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Re: Mark Allen / Maffetone / Low HR training – lengthy excerpt from Noakes' Lore of Running [bluefever]
bluefever wrote:
This is really interesting, but I have to doubt it.

Before Christmas I had a month or so layoff, and having nothing planned this year I did a lab test in January to find my aerobic and anaerobic heart rates.

Since Feb I have only been running within my aerobic heart rate limit, building up from 30km per week to 70km per week now. I live in a flat area, so this was easy to do.

I have seen barely ANY speed gain for the same heart rate. I was running within 5s per km in Feb at 145-155 bpm that I am now.

I am slightly lighter, 2kg, so that doesn't make much difference.

I just don't believe in these one size fits all assumptions.

Five months saw almost no improvement for me.

What has happened is that I have no tolerance for any speed. I can run all day at 5:00/ km, but 4:45 is a killer.

Considering last fall I ran a marathon at 4:35/km, I have actually regressed massively.

My plan is in August to go back to normal mix of speed and tempo and slow for an April marathon.


a. The heart rates were wrong
b. You didn't actually do what you thought you were doing
c. You are a non-responder.
d. You're actually had positive changes but aren't measuring them appropriately (IE. if you get retested you'd be better aerobically, but not anaerobically which is why you see your performance stagnate. With a build phase / more intensity you'll add speed onto that aerobicness that you've developed).

I'd bet its one of the above.

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Last edited by: xtrpickels: Jul 7, 14 8:48

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