Im in New England - so have some steep bits but not much sustained climbing local to me. My saddle had been nearly 2 cm lower and it had been like that for years with out noticing and that's what i'm familiar with - able to balance and climb the steep stuff. This last weekend going out with it adjusted up and I had trouble keeping the front end down when the trail kicked up. I'm thinking I need to go back to that climb and play around with the position.