I have a pair of Craft Ergo Pro bibs, size large, I wore them for one 2 hr ride. Purchased from Craft-usa out of Utah. These are Crafts top of the line bib short, they were 239.00 They just dont fit me quite right, in the torso...Id like to trade someone for a comparable pair of bibs , assos , castelli, capoforma, etc. Let me know. They can be lightly used, but not too abused. Thanks.