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Re: USAT's Ray Rice [vecchia capra]
vecchia capra wrote:
This is a reply to the whole thread.

I get it that many of you want Rice to resign from his position. I get it that you are all against spouse abuse. But here it the rub:

What if you, yes you, were in a situation that caused you to lose your cool and hit your wife. Or even find yourself in a situation where you were accused of doing so and then you were unable to defeat that false accusation. Would you be happy to have a clause in your employment contract that forced you to resign? Right after facing that time in the courtroom, that time in a jail cell, right when you have been struggling to pay your bills due to the loss of a few weeks or months without income, add in the additional expenses of lawyers and depositions and suddenly you are unemployed.

How many of YOU, YES YOU, would be happy about that outcome for yourselves, regardless of whether or not you actually committed the crime or were falsely accused? Do you REALLY want to have all of your sins be used to determine whether or not you keep your job? What about the others who depend upon YOUR income, like your children and the abused spouse?

I was falsely accused of spouse abuse when I was in the Navy, and thank God in Heaven that my now ex-wife failed to know my duty schedule because the time she gave the detectives was exactly the time when I was on duty and signed into a log book on the Quarterdeck of a ship. If I did not have that alibi, your opinions would be that I should lose my job. That outcome would happen today because the military generally discharges people who are found guilty of spouse abuse because they are prohibited from handling weapons after that conviction.

So many people gleefully pick up the stones to throw at others, yet they never remember that those very stones could as easily be thrown right back at them. So many people who sincerely believe they would NEVER do something have found that they can do exactly that, and rue the vehemence that they inflicted on others as they reap that harvest for themselves.


Aside of the fact that people upset by this would likely never even think of hitting thier wife there are too many aspects of your post that do not apply to the situation. This is not Jack's job. He serves at the pleasure of the members or the elected representatives of the members. He was not falsely accused. He was convicted and not only that has a very long history of anger and violence issues. Something Dan even noted. Actions have consequences. When you are in a leadership position of a public entity your behavior outside of that position affects the role you get to maintain in it.

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Last edited by: travis_lt: Oct 15, 14 11:14

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  • Post edited by travis_lt (Cloudburst Summit) on Oct 15, 14 11:14