11 hours.

Let food be thy medicine...
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [JackStraw13] [ In reply to ]
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Right, and that represents different strategies. Run fast and get more rest, run slower and do a more consistent effort through the hour but risk falling behind.

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [SharonMcN] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah - Run fast and bank time, but you're gonna need more recovery

The thing is this - what you did the LAST hour, doesn't matter; everything resets

My Black Friday 20K Solo Relay (4 5Ks, 6 hours apart) seemed crazy at the time we invented it back in 2008 or so, but it's EASY compared to this

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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Strangely addictive. Best to tune in around 50 minutes after the hour to see them finish a lap and stick around for the launch of the next lap.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [Ijustrun] [ In reply to ]
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Ijustrun wrote:
andy12 wrote:
May come down to him and sam harvey who's looking pretty consistent and has done 100 yards before, I think


All four with personal bests over 100 yards are still in it.
Phil Gore (102)
Sam Harvey (101)
Merijn Geertz (101)
Ivo Steyaert (101)


85 hours/ 354 miles / 570km completed with 10 runners remaining.

Steyaert dropped out at 80 hours.

Quite an international field remains. 2 from the US, 2 from Belgium, one each from Aust, NZ, Japan, Poland, Spain, Canada.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [LacticacidMCB] [ In reply to ]
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Good thing I have to go to bed, this could get addicting watching those 10 minutes each hour. As a former pro and current struggling age grouper, I can really feel their pain, and understand the mental struggles they must be going through at this point in the race. Seems like about 3 of them seem ok, the others are running on fumes and guts...

I will pick this up again in the morning, hurts me to think some will probably still be running when I get up from my cozy sleep.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [monty] [ In reply to ]
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After making the cut on the previous lap by 42 seconds, Sarrau (Spain) didn't finish the 90th lap under the hour.

Now down to 9 runners. The fourth night continues.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [satanellus] [ In reply to ]
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Phil Gore just whipped out a 43 minute lap for the 91st hour. I'm guessing he's aiming to get in 15 minutes of quality sleep before heading out for lap 92.

Go Aussie!
Last edited by: satanellus: Oct 25, 23 0:06
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [satanellus] [ In reply to ]
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Another favourite gone. Sam Harvey of NZ pulls the plug.

8 remaining.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Check out Howie Stern's IG for photos

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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Extremely addicting to tune in each hour to see who's still in. I'm pulling for Harvey Lewis. When they switched to the trail loop yesterday he ran the first mile in ~6 min pace as if to say "shut up legs, we're just getting started". I'm expecting the 8 remaining runners to try to gut it out to 100 laps. After that we'll see who really wants to win...

A 6 hour marathon sounds easy. I'd like to think I could get to 10 laps. 100 is just absolutely insane.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [scenicRoute] [ In reply to ]
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I'm late getting out for my morning run - watching the end of lap 97. The video and leaderboard are worth mentioning for their quality and utility. A few cams are shown (and labeled!) as a multiscreen while runners are on course. The leaderboard is clear, informative and updated each lap. Ironman might learn something! And the sunrise in the forest - waaay prettier than my run that will start as soon as these guys depart to start lap 98!
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [scenicRoute] [ In reply to ]
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8 just started lap 98….

Let food be thy medicine...
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [JackStraw13] [ In reply to ]
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We're into day 5 and with 8 runners still in the game, we'll almost certainly have a new record within the next 6 hours.

Anyone care to guess how far they'll push this?

Current record in this format is 102 hours / 408 miles / 656 km.

450 miles? 750 km? 120 hours (500 miles in 5 days)? Further?

Will the fifth night with only snatches of sleep be what breaks these guys? Will the final two (or even three) runners just agree to simultaneously call it quits?
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [satanellus] [ In reply to ]
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I'll place a random guess at 112 for the new record

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [satanellus] [ In reply to ]
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I have to say, this has been an incredible race regardless of how it finishes. I've been glued to a video that's essentially a trail cam for 50% of the time.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [Birdmantris] [ In reply to ]
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Belgium's Frank Gielen has pulled out after completing his 97th lap. Down to 7 runners now.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [satanellus] [ In reply to ]
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And then there were seven...

I’m guessing this goes 110 hours and exhaustion finally takes hold with the fifth night. Laz posted that they’re at the point where drops are coming without warning so it’s reaching the “who wants it more” stage. I think with this being the world championship on the OG course they all want to see how far they can really go so no way this ends in a tie.

Funny exchange that shows what kind of mental status they’re in:
Crew: There’s your chair.
Runner: What do I do?
Crew: Sit in it.
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Ing. wrote:
I have to say, this has been an incredible race regardless of how it finishes. I've been glued to a video that's essentially a trail cam for 50% of the time.

Agreed. They’re amazing and I’m so glad they live-streamed the event.

Laz uses the phrase for his journey races but it also applies here: “Ordinary people doing extraordinary things”
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [Ijustrun] [ In reply to ]
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Funny exchange that shows what kind of mental status they’re in:
Crew: There’s your chair.
Runner: What do I do?
Crew: Sit in it.

Beware The Chair!!!

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [Ijustrun] [ In reply to ]
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I agree. I think the fifth night will be the decider.

Not sure two runners will last the night, so if three can get past sunset, maybe 2am finish. 115 laps / 479 miles / 770km.

It's definitely getting less predictable out there. Sam Harvey's times were solid prior to his decision to pull out at 2am. Completed his final lap in 49 minutes. Didn't appear to be struggling with the clock, but in ultras, many other demons lurk during the graveyard shift.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [satanellus] [ In reply to ]
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There's 170 metres / 557 feet of ascent and descent on the trail loop, which they crank out 11 times during daylight. Then 13 hours of road loop at night.

They've now done 8000 metres of daylight climbing and descending. That's over 26200 feet.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [satanellus] [ In reply to ]
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Now only 6. Jon Noll timed out.

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [satanellus] [ In reply to ]
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John Noll (USA) has been timed out.

Now down to 6 runners. One each from Aus, Poland, Japan, Belgium, Canada and US.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [satanellus] [ In reply to ]
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U.S. athlete Harvey Lewis is a previous winner and previous assist (meaning he came in second to the winner) at Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra. He’s also a previous winner and many-time podium achiever at Badwater. And was a member of the U.S. 24-hour running team.

He’s a high school history teacher in Cincinnati who has done human-powered commutes to work for years now. Most days he runs, occasionally racing a city bus to work. But sometimes he bikes, or even swims in the Ohio River as part of his commute. A few years ago, he very nearly set a FKT on the Appalachian Trail. A documentary about his journey, assisted by his dad, is “Like Harvey, Like Son.”

He’s an astonishing athlete. I came to know him when we were both pacing multiple marathons per year on the Clif Bar Pace Team. And he would pace the 3:05 group, that’s his caliber of running.

Go Harvey!

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [satanellus] [ In reply to ]
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Phil Gore finished yard 100 in 58:45 looking really rough and got minimal aid before starting 101. He may be nearing his end...
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [SharonMcN] [ In reply to ]
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It's still hard to pick a likely winner, but sadly Phil Gore (Aus) is looking like the least likely candidate.

Phil's last two laps have been his slowest, only coming in with 75 seconds to spare for his 100th a few minutes ago. His first comment to his crew was "I need to lie down", but there appears only one way he's going to have that opportunity. He did start lap 101, but with a slow walk.

I'd love to see Phil better his 102 lap record from a couple of months ago, but even this hour is looking doubtful. :-(
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [SharonMcN] [ In reply to ]
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I, too, can't stop watching this race. I am simultaneously inspired by these amazing athletes and disgusted at myself for frequently cutting morning runs short because I've gotten, say, less than 7 hours of sleep the night before.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [satanellus] [ In reply to ]
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ANd Phil is out at 100, I have never felt so lazy in my life. Off to do my measly swim now..
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [Michael Bey] [ In reply to ]
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And then they're just 3.....
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Just like that, only 3 left. Might not be as long of a day as we thought

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [monty] [ In reply to ]
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And the Japanese guy was a DNC. Major bummer for the guy who just missed by a minute or less. Down to 3.

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [SharonMcN] [ In reply to ]
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The first two guys to finish 102 (with over 5 minutes to spare) asked “can we share the win?” which means they aren’t thinking about being last standing but rather being done. Fortunately Laz said no.

3 just started 103.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [Ijustrun] [ In reply to ]
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I don't know Laz's rules for Backyard... if the last two competitors start a lap and then "give up", do they share the win? Or does that mean no one wins? Do they even care? Not like there's $100k on the line for the winner.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [scenicRoute] [ In reply to ]
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I don't know Laz's rules for Backyard... if the last two competitors start a lap and then "give up", do they share the win? Or does that mean no one wins? Do they even care? Not like there's $100k on the line for the winner.

No. If there are two out there and one doesn't finish or turns around and comes back as a DNC (did not complete), the other guy must finish within the time to win.

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [scenicRoute] [ In reply to ]
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I don't know Laz's rules for Backyard... if the last two competitors start a lap and then "give up", do they share the win? Or does that mean no one wins? Do they even care? Not like there's $100k on the line for the winner.

There can be only one; no sharing. In past events when the last two have decided to stop together in a tie they are both considered DNF and there is no winner. Likewise if two or more start a yard and none complete they are all listed as DNF.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [Ijustrun] [ In reply to ]
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Jebus.

I just tuned in and see a guy looking into the camera and saying, "Send help to the two bridges. The Spanish guy is down."

Yeesh.

EDIT: I guess that wasn't current. Maybe that was lap 83.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [Ijustrun] [ In reply to ]
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Ijustrun wrote:
scenicRoute wrote:
I don't know Laz's rules for Backyard... if the last two competitors start a lap and then "give up", do they share the win? Or does that mean no one wins? Do they even care? Not like there's $100k on the line for the winner.

There can be only one; no sharing. In past events when the last two have decided to stop together in a tie they are both considered DNF and there is no winner. Likewise if two or more start a yard and none complete they are all listed as DNF.

This is correct

Laz's ball-breaking is the stuff of legend

I think when Maggie Guertl won, she and the other guy started together, but he turned around back to camp; she still needed to complete the loop to take the victory

I could be remembering that wrong, of course

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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And then were two….

Let food be thy medicine...
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
Ijustrun wrote:
scenicRoute wrote:
I don't know Laz's rules for Backyard... if the last two competitors start a lap and then "give up", do they share the win? Or does that mean no one wins? Do they even care? Not like there's $100k on the line for the winner.

There can be only one; no sharing. In past events when the last two have decided to stop together in a tie they are both considered DNF and there is no winner. Likewise if two or more start a yard and none complete they are all listed as DNF.

This is correct

Laz's ball-breaking is the stuff of legend

I think when Maggie Guertl won, she and the other guy started together, but he turned around back to camp; she still needed to complete the loop to take the victory

I could be remembering that wrong, of course

When Maggie won he came back over the hour cutoff. What’s fun is when two finish a yard and one decides they cannot continue. In order to win the last person still needs to go out alone and complete one more yard. :)

Aaaand we’re now down to the last two.
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And then there were two. Harvey is looking stronger.

The Polish guy, Bartosz Fudali, is out - heat.

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [ironclm] [ In reply to ]
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Harvey just took a tumble entering the trails. Chances of one of them getting hurt from a fall similar to Gore have to be really high now. Four more loops till they switch to the road? I think it's either over in the next few hours or we're going until one of them falls asleep on the side of the road at 2am...
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [scenicRoute] [ In reply to ]
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Sunset is just before 6PM. Will they switch them to road at 5PM or wait until 6PM?

ETA: It's 78F and 46% humidity (dew pt at 55) so it's a bit toasty.

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [ironclm] [ In reply to ]
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They switch to the road at 6pm Central time (local time)
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [scenicRoute] [ In reply to ]
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scenicRoute wrote:
They switch to the road at 6pm Central time (local time)

That last 30 minutes could get iffy then in the dusk.

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [ironclm] [ In reply to ]
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Dang work is getting in the way...it seems as if the last two finished a yard and started #105 - is that right?
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giorgitd wrote:
Dang work is getting in the way...it seems as if the last two finished a yard and started #105 - is that right?

Correct.

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [ironclm] [ In reply to ]
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I am going to hear the 'almost a new hour' whistles in my sleep!
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [scenicRoute] [ In reply to ]
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Bummer about the fall. Not Harvey’s first this event. He had blood on his bandana earlier today. But what’d I say about Harvey? He’s the Dream Big guy. Down to the final two at 106 hours of running.

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [SharonMcN] [ In reply to ]
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Back from my swim workout and some errands, saw 3rd drop and now the last 2 dueling it out like gladiators. And they are running fast still! getting 10+ minutes rest even sometimes, but man they are sleepy tired. It is as if being able to run is not going to be the final limiter, but just staying awake. It did motivate me to do a big swim today, got my arms really tired, but kept it going for the entire hour. Got in 4k in under the hour too!!!
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [monty] [ In reply to ]
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I'm just waking up in Australia. Lots of action while I was sleeping. It's been an epic race with strong field.

Ihor vs Harvey.

Part of me wants to see them push the record much higher, yet part of me feels guilty for wanting them to go endure more pain, fatigue and ugliness.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [monty] [ In reply to ]
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I just tuned in.

If I followed correctly Harvey just back in at 105-53-xx.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [satanellus] [ In reply to ]
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Harvey has the edge mentally, I think, but wow - a 1 minute nap? Ihor seems to be running on fumes. Both are amazing.

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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [BobAjobb] [ In reply to ]
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How far have they run at this point? Is it 106 laps x 4.1 miles per lap?
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [Lagoon] [ In reply to ]
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“Let me take a one minute nap” and the he goes for a 50 seconds break, comes back and says “oh yea, that was nice” WTF, he’s a hero to me already
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BobAjobb wrote:
I just tuned in.

If I followed correctly Harvey just back in at 105-53-xx.

Correct.

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Lagoon wrote:
How far have they run at this point? Is it 106 laps x 4.1 miles per lap?


106 x 4.1667 = 441.67 miles

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Michal_CH wrote:
“Let me take a one minute nap” and the he goes for a 50 seconds break, comes back and says “oh yea, that was nice” WTF, he’s a hero to me already

11pm here in Blighty. I'm about to go take a 450 minute nap !
Enjoy the rest of your day, folks.
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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [Lagoon] [ In reply to ]
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I'm on the TM at gym, and this came on when they started #107



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Re: Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra live from Bell Buckle [ironclm] [ In reply to ]
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On the ticker it says Ihor is Canadian, but I thought I heard one of his handlers saying something about Ukranian? And he has some sort of accent, but of course at this point it could be any language on the planet..

And I love those 1 minute naps, used to take them all the time on slow days in my lifeguard tower. Just close your eyes and count to about 40, amazingly it would help...Harvey is a machine, but also a gamer in that he is psyching out Ihor at ever meeting. I believe he gets him to finally just quit at some point, feeling that Harvey can go on forever...
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Ok that makes sense then as to the conversation I heard. Really thought Ihor was pulling the plug there, how cruel to run them by the finish line each loop!! The crowd would not let him quit though, but you could see Harvey's mind games working on him..How old is Harvey anyway, see some gray along the sides there..
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Harvey's 47

This shit will age you, fierce

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Ok that makes sense then as to the conversation I heard. Really thought Ihor was pulling the plug there, how cruel to run them by the finish line each loop!! The crowd would not let him quit though, but you could see Harvey's mind games working on him..How old is Harvey anyway, see some gray along the sides there..

Harvey is 47 and Ihor is 29.
Considering Harvey’s “oh yeah” after his nap and Ihor needing to be coaxed into continuing into the woods I’d say Harvey has the mental edge. At this point Laz says it’s almost all mental...
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“Let me take a one minute nap” and the he goes for a 50 seconds break, comes back and says “oh yea, that was nice” WTF, he’s a hero to me already

Totally - and I have been hooked on this race all week. Can't believe it is almost over!
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Also, Harvey has been a plant-based athlete for many years.

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Ihor: This is ridiculous.

He seems more lucid this lap.

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Laz's ball-breaking is the stuff of legend

Case in point - The Cheerleaders

"It really SUCKS to be on the road again!!!"
"Just quit NOW!!! Just quit NOW!!!"

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Ya maybe the road will suit Ihor better, he seems to have locked onto Harvey's pace and just sitting back behind for now. Does anyone know what was in the little fruit type plastic cups they were eating? Looked like cooked apples to me, but not sure what that was, some homemade concoction?

I really had though it would be done by now, but both seem game to keep this thing going into the dark now. The old record is well in the rear view mirror, so only the glory of being last loser is left.. Does anyone know if there is any prize$$ for this race, or decent prizes? Or just for glory? I did hear it is a qualifier for the Barkley marathons, another grind your soul into the ground race..

I've known about his race for quite sometime, but never tuned in. Have to say it is riveting for those 10 minutes each lap, and they could do so much more to promote this and make the production 10x as entertaining. But maybe that is the point and they dont want that kind of attention...I can respect that too..
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This could be it for Ihor, he is hiking on the road not looking like he will run again. Of course they have just under 15 minute miles they can do to stay in it, so a walk jog still gets him there if he can break out of the walking mode..
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Looks like its over - WOW, what a fantastic race and (early) congrats to Harvey! This has been fantastic watching!
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Ihor turned around after stopping to take a shoe off. All over assuming Harvey finishes the lap
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That’s assuming Harvey can run one more lap, or everyone is a DNF no? đź
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Question here on technicality, if both runners do not complete same lap, is that a tie? Or is it whoever goes the farthest, or fastest in not making it? Would think it would be a tie, but really dont know the particulars..
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monty wrote:
Question here on technicality, if both runners do not complete same lap, is that a tie? Or is it whoever goes the farthest, or fastest in not making it? Would think it would be a tie, but really dont know the particulars..

No ties. If neither completes the lap they both DNF. To win you have to complete one more lap than the other person.
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It was mentioned awhile back in the thread that if both end on the same loop they are both considered DNF.
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Ya maybe the road will suit Ihor better, he seems to have locked onto Harvey's pace and just sitting back behind for now. Does anyone know what was in the little fruit type plastic cups they were eating? Looked like cooked apples to me, but not sure what that was, some homemade concoction?

I really had though it would be done by now, but both seem game to keep this thing going into the dark now. The old record is well in the rear view mirror, so only the glory of being last loser is left.. Does anyone know if there is any prize$$ for this race, or decent prizes? Or just for glory? I did hear it is a qualifier for the Barkley marathons, another grind your soul into the ground race..

I've known about his race for quite sometime, but never tuned in. Have to say it is riveting for those 10 minutes each lap, and they could do so much more to promote this and make the production 10x as entertaining. But maybe that is the point and they dont want that kind of attention...I can respect that too..

No prize money. The winner gets a nifty gold coin that says winner and everyone else gets silver that says DNF. (Actually this year the manufacturer made a mistake and the silver coins have a number for your placing)

Not a qualifier for Barkley.

As for attention, Laz always says the races are for the racers and getting widespread attention or making a big public spectacle isn’t the point.
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Thanks for the info, figured it was one of those races that wants to remain in the "backyard"..I would however like the between coverage to be a little more in depth and catch a few more.

And noticed not too many ladies, seems like this format would suit some of the top ultra runners? Or is it that they are chasing bigger events, ones with more prestige and $$?
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Correcting myself; I’m guessing that’s why 2nd returned to camp. They don’t get lap 108 and Harvey does, so he doesn’t have to go one more??
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And how crazy would it be if Harvey is sprinting for 1;07;59.59!!! Now that would be a great documentary movie finish...
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The drone shot of the camp all lit up in the middle of nowhere is very cool

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108 yards = 450 miles, on the nose

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RandMart wrote:
The drone shot of the camp all lit up in the middle of nowhere is very cool

Only 52 miles from my house. It's right near Tennessee Walking Horse country. Bell Buckle also has a 10 mile race and a Moon Pie festival in the summer.

Harvey is a machine! 450 miles is amazing.

And Ihor was so gracious to everyone. Hope they upload to Strava. Ihor's is: https://www.strava.com/athletes/33679522

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Curious was Laz an Ultrarunner? Or did he just create Barkley’s and find crazy people to run it?
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It’s Harvey Lewis, with 108 yards (aka laps) winner and new World’s Record.

Lazarus Lake: “It’s amazing what your mind can make your body do.”
Harvey Lewis: “Sleep is overrated,” just kidding. Says he didn’t get any sleep until yesterday, Day 3 of the race.
Laz: “We counted you out at 30 hours. Figured you were least likely to win.”

Then, “Harvey’s still there and he doesn’t look like he’s going to quit. You can’t pick the winner, they have to pick themselves. Thank goodness you didn’t take another four and a half days.”



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What a guy. Absolutely awesome and a great finish line conversation.
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I find it amazing Ihor and Harvey can hang around at the finish, remain coherent, bodies not rapidly shutting down/shivers, etc. They're still in their race kits - no layers, no blankets. No dropping over into immediate semi- consciousness. Crazy!

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108 yards = 450 miles, on the nose
randmart, can you explain the 100yards reference please? if it's too much i can look it up

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guessing yards = backyards??
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You run around bigs backyard. Each lap it a “yard” and about 4 miles

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I could have listened to Harvey tell stories all night! What a race.
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A “yard” is a 4.1-Mile lap.

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For those unfamiliar with the format, you run 1 lap (a "yard" in this case) in an hour. Whatever time is left between when you finish and when the hour elapses is yours to enjoy as you see fit (sleep, eat, change shoes). There are variations on how long a lap is, but generally around 4 miles. There is one of these events in England that takes place in an abandoned railway tunnel, so the whole thing is in the dark. If you do not start when the bell rings at the top of the hour, you're out. As has been noted, there is only one winner, everyone else is considered to have not finished the race.
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Laz's backyard format, which has been duplicated in events all over the world is specifically a 4.1667 mile loop. It's based on runners completing 100 miles in 24 hours.

Hence Harvey's winning performance was a tidy 450 miles or 108 laps completed in 108 hours (4.5 days).

Similar time-based distance challenges have been around since Scotsman Captain Barclay won a considerable wager to walk a mile each hour for 1000 hours, way back in 1809.

Last person I recall to take on the Barclay Challenge increased the record to 3.3km/hour.

If you've got a spare 6 weeks and aren't adverse to a little sleep deprivation, there's a holiday for you.
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LacticacidMCB wrote:
Curious was Laz an Ultrarunner? Or did he just create Barkley’s and find crazy people to run it?

Interesting article about Laz (whose real name is Gary)
https://www.outsideonline.com/...athons-lazarus-lake/
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monty wrote:
Thanks for the info, figured it was one of those races that wants to remain in the "backyard"..I would however like the between coverage to be a little more in depth and catch a few more.

And noticed not too many ladies, seems like this format would suit some of the top ultra runners? Or is it that they are chasing bigger events, ones with more prestige and $$?

During the first day they had more stuff to fill the hour. I think they eventually ran out of content and just showed the fixed cameras and covered runners as they dropped out.

As to the mix of runners. This event has an interesting qualifying criteria of national championships and an “at large” list of the top runners in the world. Laz takes the stance that there is one field and anyone can win regardless of gender so that does not in any way factor into qualifying. And there are only 75 slots for the entire world. I don’t think any backyard events offer monetary prizes and it’s still very niche within the larger world of ultrarunning and you have to pick the right event with other equally elite runners to get a result with enough laps to go high on the at-large list. I’d say your thought that the top women are going after more lucrative events is certainly a part of it along with the small field size and difficulty in qualifying.
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Laz's backyard format, which has been duplicated in events all over the world is specifically a 4.1667 mile loop. It's based on runners completing 100 miles in 24 hours.

Hence Harvey's winning performance was a tidy 450 miles or 108 laps completed in 108 hours (4.5 days).

Similar time-based distance challenges have been around since Scotsman Captain Barclay won a considerable wager to walk a mile each hour for 1000 hours, way back in 1809.

Last person I recall to take on the Barclay Challenge increased the record to 3.3km/hour.

If you've got a spare 6 weeks and aren't adverse to a little sleep deprivation, there's a holiday for you.

It is such a wierd speed to ask people to run at. It is slightly faster than brisk walking or really insanely slow running. So it seems to be more about sleep deprivation than fitness in the end. Would be more fun if it had a bit higher speed req. tbh.
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lassekk wrote:
satanellus wrote:
Laz's backyard format, which has been duplicated in events all over the world is specifically a 4.1667 mile loop. It's based on runners completing 100 miles in 24 hours.

Hence Harvey's winning performance was a tidy 450 miles or 108 laps completed in 108 hours (4.5 days).

Similar time-based distance challenges have been around since Scotsman Captain Barclay won a considerable wager to walk a mile each hour for 1000 hours, way back in 1809.

Last person I recall to take on the Barclay Challenge increased the record to 3.3km/hour.

If you've got a spare 6 weeks and aren't adverse to a little sleep deprivation, there's a holiday for you.

It is such a wierd speed to ask people to run at. It is slightly faster than brisk walking or really insanely slow running. So it seems to be more about sleep deprivation than fitness in the end. Would be more fun if it had a bit higher speed req. tbh.

No one is asked to run at any pace. All runners are free to run a little faster and rest more. Or walk more and have less rest.

That's part of the challenge, to budget your energy expenditure and manage rest, feeding, clothing, foot care and everything else necessary in multi day ultra, but have it all specifically done so in hourly increments.

Consistency and organisation are critical in this event. You don't have the flexibility you would in a normal multi day ultra. Both runner and their crew have to be on top of the game every hour.

It's a simple concept, but it's fiendishly demanding.

It also really tests runners psychologically. When you're struggling in a long ultra, there's always the respite of the finish to drive you forward. It may be 30 or 50 miles away or a set number of hours away, but there is the lure of a tangible fixed goal.

Backyard races challenge the exhausted runner every hour. There's the constant awareness that the finish is right there with you, you physically feel it's comfort every hour, albeit briefly and seductively. And every hour you must turn your back on it, until it's no longer possible.
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monty wrote:
guessing yards = backyards??

Yes, 1 yard=1 4.167 mile lap

Let food be thy medicine...
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lassekk wrote:
Would be more fun if it had a bit higher speed req. tbh.

Fun for who/whom, exactly? LOL

You're more than welcome to try it; on your own, of course

How would you word the requirement?

"One loop every hour, on the hour, but you have to be back at camp by quarter of to continue" maybe?

So, a mandatory 15-minute time out, effectively

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Ijustrun wrote:
LacticacidMCB wrote:
Curious was Laz an Ultrarunner? Or did he just create Barkley’s and find crazy people to run it?

Interesting article about Laz (whose real name is Gary)
https://www.outsideonline.com/...athons-lazarus-lake/

Thanks that was a good read.
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just watched this yesterday and it was epic beyond.

That is one helluva crazy event.
wow

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He also puts on a multi day race over Labor Day weekend in a park south of Nashville.

https://runsignup.com/...ster/ARacefortheAges

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He also puts on a multi day race over Labor Day weekend in a park south of Nashville.

https://runsignup.com/...ster/ARacefortheAges

Yet another innovative race concept from Laz.

I like the tradition of competitors over 60 receiving a coveted "Geezer" hat. As I approach eligibility, those Geezer hats become increasingly desirable.

All runners 41 and over will be allotted a number of hours equal to those hard-earned years of age in which to accumulate as many miles as possible. All the kids, 40 years, and below, will compete over the final 40 hours of the race. The winner will be the runner with the most miles accumulated by the finish.


In contrast to most ultras, where the old guys must settle for a place at the rear, if they can make the time limit at all, the ARFTA is dominated by the super veterans of the sport. In 2019, 34 participants 70 years old and over completed over 100 miles and 1 participant ,74 years old completed 230 miles! This is one race where the older guys are right in the running up until the very end. The footspeed may have diminished with the passing of the years, but the fires of competition still burn bright.
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I've been to a couple of backyard ultras, though not as a competitor.

On the first occasion, I crewed for a couple of friends, one of which pushed through to complete his first 100 miles. I then stayed on to assist the race director with whatever was required. For the other event, I flew in from interstate to volunteer from the initial event set up to post-race pack up.

If there's one of these races close to you and have a bit time, I'd highly recommend getting involved in some capacity. It's a tremendous insight into the capability and durability of the human body and psyche.

I occasionally consider the prospect of signing up for a backyard event, but I retired from the long ultras a good decade ago. There was good reasons for that decision, but when I spend a few days hanging out with ultra runners, I have to slap myself and remind myself why I quit.

Hanging out with that crowd is so damn fun and motivating.
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Laz's reflections on the final hours of Big Dog's:

(1) Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra Run Group | hours 103-108 | Facebook
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I've not crewed one, but I did do a 6-hour loop race once (they also had a 12-hour). It was a lot of fun. Laz's race is close to me. I'll have to check it out next year.

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What a great event. I had read and watched videos about it before, but it wasn't until seeing the live feed over the last few hours of the race that I was 100% hooked.

A few days after it was over I started thinking about what a "Backyard triathlon" might look like. My first thought was to do a super short tri every hour, but I think that would get really old really fast. Doing one leg of a triathlon each hour seems better - something like Hour 1 swim a mile, Hour 2 bike 10 miles, Hour 3 run 4 miles, repeat repeat repeat.

What do you all think of this? How many "yards" would you be able to do? What do you think the top deca ultrtriathletes could do?
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The inherent danger of swimming and biking while sleep deprived feels like a bad idea.

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RandMart wrote:
lassekk wrote:
Would be more fun if it had a bit higher speed req. tbh.


Fun for who/whom, exactly? LOL

You're more than welcome to try it; on your own, of course

How would you word the requirement?

"One loop every hour, on the hour, but you have to be back at camp by quarter of to continue" maybe?

So, a mandatory 15-minute time out, effectively


This Mad hatter hourglass is good if you want more speed. You will start with 30 minutes on the clock and in this time you will complete 2 miles. Each consecutive lap will reduce by 1 minute, so you'll have 29 minutes to complete the next lap and so on.
https://www.madhattersportsevents.co.uk/hourglass


Video from when GTN did it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJNkV42vUpo


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Similar time-based distance challenges have been around since Scotsman Captain Barclay won a considerable wager to walk a mile each hour for 1000 hours, way back in 1809.

Last person I recall to take on the Barclay Challenge increased the record to 3.3km/hour.

If you've got a spare 6 weeks and aren't adverse to a little sleep deprivation, there's a holiday for you.

There's a local 72-48-24hr "fun run" on a 1.091mi loop of trail put on by a friend of mine (I ran the 72hr in 2021, the 24hr in 2022, and the 48hr just over 3 weeks ago). Now that I've given all the distances a go, I'm planning to volunteer for the full 72hrs in 2024 (while running some laps along the way, and pacing people as needed)...but I have an idea to register for 72hrs at some point in the future to do 1 lap at the top of each hour, and see how long I can sustain that. If I could pull off the full 3 days it would be ~78.5mi of running, which isn't really that tough, until you pile sleep deprivation and potentially hypothermia on top since the race is mid-October and base camp is a wide open, windy field that always gets rained on. Still, I'm dumb enough to try it eventually >^.^<

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I agree, but there are a number of ultradistance swim and bike events that have a good success rate despite sleep deprivation. There are probably some things that can be done to mitigate (but not eliminate), such as a pool or shallow water swim and pacers/safety partners after a certain point in the race.

Maybe this idea would work better for a set time (e.g., 12 or 24 hours) and could be focused on completion and/or fastest cumulative time for each yard's completion.
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https://www.mammothendurance.com/washington-island-ultra

These guys have done a “how many sprint tris can you complete in x time” race for a few years, 8/12/24 hours, no swimming after dark for safety, and you can do the sports in any order (swim a bunch in the day, broken up with bikes, run through the night, or just go swim/bike/run over and over, etc). They count however many complete sets of 3 you match up.

It always sells out before I can make up my mind to do it 🙂
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Still, I'm dumb enough to try it eventually >^.^<

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These two things work well together

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D'Kid and her friends were discussing NYC Marathon, IRT "you have to PAY to run? how much?" When I told them "More than your average concert ticket" they recoiled in horror

Of course, I list them know that - I they were interested in such nonsense - they are plenty of fine 26.2 mile runs available in our area, and there is ALWAYS the option of creating their own, using the Screaming Tortise Athletic Club model

Heaven forbid that I share with them that the "entry fee" to The Barkleys is $1.70 and an essay to get in, and a license plate upon check-in (if selected ... "We're sorry to inform you; you're IN")

I offered a Beer Mile as an alternative

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Lazarus Lake inducted into American UltraRunning HOF

https://ultrarunninghistory.com/...-fame/gary-cantrell/

In HOF terms, he's be analogous to Clive Davis, Ahmet Etregun, George Martin or Miles Copeland* in the RnR HOF, as a creator of legendary content, though not the actual performer




* NOT in RnR HOF, which is another fucking disgrace by them

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