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2014 Kona Race Report M35 - 39 REALLY LONG
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GENERAL

I am a Kona Rookie. I have done 3 IMs, all on the less challenging IMFL course (I can’t call a 140.6 race “easy,” but Florida is a fast course and Kona is not). I qualified for Kona by having the absolute best race I possibly could have had at IMFL 2013 and then being as lucky as possible. I needed to pass a guy at mile 24 and then get 2 roll downs just to make it on a 9:23 in M35 – 39. I write that to point out that I was probably one of the slowest AG qualifiers in M35 – 39.

I had a tremendous training block for Kona, I put in an excess of 200 miles per month running for July, August, and September, and over 40 hours per month on the bike in each of them as well. I hit CTL records for running and riding and set an FTP record on a 40k TT in September, earlier in the year I PR’d the 5k and the 1 mile. I trained in the New Orleans heat and humidity all summer long. I reached Kona at the lowest weight that I have ever raced long course (136 pounds on race morning). I was as prepared as I could be. The only stone that I left unturned was hill running. I just couldn’t work much of that in given my location and other restrictions.

RACE WEEK

We arrived at Kona over a week in advance. I wanted to have some family time to acclimate to the Island with the Ironwife and the Ironbaby. We had some typical and some atypical travel tribulations, but after a few days, everything was settled and we were enjoying the atmosphere. I did the practice swim off the pier in a predictable 1:06 (which is right where I thought I would race) and I ran the energy lab in the heat of the day and rode the first and last 30 miles of the bike course several times during the week. I did the underwear run, the Path 10k and the pre-race banquet.

What strikes me about Kona (as a wide eyed rookie) is how you are treated as an athlete. Everyone is treated like a pro. Packet pickup is overstaffed and moves very efficiently, when you go to bike drop, you have a person dedicated to you that gets all your gear setup. When you are walking in with your drop bags and your bike, there are people asking you all sorts of questions about your gear and your training and giving you t-shirts and hats and other stuff. Everything is organized, everyone gets how important this is to you, nothing is left to chance. I loved every second of the experience.

RACE MORNING

Up at 3:00 am, usual breakfast of PBJs at around 3:50 and plenty of pre race fluids. I am dressed and ready and on my way down to transition for its opening at 4:45.

Again I am stricken by how professional this race is. We are directed to an athlete only entrance to transition, volunteers pull our number tattoos and triple check everything to make sure we get the right numbers, then they apply them just perfectly (mine last way longer this time than when I apply them myself).

Then we go through medical where they weigh and log each of us in case we need assistance later in the day and then we are finally into Transition. I go get my bike ready and I am back out of transition to meet with the family, take pictures, and say those final emotional good byes. This is always one of my favorite moments of Ironman. Kissing my wife, and walking to the start knowing that we got there together and that she is behind me the whole way (more on that later for sure).

SWIM

Before I got to the island, I thought I would swim between 1:05 and 1:07 based on my pool work and my past three wetsuit legal IM swims of 1:01, 1:02 and 1:04. I did the practice swim in 1:06 and I figured I would do about the same on this day. I can swim faster, but with training hours limited, I have chosen to give up some swim speed and also take it very easy during the race to be fresh for bike and run.

I lined up way left (the slow side) and was a couple of people back. The plan was to take the whole 1.2 miles of the swim to vector myself toward the turn and avoid as much contact as possible. In general, this swim is the easiest swim I have ever done. You can see everyone all the time, sure there is contact, but nothing that is a surprise. In other open water swims, I feel like I am cruising along and then suddenly get punched in the face, here you totally see the other bodies and can make adjustments to avoid it.

So the cannon fires and we are off. There are some swells, but I am comfortably cruising along (I am told later that the conditions were rough for Kona, but I was good). I just kept cruising and generally trending toward the buoys and following feet and bubbles. Eventually I decide to take a look up and sight and I am about 100 yards from the turn boat. Perfect first half hour of the race!

I make the turn, some contact picks up, I see a scuba diver from NBC videoing us from below (how cool is that) and we make the other turn and we are headed home. There is more contact on the way in and the second half seems to drag out some. If I had to guess I would say that it took longer than the first half, but soon I can hear Mike Reilly on the pier and we are at the steps and running towards our bags.

Swim time 1:06 as predicted.

T1

I grab my bag no problem, I dump my swim skin, throw on the De Soto Short Sleeve Riviera Jersey and I am gone. On the way to the bike, I roll on my De Soto arm coolers. I put my helmet on at the bike and I am off.

T1 was about a minute slower than I thought it would be (4 versus 3). That was a total guess though, so not a big deal.

BIKE

First part of the bike is a bit technical, plenty of turns and up hills and down hills for the first 10 miles. I get through all that safely and then settle in for the 100 plus miles out to Hawi and back. Until about mile 30 I was thinking “what’s that big deal, this is pretty cool, hitting my watts, averaging 21.6 mph and getting faster all the time, I might go around 5 hours.”

Then the head winds hit like a sledge hammer. Before long the average speed was down into the 18 range. That didn’t concern me, I was riding my watts (between 165 and 175 for NP and AP). I had done plenty of long rides and previous Ironmans in this range. It was conservative, I would be able to run strong off the bike in this range, winds and hills be damned.

We keep on riding into the winds, eventually we start into some climbs and then some crazy descents (heading downhill at 35 plus and cross winds trying to blow you off the road). We are all riding leaning heavily into the wind to the point that if the wind suddenly stopped, we would certainly fall over. I was riding a FLO90 rear and a FLO60 front. If I do this again, I will give some consideration to riding a FLO30 front. It might be a tad slower, but I surely would like to not worry about landing in the lava field or going over a guard rail.

I would later be told that the wind on this day was as bad as any of the veteran riders would remember. Somewhere around mile 70 or 75, I began to lose my nerve on the descents and I start riding the bull horns down. I figured I was lucky enough to make it safely this far, no need to risk it at this point.

My average speed is around 20.5 or so, so I have a good shot at going sub 5:30 still. We catch an amazing tail wind for about 5 minutes. This tail wind is so strong that I am on the flats and am spinning out 53 x 11. It was crazy. Then it stopped and it was back to the same.

Nutrition was spot on, I was well hydrated, had peed a few times, I was taking in my cals (350 to 400 per hour) and stomaching everything. I was on track to nail this thing.

Around mile 90 something happened, I did something wrong shifting chain rings and dropped my chain or maybe my FD came loose and out of alignment. I won’t ever know exactly what the cause/effect was, but for the next 8 miles, something is screwed up. The chain is skipping from cog to cog, I can’t reliably shift from big to small ring. I have a chain catcher, but the chain is still jumping off and under it at some times. At mile 98 it really goes to hell.

The chain drops and become so stuck there is nothing I can do about it. I am stopped standing on the pavement. I tell every official vehicle that I see that I need tech support. My mind is racing trying to figure out what to do next. The Ironman World Championship is passing me by.

I do all my own bike work, I have literally never had any kind of issue at a race when I have done detailed pre race checks ahead of time. I rode this bike with this exact configuration for hundreds of miles before I left, I rode for over 100 on the Island, I rode for nearly 100 today, everything was silky perfect. How the hell could this happen now!

I decide that no matter what tech support is doing, it will be better for them to find me closer to T2 than further away. I take off my bike shoes and I start walking. After a while, who knows how long, my feet are burnt to a crisp from the asphalt. I put the bike shoes on and keep walking. All this was uphill, I like to think that if I had made the crest, I would have been smart enough to free wheel down, but I am not sure I was that with it at the time.

I was not going to quit this race. I spent these long minutes thinking about my wife and all that she has endured to get me to this start line. I knew she would be worried, I knew she would be inside my head knowing the despair that I was experiencing. I knew that she was somewhere reading the athlete tracker and thinking something is wrong, probably thinking I crashed.

At this point, the scooter shows up and I beg the guy to get this thing fixed enough to get me back to T2, I would not quit this race. He starts working on it and he can’t get the chain unstuck. He actually has to pull the cranks. Once he frees the chain he discovers that it is somehow twisted. He untwists it. Then he says the rear derailleur hanger is bent. How the hell did that happen? This thing ran like silk for weeks before I left, all week in Hawaii, and for 100 miles today!

I borrow his phone (probably against a rule but who gives a damn at this point), I try to reach my wife to tell her I am standing on the side of the road and not laying on it. I can’t get her, but I leave her a message and I feel better knowing that at least she will know I am OK.

While he is working, I ask him what the hell went wrong. He tells me that 1 thing happened (he didn’t know what it was) and that all the other damage was a chain (no pun intended) reaction to the first issue and then to me trying to keep it going. My best guess, I dropped the chain and while trying to get it back on, I put too much force into something and screwed everything else up (twisted chain, FD out of alignment, RD screwed up, etc).

He bends the RD some and then tells me the FD is screwy and says the best bet is for him to give me 1 chain ring and for me to limp back that way. I figure I should take the small ring to save whatever my legs have left in them. He gives me the small chain ring and I am off again.

I am passing people left and right, average speed is down to 18.5 miles per hour but I am zipping past people on the uphills, on the downhills I am spinning out because I have no big ring. I do some quick math and realize that I will be in with around a 6 hour split! TERRIBLE for my level of fitness and preparation.

I coast into T2 angry as hell. My mental game is toast. All kind of things are rushing through my head. Chief among them is some version of: your race is shot, maybe you should coast on the run and enjoy this thing instead of killing yourself to a crappy finish anyway. I never thought of quitting, but I thought of coasting.

T2

I walk the circuit around the pier trying to drag my feet on the carpet to get whatever chunks of asphalt and such off of them. I get my bag and enter the changing tent and sit. I grab a towel and a bucket of Vaseline and I get to work on my feet. I get them cleaned off and put Vaseline all over the balls of my feet, all inside my socks, and then inside my shoes. I am hoping that this will allow me to run to my fitness and not have my feet be the limiter.

In my head, I know that I have supporters out on that course and at home and I know that they are experiencing this disappointment with me. I also know what my wife was thinking right now. She was thinking: “I know he won’t quit, but I sure hope he still crushes this run.”

I thought about her and how much she sacrificed to get me here, I walked toward the timing mat and made a decision. The sulking and moaning stops when I hit that mat and I will salvage this race the second I step across that mat. Too many people have given too much for me to be a baby over some stuff that I can’t change now.

T2 should have been a 3 minute affair, with all that happened, I take 8 minutes.

RUN

I didn’t know what to target for this run. It is hilly, I know nothing about hill running. It is hot, I run plenty in the heat, but never an Ironman. In moderate temps and flat terrain, I have run 7:50s for an IM Marathon, but today I decided to be conservative and target 8:20s until at least mile 18.

I get running and the legs feel great (why shouldn’t they, they had a heck of a rest) and I am keeping the pace below 8:20 without much trouble. As I exit transition, I see my sister briefly, I throw up my hands as if to apologize and she says something like just keep moving.

I come through mile one and the Ironwife and the Ironbaby are there near our condo. For the first time ever in a race, I stop for a few seconds, I hold the baby’s hand and kiss my wife’s cheek. I say “I am sorry” she says “we are proud of you” and I am back to moving.

I knew what she meant. She wasn’t proud that we were in Kona, or that I am an Ironman, or anything else. She was proud that I was still working hard to close this book despite having things not go my way. It was the perfect thing to say to me, it was exactly what I needed, things begin to turn around for me.

It feels like most of the first 5 miles is a net downhill because when I turn around, the pace starts to fall some even though the effort is about the same.

I see the family again between mile 9 and 10 and I am starting to feel like myself again. I come through mile 10 and I see two helicopters flying low overhead. Mile 10 is back near the finish line, so I have two thoughts. The first is that the male or female winner is about to finish, the second is: How cool is it that I am in a race where we have been followed around all day on course by multiple aircraft!

I actually wave to the helicopters, my spirits are coming back, my attitude is improving and I am starting to enjoy this race like I should.

I make the turn up Palani (steepest part of the course) and get ready to really work for the hardest part of this race: the last 16 miles on the Queen K and through the Natural Energy Lab.

I am passing people left and right, my legs feel strong, I have some core pains, but nothing I can’t manage. My feet hurt, but it feels like things are going to hold together indefinitely. My average pace with all the hills has fallen to about 8:30 or so, but I am happy given all the undulating hills along the Queen K. It is hot and humid, but it is overcast so it could be worse. My nutrition is good, I have gotten in all my calories, and I started the run hydrated and have continued drinking.

Around mile 12, I catch up to the other New Orleanian in this race, Barry Edwards. Barry and I race together all the time back home, he usually crushes me at stuff shorter than 70.3 and I usually prevail at the longer stuff.

Barry does me the huge favor of sticking with me from roughly mile 12 through probably mile 23 or so. We talk, we strategize, he gets my head back in the game some, and we encourage each other to keep it moving after we pass through the aid stations.

Before you know it, we are through the turn around and heading back out of the Natural Energy Lab. At this point, I have the highlight of my race. The Ironwife had the Ironbaby made a video that was triggered by a loop detector at mile 18 (I think this was sponsored by Newton, great idea guys). I cross that mat and then on a huge video board is a feed of my one year old son waving to me. I was going to finish this race strong, they had sacrificed too much for me to waste a bit of this opportunity.

The next 5 miles are hard but Barry and I get through them and the pace is holding around 8:33 or so. At amount 22 I do some math and realize that I have blown 11 hours already. Not a huge deal, now I will work to finish in the day light.

Around mile 23 or so, Barry can’t hold it any longer and he tells me to press on. I take it from there. I crest the hill at the top of Palani at around Mile 25 and I suffer all the way down to the turn onto Kuakini. Those down hills after 140 miles are nasty.

I look for my sister at Kuakani and Hualalei, she has my finish line flag. I grab the flag from her and there is half mile to go. I have my finishing flag stretched proudly across my chest. It says THANK YOU to my wife and son for giving me this year to be ready for this race. I check in front of me and behind me. I am going to time this so I get a few seconds to myself on that finish line. I go slow enough to not catch the guy in front of me and fast enough to keep the two dudes behind me from catching up.

I cross the line, Mike Reilly reads the sign over the PA (couldn’t have planned it better than that) and he tells me that I am an Ironman and a volunteer catches me and brings me to the back. It is done.

IDEAL DAY GOAL: 10:00

BAD DAY GOAL: 10:45

ACTUAL TIME: 11:05



AFTERMATH

I had the usual 15 or 20 minutes post IM. I was wandering around in a haze, getting anything down my throat that I could, water, chocolate milk, pizza, whatever. I was not in great shape and was fearing passing out but medical didn’t think I was bad enough to enter their tent, so I had a goal to find my wife in case I fell over at least someone would keep an eye out for me.

We got reunited and the whole support crew took pictures and celebrated. I knew that eventually I would be unhappy about how things went, but for now, I had done Kona, my time was respectable, my effort was 100%, and I was healthy at the finish line. That was enough.

In the days that have followed, I have vacillated greatly on my feelings toward the race and on my future plans in general. One day I say that I never need to go back to Kona. I feel “I have done it, it wasn’t perfect but I proved to myself that I could handle the heat, humidity, hills, wind, etc.” Hours later I feel that twinge that says “you left so much time on that course. Even if you didn’t have the mechanical, you could do so much better just from knowing the course and the race on your next attempt.”

I may never again qualify for Kona, my wife and I have decided that doing Ironman is something that we can sustain for a while longer, but it will have to come at a greatly reduced training volume.

With less training time, I will be a better husband and father and I will probably race a little slower, but I will be very excited to remain in the race in some fashion.

If the stars line up ever again and I get another shot at Kona, I will take it. That race (the excitement, the support, the conditions, the level of talent present) has probably spoiled many other races for quite some time.

GRATITUDE

I want to thank the Slowtwitch community for getting me into Kona and for getting me through it. 5 years ago, I didn’t own a bike, 6 years ago, I had never run a 5k. Everything that I needed to learn to Qualify and Race at the World Championship of Ironman was gained through this site.

I became a runner (thanks BarryP), I became an aero weenie (thanks JackMott), I learned how to get into a super-fast sustainable position on the bike, I learned about nutrition, power, pacing, race weight and so much more.

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Re: 2014 Kona Race Report M35 - 39 REALLY LONG [bufit323] [ In reply to ]
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Hey man, I've been something of a fan of yours since your IMFL race report last year and I was wondering what happened to you on the bike in Kona. Glad it was a mechanical and not a crash! Another great write-up here...best of luck next season!
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Re: 2014 Kona Race Report M35 - 39 REALLY LONG [bufit323] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you for sharing your experience. I read the whole thing, and it was worth it. I know you didn't feel you accomplished your goal, but congratulations nonetheless for persevering.
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Re: 2014 Kona Race Report M35 - 39 REALLY LONG [jw76] [ In reply to ]
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jw76 wrote:
Hey man, I've been something of a fan of yours since your IMFL race report last year and I was wondering what happened to you on the bike in Kona. Glad it was a mechanical and not a crash! Another great write-up here...best of luck next season!

I didn't know I had fans! Thanks so much for following, I hope I didn't disappoint. What I keep telling myself is: better to have had this issue at Kona, if you had it at IMFL, you never would have even qualified!

I would like to have included some quality data in the report, but I literally have not downloaded the 910 yet. I just don't want to see it. I will get over that soon enough I guess.

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Re: 2014 Kona Race Report M35 - 39 REALLY LONG [surroundhound] [ In reply to ]
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surroundhound wrote:
I know you didn't feel you accomplished your goal, but congratulations nonetheless for persevering.

I have some moments of good perspective where I know that I had an awesome experience and a great trip and that no one on earth (other than me) really gives a damn if I did 10 hours or 11 hours.

then I have other moments of less perspective where I am pretty sure the sky is falling and that I wasted a chance I will never get again.

Some might say that I am a little unbalanced. Those that know me well would probably say that I am quite unbalanced!

Thanks for reading it. Writing it is probably good therapy!

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Awesomeness! What a way to tough out Kona even with the tough conditions and your bike issues.

I wondered how you did, after hearing you qualified at IMFL. Congrats on a tough race, a solid family and an epic story!
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Re: 2014 Kona Race Report M35 - 39 REALLY LONG [jw76] [ In reply to ]
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Great race report! I was watching most of the race online (from Hilo where I live). Pretty tough conditions this year.

Congrats on your well deserved finish. See ya next year. :)
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Re: 2014 Kona Race Report M35 - 39 REALLY LONG [bufit323] [ In reply to ]
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That's a great race report. You hung in there when the going got tough and finished in a fine time on a tough day.
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Re: 2014 Kona Race Report M35 - 39 REALLY LONG [kini62] [ In reply to ]
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kini62 wrote:
See ya next year. :)

Now that would be a real dream. I'll never say never though!

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Great read and amazing perseverance.

Inspiring not only from a racing perspective but as a family man as well. I don't think our support systems get enough credit for their sacrifices.
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congrats on hanging in there when everything was going wrong. Bizarrely I know someone else who had a very similar issue with his chain and chainring at kona.
I'm glad you didn't quit - you are now better of having experienced that run, and that tough day will make other future IMs seem easier in comparison. Most of all congrats on traveling to Kona with a baby - I did that once and it was much harder than actually doing the Ironman ;-)

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Re: 2014 Kona Race Report M35 - 39 REALLY LONG [bufit323] [ In reply to ]
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Great report, and I'm sorry you didn't get the result you trained for.

On the upside, you have an excellent real world example for the time when Ironbaby needs to learn about perseverance, commitment, goals, etc...

Years from now, how fast dad finished his race at the IM World Championships will mean little compared to how you dealt with adversity.

I'd say this day was far from a wasted chance.
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Most of all congrats on traveling to Kona with a baby - I did that once and it was much harder than actually doing the Ironman ;-)

AMEN, getting home was tough, getting to Kona may have been the hardest 24 hours of my life though.

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lakercr wrote:
On the upside, you have an excellent real world example for the time when Ironbaby needs to learn about perseverance, commitment, goals, etc....

Great point, another thing to put into my memory bank as a silver lining.

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Re: 2014 Kona Race Report M35 - 39 REALLY LONG [bufit323] [ In reply to ]
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First of all, big congrats on both the qual and you race day. It is always tough in Kona however, you cut it, however, I think that qualifying is harder than the race, in the sense, there is no stress at the Kona race...you can go as slow as you want and get to the finish line and I have found that with no competitive "stress" about who is passing or pulling ahead it is just nice to focus on the body.

Second thing, I love this observation:

What strikes me about Kona (as a wide eyed rookie) is how you are treated as an athlete. Everyone is treated like a pro.

There is something special about putting on that athlete bracelet in Kona. At other races, anyone can just sign up and get the bracelet. At Kona, everyone there went through the ringer to get the bracelet. It really feels special. There is nothing in my professional life that has given that same sense of "I did it" other than getting my grad degrees. The rest of the stuff in the corporate world is so dependent on other market whims, company leadership, team members etc etc. When you put the athlete bracelet on in Kona, YOU DID it...like the Pilot in the dogfight there is an entire team that puts the pilot in the air, but once the pilot is flying in the F-18 in the dog fight, he's on his own...similarly in your qual race, your entire personal team put you there, and then you're on your own.

So I just wanted to say congrats because that line in bold from your report is what all you guys who raced there deserve. Nothing less. Fore each of you on the pier bobbing around at 6:59 am on that Saturday in October, there are 1000 others who want to be there, but could not pull it off. Being treated like a pro is deserved.
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A nice read and some good perspective at the end. It's a terrific race…but it is just a race. :)

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Very well stated, thank you. I admit, cutting that bracelet off on Monday did suck a little bit.

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Bryancd wrote:
It's a terrific race…but it is just a race. :)

Really important to remember that, sometimes it is easy to lose sight of it.

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Awesome read! Thanks for sharing.
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You should be proud for persevering. Enjoyed your report and wishing you tons of success for the future!
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Very well stated, thank you. I admit, cutting that bracelet off on Monday did suck a little bit.

I think the Kona bracelet will come back on your wrist. I feel you have plenty of base. I suggest you just train like an Olympic triathlete next spring, and then put 3 weeks of IM training in and then come to Whistler at the end of July. At your weight, cycling ability and running ability, on that course you're going to easily punch a ticket to Kona. It will be no problem. I predict if you do that, you will do sub 10 in Kona (and Whistler too) and hope to see you put that bracelet back on in the near future. You have a few more years of base now than when you first made the build to IM Florida, so you don't need as much long stuff.

I really enjoyed reading about you pushing through. That's the spirit of Kona as Frodo was quick to point out too.
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Dev, thank you so much for the compliments. It means a lot coming from a person who knows what they're talking about.

I have never considered doing Whistler, I live in the Southeast US, so that is a very long trip. My first thought was to try Ironman Texas. It's a short drive, the conditions are hot and windy, and I now know I can handle that well. It doesn't sell out early so I could sign up now or soon, and next year they will have 75 slots.

Given all that do you think that Whistler is my best shot for another KQ? I know bohing about that race?

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Congrats on just finishing. It's special just to be there!



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bufit323 wrote:
Dev, thank you so much for the compliments. It means a lot coming from a person who knows what they're talking about.

I have never considered doing Whistler, I live in the Southeast US, so that is a very long trip. My first thought was to try Ironman Texas. It's a short drive, the conditions are hot and windy, and I now know I can handle that well. It doesn't sell out early so I could sign up now or soon, and next year they will have 75 slots.

Given all that do you think that Whistler is my best shot for another KQ? I know bohing about that race?

Whistler you can get to NO - Chicago - Vancouver and $70 shuttle from airport to the village where the race is. So yes, you have to take a flight, but your power to weight is an advantage on the course. Texas is also good for you....I think with 75 slots it attracts everyone who thinks they have a chance at a rolldown....sometimes 50 slot races that suit your strengths are a better shot than 75 slot races than attracts everyone who is within 20 min of a rolldown. Yes, there will be 3-4 more slots, but probably 10x the number of guys in that range gunning for those extra slots. The reason I suggested Whistler, is you can take a longer break from IM stuff and just focus on shorter training for a longer period before putting in a final push. Having said that, a final push in New Orleans area in July may not be that fun, so perhaps Texas is the way to go. We have to have fun doing this stuff.
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The current thinking is hard core rest until November. Then hang up goggles and bike for a January Marathon (maybe get into Boston 2016). Then feb I will let the run legs recover some and start hard on bike and some swim. Then March April train hard on reduced volume with higher intensities until closer to race. Hit big few weeks and then reduce down for Texas in May.

If I don't make it will Whistler be sold out? Might be able to take two swipes at the apple.

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Great race report. Thanks for posting. I respect your introspection, humility and family focus and being tough on what you expect of yourself is not a bad thing. Best of luck in your future goals.
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Whistler did not sell out last year. Currently I plan to be at both also!!! I don't turn off any sport at any time of year...I just reduce volume in all sports and I actually keep the intensity up in off season since my volume is low. It's fun to go hard and be rested for every workout!
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devashish_paul wrote:
It's fun to go hard and be rested for every workout!


I am looking forward to giving this a try. I have always had this nagging concern in the back of my brain that I train too long and as a result, too slow. I will be able to test it out!

If you don't mind, I will stay in touch, I may need some pointers on how to set this season up. I will PM you.

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Now you have a lot of base and can get plenty of fitness through intensity. If you don't believe it think of this for a second...Bradley Wiggins can be a 4000m pursuit gold medalist and a Tour de France winner. One race is 4 minutes, the other on 4-6 hours per day. Once you get much beyond 1 minute, everything else is from slow twitch, so you can get a lot of the way there working at a higher percent of your threshold. You may not accumulate as much TSS off an 8 hour training week in the off season as a 20 hour week, but you can make most of the physiological adaptation that you need off lower volume and high intensity and give back to your family and work. Then for a few weeks in the lead up, just jack up the hours. It is clear that your body is able to go for 9-11 hours so you don't need to rehearse that every week. Back in the day, Welch, Allan and crew all raced fast at short distance all summer and then spent late Aug and Sep on their Kona build. 6 weeks for a pro, 3 weeks for age groupers. Most recently, Gomez put the boots to all the IM guys at Tremblant. Not sure he could have done what he did to Kienle in Tremblant again in Kona with some more weeks of Kona specific prep, but the main point is that you can get really close to your personal potential on lower volume and higher intensity and then get race specific later. It's a better balanced life too. I think where guys go wrong (for the long term) is spend too many weeks per year on typical IM style training. I think you need to ration that out, especially on a multi IM year, if nothing else for your own personal sanity and health.
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I'd have to disagree with you Dev, it seems to me Kona is harder than qualifying for myself. I've crashed & burned each time in Kona (except for ONCE), this time with what I believe the 3rd worst result of my life of 25 IM's. The vomitting, walking, just not able to get cool enough, results in backwards movement through the pack on the bike before imploding & walking a ton, just like last weekend. I've done all the heat training & research tricks in the book & still implode from heat. I'm thinking I'm just genetically built for cooler races. Either way, heat is my nemisis & Kona is the ultimate source of heat. The qualifiers...not so much, unless it is an April IM Arizona or something!

Now to bufit323--big kudos to you on making it to the Big Dance. It was a LONG race report like you said, so I'll tag mine onto yours...

I raced...
I imploded in the heat (again)...
I finished.
I will not give up trying to master my personal Kona demons & will keep on truckin' as long as I have breath in my lungs!
Two years to work on fixing any issues before I attempt again...
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If you don't mind me asking, where did you KQ?

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Great job! Gutting it out like you did speaks volumes for your character and probably a key reason you earned the right to race Kona. Mental toughness so often takes a back seat to physical strength. You've gotta have both and you've proved it.

Best of luck to you and your family!
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I think it depends on your size and body fat percent. For smaller athletes, the Kona winds are tougher, but the heat is not that tough and since in Kona you don't have to race others and are just managing your own resources it is easier than a qualifier race where you are racing others in your age group too. Sure, Kona heat it slows small guys down, but less than big guys and once you get off Alii drive over Palani, the sun is less intense in the second part of the marathon. Now if you put a small athlete on a cold course like Norseman, it is another story
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I agree, heat wasn't something I noticed on a race day in Kona. If anything, I thought it was cooler/less humid than much of my training here in Louisiana. As noted, I am a little guy too (barely 5'7" and 136 on race day).

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I agree, heat wasn't something I noticed on a race day in Kona. If anything, I thought it was cooler/less humid than much of my training here in Louisiana. As noted, I am a little guy too (barely 5'7" and 136 on race day).

The more I think of it, make Texas your first shot. We get a "cool" day last year, and in my age group even with a 4:01 run I moved from 30th or so off the bike to 15th. Lots of guys slowing down on the run in Woodlands. There is around half a mile of shade per loop and the 95% concrete course also favours the lighter athlete somewhat. I am toying with the idea of IM Taiwan which should have similar (if not harder) dynamics vs Woodlands with more humidity and more hills and I have always wanted to explore the south of that island. The hard part is getting ready for an April 12th date...mid May is a lot easier. A lot of this depends on work and family obligations. Woodlands is an easy trip from here.
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Congrats on persevering. It was good meeting you at the practice swim!

I, too, sense that you'll be back in Kona. And as someone who just did their second Kona after a disappointing first Kona, I can tell you that having experience in that race is really, really valuable.

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Congrats on persevering. It was good meeting you at the practice swim!

I, too, sense that you'll be back in Kona. And as someone who just did their second Kona after a disappointing first Kona, I can tell you that having experience in that race is really, really valuable.

Great meeting you George. It sure is a small world out there. Hope to see you again at the buoy, same time, same place, next year!

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I am all in on what Dev is "preaching". You will "need" way less base from here forward IF you reduce volume in the off season but not eliminate it. So you've done 4 straight years of IM? That was sort of the magic time for when I really noticed big improvement. As I enter my 40's I have continued to improve with far less volume season to season. I vote for Texas for a lot of reasons, one of which is proximity and the other is your size. If it is back to hot and humid, your size is a huge weapon. Good luck and yeah, great write up!

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Same time, same place, but not next year. :) I'm going to take a few years off from Kona, although I still think I have a few more things I can do better in that race. We need to rebuild the reserves (financial, motivational) before making another big push, and I was satisfied with my race enough to tide me over for a few years. Plus, the twins will be 18 months next October. Flying two six-month-olds to Kona was one thing, but I think that 18-month-olds would be really tough.

For that last reason, I think that Texas is a better next option for you than Canada. I sense from your report that you (like me) couldn't race without taking your family with you. Canada would be much tougher logistics with your baby.

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So you've done 4 straight years of IM?

Yep, and the last two have been on what I would consider as an AGer to be very large volume. This last build was 20 hours per week for a few months (and that is a true 20 hours of Swim Bike Run, no BS time for driving to/from or anything like that).

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I sense from your report that you (like me) couldn't race without taking your family with you. Canada would be much tougher logistics with your baby.

One of the changes that I am trying to make in order to lessen my wife's burden with all this is that she is off the hook for races. If she would like to come, I want her there, but there won't be any expectation and certainly no guilt if she and the baby support from afar.

That said. Texas would probably be the easiest thing travel wise (even easier than driving the crew to IMFL). I think I could drive to the Woodlands alone with my car load of crap and my bike and then a few days later, she could hop a 1 hour flight with the baby and a diaper bag and nothing else and I could pick them up with all the excess baby stuff already in the car/hotel.

I really think that would be easier than loading up the family truckster with the three of us and driving to Panama City, and the flight thing really doesn't work at IMFL because of lack of a large airport in proximity.

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My 2 cents worth as someone who has been in this sport for a long time with family. Take your family to 1 IM race per year max. Frankly standing around for 10 hours tracking your athletes with screaming kids, in the sun with loud music and a zillion people to navigate around is not fun. I would suggest making your qualifier race no family where you focus on the business of qualifying and not family....just go in and out like a business trip. They can watch you online and to you there is no real difference the day of the race if they are on the side of the road or online. Qualifier race is no recreation, just business.

Take your family to a race that is more like a holiday, where the only day focused on you is race day (which is kind of impossible anyway, but you can try) and put their plans generally ahead of pre race workouts etc. My 2 cents.

My main point is families only have so much "endurance" to get through all this too. You don't want them to have to light up too many matches too often, because after that the match box is empty, and if it is, the athlete no longer gets to play this sport. I'm up to 27 IMs in 23 years. My family life is far from perfect (most would say it is out of whack with normal families, but it works for us), but I have seen lots of guys come and go burning out their families with this stuff and if the family is burnt out, there are no more IM start lines.

Having said that, Texas has a good set up for families and it is close to you, so you have to decide what is important for your family life.
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My 2 cents worth as someone who has been in this sport for a long time with family. Take your family to 1 IM race per year max. Frankly standing around for 10 hours tracking your athletes with screaming kids, in the sun with loud music and a zillion people to navigate around is not fun. I would suggest making your qualifier race no family where you focus on the business of qualifying and not family....just go in and out like a business trip. They can watch you online and to you there is no real difference the day of the race if they are on the side of the road or online. Qualifier race is no recreation, just business.

Take your family to a race that is more like a holiday, where the only day focused on you is race day (which is kind of impossible anyway, but you can try) and put their plans generally ahead of pre race workouts etc. My 2 cents.

My main point is families only have so much "endurance" to get through all this too. You don't want them to have to light up too many matches too often, because after that the match box is empty, and if it is, the athlete no longer gets to play this sport. I'm up to 27 IMs in 23 years. My family life is far from perfect (most would say it is out of whack with normal families, but it works for us), but I have seen lots of guys come and go burning out their families with this stuff and if the family is burnt out, there are no more IM start lines.

Having said that, Texas has a good set up for families and it is close to you, so you have to decide what is important for your family life.

That's good advice. I would only add that it depends on your family dynamic (which can change over time). Right now, I can say with confidence that my wife wants to be there when I do the big races, and I want to be there for hers. We're talking about my doing a marathon in February, and she's not really happy about the possibility of her not being there. As our twins get older, though, this may change. We'll see.

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Great write-up!

Have to admit I felt a tear welling up when you talked about all the support you've gotten from your wife. I just finished my last race of the year yesterday and I think of the extra stuff my wife has had to deal with so I could train and I'm blessed to have somebody like her in my corner, supporting me 100%.

I say that to say, make sure you tell her how much it means to you. Hope you crush it on your next trip to the island.


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Great race report...I was hoping to catch up with you soon but glad to hear the bike issue was just something mechanical. We were tracking you and Barry and I actually thought you guys were running together, which I thought was kind of funny. You and I share a certain affinity to speak like an angry sailor and inject an F word wherever possible, and it got me thinking of how Barry was handling that =).

I've been blessed to train and race with some great athletes down here and you're right up there at the top of the list. Not just how you race, but how you approach the sport and everything it encompasses. You understand you have to be balanced. Personal life, family life, your career but then find the time to train like hell so you can give each race the effort it deserves. Congrats again man, truly inspiring considering all you've been through the last couple years.
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Congrats! You should be very proud of your accomplishment, even more proud that you persevered thru some big raceday challenges. Also, thanks for the very well-written race report, one of the best I've read.
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I say that to say, make sure you tell her how much it means to you

My wife is a unique breed. I could give a million examples, here are my two recent favorites:

1 - when she saw me at the finish line flying this flag which thanked her for getting me to and through Kona, her first statement was "but you ruined your awesome Kona finisher photos with that thing."

2 - after we figured out how we are going to proceed with this training stuff. I thanked her for keeping me in this race. I thanked her a lot. She told me that if I didn't stop thanking her, she was going to reconsider our plans!

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IM Boulder. I didn't think the stomach issue could get worse than that race (200+ with stomach issues...possibly bad water/e-coli). Then Kona...3rd worse IM of my life. Time for a year off & figure some things out...
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Paul/Dev, I was quite a bit behind this time, small and larger athletes. I'm 5'9-5'10 & about 148 lbs when race day arrived. I even use a regular vented helmet rather than an aero helmet just to keep cooler. Arm coolers, etc, visors...ice in the hands, in the shirt, elsewhere, 4-5 cups each aid station, just for cooling in addition to the nutrition. I'm usually feeling the heat upon climbing up to T1 in Kona...low heat tolerance which is not good if you want to ever do well in Kona. Some thrive in heat (more than don't)...it just doesn't feel natural to me on anything above 72 F. I did see Ben Hoffman with that cooling neck pack--haven't seen that before. I would think I'd melt it all by 10K though & it would be near boiling. I lost count how many gals that were chicking me, but more than that, how many really old AG'rs were ahead of me (grandpa age). Yep, I think I may have the record on ST for the most consistent number of implosions in Kona. At least I'm consistent! Heat sucks...unfortunately it is part of triathlon or we'd be ice skating!
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Thank you so much for the kind words. I have really come to love this sport and the biggest regret that I have is that I don't do it in a more sociable fashion. I sure would love to make more time to train with everyone else around the area, but it is so difficult coordinating the family/work/training schedule for one person, I can't imagine making it all work out so that multiple people could do stuff together frequently.

I am grateful that at least via the internet and the local race circuit that I have been able to connect with awesome folks like you. It definitely helps keep the motivation high!

We will be racing together again soon I hope. This time I will try to beat that pink helmet out of T1!

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Also, thanks for the very well-written race report, one of the best I've read.

Thanks for the compliments. There was a time when I really enjoyed writing, my profession is very technical, so as a result I often fear that I am losing my "writing chops."

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Way to represent NOLA. Good to see we had some KQ from here.
I too worry that never getting consistent climbing practice limits the races I am capable of competing in, but at least we have heat acclimation checked.
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PM me Zilla, do we know each other?

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Way to represent NOLA. Good to see we had some KQ from here.
I too worry that never getting consistent climbing practice limits the races I am capable of competing in, but at least we have heat acclimation checked.

Don't limit your mind....you can get plenty of climbing practice anywhere. Just get on a trainer and crank up the wattage. Meanwhile get your weight low. That's 98% of climbing preparation. The final part is gearing. If need be do the climbing training on the trainer at 75-80 RPM if you won't have enough gearing in real life and stick a telephone book under the front wheel to simulate the front of your saddle higher than the rear. That gets you to 99.5%. The final 0.5% is the fact that your bike rocks outdoors and won't on the trainer. Climbing is simply about watts per kilo. Nothing else matters that much. You don't need any climbing specificity to climb well if your watts per kilo are taken care of. You can do that, anywhere in the world....the cabbage and water Macca approved diet can be helpful. In extreme cases the Eganski approved tapeworm diet to drop the denominator some more before race day :-)
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I am with you 100% on the bike, the running however is where it would help to actually have a bit of topography somewhere with 50 miles.

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Yes, on the run you need downhills somewhere. Your best bet is the Precor Treadmills that have a 3% downhill at some gyms. One year training for Boston marathon, I did a weekly 39 min 10K run on a minus 4% decline on my treadmill by jacking up the back end of the treadmill with some books. I did not have any hills that were were long or gradual enough, just shorter steeper hills and I wanted to get used to running with high foot speed for a long time....2:59.52 was my final time :-). So if you have no downhills, this is your best option. Make sure your treadmill motor can handle it as it has to lift your entire body weight up the treadmill on every stride. I had a fan running on my motor to keep it cool.
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Awesome idea. If I BQ as planned, I will keep that one in mind for sure.

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Great read Jim! As you know, I competed in my first tri this year. But what you didn't know is that my motivation came after I was called "too old" to be considered a top flight rugby referee. Nevermind that I was 37 at the time and had passed the required fitness tests, this really irked me. Thanks to my sister and your words of encouragement, I jumped head first into this crazy world of triathlons. I finished that sprint race and did ok: 2nd for first timers (30-39) and 4th best novice male (35-39). My wife and two kids were there cheering me on as if I, too, were at Kona. In fact, my kids ran with me to the finish line. Needless to say, I'm hooked and want to thank you for what you have done for me. Cheers bud!
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Enjoy the ride Tev, it is a fun lifestyle, especially when the family is right there with you. I hope to toe the line with you at Nola 70.3.

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