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I know premature, very premature. But I have a question for the crowd. IF I run a September marathon fast enough (BQ), and IF I get into Boston. Is is reasonable to race the AZ about a month after Boston? I have done the F1 the past three years, puked in the bushes the first and took home a stein last and this year. Still a little tender walking down stairs....Thanks to everyone who makes this race a must on the calendar.

Cheers!



"If we could give every individual the right amount of nourishment and exercise, not too little and not too much, we would have found the safest way to health"
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I "raced" (ok - participated) Boston this year. On < 200m of running.
(I don't reccomend this to anybody).
Then got my act (a little more) together and did some hilly riding and trail running to prep as best I could for AmZof.

I lived. You will too.
(Or not. But then you won't need to worry about it. <smirk>)

My buddy Dennis (d-Elvis) also did the Boston-AmZof combo, and PB'd the CWD by 9 minutes.


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Gagne603] [ In reply to ]
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Sure why not, people have done much dumber stuff.

Train for Boston while maintaining some bike training. Once you get through Boston switch to a bike/hill focus while maintaining some decent run training focusing on trails/hills.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
I "raced" (ok - participated) Boston this year. On < 200m of running.
(I don't reccomend this to anybody).
Then got my act (a little more) together and did some hilly riding and trail running to prep as best I could for AmZof.


I lived. You will too.
(Or not. But then you won't need to worry about it. <smirk>)

My buddy Dennis (d-Elvis) also did the Boston-AmZof combo, and PB'd the CWD by 9 minutes.

Anyone know if registration is going to happen for 2015?
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Gagne603] [ In reply to ]
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My friend Chris Wilhelm did the AmZof Long course last year after running Boston. He also did (well started and dnf'd due to double flatting) St. Croix in between. The year prior he did Boston followed by the GCG F1.

Then of course there's Rich Burke...who ran Boston in the mid 2:30's and won the GCG F1 race two years in a row. So I guess that makes it "reasonable". ;)
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KAlber wrote:
My friend Chris Wilhelm did the AmZof Long course last year after running Boston. He also did (well started and dnf'd due to double flatting) St. Croix in between. The year prior he did Boston followed by the GCG F1.

Then of course there's Rich Burke...who ran Boston in the mid 2:30's and won the GCG F1 race two years in a row. So I guess that makes it "reasonable". ;)

Nah, the only year he went "mid-2:30's" at Boston was the inferno year.

He went ~2:32 the other times.
Seems "reasonable" to me.

PS - doesn't look like the website has been updated since a day or 2 before this year's race.
Guess that whole 'real job' thing has caught up w/ tetsuoni.

You can still pencil it in for the Sunday before Memorial Day (which is also typically the weekend after Mother's Day) of 2015.


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah...but he only got 2nd at AmZof to some obscure multi-sport athlete in one of those 2:32 years. Back when the idea of going sub 5 for the GCG race was but a dream.

Obviously holding back at Boston in 2012 to the tune of 2:35 to then break 5 hours at AmZof a few weeks later was the right call. It's the only "reasonable" explanation.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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when does registration typically open? and close? im assuming it closes fast, because of all the talk ive seen on the forum.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [KAlber] [ In reply to ]
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KAlber wrote:
Yeah...but he only got 2nd at AmZof to some obscure multi-sport athlete in one of those 2:32 years. Back when the idea of going sub 5 for the GCG race was but a dream.

Obviously holding back at Boston in 2012 to the tune of 2:35 to then break 5 hours at AmZof a few weeks later was the right call. It's the only "reasonable" explanation.

Agreed - he obviously needed to sandbag pretty hard at Boston to be able to win AmZof.
Wasn't getting his name on a trophy at Beantown - he made the only "reasonable" decision one could make in that scenario.


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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The 2015 AmZof is May 17.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Great, how's the weather going to be?

When for registration?

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Great, how's the weather going to be?

Of all the jobs that Tetsuoni is presently holding, Weatherman of New Paltz is not on the list.

Yet.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [CeeCee] [ In reply to ]
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My AARP memory says my credit card got whacked last August for the May gala..........past results do not guarantee future performance, blah, blah, blah........start hounding the Asst Director of Marketing (Cee Cee) to emerge from her Canadian tax cave and make the trip this year to the Mohonk troll trek. CWD just ain't right without THE Canadian participating.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Trihumor] [ In reply to ]
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Trihumor wrote:
My AARP memory says my credit card got whacked last August for the May gala..........past results do not guarantee future performance, blah, blah, blah........start hounding the Asst Director of Marketing (Cee Cee) to emerge from her Canadian tax cave and make the trip this year to the Mohonk troll trek. CWD just ain't right without THE Canadian participating.

wtf, do you "watch" all threads that have American Zofingen in the title???? gawd....
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [CeeCee] [ In reply to ]
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CeeCee wrote:
Trihumor wrote:
My AARP memory says my credit card got whacked last August for the May gala..........past results do not guarantee future performance, blah, blah, blah........start hounding the Asst Director of Marketing (Cee Cee) to emerge from her Canadian tax cave and make the trip this year to the Mohonk troll trek. CWD just ain't right without THE Canadian participating.

wtf, do you "watch" all threads that have American Zofingen in the title???? gawd....

Doesn't everybody?!

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [CeeCee] [ In reply to ]
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That's right Cee Cee..........trolls troll and haters hate. I am a card carrying member of both tribes as well as a USAT certified hypocrit. Shocked, I know......
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Trihumor] [ In reply to ]
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Trihumor wrote:
That's right Cee Cee..........trolls troll and haters hate. I am a card carrying member of both tribes as well as a USAT certified hypocrit. Shocked, I know......

what language are you speaking? ;-)
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Registration will be open by Friday.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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tetsuoni wrote:
Registration will be open by Friday.

Let the suffering begin!

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Sweeney wrote:
tetsuoni wrote:
Registration will be open by Friday.

Let the suffering begin!

WOOT!!!


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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I will not miss out this year!

Unfortunately, I had eye surgery (detached retina) last year when registration opened so I didn't see it {pun intended}
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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By Friday or on Friday?
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [denali2001] [ In reply to ]
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Registration for the 2015 American Zofingen is now open at Active.com



http://www.active.com/...n-zofingen-2015?int=




2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Open now

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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No excuses, registration is now open.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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IN!!!!
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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I'd already be registered but Active doesn't take American Express. I'll finish it when I get home later.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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in
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [meuf] [ In reply to ]
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I don't know if Im registered. All I got after I clicked Enter was:

Attention! Your cart is empty! Please search for another event.

Did you get any confirmation?

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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I don't see it, brother. Active is a pretty good system - I think you'll know it when it goes through.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [CeeCee] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in.......5th time CWD'er! (He said with a modicum of pride) Were I hosting SNL, I'd get a cool bathrobe with a big 5 on it.

I believe that also gives me a bye on having to re-jigger the first run signage for the long course carnies.......some other disgruntled CWDer can take on that sabotage role in 2015.

Note to RD: Active would not take my coupon code "Cee Cee's Beeyotch" again this year.........can you take a look at that.

PS: I sure hope the shirts are white this year.......
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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yes I got confirmation and 2 emails one about payment and one confirming registration
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Guess that means I better sign up...F1 or CWD, F1 actually left me a good bit less beat up....hmmmmm....
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [meuf] [ In reply to ]
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In!
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [steelerguy] [ In reply to ]
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As you're all aware, we're very liberal with distance switched up to and including race day morning (assuming you bribe me with good beer and/or cigars).

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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tetsuoni wrote:
As you're all aware, we're very liberal with distance switched up to and including race day morning (assuming you bribe me with good beer and/or cigars).


I have been bringing you gift baskets of Canadian stuff for years AND supplying Canadian (aka REAL) beer to select AmZof racers (let the sucking up begin now) AND have been your Assistant Director of Marketing BUT have yet to be given permission to switch down to my desired distance:

Canadian Accountant Womenz Post-Tax-Season (CAWPTS)

5 mile run
90 minute drink coffee in transition zone (fk I hate that bike course)
3 mile run
Coffee and Meditation Station break at the Inukshuks
2 mile run

Lemme know when registration opens for that, eh?

eh??????

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Trihumor] [ In reply to ]
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Trihumor wrote:
Note to RD: Active would not take my coupon code "Cee Cee's Beeyotch" again this year.........can you take a look at that.

There's no space between Cee and Cee.

and your coupon's expired anyway......

I need another box of pastries from Schenectady and then we'll talk.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Just tried to sign up again. Now I have to contact customer service.

Do you think it's the coupon code ''bagpipes suck'' that's keeping me out?

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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I'm sorry you're having such trouble signing up. That coupon code certainly isn't helping.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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i'm in, thanks for the notice
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [CeeCee] [ In reply to ]
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that is a course I could be down with.....
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [SlowAmericano] [ In reply to ]
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Glad to have you.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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tetsuoni wrote:
No excuses, registration is now open.

Nope, none. And I just received my AARP card so I'll be one of the youngest geezers there. Gunning for another mug, this time in 50-54's!

Bring it old timers!!!
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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In!

"if you chose it, it's not really pain"
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in! I'm in!

GCG F1, 65 and over

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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As you're all aware, we're very liberal with distance switched up to and including race day morning (assuming you bribe me with good beer and/or cigars).

I reserve the right to utilize the time-honored tradition of begging and/or bribing the RD to let me drop down to CWD if need be.

I'm IN like Flynn. GCG F1.
Sounds good now, we'll see how I'm feeling about this decision next May. See above about begging/bribing the RD.


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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In and back up to GCG F1 this year.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Excellent - so, what was the problem?

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Last night's problem was that I started the sign-up on my Ipad while I was sitting in a Baskin-Robins in Manhattan while I waited for my wife to finish work. When I saw that they didn't take AmeX, I just clicked to another window and came to ST to complain. When I got home, I got a MasterCard and finished the entry. Meanwhile, for lack of activity, they shut my entry down. So, this morning I tried again on my laptop using Internet Explorer with no luck. When I called customer service, they told me they were having some problems with IE and I should try another browser. I opened up Chrome and Presto-change; I'm in!

Now I have a real problem. I have to do a race that's almost twice as long as it was when I finished CDW feeling great two years ago in the rain. Hope I can finish this one feeling the same.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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There seems something very apropos about trying to sign up for AmZof at Baskin Robbins.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [denali2001] [ In reply to ]
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Nutty Coconut cone. You don't want me to starve, do you?

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Seriously, it's a sin to be at BnR and not get mint chocolate chip!
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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IN! LC #6
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [rodwilsonsr] [ In reply to ]
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Damn, that's getting up into Krol territory. Impressive.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in and back to the LC. BTW, I usually avoid Active like the plague, but AmZof is sort of like the plague so I guess it is appropriate.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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ML, in a prior Zofingen thread I think you recommended a pair of lightweight Inov-8 trail shoes. Since it would be rather time consuming to read every post of yours on the last Zofingen thread, no matter how enjoyable, I wondered if you would be a gentleman and post your recommendation again.

Thanks,
Victor

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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In for 2nd attempt at middle distance (prior CWD smallish stein holder, ITT flood victim)... I'll remember to do some running before May this time around.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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John, are you going to revive the ITT?

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Not at this time. I prefer to hold it the same day as AmZof, as we've already got support and security out on the roads, but the Grand Fondo now falls on the same day, which makes it unfeasible for us to set up a separate staging / timing area due to low numbers.

The racing calendar is so crowded these days. I'd still like to stage an AmZof triathlon, swimming 1.5 miles in Williams Lake, cycling out to and back from the bike loop (69 miles) then running 16 miles on the trails in and around Williams Lake (each distance 60% iron distance), but there's just too many events, all of which have seen numbers dwindle.

I thought a 50 mile ultra run (10 x AmZof run loop) would be a sick stupid human trick, but we've already got a great 50 miler with Rock the Ridge and a vicious beast known as Manitou's Revenge.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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What kind of numbers do you think you'd need to make AmZof Tri viable?
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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tetsuoni wrote:
Not at this time. I prefer to hold it the same day as AmZof, as we've already got support and security out on the roads, but the Grand Fondo now falls on the same day, which makes it unfeasible for us to set up a separate staging / timing area due to low numbers.

The racing calendar is so crowded these days. I'd still like to stage an AmZof triathlon, swimming 1.5 miles in Williams Lake, cycling out to and back from the bike loop (69 miles) then running 16 miles on the trails in and around Williams Lake (each distance 60% iron distance), but there's just too many events, all of which have seen numbers dwindle.

I thought a 50 mile ultra run (10 x AmZof run loop) would be a sick stupid human trick, but we've already got a great 50 miler with Rock the Ridge and a vicious beast known as Manitou's Revenge.

Well.....having never heard of Manitou's....and now i can't UN-know the event after looking it up. I'm f'n hooked. Thanks for that mind f*ck.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [denali2001] [ In reply to ]
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Off the top of my head, 300 should do it.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [rodwilsonsr] [ In reply to ]
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Perhaps I'll see you on the start line in 2015.

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"The racing calendar is so crowded these days. I'd still like to stage an AmZof triathlon, swimming 1.5 miles in Williams Lake, cycling out to and back from the bike loop (69 miles) then running 16 miles on the trails in and around Williams Lake (each distance 60% iron distance), but there's just too many events, all of which have seen numbers dwindle. "

I know that you proposed the AZ Triathlon at Williams Lake before. That was before I got my Bionic hips. If you try it again, I would drop everything to be there!

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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You should be able to get 300 bodies for that easily. If you can't, then you need to replace your marketing director ASAP.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [denali2001] [ In reply to ]
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You should be able to get 300 bodies for that easily. If you can't, then you need to replace your marketing director ASAP.

Agreed. That guy is a total chump.
Not worth a penny you pay him.


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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In for the GCG F1. I really intended to quit tri's after this year to focus on running but this race has sucked me back in.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Bell Head] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Victor,

Shoes can be pretty individual/personal.
I have narrow feet w high arches, so what works for me, may not for somebody else.

For many years, and many LC's (and my first 1-2 GCG F1's) I used Adidas Adizero XT's to very good effect.

Then, I did the Escarpment Trail Run, and noticed all the stud trail peeps wearing this brand of shoe I'd never seen before - Inov8.
I slid all over the place on the wet, rocky, rooty, muddy, steep, insanely technical trails. Ugh.

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
I got a pair of Rocite 295's, and have worn the hell out of them over the years.

This past year, I used X-Talon 195's (like trail race flats - btw, the model # for each shoe is the weight in grams) for the opening run, and then TrailRoc 255's for the 2nd run.
I will go with this plan again next time.

I like having fresh shoes for each run, if need be. And I prefer a little more shoe for running off the bike, since I tend to be a bit heavier/sloppier w my run technique then.
Wonder why?
YMMV.


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tetsuoni wrote:
Off the top of my head, 300 should do it.

If you want to attract the mainstream triathlete, making AZtri; 1.2s, 56b, 13.1r is the way to go. Normal triathletes, not American Zoffingers, like the standard distaces

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Better yet, just advertise it as an official HIM and then kick back and enjoy all the posts on ST, "Waaah, the course was long!"
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Sweeney wrote:
tetsuoni wrote:
Off the top of my head, 300 should do it.


If you want to attract the mainstream triathlete, making AZtri; 1.2s, 56b, 13.1r is the way to go. Normal triathletes, not American Zoffingers, like the standard distaces

I'd suggest .9, 25, 6.2. Given 165 played last year at the DU and less than 100 at a 70.3 converted time (i.e. F-1 or LC), I'd find it hard to believe he could get 300 people to do a non-p.r., non-IM 70.3 that is not easily drivable for most people that morning.

300 for an Olympic seems a bit more realistic.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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AmZof was never for "normal triathletes". Those lemmings can pay $700(?) to WTC for their "M-Dot" brand finishers' medals. Non-standard distances have been debated ad nauseum on ST. My racing philosophy has always been, "same day, same course, whoever shows up." Besides, as it is 6.66 miles from Williams Lake to the AmZof circuit, a 2 loop lollipop cannot be shrunk to 56 miles. A 60% iron distance can get everyone to the beer by sundown.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [B.McMaster] [ In reply to ]
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We've done Olympic distance at William's Lake before. If I recall correctly, 60-70 racers.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [denali2001] [ In reply to ]
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And people call me "evil"...

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Evil is messing with the course so LCers run an extra three miles...
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A 60% iron distance can get everyone to the beer by sundown.

And that is all that really matters. I am IN...and may god have mercy on my soul.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [KAlber] [ In reply to ]
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Is it sold out already? I don't seem to be able to access registration site.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [triFP] [ In reply to ]
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It's NOT on the CM2 promotions website, it's on (ack)tive.com.

http://www.active.com/high-falls-ny/triathlon/american-zofingen-2015?int=


Looks to be working just fine.


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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tetsuoni wrote:
I thought a 50 mile ultra run (10 x AmZof run loop) would be a sick stupid human trick, but we've already got a great 50 miler with Rock the Ridge and a vicious beast known as Manitou's Revenge.

I may qualify as that stupid human, because I'd be interested in 10 x AmZof run loop, but maybe after the fall, after the leaves and tourists are all gone. Who cares if there is snow in the air if you only have to run.

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This past year, I used X-Talon 195's (like trail race flats - btw, the model # for each shoe is the weight in grams) for the opening run, and then TrailRoc 255's for the 2nd run.
I will go with this plan again next time.

That is exactly what I was looking for. I've been running in Inov8 road shoes lately, which are fantastic. I've been interested in trying their trail shoes, but there are so many flavors I didn't know where to start.

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The offroad shoes generally come in 2 distinct "flavors" - big knobby shoes, and moderate knobby shoes:

The X-Talon have the big knobs (and they're made of grippy climbing shoe rubber to boot). Ditto for the 295's.
The TrailRoc's are more moderate knobs (more than adequate for AmZof) and a bit more cushion, support, and underfoot protection, than the Talons.
You'll feel the trail, for better or worse, thru the soles of something like the X-Talon. They're fairly minimalist, other than the killer knobs.


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Not to hijack the thread from more important matters (AmZof and AmZof Tri), would you say the x-talons are more or less a lugged/knobbed racing flat?
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Not to hijack the thread from more important matters (AmZof and AmZof Tri), would you say the x-talons are more or less a lugged/knobbed racing flat?

Yes, indeed. Trail racing flat. I think they weigh < 7oz, which when you see the fairly burly knobs, is pretty damn impressive.
They look like mini-soccer cleats.




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There was no charge for those bonus miles.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Bell Head] [ In reply to ]
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OK, Thanksgiving Sunday. 10 x AmZof 5 mile run loop. See you there at 8 am, after a big breakfast.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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We'll, they'd be free in the AmZof Tri, too!
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I might consider that, if you'll run with me. Looks like there will be about 10.5 hours of daylight, which translates in to 63 minute laps. Better bring a headlamp.

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I didn't think of that (much like the very first AmZof when the start time was pre-dawn AND I didn't know where the light switch was for the pavilion).

OK, it's on my calendar. We'll start at sunrise so we can enjoy the sunset from the pavilion with good beer and war stories.

Slainte!

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For the record, are you agreeing to the "if you'll run with me" part of this? This doesn't mean you need to run side by side with me, because I'll be slow, but that you're signing up for the full ten laps.

If so, I guess I better get out and go for a run!

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Bell Head] [ In reply to ]
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I'd sign up for that. Not the running, though. Watching, heckling and some beers.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Bell Head] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, assuming no injuries, I'll run it with you. I'm planning on a trail marathon the beginning of November which is why I opted for that later date.

I actually, finally, started running again the beginning of May. Of course, I did too much too soon and am currently sidelined, but I did manage to shed 16 of the 33 pounds I gained since Lake Placid 2010 and got some good mileage in. Hopefully, I'll be able to start running again in a few days.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [denali2001] [ In reply to ]
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Also known as the "aid station".

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Shit!


...I mean, you're on! Actually, this will give me the motivation I need to get out and run in the AM, but somehow I'm sure this falls into the "stupid to start" category.

Anybody else want to prove how stupid they are?

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Bell Head wrote:
Shit!


...I mean, you're on! Actually, this will give me the motivation I need to get out and run in the AM, but somehow I'm sure this falls into the "stupid to start" category.

Anybody else want to prove how stupid they are?

Nope, but I did just give my $134 to play with the Canadian Women next May.
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Just think how guilt free Thanksgiving gorging will be.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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First workout aimed at GCG F1 20015 this morning:

5 stage mountain bike brick workout in the Brickyard at Bethpage State Park;

14 minute run through the Brickyard, I wimped on the inner loops

5.6 mile mountain bike ending with the Brickyard

16 minute run through the Brickyard with the inner loops

5.2 mile mountain bike starting and ending with the Brikyard

15 minute run through the whole Brickyard

First time coming up the final hill of the Brickyard on the bike I thought ''I wish I didn't have to do this again''. I had a lot more trips to go up those hills. The final run up that hill my legs were burning.
I might be the oldest person in the race but I'm going to make anyone who finishes in front of me has to earn those beers and burgers at the finish!

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"I might be the oldest person in the race but I'm going to make anyone who finishes in front of me has to earn those beers and burgers at the finish! "

T-shirt slogan 2015?

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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That sounds almost Lebowski-esque... how about --

"... (some hills,) some burgers, some beers, a few laughs. Our fucking troubles are over, Dude."
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [cyfac06] [ In reply to ]
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Dude!

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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I was in Vermont this past weekend and discovered this race...

http://www.vermontoverland.com/vogp/

We need an AmZof version of this: an "adventure" bike duathlon. Might be much for an r/b/r/b/r format, but certainly a r/b/r. If we can find the right spot, certainly would eliminate the traffic management issue!
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [denali2001] [ In reply to ]
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I just DROVE Tantalus and Round Top in Hoholulu. We need to race on this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52K4L8fUes4

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ML would set a land speed record on that.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [denali2001] [ In reply to ]
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Oh, HELL YES. That looks AWESOME!!

Of course, Tetsuoni would have us run, then ride up it first. Then run again.
He's an evil, evil man.


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Then bike again followed by another run. He may be evil but he does provide burgers and beers at the finish line.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [denali2001] [ In reply to ]
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Count me in for the AmZof Tri, hopefully you will get enough interest. Now I just have to coax myself (or drink about 6 Founders' Double Troubles) to sign up once again for the LC. Probably hate myself all winter too...

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Does anybody know the date of the Long course for 2015? I'm guessing that it's Sunday 5/17. Also, when does registration open? I have been thinking about doing this for past two years and I think it's time to suck it up and go for it!
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Registrations been open for a while now.

All 3 events are on Sun 5/17.

$125 now, price goes up to $140 in 4 days.

Sign up for LC, then next year you can panic, and drop down to GCG F1 or CWD, as is the custom.


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May 17, 2015 @ 7:00 am. Registration is now open on Active. Price is presently $125 and will change in 4 days to $140 (according to active)

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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It's official, I'm signed up for LC. Looking forward to it now, but I know that will change the closer we get to it.
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tetsuoni wrote:
OK, Thanksgiving Sunday. 10 x AmZof 5 mile run loop. See you there at 8 am, after a big breakfast.

Canadian Thanksgiving October 12? Or US Thanksgiving #wheneverthatis?

You need to be much more specific in your directoring, Mr. Race Director Dude...
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tetsuoni wrote:
There was no charge for those bonus miles.

You should have charged more!

Oh wait, I'm not the AmZof Director of Finance... never mind
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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
He's an evil, evil man.

word...

and he doesn't pay very well either...
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Both.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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In for CWD. Will be my comeback event since becoming bionic. Haven't run more than 45s at a time since Placid '13. Got some work to do ;-)
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phabio wrote:
In for CWD. Will be my comeback event since becoming bionic. Haven't run more than 45s at a time since Placid '13. Got some work to do ;-)

How bionic are you? Right now I think I have the bionic record with bilateral knee surgeries, bilateral shoulder surgeries and same day bilateral hip resurfacings.

Glad you are in for CDW, it's time to give your bionic parts a workout!!

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Just a single hip resurfacing. 9 months ago.

Glad I won't be the only one wearing down metal joints there!
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These joints are made for athletes. You don't have to worry. I had my surgery three years ago and started running at the 6 month mark. My running keeps getting better. I did CDW in 2013 and I'm in for F1 this coming race.

Have you ever had your hip squeak? It comes from being dehydrated and the first time I heard it, I thought it was my cat!

Where did you have your surgery, what doctor?

It's time for you to get out and start running!

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Good luck. Don't do too much, too soon. You've got plenty of time.

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Thanks for the tip! Never had a squeak, but now I'll be a little less freaked out whenever it does happen. I had mine done at HSS with Dr. Su. Awesome guy, great experience.

Been out for a couple walks with 30s here and there of running thrown in. Started feeling ok. Slow and steady is the plan.

Thanks, Tetsuoni! No panic yet. Just a little bit at a time.

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phabio - you and Sweeney are my heroes.

I can't even comprehend overcoming the issues you have. You guys totally ROCK.
You're both winners simply by making it to the starting line.
See you next May!


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Yo, marketing director, now would be a good time to remind everyone that the entry fee goes up at midnight.

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Yo, marketing director, now would be a good time to remind everyone that the entry fee goes up at midnight.

So, reminding them of that four days ago - wasn't enough?

You should cut my salary in half for that oversight.


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Seems like I have to cut it every year.

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Thanks, Tetsuoni! No panic yet. Just a little bit at a time.

Don't believe him. He just wants to see you suffer.

Get you @ss out the door and start running. These hips are not made of glass!

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I want to see everybody suffer.

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I want to see everybody suffer.

I knew that years ago when you first introduced the race.

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Sweeney wrote:

Get you @ss out the door and start running. These hips are not made of glass!

Sir, yes sir! ;-)

Got out today for 3 miles of run/walk. Most I've run since doing Placid on no cartilage. felt much better!

Dr. Su basically told me to go enjoy the new hip, run again, have fun. Maybe take it easy on the marathons/IM's (I'm young enough to be practically assured of needing a revision at some point). So, I intend on following those directions :-)

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Actually, when I first introduced the race, I was a masochist. I made it for myself.
But as I never get to race it, I became a sadist. So, screw you guys (and gals).





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Just curious, when I signed up through Active I chose the Long Course. I was under the impression that I was entering for only the cycling event (112 miles), but the website shows two long courses. Active doesn't have two different registrations, did I sign up for the LC bike and run?
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ML is fast on the bike, but a slow learner.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [denali2001] [ In reply to ]
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Huh? What?


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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You sound like me when my wife asks about a new toy she's discovered that I bought.
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dbikelink wrote:
Just curious, when I signed up through Active I chose the Long Course. I was under the impression that I was entering for only the cycling event (112 miles), but the website shows two long courses. Active doesn't have two different registrations, did I sign up for the LC bike and run?

You really better get your @ss out the door and start running!!!

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I signed up for the bike to get my @ss out the door to bike, hahahaha
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in other words... there is no bike only AmZof. There used to be the Iron ITT (4 laps of the bike loop), but that event was eliminated this year.

LC may be the most diabolical duathlon in existence with 20 miles total running (5r-84b-15r) on trails that shred legs. But at least you get some PBR and good chili at the end.
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Does anyone have a data file for the run, at least so I can get an idea of what I got myself into!
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send me a PM with your email address and I can get one to you.
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don't forget the burgers.
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dbikelink wrote:
Does anyone have a data file for the run, at least so I can get an idea of what I got myself into!

This is the bike course:



The run course is about the same. You run up, then you run up some more, then you run up again, then you get water and you run down, then up again, then you really run down and then back to transition. Fun, Fun and more Fun

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As a not-possible-to-get-any-flatter-than-here flatlander who signed up for the middle distance (my first time!), I'm in trouble!!
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As a not-possible-to-get-any-flatter-than-here flatlander who signed up for the middle distance (my first time!), I'm in trouble!!

Where are you?

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phabio wrote:
Got out today for 3 miles of run/walk. Most I've run since doing Placid on no cartilage. felt much better!

Dr. Su basically told me to go enjoy the new hip, run again, have fun. Maybe take it easy on the marathons/IM's (I'm young enough to be practically assured of needing a revision at some point). So, I intend on following those directions :-)

Congratulations, I'll bet it felt great. I remember when I went to see Dr Marwin for my 6 month check up. He's right across from Eisenhower Park on Long Island. He told me to go run in the park and come back and tell him how it felt. It was great, first mile I ran and walked but then I just let it go. I got back to Dr Marwin and I was smiling so hard that he was too. It's been all good ever since. I did crash my mountain bike and tear a glute tendon that bothers me but the new joints are like ''Performance Enhancing Devices''

Have you upgraded to Hoka shoes? You should!

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So we're only doing 20 miles of running next year...should be easy then :-/
I accepted the extra miles on the first loop this year in exchange for the great weather. Nothing comes free at AMZOF
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I want to see everybody suffer.

I think I've convinced my boss's wife to sign up for the CWD. I like to see other's suffer as well, so it would be more pleasing if she goes for the LC.
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Does anyone have a data file for the run, at least so I can get an idea of what I got myself into!

Here is a strava file of a Murphy's law lap
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She can always upgrade.

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dbikelink wrote:
Does anyone have a data file for the run, at least so I can get an idea of what I got myself into!

Here is a strava file of a Murphy's law lap

That ML guy is a total piker.


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I am not very familiar with the area up there, I have done the bike look a few times but never deviate from where I start and the direction of the loop. What I usually do is get off the Thruway at exit 18, head west on 299 until I hit the deli/EMS parking lot, jump on the bike and head up the first climb. I would like to head up there in the near future to check out the run course, where do I go? Park the car? Is the run course marked? Also, which direction does the bike loop go?

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you're gonna have a tough time following the exact run course unless you are with someone who knows it. Run is a mix of mild grade gravel roads and steeper technical trail. If you run for a while on any of this stuff that you find near the race start you should have a good idea of the course.

Bike is clockwise loop. Here Won't single out Murphy's Law this time. Park your car in the lot 1/4 mile from where the bike starts and ends.
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It looks like it starts after the right hand turn on the steep climb, is that correct?

Is anybody that knows the run course interested in meeting up for a run there one weekend in September? I'm a strong runner.
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i can't imagine that's good for his job security. even CWD could have career consequences...
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I am not very familiar with the area up there, I have done the bike look a few times but never deviate from where I start and the direction of the loop. What I usually do is get off the Thruway at exit 18, head west on 299 until I hit the deli/EMS parking lot, jump on the bike and head up the first climb. I would like to head up there in the near future to check out the run course, where do I go? Park the car? Is the run course marked? Also, which direction does the bike loop go?

Thanks

Bike loop is clockwise. Other than exiting/entering the Preserve, it's all R turns.
If you don't want to pay the Preserve to park, and only want to ride, you can park at the little chapel just before Clove Road ends (it's a short, nasty hill) and then turns R onto 6A, to begin the climb back up to the Upper 27 Knolls entrance to the Spring Farm lot at the Preserve.
This is maybe a mile downhill of the entrance road. ~2 miles from the top of the Mohonk climb.
You can use your car as the base, and hit it to resupply if you are doing multiple bike laps. When I used to race LC, I did this.

If you plan to run, you have to park in the lot at Spring Farm, and pay the day use fee.
It's pretty tricky trying to follow the run course if you don't know it, and/or aren't with somebody who does. It's all trails, but not at all obvious which ones you should take where (except on raceday, but not always for LC racers on the opening run :-p )
I guess you could set it up as a Route in Strava, and use that to try to stay on course.


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Alright American Zofingites, Klehner has posted a new race in NJ where anyone doing F1 can get in some practice;

http://www.survivalofthemills.com/

I'm in for the Du and it's a perfect F1. If you want to do a swim in the middle of your race ( I guess that means no wetsuit in October in NJ) they have that option.
I'm looking forward to getting in some F1 practice, running some nice trails and having a great time in the Garden State.

Hope to see some of you there. John, that includes you!

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Your ears must've been ringing a few hours ago Jim, I was bragging on you and your bionic hip to somebody who just had his own hip replacement done earlier this year.

That website is a bit wonky - none of the dropdowns seem to be working.
Oh, never mind. You need to scroll down after hitting them.

Looks like fun! (NOT the swimming part - the Du.)


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You know, for an effin epic weekend, for maybe 2 hours more of a drive (while bringing some FREE Heady Topper with you) and $25 more, you can double up...
http://theratsnake.com/ I'd kill to make this double in a weekend "official" If not, understood. If you've been closed out, you have NOTHING to lose for only $25. Kill it American Zofingen athletes!!! Awesome course, awesome race.



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if I weren't in the middle of marathon training with an 18 miler that weekend I would be all over this
ok yes I am a wimp
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You're right. Keep to your plan. When I was around 30 yrs old, I think I could have gotten away with doing both. But if do it, you'll end up with a too cautious run, then a crappy race, then too long of a recovery. Stick to your training plan. What race are you training for?

If you're running in the park, watch your back!!

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CIM
May have to stop bike commuting through the park... According to the police the park is for walkers and runners

What happened was tragic but not sure of their logic

Kind of sucks for those of us who pay attention to the lane markings
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California International? The websight says it's the fastest course in the west. Good luck in the race!

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yup
hoping to BQ
if not will try again in Paris in April....
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Looks like a blast (the du). To bad I'll be with my sons' scout troop on a bike trip.
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B.McMaster wrote:
Bell Head wrote:
Shit!


...I mean, you're on! Actually, this will give me the motivation I need to get out and run in the AM, but somehow I'm sure this falls into the "stupid to start" category.

Anybody else want to prove how stupid they are?


Nope, but I did just give my $134 to play with the Canadian Women next May.

You can get like 10 lap dances with real canadian womans at the "Canadian ballet" in Montreal for that kind of money.
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Does anyone know if the age up rule applies for AmZof? Turn 60 next November.

Rich G
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Does anyone know if the age up rule applies for AmZof? Turn 60 next November.

Rich G

Pretty sure the USAT age rule is used at AmZof.
Whatever your age will be by 12/31/15, is your age for the race.
So, you'll be a "young 60" that day.


float , hammer , and jog

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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
baudyboy wrote:
Does anyone know if the age up rule applies for AmZof? Turn 60 next November.

Rich G

Pretty sure the USAT age rule is used at AmZof.
Whatever your age will be by 12/31/15, is your age for the race.
So, you'll be a "young 60" that day.

You know what Indiana Jones said about that;

"It ain't the years, honey, it's the miles"!

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Alrighty then, this young old man is in for the F1! Western NC mountains are as good a place as any to train for this bucket list race for any serious duathlete!

Rich G
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Alrighty then, this young old man is in for the F1! Western NC mountains are as good a place as any to train for this bucket list race for any serious duathlete!

Rich G
Charlotte NC

Welcome to AZ. It will be good to see another old guy there. I'll be 65 for this years race, also in F1. Hit the hills hard down there on both the run and the bike. And maybe practice drinking Guiness and Jamesons while you run!

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Kudos to the 60 and over "crowd". I turned 50 in July. I'm a 2x CWD finisher,1 time ITT (now defunct) and am registered for CWD again. Marathon training is going well and I often think I can handle the 15 mile run and should switch to the F1.Then I remember the bike. And the run after the bike, ouch!

Thanks for making feel like a wuss. Now I can't use my age as an excuse for not manning up.
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Thanks for the encouragement.

I thought about signing up for the long course, just for the distinction of becoming one of the few geezers to ever finish it, but I think the F1 will be more fun and will let me get a sober idea of what it could be like to do the long course. In North Carolina terms, the long course looks like the Rock to Rock 10K, followed by riding Blood, Sweat and Gears or the Assault on Mount Mitchell (take your pick), followed by the Shut In Ridge trail race. I have done those before, just not on the same day. Looking forward to training with mountain cookie rides and trail runs, my favorite stuff.

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Thanks for making feel like a wuss. Now I can't use my age as an excuse for not manning up.

AZ is the only place where someone doing a 5-29-5 mountain duathlon could feel like a "wus". I've only done CDW one time, 2 races ago inthe rain and cold. I can handle stepping it up to F1, but boy am I hoping for some nice weather.

Come up to F1 with us old guys, it's going to be a beautiful day!

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stillrollin wrote:
Thanks for making feel like a wuss. Now I can't use my age as an excuse for not manning up.


AZ is the only place where someone doing a 5-29-5 mountain duathlon could feel like a "wus". I've only done CDW one time, 2 races ago inthe rain and cold. I can handle stepping it up to F1, but boy am I hoping for some nice weather.

Come up to F1 with us old guys, it's going to be a beautiful day!

I was there too. That is nice weather. But, I've got more insulation than most AZ'ers ;).
Working on that though and if I can finally have a "no weight gain" winter I may just join you.
Setting up the trainer tomorrow. And heading up there for a fall foliage ride at the end of the month.
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Alas, I am back. After a two year hiatus from this insanely difficult and oh so beautiful race, I am returning to the vaunted Long Course. You'd think that turning 50 this March would wise me up. Going to open my last aged KBS to wrap my head around this madness. Can't wait for my ass whoopin'.

Roar Lion Roar
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It's getting close to the Sunday after Thanksgiving. If I remember right, there was a lot of sh*t stirred about the AZ 50 on that day. Are you guys going to be ready to run? The rest of us will surely be ready to drink and laugh!

Today I did another five stage brick; 20 minute run through my neighborhood in Shandaken, 30 minute trainer in the garage, 20, 30, 20. It had me wondering, was middle distance ever a regular 1lap, 2 lap, 2 lap duathlon? I've never done the F1 race, only CDW and only that one 1 time, so I don't know. Like in the SOS, how the swims are rests from the runs and the runs rests from the swims, does F1 make the distance easier. I hear people say that that second bike after the second run is a killer, but what if it came after the first bike, and, the third run came right after the second?

I don't know. I was just torturing myself with this while I was torturing myself in my workout today!

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Only 1 other ever expressed interest in the AZ50 but they pulled the plug about a month ago. I'll run that day, but likely nothing that epic.

The original middle distance was 1/2/2 but the F1 seems to have caught on.

With the Philly marathon this weekend, now would be a good time to pause and remember our dear friend, Chris Gleason, in whose memory the F1 is named. Hard to believe its been 3 years.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Wow, three years. I never met him but we should all honor Chris by living every day like we mean it.

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May he rest in peace.

I actually met him on the AmZof course - on that nasty little hill by the church. In the midst of suffering, he actually managed to bring a smile to my face. He is truly missed.

RIP, Chris, RIP
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I'll be running the Philly Marathon on Sunday. As I did last year, I'll be thinking about Chris and saluting him as I cross the finish line.
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That 1 other who expressed interest was me. But I had a job change and had to put training on hold for a month +. Too bad, because I'm sure I was headed to an epic crash and burn that would have been very entertaining.

I forgot it was the Phily marathon where Chris left us. I also didn't know him, which is too bad.

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After doing the LC for 3 years in a row, I'm likely switching to the F1 for next year. It will keep me from having to ride the trainer for 5hrs throughout March and April. Plus, i'll be done earlier so I can drink and heckle last year's LC winner Colin Martin!

Even though I never met Chris, he was one of the forum members on ST who messaged me personally when I posted about moving to Albany, NY. His enthusiasm for the multisport community in upstate NY made me excited to get out here to live/train/race. His memory clearly lives on through this spectacular (hideous? raunchy?) group of athletes. I'm sure he's laughing hilariously at the spectacles that happen on AmZof race day.
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4 Great trail runs on Long Island to help prepare for AZ

Well, you already missed the first two: The Manorville Hills 15k in November had everything you get in the AZ run and then some, then also in November, there was a 5k at Hecksher Park with two brutal climbs that really had me wishing these races were in April.

Now this Saturday, Dec 6, is the Tough Cookie 8k; http://www.nrcrun.org/...aces/tough-cookie-8k Five miles with the same two hills as the 5k and more.

Coming up is a 9 mile trail run at Hecksher; http://www.glirc.org/...is=12&annee=2014 I'll be out of town for this one and I don't know much about it, but it's in the same place as the two before so it should be a hill fest!


It's 12 degrees with 8 to 10 inches of snow in Ulster County today, do you know where your running shoes are?

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I only knew Chris virtually but certainly every philly marathon I think of him

as I taper for CIM I am thinking of him

and as I get up there for CWD (third time signing up is the charm) I will think of him
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Is registration open yet for 2015 LC?
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [gatormu] [ In reply to ]
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Is this a serious question? Registration opened in October...

http://www.active.com/...an-zofingen-2015?int=

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Thank you.

I know there is a purse for Men, but is there one for Females LC?
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There has not been a prize purse for a few years now.

When we did have a prize purse, we paid the men and women equally.

In the first year, when there were no female LC finishers, the women's purse was given to the men.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
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tetsuoni wrote:
There has not been a prize purse for a few years now.

When we did have a prize purse, we paid the men and women equally.

In the first year, when there were no female LC finishers, the women's purse was given to the men.

Well the 1st one to finish gets the best burger and choice of drinks, so there is a bit of a prize purse.
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And the first to finish the F-1 gets immortalized on the Chris Gleason memorial trophy.

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B.McMaster wrote:
tetsuoni wrote:
There has not been a prize purse for a few years now.

When we did have a prize purse, we paid the men and women equally.

In the first year, when there were no female LC finishers, the women's purse was given to the men.


Well the 1st one to finish gets the best burger and choice of drinks, so there is a bit of a prize purse.

and bragging rights for life!

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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I consider my completion of the LC a few years ago as one my great accomplishments in my sporting life. It was my second attempt.

While I do not run very much anymore overall (finishing the LC broke me fro a very long time), I have learned so much as an athlete since then that i often think/feel that i have unfinished business with the event...
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meuf wrote:
I only knew Chris virtually but certainly every philly marathon I think of him

as I taper for CIM I am thinking of him

and as I get up there for CWD (third time signing up is the charm) I will think of him

Knew him virtually through Endurance Nation, we were supposed to meet up at IM Syracuse's inagural year, but had miscommunications... a very nice guy



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I will be joining you all on May 17 (first time). Instead of sitting around all morning and day waiting for me to make way around this course, my wife would like to volunteer and help out on race day. How do I get her signed up ?
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Online
Race day works too
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You can e-mail the RD at pipermcgovern@gmail.com

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Murphy and others who have had good races at middle distance, what was your running like building up to the race? This will be my longest running day in ten years and I want to run well. My long run right now is at 9 miles and I've been hitting hills near my house on Long Island. I'm going to add the 3 mile up-hill run up to my Shandaken house to some of my runs up there. It has two 10-15% sections that will help build me up.

I'm not too worried about the bike, with any kind of break from the weather I'll be ready for that. I'm just concerned about what it takes to be ready for those hills on the third run.

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Lots'0 Miles worked for me. 50-60 mpw all winter. Longest run each week was ~12 miles, with a couple of 16 mile long runs thrown in during the Winter/Spring (mostly because that's how far it was from my house to my parent's house). Generally 2 days of tempo/week (often one would be during the long run), but no other faster running. I didn't do any specific hill training...as a matter of fact 95% of my runs were on a bike path along the Charles River in Boston where the only elevation changes were the bridges. Basically, I think marathon training would be the most suitable...if you are fast you are going to be running for a total of ~2 hours.

If anything, I'd get in some downhill fast running as by the 3rd lap I was dreading the pounding my quads would take on the fast downhills. Pacing on the first run and bike is also key. Look at the splits from previous years and you'll see there are a lot of "first lap heroes"...giving up a minute on the first run might gain you back 5 on the last.

During the race, you will spend very little time running the pace you end up averaging for the run legs...it's either marching up a fairly steep trail (by the 3rd lap it is not clear if people running are gaining on the people walking these sections), or ripping down a not so steep (maybe 2-3%) fire road at your 5K pace.

The last few years I've only been a cyclist, but if I ever start running again it will be so I can do this race again. Good luck!
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Mostly 50-mile weeks from Christmas through April last year. I tried to run hills when I could, but never "focused" on it. Weekly 15-18 mile long run. All slow, easy running.

I wouldn't underestimate the bike; regardless of your run fitness, that second bike loop can really blow things up for the final run. I still didn't "nail" the pacing I hoped for, and will just say that the first run and ride should feel VERY comfortable if you want to be close to even-splitting things.
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Thanks guys. I guess high mileage always works, but with two knee surgeries and two fake hips, I'm not willing to run 50 miles per for that many months. I usually run two days on, one day off. So right now it's 9, 5, 5 hills, 4 tempo. I can probably build to 15, 5, 7, 5 and keep working the hills. I'll be thrilled if I can have run splits like 50, 55, 50. With bike splits around 1:50:00, I hope I can come in around 6:30:00.

No matter what, it should be a great day!

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Good luck. Personally, if injuries are a problem I'd avoid running more than 10 miles in lieu of running more frequently. The recovery cost for that 15 mile run is pretty big compared to a 10 miler, at least it is for me.

Either way, the other takeaway from mine and bltri's posts is that managing the early part of the race will pay dividends at the end. Staying under control when everyone takes off like it's a 5K or starts the ride going for the KOM on the first climb is key.
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Anyone have experience with race day packet pickup? I'm doing the long course and it's a 7am start but don't want to pay for a motel/hotel if possible. (Am trying a year of doing triathlon on the cheap so going to drive on race morning from NYC)
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We usually do not have any problems with packet pickup.

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Packet pickup goes like this:

<walk up to volunteer at table>
"Hi, I'm dado0583 and I'm doing Long Course."
"Here's your packet."

I think the longest it ever took was :45 seconds. Maybe :50. It's about a 1 minute walk from your car to transition, and the portas are on the way.
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Awesome. Thanks. I'm excited by this race!
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kdw wrote:
I think the longest it ever took was :45 seconds. Maybe :50. It's about a 1 minute walk from your car to transition, and the portas are on the way.


It takes a bit longer if you stick around to vandalize the RD's Defender.

Errr, DECORATE, I mean DECORATE!


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Serious question/concern:
I thought it was sold out?

I looked (probably in the October/November timeframe) and could have sworn it turned me back.
Maybe i was on the 2014 site?

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I don't think it's sold out. Here is the Active entry page;

http://www.active.com/...n-zofingen-2015?int=

Maybe some day the RD will put down the bagpipes long enough to update his website and include a list of regitered entries.

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I have a website?

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I've done the LC twice and on both occasions drove up same morning from Long Island. Absolutely no issues. Very easy. The issues occurred on the second and third loop of the run.

Roar Lion Roar
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tetsuoni wrote:
I have a website?


http://www.cm2promotions.com/american-zofingen


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Thanks. I was actually being a smart ass. Our webmaster took a new job a while back and no one has been available to work on the site. We're a small race, with many of the athletes returning from previous years. The best source for AmZof news is actually the annual ST smack talk thread.

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PM me if you want help. I might be able to help you out.
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Thank you.

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98 days to race day

The course is covered with ice and snow

What did you do on your bike today?

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I have a bike?

Happy Birthday to Chris G yesterday. In his honour, we should all do a workout. Or have a beer. Or laugh at Canadian Womens who get speeding tickets in NYS... because apparently that is funny?

Good Morning Amzofians.
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No bike these days - I did run 15 miles up and over Peekamoose. You?

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I vote for laughing at Canadian Womens who get NYS speeding tickets. Because, I'm not that type of lawyer.

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''I did run 15 miles up and over Peekamoose.''


Nice run! With my fake hips I'm not willing to run that long. I've added the 2.2 mile run up the hill to my house in Shandaken to most of my runs up there. Hitting TrainerRoad hard, going downstairs to ride right now.





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No bike these days - I did run 15 miles up and over Peekamoose. You?

No stateside law infractions recently. Some US tax work because I'm trying to become that type of accountant. Lots of yoga, because being flexible is a good thing.
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''I'm not that type of lawyer.''


I might have to go in for Jury Duty tomorrow. If I tell them I know you and I need my time to train for AZ, that should get me excused, right?

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''I'm not that type of lawyer.''


I might have to go in for Jury Duty tomorrow. If I tell them I know you and I need my time to train for AZ, that should get me excused, right?

Or just say - The defendant looks guilty and even if he's not, I'm sure he did something wrong.
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One of my duties at the Sheriff's Department is dealing with non-compliant jurors for the Commissioner of Jurors, so I'm probably not the guy with whom you want to be conniving. More often than not, your duty is limited to calling in. Good luck!

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When I was working I used to do my best to get out. Now that I'm retired, I'm actually looking forward to it. Called in last night, have to call again tonight.

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Well, I'm going in tomorrow. Good thing my pool is right near the Nassau County Courthouse, I can swim before I get there.

Hope I get a good case!

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Officially registered for GCG Memorial Middle Distance. Have done LC the past 3 years, looking forward to stepping down to a shorter race and getting to the beer earlier!
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MSUtri wrote:
Officially registered for GCG Memorial Middle Distance. Have done LC the past 3 years, looking forward to stepping down to a shorter race and getting to the beer earlier!

I'LL TRY TO SAVE SOME FOR YA!

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First timer (trying LC).

9 weeks out here is what I am doing...am I missing anything

1. Run as much as I can stand
2. Bike as much as I can stand
3. Run and Bike some more
4. Check weather forecast daily (Long range forecast only goes to April 20 53 and rainy...)
5. Do as many Run - Bike - Run - Drink Beer bricks as I can stand.
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Hills, hills, hills, and heckling
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Look at this:

http://shawangunkrunners.com/...ridge-2-bridge-run-2

Shawangunk Runners are providing us with a perfect training day. Run the race, ride a lap of the AZ course and run a lap of the AZ run I just signed up. Anyone else interested?

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Anyone run the Kings Park 15k on Long Island this morning? 40 degrees, steady rain, wicked nasty hills kicking my ass, about a mile into a cold freezing wind, Then the last mile, another nasty hill up to the finish. All while running around a boarded up insane asylum; perfect AZ training.

It was some kind on regional championship and it brought out all the good runners in the area. Right after you finished, they typed your number into a machine that printed out all your race stats. With that crowd, I was happy with an 8th in my age group.

Right now I'm home and my quads are killing me from the down hilling. Just had chicken soup and a bean burrito and I hope I'll be ready for the bike tomorrow.

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Did it last year, the rain held of for the race, but the afternoon weather was a mirror image to today's weather. The hills are tough. Coming up that last hill was the highest my HR has been in a while.

Had to pass this year as I am running NYC half mary tomorrow.

Nice job in tough conditions.

Mike
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Did it last year, the rain held of for the race, but the afternoon weather was a mirror image to today's weather. The hills are tough. Coming up that last hill was the highest my HR has been in a while.

Had to pass this year as I am running NYC half mary tomorrow.

Nice job in tough conditions.

Mike

you guys are beasts. I would've stayed home in this weather. good luck on 1/2 tmrw. I'll be there
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Bypasskid] [ In reply to ]
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Good luck to both of you in tomorrow's race.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like I finally get to test myself out on the F1 course if my switch goes thru. Looking forward to finally seeing what this race is all about! Hint RD answer Ed Cullens email please!

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [jw67] [ In reply to ]
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It's been pretty quiet around here, but don't worry. It's very easy to switch distances when you pick up your number. Are you switching from CDW to F1? Most people switch the other way.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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No, awaiting a registration transfer. I may switch to LC race day, I would prefer the longer torture.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [jw67] [ In reply to ]
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Does anyone know the procedure for transfer for an entry for this year's race? I have two entries available for transfer.

Rich G
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Hey John,
Who do I contact about not being able to make it to LC this year. I picked up a nice stress fracture in my femur...so my 5 LC's in a row will stand at 5...the 6th will be interrupted till next year.
Rod
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [rodwilsonsr] [ In reply to ]
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Message from the RD In Absentia. Be patient. It's March. He's a little busy. He will deal with transfers between race distances once his Holy Season is over.

If not then, he will deal with them on race packet pick-up day.

Get off the internet and get outside training.

His actual response may have been censored by his Assistant Director of Marketing. ;-)


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [CeeCee] [ In reply to ]
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Addendum to prior post.... from the RD himself:

I have never refused a transfer between distances but request that it be done no later than the Wednesday before the race.

There is no difference in fee so might as well go long course.

((You gotta know that last sentence was his because I see no reason why anyone would ever do anything beyond short course!))

He promises to respond to requests once he catches his breath after all that piping and marching and pub-crawling.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [CeeCee] [ In reply to ]
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49 days until AZ...........do you know where your bicycle is?

Snow and ice is finally off of the Ulster County roads. It's time to find you bike shoes, dump out the dead crickets and mice droppings and maybe, just maybe do a little training. And maybe run a hill or two!

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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49 days left and we just had snow on Saturday AGAIN...

this is BS!!!!

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [CeeCee] [ In reply to ]
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so thinking that I am in.... do I need trail running shoes are my racing flats going to cut the mustard.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [jw67] [ In reply to ]
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Is the whole run trails? (I'm suddenly thinking that I'm underprepared for this race!)

After reading this race report I am suddenly in a cold sweat!

http://theramblingsofanendurancejunkie.blogspot.com/2011/05/american-zofingen-race-reportmud-sweat.html
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [dado0583] [ In reply to ]
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yes, the entire run is on trails. Yes, it's crazy hilly. There are a lot of rocks and roots. I've always worn trail shoes. It's the greatest race i've ever done. You won't regret it.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [MSUtri] [ In reply to ]
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Can't wait!!
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [dado0583] [ In reply to ]
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I am totally unprepared
it should be awesome
might be crawling
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meuf wrote:
I am totally unprepared
it should be awesome
might be crawling[/quot

You have plenty of time, get moving right now!

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Shoes bought today, I'll get on the trails when I get them. Booya

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [CeeCee] [ In reply to ]
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So what is the deal with the Queen Bee of the Canadian Contingent and the trek to McGovernville in May? Not fair to get some of the local lemmings pointed to the Mohonk Sufferfest and sit back from afar and toss smack...........What say u CBC.......Cee Cee? Life is short...........get your crew to NY. The state troopers will privide the annual escort!
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Trihumor] [ In reply to ]
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really just bumping the post but I'm still waiting to hear if they are transferring entries? Should I start run, bike, run, bike, run, training?

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [jw67] [ In reply to ]
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I'll be responding to transfer requests, etc... this week. Thank you for your patience.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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For anyone that can chime in, I'm fixin to drive up and do some biking. If I only bike the Zofingen loop (and don't do any running), where would you suggest I park, given that going to the preserve will cost $17? I'm completely unfamiliar with any of the roads outside those used for the course, and would love to avoid getting a ticket or towed! Thanks in advance.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Tsunami] [ In reply to ]
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There is a small pulloff (really, just a wide dirt shoulder) at the intersection of Butterville Rd and Gatehouse Rd. I've parked there on bike route recon rides before and never had a problem. Plus, you don't have to start the bike by climbing! So that's always a plus.
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Tsunami wrote:
For anyone that can chime in, I'm fixin to drive up and do some biking. If I only bike the Zofingen loop (and don't do any running), where would you suggest I park, given that going to the preserve will cost $17? I'm completely unfamiliar with any of the roads outside those used for the course, and would love to avoid getting a ticket or towed! Thanks in advance.

Im planning as well with a friend. mid week next week or the following.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Bypasskid] [ In reply to ]
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Riding Saturday after the trail race at the sight. One lap then ride the 36 or so miles home to Shandaken,

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A lot of people park at the small church lot just below the final right hand turn that puts you on the climb back up to the Preserve. Also, near that corner, is a parking area on the left if you descend from the Preserve and pass that corner, heading straight towards High Falls. Riders doing multiple loops find the church lot a good spot to store aid.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Awesome, thanks! I was wondering about that spot.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Are you running in tomorrow's trail race?

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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No, but I might be running in the area, unless I head up into the mountains for bear wrasslin'

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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If I see any, I'll send them your way!

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Rode the course today and yes there is parking for about 6 vehicles on Butterville Rd by that old RR bridge. Also, on 44/55 there is plenty of room to park on the side in the first mile after you make the turn off of Butterville. This morning it was snowing when I left my house in Shandaken. I should have expected it since this was an AZ training day. I got to the race sight and ran the Bridge to Bridge trail run, 5 miles, great start for the day. Then after some snacks and water, changed clothes and took off for some suffering on my 22 lb steel Look road bike. Took the first hill easy like everyone should but I still felt it in the legs when I went under the bridge at the golf course. Hit 45 on the downhill with no aerodynamics. Hope to see 50 in the race. The roads are in great condition, especially considering the wicked winter we just had around here. 44/55 has a couple of rough spots but you are not going fast at those places. There is one place that could be dangerous on Granite Rd. At one high speed section after the Hudson Valley Resort and the camp on the right side, the road is pretty torn up and you have to go out to the center line of the road. This is a high speed area so whatch out for it. The rest is all good; fast, clean and beautiful. When I got to Mohonk Rd, I made a left instead of the right up the last hill, and I headed back to Shandaken, The Land of Ice and Snow, as we call it around here! The west wind was kicking the crap out of me and I called my wife to pick me up at Shandaken HS to save me that last ten miles into the wind and the wicked climb up to our house.

Now I'm home and I'm trashed. Here's a question; I'd like to force myself to run the 3 miles up my hill tomorrow morning. Is there any value in it, or should I just rest my weary bones?

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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i ran a trail run in pa this morning and was late to head north after doubling back home to get my helmut. only had time to drive the course and check out the damage. like you say, most of the roads are fine. noticed dripping ice/snow and temp of 43. i forgot my jacket so hope it is warmer tomorrow. i'll park at the park tomorrow since i want to both bike and run, assuming I have it in me...

i am definitely not the right person to ask about you running tomorrow.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Tsunami] [ In reply to ]
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Well I made it up my hill. It was slow, my muslces in my lower back, glutes and hamstrings are killing me, but I feel like I'm getting this old body ready to race.

Steve Schallancamp laid out such a beautiful course yesterday, it was hard to believe I was on the same mountain as AZ. Steve's course was not a walk in the park but compared to it, AZ course is like stapling your sack to the floor and standing up!!

Are you rding today?

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Yesterday I did 76 miles with 8000 ft of climbing and a 9 mile run with 600 ft of climbing.

Being from Ohio, pretty hard to find long big hills so ride up and down the smaller ones we do have. I did get some 15% grades, just not for very long.

I just hope its enough for this old guy to survive and finish LC. Some race to check off a bucket list item, some race to quiet inner demons, some race for the competition, for me I am hoping for no more than 3 people in my age group because I am racing simply because I can and for the beer mug.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [CBJFan] [ In reply to ]
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Looks to me like you will be coming in right on schedule. Everyone has a different way of training for it, but I think you just have to keep climbing and everything will fall into place. It's just 5 weeks away, three more weeks of hard training and 2 to taper. It's a great race, and a fun time. I've only done short course and this year I'm stepping it up to F1. I'll see you there.

How old are you? I'm 65

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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I am in the 50-55 grouP
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [CBJFan] [ In reply to ]
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Hi all,
I sadly am going to miss this race so a friend will be taking my place.
I have tried the website contact information to no avail, yet.
Anyone know a different route to have this completed?
Thanks!
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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I'll be driving from NYC if anyone needs a lift to or from the race? I'm either going to drive up the afternoon before or just suck it up and go on race morning. Will be driving home again on race day at some point!

I'll have space for one bike on the bike rack and can probably squeeze a second in the trunk if we take wheels off.

Looking forward to the race, and dreading it at the same time :P
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TriCullen wrote:
Hi all,
I sadly am going to miss this race so a friend will be taking my place.
I have tried the website contact information to no avail, yet.
Anyone know a different route to have this completed?
Thanks!

I wrote and got a response within an hour. pipermcgovern at gmail.com
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [chbelair] [ In reply to ]
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I'm official now, look out mid distance nutters! Quick Question, will the wife and kids have fun at the start finish line or do I leave them home? We are close enough to drive day of but I would like to know if it's a family type deal, or leave the brats and dog at home. Weather dependent of course.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [jw67] [ In reply to ]
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It's always a good time for the family. Everything is centered around the pavilion. If you're doing the F1, they'll see you racing 6 times throughout the event. There's lots of camaraderie amongst the spectators. Plus, the venue is just stunning. Lots of space for the kids to run around and play.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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I can see it now, on the back of the T shirt;

''American Ziffingan; it's fun for the Whole family!'' HA!

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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When do we start the smack talk?
I got in my longest run in a few years of 7.25 miles, I'm ready, just gonna sit on the couch now.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [jw67] [ In reply to ]
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I got in my longest run in a few years of 7.25 miles, I'm ready, just gonna sit on the couch now.

Whoa! take it easy there. 7.25 miles, all at once?! You don't want to wear yourself out.

You'll be fine. Just make sure you bring that couch, you'll need it!

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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to be fair I was unconfirmed until yesterday and I had to race bikes all spring. Now to figure out if I'm driving in day of or staying closer to the course

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Looks to me like you will be coming in right on schedule. Everyone has a different way of training for it, but I think you just have to keep climbing and everything will fall into place. It's just 5 weeks away, three more weeks of hard training and 2 to taper. It's a great race, and a fun time. I've only done short course and this year I'm stepping it up to F1. I'll see you there.

Jeez, I just realized its only five friggin weeks to go, I actually peed myself a bit. I still have not wised up as this is my third turn at this beautiful beast of a race. Last weekend, hunted down every little hill and bump here on Long Island to try and get some climbing in. Went about 55 miles and found about 3,000 feet. Oh well, I may have to bite the bullet and venture up to Bear Mountain with some of the real triathletes from LI to get some Zofingen training in...or I could just take my ass whoopin' like a man on the 17th. Probably opt for the latter.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [sevenride] [ In reply to ]
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''Jeez, I just realized its only five friggin weeks to go, I actually peed myself a bit.''

Yes, with the late winter it's coming up quick. Where are you on LI? You can hit the hills around Cold Spring Harbor; Lawrence Hill, Snake, Fish Hatchery (25a), Moores Hill up over and back, and Lawrence Hill. All but Fish are shorter than the AZ climbs but all but Fish are tougher.

Also, if your going to ride Bear Mt, why not just ho ride the AZ course? What is it a half hour further?

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in Holtsville. Those roads are part of my weekly long ride. Also, do Oakwood repeats just outside Port Jefferson. Good point about extra half hour but my schedule is so tight with the kids, I'm probably just going to get out real early next few weeks for some 100 milers. Hope to see you up there.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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65 today. My age, not the temperature. All you young guys in F1 better be out training,

you don't want to get GEEZERED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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First time at the race. Doing long course. Do most people ride their TT or road bikes? I'm not the most comfortable decender on TT.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [chbelair] [ In reply to ]
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Most (and all the fast guys) ride their TT bikes. The first descent can get hairy but there are ample aero opportunities on the back side.

Full disclosure, I ride my Tarmac. My 2006 Cervelo Dual hasn't left the trainer in years. I'm just much more comfortable on my roadie. And I'm slow. No matter what I ride.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [chbelair] [ In reply to ]
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On a TT bike with aero wheels and helmet, you will hit 50mph no problem on the first drop. There are two turns on the way down and then a 90* turn at the end. After the climb to Minniwaska there is a lot of high speed stuff, but not so fast that you should be uncomfortable. Then there's the final climb back to transition. Most will be on tri bikes, you should choose the bike you feel best on for this course and that you can run best off of.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [chbelair] [ In reply to ]
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This question is asked every year, and the answer is always - Time Trail bike. If going over 50 mph makes you nervous, ride the bull horns and let your chest catch wind. You'll drop below 45. And the 50+ bit is straight as an arrow. You'll be fine.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [jw67] [ In reply to ]
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Seems like transition area is a pleasant place to be. Just realize there are no amenities (other than flushing bathroom) other than what you bring along. So you want lawn chairs (and shade tent?), frisbee or something to keep kiddos occupied (after they get done hiking), cooler with food/drink unless you want to drive out of there and go to town. I like this event and still think I might shoot myself if I were just waiting around for a long course finisher to do their thing. But part of this might be that I don't sit still very well.

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The whole famdamily will be there dog included, that should be entertainment enough, I keep trying to scare them away but it's not working !

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The whole famdamily will be there dog included, that should be entertainment enough, I keep trying to scare them away but it's not working !

oh!!! should I bring my lab?? he would love a playdate
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Bypasskid] [ In reply to ]
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Kids and dogs are welcome. They don't call it the million dollar view for nothing. They'll be mesmerized by the scenery, then caught up in the constant action on the field of battle. The rare quiet moments will be punctuated with semi-drunken bagpiping, snake charming and bear bating. If that doesn't work, there's always the beer - what kid doesn't love beer?

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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So, here's the deal. Your morbidly obese, has-been race director intends to waddle his fat ass through the Rock the Ridge 50 Mile trail race next Sunday. Like AmZof, it's a (much more successful) fundraiser for the Mohonk Preserve. The more money I raise through Crowdrise - https://www.crowdrise.com/...raiser/johnmcgovern1, the more money I'll have left over to buy you wankers beer. So, please consider kicking in the minimum donation. You know you're going to drink AT LEAST that much, post race. Murphy, the way you drink my beer, kick in $100. American. Not that Cannucky loonie crap.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [meuf] [ In reply to ]
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20 days to do, I hope you at least got you bike out of storage and checked the tires for cracks.

Have you found your running shoes yet?

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [chbelair] [ In reply to ]
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First time at the race. Doing long course. Do most people ride their TT or road bikes? I'm not the most comfortable decender on TT.

just make sure your brakes really work :D

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So, here's the deal. Your morbidly obese, has-been race director intends to waddle his fat ass through the Rock the Ridge 50 Mile trail race next Sunday.

See ya there, will be doing it also...and have only run this year (Okay, one terrible 36 mile ride). AmZof is going to be interesting...
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [steelerguy] [ In reply to ]
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It should be a great day. The trails are in good shape. Current forecast is lovely for a picnic, maybe too warm and sunny for running 50 miles?

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Current forecast is lovely for a picnic, maybe too warm and sunny for running 50 miles?

Forecast seems to be sticking with Partly Cloudy to Overcast with a high of upper 60s. I figure at the exertion level I'll be at, I won't get too hot until maybe later in the day. Good motivation to finish faster, although a beer (or 5) at the end is a better motivator. Honestly, having never done anything over a marathon (at least running wise), the last half could turn into a picnic and leisurely stroll for me.
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Accuweather forecast for May 17:



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tetsuoni wrote:
Current forecast is lovely for a picnic, maybe too warm and sunny for running 50 miles?


Forecast seems to be sticking with Partly Cloudy to Overcast with a high of upper 60s. I figure at the exertion level I'll be at, I won't get too hot until maybe later in the day. Good motivation to finish faster, although a beer (or 5) at the end is a better motivator. Honestly, having never done anything over a marathon (at least running wise), the last half could turn into a picnic and leisurely stroll for me.

so you decided to do it after all?
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It should be a great day. The trails are in good shape. Current forecast is lovely for a picnic, maybe too warm and sunny for running 50 miles?

Good luck tomorrow, John. You'll have a great day for it. Give em hell!

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keep dreaming lol

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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Murphy, the way you drink my beer, kick in $100. American. Not that Cannucky loonie crap.

I HEARD THAT!
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [CeeCee] [ In reply to ]
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because I am TOTALLY insane I not only ran the Paris marathon on April 12th but then ran another marathon last weekend (NJ Long Branch). Did first bike ride on trainer this morning.

oh and will have to drive up the nigh before from CT where my son in lead in school musical - this should be interesting....
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It should be a great day. The trails are in good shape. Current forecast is lovely for a picnic, maybe too warm and sunny for running 50 miles?

Missed ya at Rock the Ridge. Was a great event...I discovered 50 miles is exponentially harder than 26. I see a drop to short course at AmZof in my future...
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Life got in the way. At least my entry fee went to a good cause. You can change your field up to Wednesday before the race. See you soon.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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2 questions

Is the fire affecting the race
and can my dogs run the second loop? No is fine just asking
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [meuf] [ In reply to ]
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The fire is not affecting the race. It's many, many miles away.

I personally have no problem with the dog running with you, as long as it's on a leash.

We'll need to check with the head ranger race morning to make sure it's o.k. with them.

JM

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IDK about your dogs, but dogs I've run with seem to need to poop. Either making sure it happens pre-run, or it happens in-run. So for a race this would seem super non-ideal to me. YMMV.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Tsunami] [ In reply to ]
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Trail runs my pups are usually off lead so they are off the trail for such events point taken if they have to be on lead no
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I am coming in a couple days before the race and want to at least drive the bike course maybe ride a section. I can't find cue sheet, can someone give me the turn by turn ?
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [CBJFan] [ In reply to ]
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The online directions on the CM2 website don't seem to be working. I did find a couple of maps on Mapmyride and Mapmy run

http://www.mapmyride.com/...ourse-route-31754980

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check it out on my strava account.

https://www.strava.com/activities/142984652



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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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A little more than a WEEK! I guess I should make sure the brakes on the TT bike will actually stop me, not that I plan on stopping.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [CBJFan] [ In reply to ]
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Cue sheet from the CM2 site:


Start at Spring Farm Pavilion
.24 Make a left on Mountain Rest Road

3.17 Make a right on Butterville Road

1.59 Make a right on Rt-299

3.6 Make a right on Rt- 44/55

8.83 Make a sharp right on Lower Granite Road

.97 Bear left onto Granite Road

3.26 Go straight onto Towpath Road

3.46 Bear Right onto Co Road 6 or Clove Road

1.9 Bear right onto Old Clove Road

.19 Bear right onto Mountain Rest Road

1.19 Turn left into Spring Farm Trailhead


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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There's a mistake in the Q sheet;

''8.83 sharp right onto Lower Granit''

The sharp left is onto Granite, and it's the correct turn for the course. Lower Granite comes in from the left about a mile later where the sheet says to bear left.

Just want to clear up any confusion.

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But the turn at 8.83 miles is a sharp right, whatever the name of that road is. That's where one of the aid stations is, once that turn is executed.

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correct. The Q sheet makes it confusing because Lower Granit is the next right turn off of 44/55

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10 days...

I think is time to get back to running again; maybe I even get the bike out the basement.

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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Relaxxxxxx, you've still got plenty of time!

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [LuisDF] [ In reply to ]
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Effectively on a 5 week training plan. No time to taper.
Ran up some schoolyard stairs this morning. So there's that.
Won't to it again. I'll call that my taper ;)
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what is the payout for the win in F1? Will I make my entry back? Do you think I should run a 12-36 cassette? What tire pressure is everyone running. Will there be neutral support? can I bring my pet Lyger?

Seriously, If I drive up the night before, where should I sleep in my van?

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There's a municipal lot behind the Gilded Otter. Get yourself a local craft beer before you catch a few zzz's.
I'm not sure you can/should get into Spring Hill Farm after dusk.
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jw67 wrote:
Seriously, If I drive up the night before, where should I sleep in my van?

In the back of it. Driving seat too uncomfortable and will still be too brisk to sleep on the roof. I'm here all day folks.
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I think most people run 11/21

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Park in the lot of the Econolodge in New Paltz. There is a ballet right next door. Probs no craft beers served there though....
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Seriously, If I drive up the night before, where should I sleep in my van?

I've never tried to sleep in the public lots in town, but I wouldn't be surprised if you got rousted in he middle of the night. Every hippy in New York has probably tried it at least once. I would go park by the yellow church that Tetsuoni recommended for those riding the course. Hikers park there all the time. Go right out of transition, backwards on the course for about a mile. Nice and quiet also.

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These are good questions I hadn't thought of before. Here's one, should I use clipless pedals, or will just sneakers be ok?

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better question:

are we running 5 miles or 8 miles like last year?

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That's up to you.
There's 4 climbs on the course.
At the top of each, TAKE A LEFT.
The 3rd climb, below the cliffs, you'll take a right to keep climbing where it levels off a bit, but then it's a LEFT.
Current forecast for next Sunday is sunny and hot.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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still packing the car for all weather.....
my legs are toast from Paris and Longbranch marathons.....
tomorrow will be first real bike ride of the season.
starting bike training the week before is ok right?
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Yes, you must train very hard this week.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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tetsuoni wrote:
Yes, you must train very hard this week.


you sound like the coach who wrote the training plan I am using for July's HIM - he seems to have ignored the back to back marathons....
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Get a new coach. Here, I'll volunteer - It's Saturday night, carbo load with beer and get laid.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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On race day my wife and daughter will be coming. They are being dropped off by a friend, will they be able to get into the parking area or will they have to walk in from the main road ? If so how far is the walk ? They will be coming after the race has started.
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Are you still taking coaching clients? :)

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [CBJFan] [ In reply to ]
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If they're not entered in the race, they can still park nearby by paying a nominal fee that goes to a good cause. Only about a 1/4 mile walk to the transition area.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Twilkas] [ In reply to ]
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Absolutely not

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tetsuoni wrote:
Get a new coach. Here, I'll volunteer - It's Saturday night, carbo load with beer and get laid.

part one done
need to work on part 2
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oh well, i'll take the free advice posted above then, and count myself lucky.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Took the bike out for a last long ride. What started as a ticking when I turned the pedals turned into a major racket in the bottom bracket area. These press in BB's stink. If this was a Shimano, I would have a new one in already. Took it to Brickwell Bikes in Syosit. They said they can get to it today. Hope they have it fixed by race time.

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Good luck!

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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I'll take another sunny & hot over rain & cold, I s'pose... Murphy's Law most likely would disagree.

where do I submit my official request to change divisions?

Otherwise, annual pre-race freakout to commence - NOW! I may need to try Callum Millward's raw chicken diet to get down closer to race weight.
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Indeed, full panic mode has yet again kicked in with respect to the impending LC disaster about to befall fat me. However, to allay these panic attacks I have self medicated with a steady rate of quality IPAs to include the highly coveted Heady Topper, Montauk's Session IPA and my new fav SingleCut Beersmith's Full Stack. Ambrosia of the Gods. I'd much prefer hot and hellish to cold and raining. This flat lander from Long Island is ready to take his medicine this Sunday.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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tetsuoni wrote:
Good luck!

Thanks, regarding your new coaching service:

''Get a new coach. Here, I'll volunteer - It's Saturday night, carbo load with beer and get laid.''

Sounds like exactly the kind of coaching I've been looking for, if you throw in a few Bagpipe lessons, I'm in!

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Yesterday I tried out the second batch of Sweeney's Secret Sauce (open source racing fuel); Perpentuem mixed with Mountain Dew. Tastes great, more filling. You get all the good stuff from Hammer Nutrition with the kick of Doing the Dew!

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Ok, the bike is out the basement... tomorrow I will clean the chain and maybe Wednesday I will ride it for first time this year.

:)

Hot weather in the forecast YAYYYYYY!

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I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Perpetuem = pancake batter mix (which no one should be drinking)
Perpetuem + Mtn. Dew = Pancake batter mix that a horse pissed on.
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cyfac06 wrote:
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Perpetuem = pancake batter mix (which no one should be drinking) ''

You didn't mix it strong enough. One scoop in a bottle tastes like wallpaper paste, four scoops and it starts to taste good, six scoops; yum


''Perpetuem + Mtn. Dew = Pancake batter mix that a horse pissed on.''

In the old days of running Ultras, you would run up to an unmaned table with water, Mountain Dew, boiled potatoes and a bowl of salt. Dip the potato in the salt, wash it down with the Dew and keep going!

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Can someone please direct me to the AmZof pre-race smacktalk thread?

I can't seem to find it anywhere.

Thanks much,
ML


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Not needed, I'm racing and everyone is scared

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Not needed, I'm racing and everyone is scared


Ah, so that explains it.


My only objective for Sun is to take back the Mohonk descent KOM, and then drink lots of Tetsuoni's beer and heckle the LC racers.
With standards as low as mine, I'm rarely disappointed.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Any idea how many are doing the LC this year?

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [sevenride] [ In reply to ]
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Dunno.

I do know that Colin Martin will be back to defend his LC title.
Beyond that - you'd hafta ask Tetsuoni.


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I only have to be a few seconds faster to take you out ML! Unfortunately im a few lbs lighter this year, so its not looking good.

Also, im only in for middle distance this year. Tired of the long course. I want beer earlier.
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IT'S ALIVE!!!
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I actually am tapering for this race, I should be a pretty cheap drunk. I'm in for heckling

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I only have to be a few seconds faster to take you out ML! Unfortunately im a few lbs lighter this year, so its not looking good.

Also, im only in for middle distance this year. Tired of the long course. I want beer earlier.

Smart man. More beer and earlier is always the right call.


I just threw on an 11t on the DreamCrusher Express (tm) - as I plan on actually pedalling this time going down Mohonk, instead of just coasting.
That sonic boom you'll be hearing is me breaking the mythical 3 minute barrier.


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I actually am tapering for this race, I should be a pretty cheap drunk. I'm in for heckling

I have nothing to taper from. I've been tapering since this time last season.


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cyfac06 wrote:
IT'S ALIVE!!!

This remains to be seen. We'll know better shortly after 8am on Sunday.

Somebody had to get this party started. What a snooze-fest.
C'mon people! Let's hear a little chatter out there.


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I'll take another sunny & hot over rain & cold, I s'pose... Murphy's Law most likely would disagree.

where do I submit my official request to change divisions?

Otherwise, annual pre-race freakout to commence - NOW! I may need to try Callum Millward's raw chicken diet to get down closer to race weight.

You are correct, sir! Yes!

Looks like we both might get our wish - warm, but a chance of rain.




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Whoa, thanks for dropping in.

It's good to see another 65 year old in the race!

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I'll have to ask my wife for my balls so I can try to beat that! Its been a few years since I've been out there

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we won't know until race morning but it does look like we might get a bit of rain.

I wouldn't mind dry/hot weather tho :)

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They're dropping like flies. I'm inundated with course change requests.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Got the bike back last night. New BB and shift cables, and bike tuned. Everything is ready to do.

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I'll add to your pile of change requests - I'd like to move up to LC from F1!!

How far away is the nearest hospital?
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tetsuoni wrote:
They're dropping like flies. I'm inundated with course change requests.

u should have a 50$ drop out fee ;)

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I'm just plain too dumb to drop down to the F1. Moreover, I'm 50, fat and flabbergasted that I'm even undertaking this race again...especially with all you culturally devoid Visigoths.

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Have you received your AARP card yet? If you've aged up to the geezer 50-54's I may actually have to root for you to finish top 3 overall. I need a new mug.
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Yes, can you f'in believe it! WTF happened to me? One day I was a young, handsome, fit, smart, chick magnet and now I'm a fat, old, balding, slow thinking, AARP card carrying, oafish troll. Wow, just wow.

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stillrollin wrote:
Have you received your AARP card yet? If you've aged up to the geezer 50-54's I may actually have to root for you to finish top 3 overall. I need a new mug.

Nope - this is my last season in pre-AARP.


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Meant for ML since we are both in for CWD.

But, I was going to thank you for making me feel smart for knowing my limits. Good luck - you're nuts.
I will enjoy watching you stagger through the pavilion ;)
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Sweeney wrote:
Whoa, thanks for dropping in.

It's good to see another 65 year old in the race!

Sweeney! Woot! That's the spirit!
Bring out the gimp!!!


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Ah, mea culpa. I have now lost my ability to read and comprehend. It's a sad day. .. Not as sad as it will be Sunday as I stumble around that course. Good luck SR and ML. See you bastards at the pavilion.

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sevenride wrote:
Yes, can you f'in believe it! WTF happened to me? One day I was a young, handsome, fit, smart, chick magnet and now I'm a fat, old, balding, slow thinking, AARP card carrying, oafish troll. Wow, just wow.

Are you kidding? It only starts at 50. I was doing great at 50, then fell apart in my middle 50's. Now I have more bionic parts than original equipment.

Still a chick magnet though!!

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [LuisDF] [ In reply to ]
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Damn, that guy looks just like me. Is that you ML hanging on my arm?

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pipermcgovern@gmail.com for field change requests

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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My only goals this year is to find that infamous "kill shack" and avoid what I thought was a chupacabra on the final run lap last year-though it could have been some poor soul who failed to respect the AMZOF.

Damn people, you should only be able to change to long course.

I'm expecting cold and rain in the morning and hot an humid for the run-if you're gonna suffer you might as well do it right.
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the most important question...
What kind of grub are we (all the short course People) gonna be eating?

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the forecast is pain.... wear your big girl panties

"if you chose it, it's not really pain"
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d-elvis wrote:
the forecast is pain.... wear your big girl panties

Shirt slogan???
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stillrollin wrote:
d-elvis wrote:
the forecast is pain.... wear your big girl panties

Shirt slogan???

If it's not, it aughta be.


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In the 1st ten years of AmZof, only one bad ass switched up in distance. Take a bow, Billy Hafferty.

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Main Street Bistro

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2016

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2016

Damn, now I gotta come back. Was contemplating "retiring" on Sunday. Oh well, guess I'll stay retired from everything but AmZof.
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Just wanted to say that Chris Gleason will be on my mind as I drag myself around those hills Sunday. Great athlete and even better man.

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He'll be on my mind as well.

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I can live with warm and rainy... preferably without the suck-the-shoes-off-your-feet kind of mud.
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I can live with warm and rainy... preferably without the suck-the-shoes-off-your-feet kind of mud.

Oh, we'll have some of that for you too!
It's not the full AmZof experience w/o some muddy field action.


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I'll give you credit - it takes a special attitude or level or stupidity to want to make AmZof more difficult than it already is without rain, bears, etc. Special as in short bus special, fwiw.
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Good news - I took delivery of a crate of snakes today. There weren't enough on the run course when I did recon recently.

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Good news - I took delivery of a crate of snakes today. There weren't enough on the run course when I did recon recently.

Excellent! No wussification of tri duathlon on your watch.


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Good news - I took delivery of a crate of snakes today. There weren't enough on the run course when I did recon recently.


I hope the thunderstorms don't wash away the snakes;



Just to be clear, we pick up race packets on Sunday morning, right?

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Just saw on the website that we pick up at the ''corporate offices'' on Saturday, which suit?

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I don't like your weather, Mine says no rain. I don't care either way. I'm hoping the family stays home as to not witness my incredible explosion somewhere mid run #3

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Pick up will be 4 - 6 pm Saturday at the pavilion, and race morning.
Arrive Sunday morning between 6 - 6:30 am.
Long course starts at 7, F1 @ 7:30 and SC @ 8.
I haven't been using the website and there's old info there. I'll try to update it asap.

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We need some fans to show their enthusiasm along the course:



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forecast: Rain for Sat AND Sunday... uhmmmm

bike finally made it to streets... rode 20min for the first time this year; didn't want to over do it cause I am tapering lol

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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Forecast similar to 2013, but warmer - possible rain early then clearing. I've often said setting up transition in the rain is the worst part. Once the gun goes off, rain is just another element to deal with. We pay to play outside, it rains. So what?
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agreed but 2013...



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That was fun! At least it cleared.

In 2010 I did the (now defunct) ITT. 3 of 4 laps in rain. That wasn't fun. I least I didn't have to set up transition ;)
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where are these weather reports, all of mine say sun, sun, sun! Can we order rain for the second and third run?

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2013, I'm still shivering;



just from CWD. My hands are messed up but they were so cold I had trouble getting my shoes on for the second run. When I got home to Shandaken, 36 miles away, it had never rained.

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I called it a day early (DNS) allergies plus weather... didn't feel like suffering that day :)

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I thought the rain was better than the heat of the previous year...plus it washed off the road grime while running.
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That was fun! At least it cleared.

In 2010 I did the (now defunct) ITT. 3 of 4 laps in rain. That wasn't fun. I least I didn't have to set up transition ;)

Pretty sure that was 2011.

2010 was lovely weather - I had a great back and forth duel w John Hirsch in the F1, and the lead LC guys (Josh Beck and Chris Martin) blew our doors off on the bike.
Yoda narrowly avoided getting chicked in CWD.

2011 was Wrath of God.
All the non-ML F1 contenders flatted, so I was able to hold off Rich Burke, at al.
Dunno who did what in LC or CWD.

2012 was lovely again.
Rich Burke dominated F1, Yoda got his 2nd CWD title, and Mitch West was kind enough to relieve me of the "Slowest LC Winner Ever" title.
Thx Mitch!

2013 was the surprise EPIC day - as the forecast as late at 11pm the night before called for "a chance of afternoon showers" - HA!
Rich Burke did Rich Burke things in F1.
Erik R won LC and put himself into the ER doing so.
Kevin Miles demolished CWD.

Last year, all the LC morons went walkabout on the first run.
Rookies.
Colin Martin outlasted the field for LC honors.
Brett Long got his first F1 win after several podiums.
Noob Mike Tanzi demolished the CWD field w a top 3 fastest winning time ever.


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You're right. Memory starts to fade after 50. You'll see :)

Nice recap though. Thanks.
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stillrollin wrote:
You're right. Memory starts to fade after 50. You'll see :)
T
Nice recap though. Thanks.

I was going to contradict you, but.....well, I forgot what I was going to say!

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LuisDF wrote:
tetsuoni wrote:
They're dropping like flies. I'm inundated with course change requests.

u should have a 50$ drop out fee ;)

Well let me get in (out, actually) before a $50 fee is implemented. I won't be there this year. Everybody have a great race, stay safe, and somebody please beat ML.

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Since we're on the topic of how old and forgetful everyone is, I created a Strava segment for the whole run loop just in case you old guys forget where you're going on the run this year. I understand the irony here, since I was one of the ones who led us off course last year, but I can't pass up an opportunity to make fun of you geezers.

https://www.strava.com/...78209?filter=overall

My GPS file included the off-course frolicking on the first lap if you're interested in how dumb we were last year...or rather how long it took us to realize we were dumb (hint, approximately 2.5mi)

Enjoy. Hope to crack a few beers with you all afterwards!
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2013 is the reason I now know I should pack for the apocalypse when traveling for this race.

My apocalypse kit includes:
- spare wheels for inexplicable flatting (and b/c I don't know how to change tubulars)
- clothing to make riding wet at 40 °F fun, or at least survivable
- head and tail lights to make riding wet at 40 °F in the fog safe(r)
- a flute to charm the snakes I hear will be let loose
- mace, in the event of a zombie attack

Hmm, still seems I'm forgetting something.

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for zofingen u pretty much have to pack EVERYTHING!

from 0F to 90F wet/cold/hot/humid gear!

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You forgot huevos grandes.

Can't rip the descents on bike or run w/o huge brass balls.


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Somebody should design a saddlebag in the shape of a nutsack. Much like the ones that hang from obnoxious pickup trucks trailer hitches. If we got them from LLBean, we could all have our initials embroidered into the them to add some panache to your bag.
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2011 Josh Beck kicked ass and took names in the LC race. The friggin rain was brutal. I weeped like a little biach for 84 miles in the rain. The the mud finished me off. Great times!

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You could say the same thing about EVERY year Josh did LC.

What's craziest about that is - he's not a little doode, and not the most aero or best descender, and he has a picnic and a nap in transition.
But man can he climb like a banshee on a bike, and run like the wind off of it.


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LuisDF wrote:
better question:

are we running 5 miles or 8 miles like last year?

I'm gonna run 10 just to be sure. And 21 cassette sounds about right
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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I know the guy was a beast on the hills.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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can we have a real address for the start so I don't get lost in my half awake daze Sunday? Or most likely way over caffeinated nuttiness!

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Oh, good. Heavy rains Saturday = muddy fields Sunday.

Packet pick-up @ Spring Farm is at Saturday 4-6 pm, and race day morning.

Arrive 6 am Sunday. LC is at 7, F1 @ 7:30 and LC @ 8.

NYS Troopers offered a lead car, but I declined, as I know at least Murphy will shatter the speed limit on the descent.

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Another feather in your AZ cap - Director of Marketing, Long Course winner AND Event Historian.

Can you recite from memory my weight on race day for each year? Should go something like 163 from 2005 thru 2010, then 193 thru 2014, and 183 for 2015.

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27 Upper Knolls Rd., High Falls, NY
About a mile down from Mohonk Mt. House entrance.
This is a good address for Mapquest.com

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Oh, thanks, I won't get lost now.

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Drive all the way back into the Preserve. You'll be fine.

At that hour, it's pretty much just us on the road. You'll have someone to follow, I'm sure.

Ah, but you're still going to have the pre-race night-before nightmare where you get lost and miss the start. Yeah, I don't miss those, at all.

Shitty thing is, you kind of get the same nightmares as a Race Director.

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Drive all the way back into the Preserve. You'll be fine.

At that hour, it's pretty much just us on the road. You'll have someone to follow, I'm sure.

Ah, but you're still going to have the pre-race night-before nightmare where you get lost and miss the start. Yeah, I don't miss those, at all.

Shitty thing is, you kind of get the same nightmares as a Race Director.

Yours are probably now more of the 'overslept and miss the start' type. Those are pretty awesome too.


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Good recap based on the limited memory I have. Sorry I won't be joining this year. I was planning a year of "no long stuff," and then unknowingly got into the original Zofingen. I decided to take the bait, so I'm taking a Switzerland vacation in September and will report back which course is harder.

I'm sad to miss this weekend, but hope everyone has an awful (epic) day!
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bltri wrote:
Good recap based on the limited memory I have. Sorry I won't be joining this year. I was planning a year of "no long stuff," and then unknowingly got into the original Zofingen. I decided to take the bait, so I'm taking a Switzerland vacation in September and will report back which course is harder.

I'm sad to miss this weekend, but hope everyone has an awful (epic) day!


Good luck w/ that!

PS - how does one "unknowingly" get into a race like that?

I was planning a year of "no sex stuff" (which is easy as a married guy), but then I unknowingly got into Kate Upton.


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I also hope this Sunday sucks for all of you. If it doesn't it ain't AmZof.
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Weather for Sunday;





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Sweeney wrote:
Weather for Sunday;




I melt in the heat...not good...not good at all. Wife and daughter making it a long weekend in City with friends so we are heading up to NY today, looking forward to meeting you all.
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is there a who's registered list, I should check if I'm actually on it as I did a transfer. Would really be mad to show up and not be on the list, then I have to hunt down the guy, break a toe or two, you get the point.


Hmm two hour drive in the morning or at night?

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is there a who's registered list, I should check if I'm actually on it as I did a transfer. Would really be mad to show up and not be on the list, then I have to hunt down the guy, break a toe or two, you get the point.


Hmm two hour drive in the morning or at night?

I'd imagine 'the guy' currently outweighs you by a stone or 2.
And he wears a skirt.
It's Ulster-tucky - you don't want to be the next gimp.


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I'm from Detroit (ish) rednecks don't scare me


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"I melt in the heat...not good...not good at all."


Ditto.


I can swear it was just yesterday my commuter ferry was stuck in the frozen Hudson. Guess we're skipping Spring this year. Damn.
At lest the beer will taste better!
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Those fellas look like the ones that pick off the weak when they start to walk the uphills...
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Cue sheet from the CM2 site:


Start at Spring Farm Pavilion
.24 Make a left on Mountain Rest Road

3.17 Make a right on Butterville Road

1.59 Make a right on Rt-299

3.6 Make a right on Rt- 44/55

8.83 Make a sharp right on Lower Granite Road (EDIT: Or whatever it's called)

.97 Bear left onto Granite Road

3.26 Go straight onto Towpath Road

3.46 Bear Right onto Co Road 6 or Clove Road

1.9 Bear right onto Old Clove Road

.19 Bear right onto Mountain Rest Road

1.19 Turn left into Spring Farm Trailhead


Will there be markings/signs on the turns?
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''8.83 Make a sharp right on Lower Granite Road (EDIT: Or whatever it's called)''


It's called Granite Rd.

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Re : Will there be markings/signs on the turns?

In my experience, only some of them. I strongly urge you to drive the course before hand and check out the road quality which, when I drove/rode it a month ago, was dodgy for a bit on forgot-the-name-of-the-road. In 2013 I was politely bitched out for being confused about a turn in the fog, with the volunteer reminding me "it's your responsibility to know the course".

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unless is warm too...

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"Unknowingly," as in I did three du's last year that earned me USAT points (didn't know that). Those points qualify people to get into the race (didn't know that either).

PS- glad your personal life is good. I had to "Google" Ms. Upton, and you're way out of your league. If she's spectating on Sunday I might have to drive down.
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We had Des Ficker spectating for AmZof 1.0.

I remember coming into the pavilion and seeing this hottie blonde in a HVTC jacket, and thinking "man, I really need to join that club!"

Bait and switch.
She was there rooting on a friend, and borrowed somebody's jacket.
(Since it was 40 degs and pissing rain all day.)


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Is it too late to have the water stations on the run staffed by the ladies of the local 'ballet'? HEED would never taste sooo good!
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ready.....



"if you chose it, it's not really pain"
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Game on!

Weather seems to be shaping up to be pretty fast bike conditions.
Zoom-zoom!

Plus the threat of rain and T-storms to keep things interesting.

I'll take that every day of the week, and twice on Sunday.


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ready.....


That picture always fills me with excitement and dread....

An AmZof thread is never complete until there is talk of post ( or during ) race refreshments. I will bring some decent beer so the long course studs / poor bastards have something other than PBR to drink. Last year a Two Hearted Ale was sacrificed to the course gods, I will try not to repeat that unfortunate incident.
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2012

"if you chose it, it's not really pain"
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2012

Nice waether? At AmZof?!???!!!

Isn't that against the rules or something?


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Don't you think photographers would know by now not to take a picture as soon as the gun goes off or as soon as people cross the finish line? Nobody wants a picture of themselves being Type A-hole triathletes as they start/stop their fancy watch.
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The registered athletes info is on Active.com

If you did not enter through Active, but believe you are one of the very few transfers / deferrals approved by me, write me at pipermcgovern@gmail.com.

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Have a great race in Switzerland. AmZof is harder, but Powerman is grander.

Our race is merely a humble tribute to Powerman Zofingen.




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You'll fit right in down about Accord.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [dado0583] [ In reply to ]
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Yes. Spray chalk on pavement and big yellow signs with black arrows.

Critical intersections will have police or volunteers.

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The registered athletes info is on Active.com


If you did not enter through Active, but believe you are one of the very few transfers / deferrals approved by me, write me at pipermcgovern@gmail.com.


I hate to be 'that guy', but - don't see the registered athletes info on Active.

Maybe you do, as the RD, but us peons apparenty can't access that same info.
http://www.active.com/high-falls-ny/triathlon/classes/american-zofingen-2015?int=






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You've been "that" guy since 2005.

Can't speak for Active, but all the info is there.

No sense sweating over entry lists - we're like T ball; everyone gets a prize.

Same day, same course, whoever shows up. That's the race.

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Looks like the showers move in Saturday afternoon and leave around 3 am, then start up Sunday around 3pm Sunday.

Race fast and get in before you get wet!

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TGIF, AmZof bitches!

Less than 48 hours to go...
What, me worry?


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EZ, flat trail run this morning.
The exact opposite of Sunday morning's jaunt.

Moody Tongue Sliced Tangerine IPA Growler next to the Gatorade, ready to be packed.

Let's roll!
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Very little wind forecast on Sunday too which is great because it's a flat bike course, right?
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It's net-downhill. Bike and run.

It's the Escherian stairwell of multisport.


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Bike is READY, I'm ready! Bring on the Race!

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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
It's net-downhill. Bike and run.

It's the Escherian stairwell of multisport.


Everyone talks about the first climb and the climb to Minniwaska. The steepest part is that little bump before the final climb back to transition and that final climb is over a mile long. And it guts you before the next run.

I'm on the couch all day today in Shandaken, short run tomorrow. Social Security check came yesterday and I'm ready to go

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Sweeney wrote:
Murphy'sLaw wrote:
It's net-downhill. Bike and run.

It's the Escherian stairwell of multisport.


Everyone talks about the first climb and the climb to Minniwaska. The steepest part is that little bump before the final climb back to transition and that is over a mile long. And it guts you before the next run.

I'm on the couch all day today in Shandaken, short run tomorrow. Social Security check came yesterday and I'm ready to go

The exact spot I met and had a laugh with Chris Gleason. Now, as much as it hurts, I manage a smile.
May he rest in peace.
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Agreed - that little stinger by the chapel sucks hard.

Also, the dirt climb after the Ranger station at the Spring Farm entrance back up towards the pavilion is hateful (Chris G's fave term) at that point.


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Alright ... checking in here. Getting excited about the 2015 version of one of our favorite races (my 7th? Where is the historian?). Not that I read all posts ... but what's up with all the whining? Too hot, too humid, too rainy? And now the hills? Who knew that there are any? What happened to the smack-talk that all of ST loved? Getting older/wiser/slower and more realistic? Just imagining what you guys will be talking about AFTER the race :-) Carry on. Still fun to read.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [baliman] [ In reply to ]
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7th AmZof? How cute.

DO YOU EVEN AMZOF, BRO? DO YOU??

Call me when you hit double digits.


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Ha ... I gather you do short-course? Cute.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [baliman] [ In reply to ]
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You gather incorrectly.
Parenthood must have addled your brain.

4 LC
4 F1
2 CWD (as of Sunday).

I like to diversify my crushing of dreams.
Give the competitors in each field a taste of my dust.


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Aaah ... now you are beginning to sound like you haven't lost it yet ... even though the trend that I see in your history worries me a bit. What comes after two more CWD? Just heckling without racing?
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baliman wrote:
Aaah ... now you are beginning to sound like you haven't lost it yet ... even though the trend that I see in your history worries me a bit. What comes after two more CWD? Just heckling without racing?


Brilliant!!


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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... and the prizes!


"if you chose it, it's not really pain"
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [baliman] [ In reply to ]
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Well, if I'm any example ... then, yes.

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Truth be told, I only have 2 goals left at AmZof:

Win the GCG F1 (again), so I can get my name on the trophy.
Win CWD, so I can complete the hat-trick.

Since I'm unlikely to do the latter this Sun, it means I have at least one more F1 in my future, and at least one more CWD.

Then I'll focus on beer and heckling.
Just like tetsuoni.
Only without the skirt or flabalanche.


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [d-elvis] [ In reply to ]
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It's almost beer:thirty!!

3 for a PB (tm) is in effect.

Please pre-hydrate responsibly.


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [baliman] [ In reply to ]
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It's finally a smack talk thread - YAY - much obliged!
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [cyfac06] [ In reply to ]
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cyfac06 wrote:
It's finally a smack talk thread - YAY - much obliged!

Ah, bugger off! What have you been contributing?

happy now? ;-)


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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
You gather incorrectly.
Parenthood must have addled your brain.

4 LC
4 F1
2 CWD (as of Sunday).

I like to diversify my crushing of dreams.
Give the competitors in each field a taste of my dust.

Get all the dream crushing is done at AmZof prior to Epicman. See you guys in 2.5 weeks or so on Whiteface (hopefully no wrath of god crazy rain again)!

Dev
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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YOU could come down and play at AmZof onea these years. It's not even all that far from Canuckistan to NP.


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I know....no good excuses at this point. I even managed the trail run at Wildflower, (that was big progress with my bad leg). Over in Woodlands Texas this weekend for some heat racing!
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Would love to join you guys some day. But kids too small and LP too far.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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there ya go! I'm simply an AmZof tourist - just happy to be part of the experience
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [cyfac06] [ In reply to ]
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I guess we missed the big rain day by a day :D

did a quick reckon loop on the car yesterday and the roads are pretty good!!!

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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It just poured so hard it woke me up! Rain, baby, rain. And get out of here by tomorrow morning.

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Knock down some pollen! Ready To Kick Murphy Law Ass! I want a mug

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jw67 wrote:
Knock down some pollen! Ready To Kick Murphy Law Ass! I want a mug

Yes.
No.
Maybe*.

* the majority of racers get a mug, unless they have the misfortune of being in a large AG and slow. Or DNF.
Or worse, DNS.


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I'm ready to not walk for a few weeks.

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It's a fine, soft AmZofian morning here today in the Hudson Valley!

Rained hard early, a light mist/drizzle now.
Too bad the race wasn't today.
Woulda been perfect. Oh well.


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Don't worry, there is plety of suffering to be doe tomorrow. 92% humidity to start the race and temp goes to 85 by the finish.

Short, fast run this morning. Shaved. Nothing left to do but load the truck later.

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Oh, the suffering will always be there, weather or not.

Shaved? You going on a date or something?

I'm about to head out for a quick shakedown cruise and T-run.
Then spiff up the DreamCrusher Express (tm) and start packing up gear.

Game on.


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Murphy'sLaw wrote:

Shaved? You going on a date or something? ''


YES, I have a date to embarrass a bunch of young guys!!!!!!!!!

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Sweeney wrote:
Murphy'sLaw wrote:

Shaved? You going on a date or something? ''


YES, I have a date to embarrass a bunch of young guys!!!!!!!!!

So, you're going to the gay bar tonight?
(Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

Bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.


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It's called a "kilt" because that's what happened to the last guy that called it a "skirt".

I have no reply for flabalanche - that I'll just have to own.

Fucker.

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Heading over to Keegans to pick up proper kegs. Apologies for the past 2 years. Having a "real" job for the first time in my adult life kind of threw me off my game there in 2013 / 2014.

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Heading over to Keegans to pick up proper kegs. Apologies for the past 2 years. Having a "real" job for the first time in my adult life kind of threw me off my game there in 2013 / 2014.

Keegan's? Kegs? YES.

I take back every bad thing I ever said about you.

Except flabalanche. Since you own that now.

Now, assuming one keg is Mothers Milk, then that means we'd just need 2 enterprising souls to bring a bottle of Baileys and Jameson, and we'd have all the makings for some KCB's.
Just like olde tymes.


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Oh shit, might need a DD.

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I'll be taking a breathalyzer with me tomorrow. We'll hold your keys until you sober up, or it gets dark.
If you're still drunk at sundown, you'll be sleeping in your car.
We'll return with the keys in the morning.


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Speaking of beer - 3 for a PB (tm) is in effect.

I'm working on some DFH 60 minute IPA.
Hydration and carbo-loading in a delicious 12oz bottle!
It's not just for breakfast anymore.


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Heavy rain is going by, south of Shandaken, right now. If you're at the pavillion, get ready for it.

See you in the morning.

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Wet fields, muddy trails?

I've got just three words for you, Mother Nature:

Bring it.


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Trails will be in great shape tomorrow. Let's all bring it. It will be a day to remember!

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Nighty night, AmZof lemmings! Sweet dreams...


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I wish I could be there, although I won't miss the heat. Everybody hydrate well, race safe, and have fun!

Victor

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This is why it's better to be racing than race directing. Just picked up three kegs for you bastards. You better kill them. That's why you got last minute bottles the past 2 years. All the big talk about drinking, and I end of with half full kegs. There are three full kegs, Hurricane Kitty, Old Capitol and Mother's Milk. Feel free to blend up a "Florida" (Hurricane / Capital) or an "Old Mother". Whatever you drink, drink responsibly, and have a designated driver. And thank the Troopers, Deputies and volunteers on the course; without them, the race wouldn't exist. I don't want to be at roll call at the S.O. Monday morning and hear about some ass hat. Sweet dreams tonight, for tomorrow you shall experience the full force of my sadism.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you Boss! See you in a few hours

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Good morning Zofingites, it's 62 degrees in Shandaken, that means it's probably 67 at the race course and going into the high 80's. This years race will make you wish it was cold and rainy.

It's almost time for the suffering to begin!!!!!!!

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Good morning, one and all! Time to make the donuts.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Game on!


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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wahhhhh I miss you guys...

Good luck and be safe.
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Karl O'Reilly leads F1 into T2 @ 2:08. 3:30 has passed with no 2nd place chaser

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Ralf Warmuth wins Canadian Womens in 2:43:12. That's fast!

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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The much despised Murphy's Law was third overall in 2:55:02. Local stand out Jim Stafford fourth overall into 2:58:34. Russell Marks was second overall in the short course in to 2:51:27. ML reports 55 mph on descent of Mohonk.

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ML reports 55 mph on descent of Mohonk.

55 still didn't get that punk to the top step of the podium.

Go get 'em out there kids!!
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [krol] [ In reply to ]
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Results posting live at PRTIMING.COM

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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What a race, I'll be back hopefully with a back that won't go out. How old am I? Thank you again

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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The CWD winner is a killer cyclist, who has also now apparently learned how to run - at 50+.

I can't wait until I turn 50, so I can get faster too.

Another great day at the races - tough one for the F1 and LC peeps w the heat and humidity.
I was VERY glad to be done after that 2nd run.

I'll post a longer recap later - gonna go jump in the pool to cool off

Great job by JM, Lucy, Kurtis, Tom, and all the volunteers.
Plus Main Street Bistro and Keegan Ales.
Thanks again! See you next year!!!


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Just had dinner. Totally trashed. Have to mow the lawn tomorrow and don't know how I will push the mower. More tomorrow.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you for putting on such a great event. I will be back for my 6th go at it next year.
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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
Great job by JM, Lucy, Kurtis, Tom, and all the volunteers.
Plus Main Street Bistro and Keegan Ales.
Thanks again! See you next year!!!

Awesome group, thank you.
All of which contribute to AmZof being the best value in multisport.
Hands down
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you. Tough day for the racers, but the racers were tougher.

I think we have next year's T-shirt slogan, uttered by a long course finisher from his stretcher on the way to the ambulance - "PR or ER"

BTW, the cops and the rangers are amazed by you all.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Awesome event! I'll be back next year.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [homeloans365] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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My first time and a great experience. I was destroyed by the heat and humidity but got the LC finisher hat. More later.

Thank you for a great race and a friendly environment. I will be back.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [CBJFan] [ In reply to ]
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Well done, on a brutal day. Very few have that hat.

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Given his swim ability, I'm a little worried that ML said he was going to go jump in a pool and we haven't heard from him since...

Hopefully you wore your floaties and are OK. Congrats! I think I'm going to wait until you are 50 and out of my AG before trying a comeback, just gotta make sure Rich doesn't sow up.

Still have my CWD exemption available.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [kdw] [ In reply to ]
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You lucky SOB's. My absence is killing me. I hope they did you proud tetsuoni.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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DNS, DNF, and this year I finally broke the seal I finished plus 3th in my AG!!!! (Long Course)

Do I get a welcome to the fraternity? Ha!

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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kdw wrote:
Given his swim ability, I'm a little worried that ML said he was going to go jump in a pool and we haven't heard from him since...

Hopefully you wore your floaties and are OK. Congrats! I think I'm going to wait until you are 50 and out of my AG before trying a comeback, just gotta make sure Rich doesn't sow up.

Still have my CWD exemption available.

I survived the swim - it was wetsuit-legal.

Not that you're exactly one to talk... pretty sure my HIM swim PB is right around where yours is.

Get yer gimpy ass back down here next year. Talk is cheap.


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [LuisDF] [ In reply to ]
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Great news! I also got the beast off my back from having earlier DNF'd and then DNS'ing F1. And I beat my desired finishing time by over 12 min.

Now is it just me..?. This morning every hair follicle in my shorts and some elsewhere too are all angry. Thought I solved all that a couple of decades ago.
:-/

To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.
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DNS, DNF, and this year I finally broke the seal I finished plus 3th in my AG!!!! (Long Course)

Do I get a welcome to the fraternity? Ha!

Luis, you and, all the long course racers have my ultimate respect. So do all of F1 and CDW racers. What a day, the weather was totally draining. To make matters worse for me, I had a 30 minute, three tube flat change on the road coming out of transition on my second bike loop. But, we made it to the finish on one of the worst days ever.

Congratulations to all, and to John and the family and the staff for another epic AMERICAN ZOFINGEN!

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Any word on the girl (Jill?) that was taken away in the ambulance?
She was having a tough go there in the pavilion for while.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you.

Great event! Very friendly and chilled. I am trashed from the long course. It helped redefine my perception of hard! Would love to come back next year. Might try the short course though :P
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Thank you. Tough day for the racers, but the racers were tougher.

I think we have next year's T-shirt slogan, uttered by a long course finisher from his stretcher on the way to the ambulance - "PR or ER"

BTW, the cops and the rangers are amazed by you all.

What happened to the "put on your big girl panties" thing?

I planned to "PR or ER" the Mohonk descent, but due to the wet roads made the business decision to do neither.


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Any word on the girl (Jill?) that was taken away in the ambulance?
She was having a tough go there in the pavilion for while.

Hope she's ok.
Extreme heat issues like that are not usually an issue at AmZof in mid-may, but yesterday was a scorcher.
Dr Scott got her stabilized as best as he could, but she definitely needed more advanced treatment than what you'd have on location.


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Great news! I also got the beast off my back from having earlier DNF'd and then DNS'ing F1. And I beat my desired finishing time by over 12 min.

Now is it just me..?. This morning every hair follicle in my shorts and some elsewhere too are all angry. Thought I solved all that a couple of decades ago.
:-/

The hair follicles were angry that day, my friends - like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli.


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I don't think my hamstrings are going to forgive me for a while for the combination of races these last 4 weeks I though they would snap on that first climb out of trAnsition

Chapeau to those who did it more than once!!!

Hot and humid!!! Wore the pooches out taking them on the run for second loop and it was totally worth being slowed down the 15 mins or so by them they were spent after that as am I!!!
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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My CWD Race recap:

AmZof is always hard. And special.
Yesterday it was harder than usual.
But mostly I got the race I trained for (5 weeks aint enough). The humidity made me (us) pay in spades.
It was brutal out on the course. Awesome in the pavilion - cool temps, 3 Kegs, great food and kindred athletes.
This was to be my last race ever.


Somehow, I don't think so. When does 2016 registration open?
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Again, as expected, an awesome overall event!! Keeps me coming back every year

"if you chose it, it's not really pain"
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stillrollin wrote:
My CWD Race recap:

AmZof is always hard. And special.
Yesterday it was harder than usual.
But mostly I got the race I trained for (5 weeks aint enough). The humidity made me (us) pay in spades.
It was brutal out on the course. Awesome in the pavilion - cool temps, 3 Kegs, great food and kindred athletes.
This was to be my last race ever.




Somehow, I don't think so. When does 2016 registration open?

LOL!! See you next year!

This time, we'll actually train for it.
Right? Right.


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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I think you mentioned before the race that there was a site we could go to to see pictures. What was it again? It fell out of my head at some point during the sufferfest! I'm guessing it'll be a while before they're up though
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Thank you! An awesome event and now I see why so many keep coming back. I showed up under-trained and not ready for the heat, but still managed to finish the LC despite walking a large portion of the 2nd run. Not so embarrassed with a 28% LC DNF rate, though. Enjoyed the whole experience although my legs are trashed! Your daughters also did an awesome job out there at the aid stations! Thanks again!
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Awesome video on YouTube from the guys yesterday.
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Haha

I am starving today
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MSUtri wrote:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gunker/albums


Photos by Martin Weiner


Awesome! This photo says it all really:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gunker/17804212221/in/album-72157653003537332/
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A ton of pics of Stephanie - hmm, wonder why that is?
;-)


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meuf wrote:
Haha

I am starving today

Just back from lunch at 5 Guys.
Yum!!! : )

PS - was that you who asked who ML was, right before the start?
I'm sorry we didn't get to officially meet earlier at the racks.
I didn't put 2 and 2 together.
As you probably noticed, I'm slightly less obnoxious in person.
Slightly.


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Yes, Martin did a great job!
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Yes that was me

and yeah you are just a harmless old man IRL ;p
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What's the date for 2016?
Wanna see if I can squeeze in a weekend of double
Suffering w gran fondo
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She left the hospital around 2am; she was in good spirit Too!

My friend Kevan needed 3 IV.

Rough day for a lot of people but we had a blast!!!!

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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Glad everything turned out OK for both of them. Man, it was hot out there. Especially right before that last little bump up before the yellow church on the bike. It was like somebody turned on the furnace.

Hopefully she will be back next year to complete this monster.

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homeloans365 wrote:
Awesome video on YouTube from the guys yesterday.

Nice! Good stuff.

I'm never in pics or videos on the bike, since they can't focus on things moving that quickly.


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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We had 2 racers taken by ambulance. I'm informed both received IVs and were released.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [CBJFan] [ In reply to ]
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Well done on a tough day.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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I dumped bottle and bottles of waters on my head... it was HOT and Humid.

On the back side of the loop it was a section that I felt like somebody put a space heater right on my back... ufff

But is was a ton of fun so I will prob be back :)

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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LOL! ML
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AmZof 2015 RR - Executive Summary:
I got the race I trained for.
Fortunately, that somehow/miraculously ended up being 3rd OA in CWD.

Which kept alive my streak of never finishing worse than 4th OA at AmZof, now at 10 for 10.
(4 LC, 4 F1, 2 CWD.)

Longerer, more boringer version:
(no, seriously! REALLY LONG. SUPER BORING!!)

I got the race I trained for. Since AmZof moved to May in 2010, I had 3 years where I got faster each year at the F1/GCG distance.
And it was good. Finished 2nd, 1st, 2nd.
And then, I got old(er) and lazy(er), and a few niggling injuries, and here we are.
I thought I set the bar pretty low last season for lack of proper AmZof training, but apparently I'm mixing limbo into multisport, as I managed all new highs (lows?) of apathy this past winter. Hmmm? Wonder why?

I was able to get out for two recon rides on the course, both of which went fairly well, so I was optimistic I could bike reasonably well. The run would be another thing, altogether.
The run would be another thing.


Showed up on raceday feeling pretty decent, my last few runs had felt like running used to feel like, and my winter training muffintop had eroded fairly well, so I was about as ready as I was going to be.
The DreamCrusher Express (tm) was locked and loaded, and my goal was to try for the Mohonk descent KOM, and not embarrass myself too badly.
It was crazy-foggy on the drive up to NP, at times the visibility was almost zero. Roads were soaked from the overnight rains and humidity, and who knew what the trails might hold? Temps were in the mid-60's at 6am, with the forecast calling for highs in the upper 80's - I was glad I was doing short course, for many reasons.

JM piped the LC racers out with the National Anthem (a pretty solid rendition; waaay better than the cat-strangling from a few years ago), and they're off! AND - they even managed to stay on course this year, so the LC leaders came back in to TA while the CWD racers were still lingering about.

CWD "gun" goes off ("3, 2, 1, GO!") and we're off!
I started off near the front, and we took it fairly steady going across the first field, which was a bit muddy, but nowhere near the shoe-sucking quagmire from some prior renditions. When we hit the first downhill, I punched it and moved up towards the front, since I knew I wouldn't be able to stay with the fastest guys on the climbs.
Which is exactly what happened - got passed by a few guys on the first climb, but then hit the gas on the carriage road descent, and was able to move up again before the next climb. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Another guy went rocketing by on the next climb - vaya con Dios!
During the last descent, I slowly gained on the runner in front of me, and came into T1 in 3rd. Perfect.
36:02, which was a fantasy split for me, given my (lack of) run fitness.

Quick transition, got out ahead of the other guy, but then totally butchered the mount, and he passed me as I got my sh!t together and actually got on the bike. NOOB.
Hit the climb, and my legs were already complaining, and I dropped it into the 27 and tried not to blow up.
That guy on the bike is gapping me, but I'll reel him in later...
(spoiler: NFW. He biked a 1:25. Damn)
Over the top, accelerated into the descent, it's go time!
OK - maybe it's not. The roads are soaked, and that first nasty decreasing-radius L turn sees me sitting up and feathering the brakes. I punched it coming out of the R turn into the straightaway, and got low and thought aero thoughts - but it wasn't enough. Ended up going 3:06, which is solid, but no cigar.
I had said to myself "ER or PR" for that segment - but made the business decision to concentrate on keeping the rubber-side down instead, which was the right call.

Going across 299, I passed another CWD racer, who then passed me back on the climb. So I returned the favor on the descent, and we bounced back and forth like that, until the top of the Minnewaska climb, when I punched it into the descent down past the Million Dollar View(tm) and over the partly repaved roads down towards the hairpin turn onto Granite. Ta-ta!!
Speaking of repaved, the Towpath section had been freshly paved just since the prior week!!! NICE.
Finished up the rest of the loop, but had no gas for the last climbs, and just kinda rode it in, glad to be done w/ the bike. Wasn't sure if I was in 2nd or 3rd, but either way - couldn't ask for any more at this point.
1:33 was a somewhat disappointing split, but whatever.

Reasonably quick T2, and out on the run. Felt ok.
Until the very first hill in the woods, at which point my legs just locked up, and shut down. ARRGH.
Surely you've got to be shitting me!
I'm not shitting you - and stop calling me Shirley.


I "power-hiked" (who am I kidding? Walked.) up the climb, to the carriage road.
Managed to get running again, decently for a bit, but then the legs started cramping up again.
Got to the 2nd climb, and immediately I'm walking again.
Another CWD runner goes guy, moving fast and looking strong.
Hey! I'm walking here!
Nothing I could do about it.

Threw down a Heed and water at the aid station (thanks, Mary!!), and got running again. Moving ok, but legs feel like the Tin Man w/o his oil can. The next climb, same thing.
At least if was nice and cool going up past Bonticou, and I was able to get running again on the carriage road.
Had the annual mental battle about "do I cut the corner here" - and once again talked myself out of that temptation. Another pass of the aid station, and the Heed and water seem to be helping somewhat, so I opened it up as much as I could on the next long carriage road descent.
Got into the last woods section behind the Pavillion, and even that crappy little hill was enough to force yet another walk. Tried not to biff on the last singletrack descent, and then it's the last fireroad and field finish.
Managed to run the whole thing, and was so happy to climb those last few steps into the Pavillion, and DONE.

After a glass of water, I made my way over to the kegs, and started off with an Old Capitol, then tapped the Mother's Milk, and stuck with that for the remainder of the afternoon.
It definitely tastes better out of a Big Honkin' Stein.

It was great to be done, and hang out with old friends and new, swap war stories, cheer and heckle the F1 and LC racers, and bask in the shared accomplishment of having survived such a challenging course, on a difficult day.
Congrats to all the winners, especially the CWD winner Ralf Warmuth, (I was forced to Google stalk, and find out that he's a studly Masters CX and TT rider for many years, who now has learned how to run).
I can't wait until I turn 50, so I can get faster too.

Many thanks to JM, Lucy, Tom, Kurtis, Main Street Bistro, Keegan Ales, NYS Police, the Mohonk Preserve and Rangers, Dr's Scott Costley and David Ness, and ALL the AMAZING VOLUNTEERS who once again made AmZof the awesome experience it always is.

AmZof - where the beer flows like wine.
There's a reason the lemmings flock there every May like the salmon of Capistrano.
The day may come when I can no longer partake in this stupidity - but today is not that day.
I'll see ya next year.

If you've made it this far w/o dozing off, thank you.


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An impressive race nonetheless and Great RR Mike.
See you on the other side of 50 where I hope some of that old guy speed finds me. Redemption in 16!
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Any idea when the final race results will be up on the Yellowjacketracing website?
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homeloans365 wrote:
Any idea when the final race results will be up on the Yellowjacketracing website?

That'd be never. YJR wasn't the timers this year.
Results have been up since Sun on PRTIMING.com

http://prtiming.com


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and the pictures? :D

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [LuisDF] [ In reply to ]
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Here, let me google that for you....

F it. You can scroll back a page or 2 to find it.
I haven't had my coffee yet.


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Murphy'sLaw wrote:
Here, let me google that for you....

F it. You can scroll back a page or 2 to find it.
I haven't had my coffee yet.

ha ha ha

I saw those but as u I didn't get any pics (I don't know why cause I was slow as fuck ha!)

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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ML, what a great race report. What a great race. When you passed me at the top of the Minniwaska climb (I started a half hour before you in F1) you were rocking with second place right on your shoulder and third not far behind.

What a soliloquy. Just like I couldn't match you speed down the front drop, I couldn't match you eloquence and surely never your verbosity.

I just want to tell the tale of my three tube, half hour flat change. Starting the second bike in F1, I knew I had a lead on my competitor in our age group. I've been chasing him for twenty years and I came into T1 close behind him and got some time on him on the bike. I slowed on the second run, yes, I walked on the second run, so starting the second bike I knew I had to get back to work.

Coming down the hill on the dirt road out of transition; PFFFFFT, my front tire blew out. OK, stay calm, just fix it and get going. Got my tube out and the valve fell apart in my hand. Tried, over and over to get it back together, all the time watching riders come down the hill waiting for my buddy. Someone came by with a new tube. Great, I'm back in business. Got in, pumped and Bang! I had pinched the tube. I was about to head back to transition to beg for a tube when my wife came up on her bike. She had ridden over from Shandaken and first I tried to take her front wheel. tI was wider than my old Zipp and the brake on the Kestrel is not easy to adjust, failure. She gave me her spare tube; in carefully, pumped and I was on my way. Still looking over my shoulder. Still had to stop two times, one at the top of the first climb and once on Butterville Rd, to clean my left cleat so I could clip it. Really losing strength by the top of the second Minniwaska climb. Lot's of fun on the way down. The furnace blast on the hill before the yellow church. Transition.

One more run, lot's of walking, hands on knees to help. Final downhill, quads are on fire. Grass, stairs, it's over.

I finished just in time to be another ''Big Honkin Stein''

After eating and watching the long course winners and other studs come in my wife asked me if I was ready to get going. I told her I wanted to wait for Myron to come in. She told me that he packed it in after the second run. He's a smart man.

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The Tale of Dissapoitment: My F1 report

Had a great start, the first run I came into transition second, feeling great
Took my sweet sweet getting on the bike
Passed those who passed me going out of transition
got passed and re passed the same dude a few times
somewhere way the hell up there my back decided that it didn't like me and popped
Tried to stretch it out and kept my pace, got passed by my nemesis again
sat up went easy
passed my nemesis because he broke his aerobar
got to transition in second still
Tried to get my back to work, no bueno
took two advil, pretend to run
found a nice stick to try to make my back work, okay run some the hills are torture so I walk.
run, walk, run
talk my self into keeping it up, finish no matter what.
Get into transition, lay down to stretch out my back, cobra pose, ect.
This is where I try to stand, not easy. I call it a day. Not happy, not happy at all.
Bonus I get two aspirin, great food and even better Beer. I watch you all race for a few then make my way back home super bummed out.
But Now I must destroy the race, next year I will win the F-1

Super fun race, so hard, great beer and Lamborghinis on the way home! Did you all see all the Lambo's?

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I saw the Lambo's!!!

Races sometimes don't go the way we plan so u were smart calling it a day.

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I have been racing for a long time, the back has never been an issue. I got run over in a fatal crash at a Crit a few year back, I think that is the root cause but I must rebuild. Oh well Northeast Du Championships in a month. #baconpower

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Jill is doing fine-she had low magnesium & calcium levels so had to stay a while at hospital. She did have heat exhaustion but was not really dehydrated. For what it's worth, this was Jill's 3rd AMZOF long course in a row and she had recently completed a 6-hr ultra in March (she's done many, many IMs successfully) so she was in shape to race and is known for her excellent preparedness and pacing. This was a combination of the heat/humidity and a medication that she is taking. The lack of hot/humid days in Rhode Island this year did not give any indication of this issue in training . Trust me I know because we live together.

I was the other one-extremely dehydrated-3 liters later I was released. I have never dehydrated in the past in any race (3rd AMZOF LC as well). Once it hit me I didn't have the wherewithal (or the stomach) to correct it properly so I suffered through it til the end and finished as strong as I could.

I just wan't to say thank you to Dr.Scott and John M. for being aware and attentive to our needs and getting us the help we needed. The staff and racers at AMZOF are truly special people and you can bet your ass we'll be toeing the LC line again next year.
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I leant a hand getting Jill into the pick-up truck and was concerned for her.Thanks for update, I'm glad to hear you're both ok.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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Zofingen Race Report!!!

http://luisrauldefreitas.blogspot.com/2015/05/2015-zofingen.html

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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jw67 wrote:
The Tale of Dissapoitment: My F1 report

Had a great start, the first run I came into transition second, feeling great
Took my sweet sweet getting on the bike
Passed those who passed me going out of transition
got passed and re passed the same dude a few times
somewhere way the hell up there my back decided that it didn't like me and popped
Tried to stretch it out and kept my pace, got passed by my nemesis again
sat up went easy
passed my nemesis because he broke his aerobar
got to transition in second still
Tried to get my back to work, no bueno
took two advil, pretend to run
found a nice stick to try to make my back work, okay run some the hills are torture so I walk.
run, walk, run
talk my self into keeping it up, finish no matter what.
Get into transition, lay down to stretch out my back, cobra pose, ect.
This is where I try to stand, not easy. I call it a day. Not happy, not happy at all.
Bonus I get two aspirin, great food and even better Beer. I watch you all race for a few then make my way back home super bummed out.
But Now I must destroy the race, next year I will win the F-1

Super fun race, so hard, great beer and Lamborghinis on the way home! Did you all see all the Lambo's?


I've never been somebody's nemesis before! This is more exciting than even finishing my first F1 race! Sorry about your back mate. I thought something might be up when I didn't see you behind me on the far side flats. We were going steady for the front half, I wondered if something had happened. Maybe I'll be your nemesis again next year :) It's a sick, terrible, addiction we have to races like these.


Here's my brief summary -

  • 1st F1 race, 3xLC finisher. So, F1 should be easy! oops...
  • Run 1 felt great. Chatted with Karl O'reilly on the first few climbs and shared some friendly advice about not cooking the goose too early. Meanwhile, my HR is skyrocketing on the climbs with the humidity.
  • 37min for Run 1 was a PR and probably a little too fast, but I was still confident in being able to race the whole "short" F1 race.
  • Like ML, I also had good intentions of hitting the Mohonk descent with aplomb, but to no avail given the conditions. Keep the rubber side down.
  • As any good nemesis does, I kept pace with 2nd place all the way to the Minnewaska climb, then I put the hammer down on the descent towards Granite
  • Hit some rough roads before the turn on Granite rd and my right VukaClip aerobar came a bit loose. NBD, this has happened before, just hand tighten and keep riding, avoid potholes and rough spots while in aero.
  • Pushed hard on Granite Rd and the far side flats, but did not heed the "BUMP" road sign and heard a CRACK and my aerobar popped out of vukabullet body. If not for PVC computer mount zip tied between bars, aerobar would have fallen into front wheel. I thought it was broken and I was donezo.
  • Soft-pedaled for about 15min before I realized everything was intact and I could just put it back together. Debated DNF-ing (should I ride a loose aerobar again?) Reassembled and pushed hard toward Clove Church climb (Strava PR for me!) and climb back to Transition.
  • Resumed my role as nemesis as I caught 2nd place in transition. 1:35 ride, not bad, given the time lost soft-pedaling.
  • Run 2 felt decent. Jog climbs, open it up on carriage road descents, didn't fall on technical descent before field (success!) 38min, not bad, holding steady. HR was still higher than it should have been.
  • Bike 2 started well. Heat was starting to be a factor and power was about 15% lower than Bike 1 on Mohonk Climb.
  • Pushed hard on front half to see if I could find Karl O'reilly near the top of Minnewaska - no luck.
  • Quads started cramping when climbing out of saddle. Avoided rough road areas and checked/tightened aerobar every 5min.
  • Guzzled two water bottles and two GUs at Granite Rd to get some calories down.
  • Several more gels before reaching Clove Church and I was able to climb without cramping again.
  • Back into Transition with a 1:37 bike 2. Still good. 4min back from 1st place. Maybe I could run someone down for the first time in my triathlon career?
  • WRONG!@!$#!% Quads cramped on climbs, back was incredibly sore on downhills. Didn't know if I could make it 5mi.
  • Water, gel, water, gel, heed at aid station and I was barely able to jog without puking.
  • The rest of the run/walk/shuffle was a complete sufferfest. Focused on running 100 strides at a time. If I felt good, I would do another 100, if it was awful, I'd walk 10-15. Hoped and prayed I wouldn't get caught by 3rd place. Goose was thoroughly cooked, blackened, charred, and crispy at this point.
  • Made it through the first field and didn't see anyone behind me so I took a little walk break before jogging it into the finish for 2nd OA. 50min for the last run...woof.

Overall a good day given the ups and downs (literally and figuratively) on the day. I went back and forth quite a bit about DNF-ing after the aerobar incident as I was just thankful that I stayed upright. I was happy to be done when I saw Colin Martin suffering through the LC. 3 burgers and 2 beers later I headed home after yet another wonderful year of suffering at the Mohonk Preserve.
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Another great time at AmZof this year. I was signed up for F1, but after almost exclusively running while training for Rock the Ridge 50 miler which was a couple weeks before...I decided I best drop down to CWD (kudos to baliman who stuck with F1). Was definitely the right call, not only because of the heat and humidity that came on later in the day but because 3 bike rides doesn't cut it. First run went pretty well, but even with all the running, the extra winter weight was felt on the hills...wasn't quite able to hang with the real fast guys. The bike went pretty much like I expected...it was hard. Got what looks to be a pinch flat making the hair pin turn at the bottle swap, better than a couple mins early flying down Minnewaska. Knew my time was out the window at this point, so just chatted with the station workers and took my time fixing the flat...7 mins later (yeah, I should work on that) was back on the bike. Actually enjoyed the back half of the course, I'm usually suffering pretty good at this point so I don't look around much, this time I was able to look around and appreciate it. I didn't feel so bad getting off the bike, but I paid the price for not riding when the hills hit on the second run. Quad cramps and lots of uphill walking. The heat was killing people though, so was still able to pass a good number of people and somehow snuck in at 3rd in my AG and was able to drink some Hurricane Kitty from a stein.

Thanks to all the organizers and volunteers. Another great day, maybe next year I'll ride my bike before the race and see if it helps...
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nemesis is such a better name than mark or rabbit or that dude who is gonna pass me! I should have put the 11-28 on.

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there was a dude that was in him small ring on the front big on the back climbing out the saddle way before we hit the back side of the loop... I tho "this man is in for some suffering..."

11-28 with 50-34 on the front and I started to search for the "ghost" gear during the last loop lol

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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I ran 11-25 cassette with a 54-39 up front but 170 cranks. I am a strong climber as long as my back is not going out.

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What's with all the flats this year?

In general, the roads were better than they've ever been.
The dirt section in and out of TA was the smoothest I've ever seen it.
The upper and lower parts of the Minne descent (that prior were like a minefield) were repaved late last year.
And Towpath was freshly repaved in the past week!

The only part that was worse for wear was the part from W Trapps lot (after the Iron bridge) past Peterskill.
But even that wasn't really any worse than pretty much all the other roads in the Hudson Valley these days.

I run clinchers w 105 PSI F, 110 PSI R, and haven't (insert loud knocking on wood sound here) had any of those issues.

Steer around the cracks and potholes, people.


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Nice report, here's mine for LC:

  • Got there the day before to get my number. Refreshed at how easy it all was compared to branded races.
  • Got there 30 minutes before the 'gun' on race morning, time for a quick poo and rack my bike. Everyone there seemed laid back and cool. One dude has his transition stuff in a 6pack beer cardboard holder (not sure what to call it) and appreciated the differences between that and an IM race ("dude check out my transition bag, it has 12 compartments and only cost $180 - bargain).
  • Thankfully someone pointed out I didn't have a timing chip, although that meant disrupting the national anthem (on bagpipes!) - apologies.
  • Goal was to take the first lap of run and bike easy. Saw people walking up the hills so decided to do the same (so glad I copied early on!).
  • First lap of the run felt ridiculously easy! Well signed and fun course - a couple short flat sections where I could run normally, but the rest was all walking uphill or trying to fall gracefully downhill at speed. Was pulling muscle man poses and stuff for the photographers.
  • The initial portion of the bike was fun, I kind of enjoy the more technical stuff like the gravel. Felt safe going reasonably fast until there was a car coming up the track :P
  • Initial uphill didn't feel ridiculously hard but there were a few ramps where I had to work hard just to get over them. Immediately realised I had picked the wrong gearing setup (53/39, 11-28) and overestimated my climbing ability! Was still able to pull out a few poses for the cameras.
  • Had driven the wrong course the day before; shortly after passing the Mohonk Preserve entrance I was flying down a road at 40-50mph wondering if I was going to have to turn round and go back up. Slowed down for a minute to wait for another rider so at least we'd be in the same boat. Eventually realised I was on the course!
  • Was stalked for practically 1.5-2 laps with some dude in blue behind me. He'd gradually catch up on the uphill and I'd gradually gain on the downhill. He eventually passed me and was also a cool dude.
  • End of Lap 1 thoughts: ouch, that punchy climb near the end of the loop is HARD!
  • Lap 2 thoughts: the initial climb of the loop felt harder than the first, or was that in my head. Yay I only have to do that one more time. Wow, I feel good, this is a good day. Felt good knowing I knew the course this time round.
  • Lap 3 thoughts: that initial climb is getting harder. Woops, I drank all my calories early. Wow I feel s***. My legs won't spin even going downhill. Uh, it's hot. F*** it I'm just going to throw my bike at the pavement. Well, if I do that, walking back is going to be more painful than cycling round. Made a pact with myself to go a little easier on the downhills (going easier on the uphills wasn't an option as I would have come to a halt). Can't wait to be off the bike and on my feet again. I'm glad I haven't seen any more photographers because the before/after comparison is going to be horrific!
  • Back in transition: yay, blueberries for a snack. Everything was in slow motion.
  • Run lap 2 (of 4 total) thoughts: it's amazing how your legs feel refreshed just by changing activity. This doesn't feel too bad. The uphills are kind of like hiking. The downhills are fun. On the 'flat' bits just keep your cadence high - that's the only think you have to do - you can do baby steps if you want. It's hot. Drink as much water and heed as you can stomach! This feels like a sustainable pace.
  • Run lap 3 (of 4 total) thoughts: [after being asked at the end of the lap if I was done] done?! do they think I'm giving up or I'm on a shorter distance. I wish I was done. Those burgers look good. The presence of food and drink on each lap is the real torture. [after falling over on the grassy bit at the start of the lap and hamstring spasming violently] yes! This is the perfect excuse to give up. I don't want to risk injuring myself. Okay, I should at least walk a few steps and see how it feels. Wasn't so bad. Okay, now let's jog a little bit. Crap, it feels okay. I guess I should continue. Walking up these hills are hard - I'm probably going 2mph! Wow it's hot. Am I drinking too much, or not enough. Drink more! Burgers look delicious. Could I eat one and then finish? Prob not, just do the lap then you can eat, nap, etc.
  • Run lap 4 (of 4 total) thoughts: this course is really amazing and I want to bring friends back to do it, but I also never want to see it again. Last time I have to start the run loop. Last time I have to go up this hill. Remember the rules: walk uphill, 95spm on the flats, fall downhill. Think I've been drinking too much. My stomach is kind of full. I'll just keep drinking heed and see what happens. Halfway through the lap I see a friend of a friend walking up the hill behind me - saw him on lap 1 after cramping and figured he'd be way back. Thoughts turned to: keep going and you'll bank some future bragging rights should you ever need them. Don't look back, just keep going. Don't look around just forward. [after looking behind and tripping] idiot! [After reaching the grassy bit at the end of the loop] Wow, I'm almost there. Can I walk the rest? Best to keep 'running' and get it done.
  • After race thoughts: everyone here is cool, but I'm so messed up I can't hold a conversation for more than 60 seconds. Eat some watermelon. Think I'm going to vomit. Walk to the car, lie in the trunk for 30-60 minutes. Go back to the gazebo and vomit (sorry I couldn't make it back to the toilet but at least my aim was good into the trash can). Felt immediately 3x better. Keep drinking water and spend the next 90 minutes attempting to each half a burger. Spend the next 60 minutes wondering what is worse: someone comes to AZ as a spectator and drinks beer and drives home, or someone racing doesn't imbibe but drives home. Eventually feel a bit more human.
  • Drive in the car and stop at Burger King. The only thing I can get down is Dr Pepper. Eat about 5 fries and 3 mouthfuls of chicken sandwich.
  • Drive for 30 minutes and pull into a service station and sleep for another hour in the trunk. Drink really sugary coffee drink.
  • Manage to find parking 2 blocks from my house (which is a miracle) and sit for 10 minutes texting friends to ask them to help me carry stuff up to my apartment. They're all s***bags and kind of enjoy the voluntary state of suffering I put myself into. Eventually manage to get back to my apartment with all my stuff including the large vegetable platter (with hummus) that I had bought before the race thinking that it would be palatable.

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Awesome! Congrats!!


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Nice RR!!!

Agreed on the roads; they were pretty much perfect so perhaps some of you guys just had a bit of bad luck.

I ran 4000s 23mm with latex at 100psi front and back.

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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That was me with the 6pack bottle holder. I use that all the time to transport all my bottles to the transition or bike race ect. Keeps it in order, cheap, and there always seems to be a few around. I am in love with this race now, I have to do it every year now!

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I got a chuckle outta yer 6-pack carrier too.
Noticed that straight away.
You'll fit right in around here - welcome!

Looks like you were having a great race, until yer back acted up.
Bummer.


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Went to the pool today. 20 minutes of aqua-jogging and 20 minutes of easy swimming. First time pushing off the wall was tough but it got better as it went on. When I got out of the pool, I was feeling pretty good. By the time I got home I was like ''the tinman without his oil can'' again.

This is going to take a while.

I knew my quads would be bad, I'm surprised that my upper glutes are just as bad.

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My quads are DONE... I see a lot of recovery in my near future.

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ok, is anyone going to say this?? that cornbread was OUT OF THIS WORLD. I don't think I have ever had anything better. that combined with watermelon and beer made my day.
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Here is mine

First, the most important thing. THANK YOU to the Race organizer, crew, photographer, volunteers, aid station staff, police, medical staff, rangers and anyone else involved in putting this on. It was my first time and I can say that while my race did not go as planned, my experience was more than I expected. Truly fabulous.

My LC race. I was targeting 9:30 leading up to race day but after seeing the weather, thought anything under 10 hours would be very good. It didn't happen but I did finish (Thanks for leaving the lights on for me).

Run 1. Not knowing the course and fearing getting lost and attacked by bears, I wanted to go out in the back of the pack, which I did. Run was right on schedule, except the sweat was already pouring off of me and I knew it was going to be a long day.

Bike Lap 1. I had to stop and fix a minor mechanical at the switch back. Hit a new speed PR coming down Mohonk but couldn't keep my watts in range and my heart rate was way to high.
Bike Lap 2. Feeling better and get into a nice rhythm on the second big climb. Was going ok until disaster hit at about mile 50. My hamstrings started cramping and legs started shutting down.
Bike Lap 3. Started up the Mohonk climb and almost to the top when both legs cramp solid. Cannot turn the pedals and have to stop about 100 meters from the top. Got the cramps loosened up and went on my way. Ended up stopping three more times on this lap to stretch.

Run 2 Lap 1. Not good at all. I try to run the downs and can only go about 5 minutes before the cramps set in and I have to walk, I resort to running until cramps hit, then walk until they subside . Walk all the uphills.
Run 2 Lap 2. A little better. Only had to stop moving a couple of times and was able to run more.
Run 2 Lap 3. Disaster. My legs just started shutting down. I think its the second climb where the logs are buried in the mud like steps. I tried to go up the first 10 inch step and both legs cramped solid. I literally stared at that first step for what seemed like 30 seconds trying to figure out how the hell I was going to climb up it. Eventually, I did my best tin man imitation, got up and made my way up the damn hill, vowing to not stop again. Which I didn't. I made it to the end.

I am more frustrated than anything else, I was ready to run but my legs just quit functioning.

Despite all the problems, I actually enjoyed myself in a sick kind of way. On the 9 hour drive home, I told my wife that I was signing up for next year as soon as registration opened and I am going to go sub 9:30. She just shook her head.

I hope to see you all next year.
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Sweeney wrote:
Went to the pool today. 20 minutes of aqua-jogging and 20 minutes of easy swimming. First time pushing off the wall was tough but it got better as it went on. When I got out of the pool, I was feeling pretty good. By the time I got home I was like ''the tinman without his oil can'' again.

This is going to take a while.

I knew my quads would be bad, I'm surprised that my upper glutes are just as bad.

I still haven't done anything more active than walk down the sidewalk to 5 Guys yesterday for lunch, and out to the fridge in the garage to fetch another beer.

Maybe tomorrow...


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I had a "recovery bike ride" this morning, but could barely sit on the saddle, and an 800 m OWS race tonight. God am I spent.

To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.
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registration open yet? :D

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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What, you missed it? It's already sold out.






j/k.

JM aughta just have an option where it auto-debits your card 48 hours after the current race is completed.
Would save me the trouble of re-entering all that info again every year.


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For me it is my hamstrings that are wicked sore
Biked to work yesterday then went for 3 mile recovery "run"
DOMS Added 5 pounds well ok maybe beer was part of that and ice cream
2 of them down today hoping to swim later pull sets I should be able to handle that
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Napped at the pool then swam on Monday. Rode around very easy for 60-90mins yesterday. Still very fatigued though.

Went to bed at 10pm last night. Girlfriend calls me at 11pm asking why I'm not responding to text messages, "are you sleeping? Yes!". She comes in at midnight and says hello. Then comes to bed at 1am. I could have cried. Wait, this belongs in the cry like a biatch thread...
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Hi there, I think I may be the guy in blue who was behind you for laps 1-2.5 of the bike. I had read that most long course participants spend most of the day riding alone, so it was nice having someone up ahead to share my misery with. Here's a copy of my FB update post/RR. Thanks for the company!


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Wow! That is one tough race. Doing one loop of the run and bike would be very hard, doing 4 of the run and 3 of the bike seemed like cruel and unusual punishment but I loved it most of the 7h37min it took me to run 34k and bike 135k. There was about 50 people doing the long event, with maybe 200 doing the short and medium events. The weather was perfect, just a little wind and cloud cover.

I ran the first 8k run very conservative, came into transition in 4th. As my legs were fresh, I didn`t have to walk any of the 4 major climbs.

Bike course starts with a hard 2km uphill, again it wasn`t too hard to handle on the first go around with fresh legs. Used my power meter throughout the day to make sure that I didn`t ride over 270-285watts too often. Problem is that at times that meant going 6-7km\hr.

The bike course had two major climbs, one right at the start, with a fast descent with a few curves and one nice long straightaway(I felt more and more comfortable in aero position going down after each loop). The second climb was about 15k into the 45k loop and lasts about 10km. It finished at the top of an escarpment with an amazing view. The descent for that climb was less technical. The road surface was ok most of the time, the last 15km had a few spots that could use some work but not too bad. I road loops 1-2 about 200meters behind a guy who started the bike in 5th but could descend faster than me but climbed slower. He got tired during the 3rd loop so I had to pass him. I then got passed by another guy doing the long course, so I entered T2 in same position I started, 4th. The first of the three loops was the hardest, my legs were crampy(not cramps but felt off), I had a ton of water and HEED at the waterstations and ended up feeling really good on loops 2-3. I started feeling a blister under my left foot, it made the fast descending uncomfortable, but at that point I just pushed on wanting to finish before my feet got too beatup.

I passed 1 guy on loop 2 and then with 500 meters to go, I saw the guy in 2nd. He was going pretty good, I reached him with 200 meters to go and wrapped my head around the fact that I would have to sprint finish, when he said the nicest things that anyone said too me yesterday...."I have nothing in the tank, you got this"....at which point I surged a little to make sure he wasn't tricking me and then was able to coast to the finish and enjoy a nice massage, beer and delicious burgers.
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chbelair wrote:
I think I may be the guy in blue who was behind you for laps 1-2.5 of the bike

Yes, that was me. I just couldn't convince myself to keep pushing out the same power numbers on lap 3 and faded a bit. If I remember you were a bigger guy and I figured I'd catch you on the run. Wow, how wrong I was! Great effort!

Any chance you'd be interested in sharing your data? Mine's here. I'd like to compare the power needed to get up some of those ramps! (I was 138lbs at the start of the day, probably ~130lbs by the end of it) I geeked out and recorded power/heart rate/cadence on both bike and run.
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chbelair wrote:

The weather was perfect, just a little wind and cloud cover.

Were we at the same race?

Perhaps one of us was delirious ;)
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Great report. I just have to ask though;

''The weather was perfect, just a little wind and cloud cover.''


Where did you train for this thing, Death Valley?

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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when u are 130lbs the heat doesn't hit so hard... lol

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I was worried about the heat so I drank a ton the few days before the race, the morning of, and during the race. My plans were almost ruined by the fact that I was expecting a third waterstop on the bike. On the second and third loop when I knew there wasn't one, I would stop at mid course waterstop, chug one bottle there and then take a HEED for on the bike(didn't cary both as I didn't want to lug the water up the climbs). I peed once on each bike loop and twice during the run, so I knew I was hydrated. I'm from near Ottawa, so definetly not used to heat, I road at IM wattage, so that helped too. I'm 5'10, 160lbs, I averaged 215W and really liked the weather conditions(maybe I had stored up cold in my bones from the long winter?)
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Hey great job! Anyone who does LC has my utmost respect. To do it and be impervious to those conditions is remarkable.
I froze my ass off all winter in NY and it didn't seem to help me!

p.s. I'm not 160 lbs ;)
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stillrollin wrote:
chbelair wrote:


The weather was perfect, just a little wind and cloud cover.


Were we at the same race?

Perhaps one of us was delirious ;)

Those crazy Canuckistanians, they seem to be blissfully oblivious to the weather. Hot or cold.


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CBJFan wrote:
I am more frustrated than anything else, I was ready to run but my legs just quit functioning.

Hey, you started and finished. Be very proud of yourself.

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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Bell Head] [ In reply to ]
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best recovery ride ever tonite. 45 minutes with my daughter. She wants to do her first tri this summer. Very cool and I cannot wait ! So proud to see the kids live a healthy, active lifestyle !
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nice!

To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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I need to either train more, lose 8-10 inches(those spam mails never guarantee that), or become an manorexic. Better train more...like beer too much..and not lopping off my feet or head. (That Hurricane Kitty was super refreshing, tetsuoni really nailed the beer this year! I keep threatening to bring a sixtel of homebrew...but who has time for that...well maybe next year...)

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Glad to know you both are well. Like you said - "PR or ER". True racing is all about leaving everything out on the course.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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CBJFan wrote:
best recovery ride ever tonite. 45 minutes with my daughter. She wants to do her first tri this summer. Very cool and I cannot wait ! So proud to see the kids live a healthy, active lifestyle !


I hear u bro!

just last week my little one learned to ride without training wheels :)

I can't wait until we can go out for run/rides together!

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I need to either train more, lose 8-10 inches(those spam mails never guarantee that), or become an manorexic. Better train more...like beer too much..and not lopping off my feet or head. (That Hurricane Kitty was super refreshing, tetsuoni really nailed the beer this year! I keep threatening to bring a sixtel of homebrew...but who has time for that...well maybe next year...)

Well your run training definitely came in handy when you blew past
Me on the first run.
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Glad to know you both are well. Like you said - "PR or ER". True racing is all about leaving everything out on the course.

Everything except more than nominal amounts of blood, flesh, or soul.

Ok - not that last part.
I leave chunks of my soul out on that course every year.


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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [Murphy'sLaw] [ In reply to ]
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Bullshit - you have no soul.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
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"I leave chunks of my soul out on that course every year. "

You too? This was my FB post the night before the race:

Hey Zofingen,
I want you to know I hear you over there, whispering and giggling in your little group with my other inner demons. I see you smugly swinging your satchel of crushed souls without a care in the world. It only seems fair to warn you, I'll be taking mine back tomorrow. No, I don't expect it to be easy. In fact I'm pretty sure it's going to hurt. A lot. It's still gunna happen though. Until then...,
-Sue.

I only did F1 vs you studs doing LC, but I came away with a strong result for me and my soul and I were reunited at last.

I'm prepared to give it up again next year though...

To breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive.
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tetsuoni wrote:
Bullshit - you have no soul.

After 10x out on your demonic course, that's highly likely.
I gave at the office.


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I only did cwd so why am I so tired???
no workout yesterday
not sure one happening today except the bike commute
exhausted
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [meuf] [ In reply to ]
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AmZof - where a hilly 5m trail run, hilly 29m bike ride, and another hilly 5m trail run, gets referred to as "only".

The beatings will continue until morale improves!

Thank you, sir! May I have another?


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thank you for the perspective
and doing it after 2 marathons....

I give. eating dinner with no guilt

at least the water weight from DOMS is gone.
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AmZof - where a hilly 5m trail run, hilly 29m bike ride, and another hilly 5m trail run, gets referred to as "only"

''Hilly''? That's what we ride in Central Park. Brutal, Mountainous, Killer, Soul Sucking; are a little closer

My soul is intact but I must have left half of my @ss on the course. Yesterday I did my first recovery bike ride on the Jones Beach bike path and boardwalk. It's beautiful over there and it's flat, but I could feel it in my legs going over the draw bridge. Got home, had lunch and fell asleep on the couch reading ''the Lion's Game'' (life is good, huh?). Woke up and Wham! it was like my left glut Exploded in muscle spasm. I was limping around all afternoon. Heat, stretch, ibuprofen, more heat, more stretch and I can walk this morning

More aqua-jogging today.

Bike, maybe Sunday. Run, I have to walk before I can run.

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I only did cwd so why am I so tired???
no workout yesterday
not sure one happening today except the bike commute
exhausted

short course racing is as demeaning as LC racing... I wouldn't like to go full gas up those hills; that MUST hurt!

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God, I'm glad I am not old.. ran 11 yesterday, been on the bike already too. Back still is sore but I must train for next year!

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I biked to work today - first ride since Sun.

Flatted at the bottom of my driveway. Ugh.

Guess I was *thiiiiis close* to flatting on Sun.
There but for the grace of God go I.

Or rather - if you can't be good, be lucky.


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''Hilly''? That's what we ride in Central Park

Sorry, central park is not hilly. Harlem 'hill' is a little punchy but it's too short to call a climb.
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Ha! I've had a few flats like that. If you're gonna flat...

I biked Wednesday. Must have been too much, as I slept in the next two days.
I plan on an active 3 day weekend. We'll see how that goes.
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Re: American Zofingen 2015 [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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Yup. If it *had* to happen, that was pretty much the best-case scenario.
Walked it back up to the garage, threw on another wheel, rode to work.

I'm also hoping to make the most of this weekend, starting with the ride home today.

You hitting Tinker Hill?
If you wanna hit most of the nastiest hills in my neck of the woods, here's a ride that you'll "like":
https://www.strava.com/activities/6100778

I have a buddy who nicknamed it The 5 Bitches.
East Mtn Rd S, Long Hill, Miller Hill, Tinker Hill, and Canopus Hill.

That which doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.


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Deferred to next week.
Discretion being the better part of valor and all.

I'll keep your file handy until then. Thanks. I think.
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jw67 wrote:
God, I'm glad I am not old.. ran 11 yesterday, been on the bike already too. Back still is sore but I must train for next year!


Wait a minute, you didn't even finish the race?1 You were probably home in the tub before it even got hot out?! And now you're bragging about how fast you recovered?? Maybe I got it wrong but usually most of us wait until we have actually done something before we start the bragging.

Oh yeah, about getting old:

No work, same pay!

Do what ever I want when I want; 2 trips to Ft Lauderdale to race this past winter, going to Oahu for a running race and an ocean swim race in June, San Diego for an Olympic tri and an ocean swim race in September and Naples FL for a sprint tri in December, and back to Maui in April.

Saved well, kids all grown, no financial issues

And, I finished the race!

I never had it so good!

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I got my season flat out the way the week before zofingen ;)

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meuf wrote:
I only did cwd so why am I so tired???
no workout yesterday
not sure one happening today except the bike commute
exhausted

This is the only place where anyone would say ''Only'' about a running and biking in the mountains for 3 to 4 hours, in the heat and humidity this year. Relax, it will all come back.

Wish I had gotten to talk to you after but F1 took me a lot longer than planned and you had already gone.

Good luck with the move!!!!!!!

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a friend from the club was *bitching cause she was just doing the "short"...

4hrs after: man this shit is HARD lol

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jw67 wrote:
God, I'm glad I am not old.. ran 11 yesterday, been on the bike already too. Back still is sore but I must train for next year!


Wait a minute, you didn't even finish the race?1 You were probably home in the tub before it even got hot out?! And now you're bragging about how fast you recovered?? Maybe I got it wrong but usually most of us wait until we have actually done something before we start the bragging.

Oh yeah, about getting old:

No work, same pay!

Do what ever I want when I want; 2 trips to Ft Lauderdale to race this past winter, going to Oahu for a running race and an ocean swim race in June, San Diego for an Olympic tri and an ocean swim race in September and Naples FL for a sprint tri in December, and back to Maui in April.

Saved well, kids all grown, no financial issues

And, I finished the race!

I never had it so good!

THIS. All of this. Preach, Sweeney!

DNF = STFU.

I'd recover a lot faster too, if I skipped out of the hardest part of the race. We all would.

As it is, I'm feeling pretty perky again now.
https://www.strava.com/activities/309607998

And after I mow the lawn, then jump in the pool, I'm gonna have an ice old beer out of a Big Honkin Stein.
Oh, sorry JW - you wouldn't know what that last part is like.


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I only did cwd so why am I so tired???
no workout yesterday
not sure one happening today except the bike commute
exhausted


This is the only place where anyone would say ''Only'' about a running and biking in the mountains for 3 to 4 hours, in the heat and humidity this year. Relax, it will all come back.

Wish I had gotten to talk to you after but F1 took me a lot longer than planned and you had already gone.

Good luck with the move!!!!!!!

Got in the pool this morning - managed to eek out 1200 meters and then bike commuting added about 10 or so miles of single speed work with HR spikes from dodging tourists.

Going to TRY a long easy ride tomorrow morning and a long run sunday will see how the body feels and then possibly an even longer ride Monday.....

I am so beat that I am thinking of bailing on my HIM July 5th but decided to wait 2 weeks to make that decision....
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Boy, today woulda been perfect for AmZof - brisk early, warming up to comfy sunny temps later.

Reminded me of when it was in Oct.
I miss it in the Fall - temps in 40's to start, maybe 60's or low 70's later on, blazing foliage.
Good times.


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Belleayre Mountain would be perfect for a fall race. It has a 5 mile mountain bike trail for the run and the mountain roads are just as wicked of more than Mohonk and Minniwaska. All we need is a bag piper.

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I would really like fall
though this year with running NYC probably good that it is not
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Why would anyone want to run another NY marathon when they could suffer at Belleayre Zoffingen?

I did my first run on Saturday. Surprised me that I was still draggy.

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first and last NYC I run the P1 med tent
30 mile bike saturday was ok legs felt fine even climbing but yeah running yesterday hammies were talking

decided to swim today

graduation and subsequent activities wore me out
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If you build it, they will come. And, if you do, I'll be your piper.

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That's nice and all but only one thing really matters...
When does registration for 2016 open?
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June 1st, on Active.com

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Best RD in America! You're the man. See you next year. At this rate I'll never retire. Thank you for allowing me to continue this silliness.

And this seems like as good a place as any...
Praise the red, white and blue and today especially, thank you to all the fallen.
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Yes, you are a silly, silly man.

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If you build it, they will come. And, if you do, I'll be your piper.

Going to check out the course this weekend and call Belleayre.

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Sounds good. I'll lend you my bike racks, water buckets, signage, etc....

Good luck!

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Thank you John, I'm going to call this morning

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sweet, make it happen!!!!

(just make sure is not August 17 - IMMT is on that weekend)

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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Right now I'm waiting for a call back from the Belleayre marketing department. I'm thinking that it would have to be Oct 18, the week after Columbus day. I'd rather it be the week before but I will be in San Diego the last two weeks of September, so the 18th would give me time to get back and get it going. We'd have to start later, around 9am, to let things warm up a little. Average temp on Oct 18 is 36* to 58*

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You go, Sweeney!

Later gets dicier in terms of potential weather, and am light.
AmZof 1.0 was the weekend after Columbus Day, and it was epic.
Which is why it got moved to Columbus Day weekend for all the remaining Fall renditions.

If you build it, they will come.


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Count me in, also should have some bars to sponsor the event with at that time. I also have an in with a drink manufacturer if you get that far!

epic fall Duathlon!

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Belleayre Fall Festival is Oct 11 & 12. Maybe I can get Saturday morning since their staff will be there. I've done the 5 mile mt bike trail and it ain't no picnic. 12% drop for over one mile from Belleayre to Pine Hill, go through Pine Hill then come back up to transition.

I'm going to check all this out on Friday.

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The weekend after Columbus Day is parents weekend at Kent which means I am driving down from Maine so if this race is on Sunday count me in!!!!
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JW, I'm going to try. I've never done anything like this but with a little luck, it will happen. First thing is, it's up to Belleayre management.

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Be aware of the police policies, here in CT most departments charge you hourly overtime and the officers with the most seniority get the hours, has killed many a race here.

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There is a new trail marathon in the Catskills on October 3rd, also. Loop of Long Path, Slide, Cornell, Whittenberg and Giant Ledge.
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https://catstailmarathon.wordpress.com/

Just found it. It will be starting just down the hill from my house.

This ain't gonna be no picnic!

Nice!

I love it!

I'll be at the start to cheer you all on!

(I really hope they start at the bottom of Fox Hollow Rd, not the trailhead. At the trailhead there is parking for about 6 cars and no place else to put them)

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HOLY SH!T,

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Ah, that's a can of corn compared to The Escarpment Trail Run.


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Escarpment Run;



No matter how you look at it, both of these races are some steep, rooty, rocky, right up the face of the mountain ''cans of corn''

I got a call back from Belleayre. The woman told me that she is going to check out what can be done if it can be done from her end and get back to me in a few days. Here is the first snag though; this can't be done in October. It's already snowing in October. Don't laugh, I've xc skied at Belleayre and seen kids sleigh riding on Columbus day. Last year, I think we had plowable snow in October. And as some of us found out the hard way at the HITS races in North Lake, it's freezing at the end of September.

I wonder if anyone would be interested in an extreme duathlon on the last weekend of August?

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Escarpment Run;



No matter how you look at it, both of these races are some steep, rooty, rocky, right up the face of the mountain ''cans of corn''

I got a call back from Belleayre. The woman told me that she is going to check out what can be done if it can be done from her end and get back to me in a few days. Here is the first snag though; this can't be done in October. It's already snowing in October. Don't laugh, I've xc skied at Belleayre and seen kids sleigh riding on Columbus day. Last year, I think we had plowable snow in October. And as some of us found out the hard way at the HITS races in North Lake, it's freezing at the end of September.

I wonder if anyone would be interested in an extreme duathlon on the last weekend of August?

Last year's Escarpment Trail Race was some of the most treacherous running I've ever done. Not only did we start off in thunder, lightning, and pouring rain, but the roots and rock covered trails were mossy and wet for the rest of the day. Which made every stride from rock to rock a potential slip and fall as well as every twist and turn on the downhills. That being said, I had an amazing time. But I was so terrified of my ankles and/or knees for the entire race that it made it a little bit less fun. Race report in link to my blog below if you're interested in reading more about it.
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I would be very interested in last week of August. Could also go toward Pepacton Resevoir. Some local businesses in Western Catskills might be interested in sponsoring. Last weekend of August would be really terrific I think
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just two weeks after IMMT... sound perfect lol

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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Re: ETR - my buddy Bruce set a lifetime PB last year at age 50, in those conditions, of 3:20. Damn.

Like you, I was amazed at how fast the fast guys descended that crazy technical stuff. Your RR experience mirrored mine - beat them up the climbs, watch them scamper away back down them.

After getting my soul crushed by it in 2010, I decided to do something easier the following July, so I signed up for IMLP instead.
;-)


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"After getting my soul crushed by it in 2010, I decided to do something easier the following July, so I signed up for IMLP instead.
;-) "

Hey, that's my line. ETR 2009, IMLP 2010. Same reasoning.

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"I wonder if anyone would be interested in an extreme duathlon on the last weekend of August? "

That's going to put your race up against a lot of triathlons that are your potential racers' "A" races.

In my experience, duathlons flounder and die if they are staged during open water swim season.

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