Tops: Compressport, Desoto
Suits: Endurance Junkie (but not very aero, designed for comfort)

SteveMc

I was looking for one also, but do the bunch-up under a wetsuit.

Champ SYs

Here are your options:

Castelli T1 Stealth - put it on when you get out of water, wear it on bike, remove for the run - $150 http://castelli-cycling.com/...roducts/detail/1002/
Pearl Izumi Octane Tri Suit - $300 http://shop.pearlizumi.com/...=1644423&outlet=
Champsys Apex - $720 for 1 custom order, $480 for 5 people ordering, or $240 for 10 people ordering http://champ-sys.com/...it.html#.UzBfmNf65IM
price list for ordering: http://champ-sys.com/triathlon/tri-pricelist
Louis Garneau Crowie Kit - $160 cycling jersey + $145 tri shorts http://www.louisgarneau.com/.../Crowie_Original_kit

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Castelli also have the Free Tri and Body Paint SS suits, oth have a full length zipper which should make them good for HIM and IM

For the tops with sleeves that come down to near the elbow, are they be legal for a non-wetsuit legal swim?

this was addressed in another thread. It woud be illegal for a WTC event (shoulders need to be exposed). Barring a specific local rule in an event you are doing, it would not be illegal in a non-WTC, USAT event.

Does anyone know if this is 1 piece or 2 piece? http://castelli-cycling.com/...roducts/detail/1005/

The Castelli rep is telling me it is 1 piece but I don't think it is. The zipper comes all the way down which suggests you can take it off

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I thought someone on here confirmed that Champ Sys was selling the suit for $240 if it wasn't a custom order...?

just messaged Champsys

Guest EDIT
Can the Apex Triathlon speed suit be made to order?
as in non-custom, just simple 2 color

Your are now speaking to (I removed the name )
Hi, this suit is currently only available as a fully custom item.

Guest EDIT
ok thanks


so either get a club order or pay $720. I think I'm gonna go for the Octane

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The sanremo suit from Castelli is indeed one piece. The top and bottom are connected, but not meant to look completely integrated. I have the Garmin kit in this piece and I use it for road racing and super high-end group rides (just in case).
There are back pockets and it would not be totally aero if that is what you want to race in. Big chamois, too.

I think the Octane Tri has back pockets too. I wonder why they make it look like the front can be unzipped all the way down to remove the top?

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I thought the Stealth top was going to be half zip to keep the torso as aero as possible.... I get the upside to the full zip and putting it on out of the water but I kinda don't want it now for wetsuit legal races.

No, the T1 Stealth is definitely a full zip. It would be a lot harder to get on if it was half-zip and wet

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BryanD wrote:

No, the T1 Stealth is definitely a full zip. It would be a lot harder to get on if it was half-zip and wet

I see that.... but that's not what was shown or given out last year at Kona

http://blog.castelli-cycling.com/2013/09/27/stealth-top-innovative-race-gear-year/

Ahh, that makes sense. Interesting product change.

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Since we're on the subject.... how is the PI Octane chamois? Compare it to DeSoto Forza if you can.

I had a very specific outfit in mind for IMWI this year but looks like I don't want it anymore since Stealth is now full zip.

I haven't bought it yet. I'm in this thread looking for answers as well

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The sanremo suit from Castelli is indeed one piece. The top and bottom are connected, but not meant to look completely integrated. I have the Garmin kit in this piece and I use it for road racing and super high-end group rides (just in case).
There are back pockets and it would not be totally aero if that is what you want to race in. Big chamois, too.


It looks like the there is a separate tri-oriented San Remo Suit. I also have the one-piece San Remo Speedsuit made for cycling kit -- and love it. From the Castelli website, it looks like the tri suit version has a tri-specific chamois. No way would you want to run with cycling-oriented chamois. I currently race in the Castelli Bodypaint Tri-Suit (one piece) and find that it is sometimes constricting in my chest and shoulders during the run (I wear a size large and am 6'3" around 165lbs), so about half the time I roll it off my shoulders at some point during the run. Wonder how well that would work with these. As well as how people like the short sleeve suits for the swim, especially under a wetsuit (including sleeveless wetsuit).

The PI Octane is a pad and not a chamois. It's a thin pad.

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Anyone know the major difference between the Castelli Body Paint SS trisuit and the Free Sanremo SS trisuit? The Sanremo is $50 cheaper.

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I just got the PI Octane and this was my first concern as well. I think I could handle it for a 70.3 but I highly doubt it would be comfortable enough for an IM. The other concern I have with it is if for some reason I want to shove some chamois cream in T1 or at special needs, it is going to be very tough to get it down there if the fit is proper. I'm 6'3", 195 and the medium is skin tight in a good way (no wrinkles/felt like it would be ok to run in). The large is a little more comfortable through the body (still tight, and smooth) but the fit of the sleeves leaves a little to be desired.

I wish I could get a large with medium sized arms, but the medium will probably due. I'm just concerned with the pad so I'll mull it over for a few days before returning one or both of them.

I did two IM's with that pad... one with the Octane and the other with the Pro IN R Cool shorts that have the same pad.

I found both more comfortable than other IM races where I used Desoto Riviera or Forza shorts.

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Are you on an ISM? I feel like the Desoto crowd all love that short bc we're on ISMs.

Every other short I've worn the chamois/pad is too narrow and I'm sitting on seams or too bulky.

Interesting. Maybe I'll give it a shot. I got a smoking deal on it ($190 shipped) so I am willing to give it a go. Did you find much need for additional chamios cream at any point or did it seem ok?

I use Body Glide and Aquaphor but I did carry a little tube of Aquaphor and some re-lubing about 80 miles in. Wasn't necessary but I stopped to use the potty anyway.

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Specialized Sitero.

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The body paint stuff has almost no external seams, which, theoretically at least, makes it more aerodynamic. It's also use more of their most expensive, most aerodynamic fabric. Of course, all of the custom stuff they do seems to be done with the Free collection, including for pros.

They both have the same chamois, which I really like.

Can you or anyone post a picture of the Octane Tri pad?

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You can find a stock photo online pretty easy... just search "Pearl Izumi Tri Quick Dry Chamois"

Pictures don't help though... that's why I'm still asking. The only thing I took from the photo is it looks wider than an old school fleece.

I googled what you said and there are no pictures of the "pad" or "chamois" . This is why I asked for a user to post a picture
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I'm going to pick up a pair of the Elite InRCool shorts (also same chamois) to ride in for the next 2-3 weeks. If those are comfortable, then I'll keep the medium and just take a minor time penalty if I have to take take it down to use the bathroom or apply additional cream.

The difference between the Free and Body Paint according to Castelli forum:


The Castelli Free is best for overall aerodynamics (wind tunnel-tested aero fabric across mid-lowr back) and temperature regulation in hot-weather racing environments (lighter-gauge fabrics in garment) (we have to assume, in this day & age, that the vast majority of athletes race with either a speedskin or wetsuit over their trisuit, so I place a much higher priority on aerodynamics vs. hydro, as the suit will be covered in the water anyway…). BP is best if you value the ultimate combination in fit, comfort and muscle support (minimal seams, higher-gauge fabric which provides a great blend of muscular support/compression while not being overly restrictive).

http://forum.castelli-cycling.com/...i-free-or-body-paint

SCODY offer their new A.I.R Optimise sleeved tri suit as an off the shelf product and can also be custom designed. AUD $299 for the retail version.

Research shows a 45 to 67.5 second gain over a 90km (half ironman) bike leg.

Link to the suit on the SCODY website: http://www.scody.com.au/...triathlon-speedsuit/

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I'm gonna second the Endurance Junkie short sleeve version - endurance-junkie.com
Out of Europe but now with free worldwide shipping apparently. Not super aero but pretty comfy. Not super slick for the swim either... I think it is best under a wet suit altough I've done alright just with the suit... you notice the sleeves dragging a bit though.

I'm currious how tight people go with their Octane suits? I'm in a medium and it is tight like I would wear a skin suit or swim skin... It isn't pulling so much but feels like a well fit compression suit. Mind you I will lose 8-12 lbs from now but probably in places where it isn't skin tight.

I ordered a Large today from Amazon. Note: Amazon is selling the Octane Tri for $188 with free shipping! http://www.amazon.com/...;keywords=octane+tri Hopefully it fits

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Yeah I got mine from there... Bought a medium and large but the large sleeves are baggy. The medium fits like a glove with little extra room. I'm 6'2" and about 195 right now... I plan on being down in the mid 180's (as low as 182 for Whistler if I can get there).

I'm 6'1 and 193 pounds. My measurements were definitely a large so we will see. My trisuits from ChampSys and Kiwami are both larges

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I hide my weight well... The large was loose in my arms so it was medium or nothing.

I like how long the sleeves come down on the octane, but prefer a 2-piece tri suit. Does anyone have a top with comparable sleeves that they would suggest?

This might work for you http://www.louisgarneau.com/.../Crowie_Original_kit Louis Garneau Crowie Kit

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Too bad it's a cycling top.
Doesn't seem very aero with pockets on the pack- no?
Guess it could be worn under wetsuit so not an issue on a wetsuit legal swim but then the bike.
Hmmm.............
Thoughts?
-YT