Dont discount the fact thay Pro's dont sit there and question every gram and every aspect of their rides - they have people to do that for them. While we have the luxury to weigh the benifit of every gram, they ride what they are paid to ride, what a wind tunnel tells someone, Mand what they are given. Most pro's have no idea what they are on - just cause your hero Lance wants to micro manage the weight of his shift cable housing does not mean that they all have the time, nor desire to do the same (and to that dont forget that Lance wins only the Indy 500 of races, the rest of the Peloton has a season they look at) I never did and never will give Lance as much credit as I do Lemond, Indurain, Merckz (sp) and Hinnault...they entered a race a won - Lance, he only shoots for the big show (that makes him smarter I guess)........................................................................................................... R10 some, may have no idea, but most pros would have a pretty good idea of what they're on about. btw, what does Lance have to do with anything