Neal: I'm a bit confused by your comment on input and output energy, but please see my comment above regarding the energy equilibrium and its variables. A temperature bell curve would exists for all of these rims if they were to survive the initial period prior to pad glazing. They do not have different curves vs the Alto rim, they simply didn't last long enough to begin the decrease in temperature. Actually, that's not entirely true... You can see the Enve and Zipp rims did make it to this point and the temperature began to drop, but that was right when they failed. Boyd actually replicated our test but ran the wheel at lower power, and it ran for 20 minutes with the same temperature bell curve. All of the rims will follow this trajectory, it's not unique to Alto.