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What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot?
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This guy bought $65,000 worth of bikes...

http://money.cnn.com/...n=2007022807?cnn=yes
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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Dude seems very level headed and grounded...no Jack Whittaker, that's for sure.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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What would I do with $220M? I would do two chicks at the same time 220 times.

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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [erichollins] [ In reply to ]
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220,000,000 lottery tickets.

Although 220 pairs of chicks at the same time is a close second.


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Now that I know some of you guys look through the special needs bags for kicks, I'm gonna put some really weird stuff in mine. I can see it now. "What the heck was he going to do with a family pack of KFC chicken, a football helmet full of peanut butter, a 12 inch rubber dildo, and naked pictures of Bea Arthur?"
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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I love that man...oh, and I would have an Enzo Ferrari as well....in my home next to Rroofs (only way I could afford a pad in that hood)

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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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"This guy bought $65,000 worth of bikes..."

Six and a half Richard Sachs custom steel frames. One of them should be a perfect fit.:-)
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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When I saw the title I did the quick math and I'd give the roughly 13,000 ST members $5000 to buy new bikes with. Since he took the lump sum that only leaves $20mil to live on. We're all going to need to get fist'd so that might eat up another mil or two.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Dave G] [ In reply to ]
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You had a newer car that you gave to your nephew and you bought an older car?

That's correct. I wanted a black VW Jetta with a black interior. Believe it or not, those are really hard to find. I went to the local dealership and had them track one down for me. They had to go to Texas to get it. It fit my bicycle rack really well.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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Buy out about 25 IM races (220Million/450 about equals 48888 48888/2500 about equals 25). And invite only the people i know I can beat in each of those races, so I can have one more than PNF and be the winningest IM athlete ever.

Oh wait, I'm never doing another IM again.

I guess I'd do just about the same thing that guy did, except I wouldn't go to Tahiti. I'd go skiiing in Switzerland, and it would take a little more for me to pay off my mortage, but I don't have student loans.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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sounds like a great guy-thanks for sharing the article as we rarely see that sort of person here. Money is never discussed like that and I miss the openess and creativity of the American people. It's a great story and Richard was a good friend and neighbor of ours back in the states.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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Sounds like an intelligent guy. Why no pics of the BMC???

My husband and I play this game often. I would make sure all members of my family were comfortable, and then see how I many strangers I could help. That kind of money could do amazing things for humanity.

Too bad I live in a lotto-lacking state.

RR
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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Buy the Discovery Channel Cycling team (16 million Euros a year) rename it with my wife's first name, hire Michael Rasmussen and then buy a Ferrari Enzo. That would make my wife happy and that would make me even happier.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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I would sign up for every race on Active.com 100 times.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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I'd build my own velodrome, seriously.

Dave in VA
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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Audi RS8 Avant with a sweet bike rack
Custom bikes to put in rack
1 IMNZ entry
Lamborghini LM500
2 Around the World Plane tickets with unlimited stops

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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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I'd teach the world to sing in perfect harmony.

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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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Hookers and blow.

and maybe a SRM :)
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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how much you wanna bet the seat is high on every one of those bikes

As far as me and how I'd spend it...lots of things in my plans (just gotta win it now). This is by far my favourite question to ask people though..how to spend that kind of money. People who live at or below the national average have no idea what that kind of money means. They try to spend it..but when you're used to not having it to spend it gets confusing..especially once you start making interest on what's left.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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Oh man....
Before anything I'd buy my mom a house.

1. Invest.
2. Brownstone in NYC, and a small house in the Dolomites.
3. A few new bikes... :)
4. A Helmut Lang Suit.
5. Get a serious wine collection.
6. Buy a house for a friend of mine... he's 50 and his dream is to one day own a small house.

If I were to buy a crazy car..... Subaru Impreza WRX UK300 Edition.... the full rally copy.... gold rims with blue and yellow paint!

"Pace is just a matter of having enough RedBull..." -Rappstar
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Ti T'war] [ In reply to ]
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Audi RS8 Avant with a sweet bike rack
Custom bikes to put in rack
1 IMNZ entry
Lamborghini LM500
2 Around the World Plane tickets with unlimited stops
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Do you mean RS4 Avant? There is no RS8 anything I think. I've been wishing Audi would import that damn thing here to the states. I'd be all over that! Been checking into getting one in Germany and shipping it over :) Neighbor just got a new RS4 sedan and I really like that.

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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [BlakeSKI] [ In reply to ]
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Well I always said if I won the lottery I would donate half of it to charity. So with the remaining $110m. .no need to incoporate taxes b/c there will be a ton left over. . .

1. Pay off all family debt
2. Buy a house in San Diego with a main residence in Florida.
3. Put $50 million in fixed income funds so that I can quit my job and earn interest(let's call it my yearly salary) to ride my bike and go to the beach!
4. Travel to alot of exotic locations for races
5. Buy more bikes(For me and my friends)
6. Open a bike shop

oh. .

and 2 girls at once



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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Uncle Phil] [ In reply to ]
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Dude seems very level headed and grounded...no Jack Whittaker, that's for sure.


Dude seems full of crap. He says he is now worth $128 to $130 million after 1-1/2 years. He started with $45 million in municipal bonds and $35 million allocated aggressive. Munis returned 4.1% over the past 1.5 years and even if his $35 million doubled that doesn't give you $128 million.

I could live just fine on a $45 million muni portfolio - 4.5% coupon gives you $2 million of income.

Also you don't turn $75 million into a billion in ten years when half your portfolio is allocated to muni bonds. Somebody is giving him bad financial expectations. $70 million compounded at 25% for 12 years gives you a billion. However, he bought into real estate at the top of the cycle and I'm sure that will give him 25% a year for the next 12 years!
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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I'd buy my life back. Seriously.

And then I'd hire someone to wake me up 2 or 3 times per night so I could laugh uncontrollably more...
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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I would buy out IMNA and make it so that only triathletes who can break 12 hours could participate in IM's.

I would then buy Cervelo and Zipp and cut the prices in half so everyone could have one.

I would then proceed to get fat and lazy. Wait, I think I'm already there. Never mind.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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* Bugatti Veyron ( I would keep my Toyota Echo Hatchback/Yaris)
* Porsche Cayenne for My wife
* Not sure if it would be enough to buy the Pittsburgh Penguins
* Money to bunch of charities.
* Renovate my house.
* Lots of travel
* Invest money
* Help Familly & some special friends
* Throw away most (if not all) my training/racing clothes and buy latest clothes..
* New fancy/sexy/custom bike...

Fred.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [BlakeSKI] [ In reply to ]
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[reply]Oh man....
Before anything I'd buy my mom a house.

1. Invest.
2. Brownstone in NYC, and a small house in the Dolomites.
3. A few new bikes... :)
4. A Helmut Lang Suit.
5. Get a serious wine collection.
6. Buy a house for a friend of mine... he's 50 and his dream is to one day own a small house.

If I were to buy a crazy car..... Subaru Impreza WRX UK300 Edition.... the full rally copy.... gold rims with blue and yellow paint![/reply]


Funny you should say that about the subaru. I am so excited. I got a call yesterday, I get to go drive one next week. Yes, the full subaru north american race team car.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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Easy:

$110 Million contribution to fund to accelerate AIDs and famine relief in Africa.
$20 Million contribution to assist reconstruction of Iraq.
$20 Million to assist in conservation of marine animals and coastal areas.
$20 Million to assist in re-forestation of destroyed jungle and rainforest areas thoughout the world.
$10 Million to assist in on-going Tsunami relief throughout Asia.
$10 Million to assist homeless persons living in the U.S.

The rest for me and my friends to travel, build a sweet bike shop, build a nice little farm with lots of cats in a beautiful catery.

Tom Demerly
The Tri Shop.com
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Tom Demerly] [ In reply to ]
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I would get $110 million in $20 bills...head to a strip joint and be king. The rest I would blow.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [summitt] [ In reply to ]
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Ditto the sentiment about poor financial reasoning. His part about his investment position set off my BS detector.
To get to $1B from his starting point would mean doubling his money three times in 10 years, indicating an internal rate of return in the neighborhood of 25%. People get that kind of IRR by dumping their life savings into starting a business then working their ass off at it, with a 75% chance they go broke anyway.

It is completely unrealistic in the financial marketplace.

I happen to work for a family that won a bit lotto jackpot, and we have targeted a 9% annual return with minimal investment risk. So far they have given away $3 mil (from an original prize of $20 million) to charity and still have more money today than the day they started (3 years ago). I think they'll beat the odds.

Good luck to him though, $65k for bikes is still a lot less than some people in his position would blow on a car, or a weekend in Vegas.

Paul
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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I can't conceptualize how much money that is.

I think I'd spend a lot of it helping kids. When we went to find giving-tree gifts this Christmas, one of the tags I had chosen was for a 5 yr old boy; he asked for underwear for Christmas. I can't imagine what the rest of that child's life is like if he wanted underwear for CHRISTMAS! kids should get to ask for toys and books and fun stuff, not clothes :P it was heartbreaking. So I would want to spend a good portion of that money on those little things that would make a kid's life just a little bit brighter.

and for me... a house in Bar Harbor.

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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [couchweight] [ In reply to ]
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LUCKY!

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just don't break it.... I here cost is 500 k on one of those!

"Pace is just a matter of having enough RedBull..." -Rappstar
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [ATX TRIHEAD] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah...he only really got $85m not $220. I would hide it all off shore and blow it all on my own toys.

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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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I can't conceptualize how much money that is.

Its $1 every 5 minutes of every hour, of every day, week, month, year since the birth of Christ. And you'd still have another $10mil unaccouted for.

There was some senator who used this logic to put the national debt into perspective. Only it was $100 for every second, of every minute, every hour, day, yada yada yada, from the birth of Christ through 2004 or 2005 when he said it and it was still a tad short of the national debt. Thats a ton of money.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [rroof] [ In reply to ]
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I'm guessing with $220,000,000 I could get one built. Maybe jsut the 6 series though, the 8 might be too bike to have fun in.

This is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time. - Fight Club
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [rroof] [ In reply to ]
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Audi RS8 Avant with a sweet bike rack
Custom bikes to put in rack
1 IMNZ entry
Lamborghini LM500
2 Around the World Plane tickets with unlimited stops
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Do you mean RS4 Avant? There is no RS8 anything I think. I've been wishing Audi would import that damn thing here to the states. I'd be all over that! Been checking into getting one in Germany and shipping it over :) Neighbor just got a new RS4 sedan and I really like that.

I just saw an A8 in Pittsburgh last week. I didn't know they made such a car?



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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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I am surprized...no one will spare a million in pocket change to bail out the Tour of Georgia?

Title sponsorship is on the line...
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Erik Clark] [ In reply to ]
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no RS8 but there is an R8 - very nice car.

http://www.audiusa.com/...en2/new_cars/R8.html

I would go for the Bugatti though.

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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [eyebike] [ In reply to ]
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I am surprized...no one will spare a million in pocket change to bail out the Tour of Georgia?

Title sponsorship is on the line...
Okay, you twisted my arm; I'll do it. Its going to need a better name than the Tour of Dave G though. That sounds like a pojrn movie.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [eyebike] [ In reply to ]
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I'd start a Tour de US with long TT stages (think 56-112 miles) and long TTT's to keep things interesting. I'd make sure that there were some really nice viewing venues as well, maybeeven a couple of Velodrome stages, that would be sweet.

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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [eyebike] [ In reply to ]
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I would buy Slowtwitch from Dan and implement some new rules.

Rule #1: I get to kick anyone off the forum because I feel like it.

I would spend the rest on an Island with perfectly smooth roads and no cars, a tidepool that incircles it so I can just swimm forever in circles and special soft trails that I can run on without screwing up my back. I would also import some of the biggest snook and Bonefish for when I am not training.

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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [ElGordo] [ In reply to ]
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There are funds, open to individuals, that have averaged an IRR of over 40% for more than a decade. It wouldn't be a great policy to dump all your money in one but it's not "completely unrealistic".

FWIW I would buy a tiny (but secure) cottage in the Pyrenees within a short drive of an airport. It would have nothing in it apart from a bed, a wine rack and a Condor Classico road bike. I'd spend must of the rest on maintaining a Lear Jet at JFK to take me there any time I wanted.



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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [luckyleese] [ In reply to ]
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There are funds, open to individuals, that have averaged an IRR of over 40% for more than a decade. It wouldn't be a great policy to dump all your money in one but it's not "completely unrealistic".

FWIW I would buy a tiny (but secure) cottage in the Pyrenees within a short drive of an airport. It would have nothing in it apart from a bed, a wine rack and a Condor Classico road bike. I'd spend must of the rest on maintaining a Lear Jet at JFK to take me there any time I wanted.

Agreed, it has occured in a relative handful of investments among thousands of possible choices. That doesn't mean one could plan on doing it as a matter of strategy. In my business, if I told a client we were seeking 25% annual returns I would be exposing myself to serious liability. I doubt you would find any reasonable professional who would recommend such a goal for any person who was unwilling to risk losing his whole bankroll.

Thanks for your reply.

Paul
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [luckyleese] [ In reply to ]
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There are funds, open to individuals, that have averaged an IRR of over 40% for more than a decade. It wouldn't be a great policy to dump all your money in one but it's not "completely unrealistic".

40% IRR with or without leverage? Let's be clear.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [summitt] [ In reply to ]
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Without in terms of the fund - it's their IRR I'm talking about. How you put together your minimum investment is up to you and will obviously affect your personal IRR.

Does that answer your question?

I'm just shooting the breeze - it seems Paul is the professional on this thread



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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [luckyleese] [ In reply to ]
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I'm sure some of private equity firms like Kleiner or KKR have posted 40% annualized returns on some of the funds but to tell someone they are going to average 25% per year on a "portfolio of real estate and oil and gas" is not very prudent. He needs to ride one of his 17 bikes down to my firm for a does of fiscal reality.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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I'd buy a bunch of playdough. Cause that stuff is cool.

I also have always wanted to tell the bartender to buy the house a round. But I would only do it one time in a bar that holds less than 40 people.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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Two words,....Thin Mints.



yummmmmmmmm

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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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I just bought one of those stupid tickets. It cost me a buck. I'm trying to win $275 million. I let you guys know if I win.

Tom Demerly
The Tri Shop.com
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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I would donate a fair chunk of my winnings to the Sarah Silverman AIDS Awareness Foundation.

“We have a chance to make change. If we can put a man on the moon, we can put a man with AIDS on the moon. And then someday, we can put everyone with AIDS on the moon. So who’s with me?”



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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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I'd make sure my parents and brothers and sisters were nice and comfy then buy a shack somewhere tropical and a cabin somewhere mountainous. I have no interest in mansions, yachts, or $200,000 cars even if I could afford them. There are some places I'd definitely travel to though. I had an initial selfish thought that I'd buy a big chunk of desert and build an iron-distance course far away from heavy smog and traffic but I really don't think I'd be able to convince myself to haul a bunch of asphalt out there and spread it all over the ground if it came down to it.


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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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I would buy this bike.



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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Bman] [ In reply to ]
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No way. The seat is too high.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [summitt] [ In reply to ]
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Dude seems very level headed and grounded...no Jack Whittaker, that's for sure.


Dude seems full of crap. He says he is now worth $128 to $130 million after 1-1/2 years. He started with $45 million in municipal bonds and $35 million allocated aggressive. Munis returned 4.1% over the past 1.5 years and even if his $35 million doubled that doesn't give you $128 million.

I could live just fine on a $45 million muni portfolio - 4.5% coupon gives you $2 million of income.

Also you don't turn $75 million into a billion in ten years when half your portfolio is allocated to muni bonds. Somebody is giving him bad financial expectations. $70 million compounded at 25% for 12 years gives you a billion. However, he bought into real estate at the top of the cycle and I'm sure that will give him 25% a year for the next 12 years!

Don't forget about taxes. The only smart thing this guy did is put money in munis; his investment sense does not sound good, but at least with munis he should not lose any principal and get a nice piece of income, just based on brute force (huge principal).


You need to remember that this guy is sharp. He developed a "system" to beat the lottery. By choosing the 15 most commonly drawn numbers from the lottery for the previous 6 months, he was able to predict the 15 numbers that would be most likely to be in future winning combinations. Anyone who would actually believe that previous lottery numbers have any bearing on the future outcome of random trials is a total moron. What I couldn't figure out is, since he has developed a winning "system" why not invest his winnings in the lottery, as he would surely reach a billion dollars in a few years time.

BTW I just bought my quick pick for the $345 million NYMega tonight. Why waste time "picking" numbers when it is random anyway. If I win, I will give away 100 bikes on ST.
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Re: What would you do with a $220M lottery jackpot? [Iron Buckeye] [ In reply to ]
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$220 MIL...hmmm. I'd use it as a down payment on a nice castle in France. I'd py the rest in nice, affordable monthly installments.

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