I am strongly considering purchasing this or the Hed Vantage setup. I 've heard the vantage was more stiff during those times when you have to grip the base bar and the grip area on the integrated Hed's look small, just wondering what you thought?

Do these aerobars have the newer armrest shape or the older circular ones?

Price is very reasonable and i am bent on getting a new cockpit for my bike. Was even thinking of dropping 650 for the new vantage but i think the HED aero's here would be a better bet.

The pads are the newer shape I think. Defintely not round. More contoured to your arms. The carbon base is stiff - but if you're a heavy guy pulling hard during a sprint, they're going to give some. I'm 160lbs and never felt it at all. If you're going tri - doubtful you'd ever notice. How tall are you? The alloy extensions fit me ideally - I'm 5'9". They can be cut, but not extended. Other than that, they rock. I bought a P3 which is why I'm selling them.

I am a fairly large person but unless im really going up a steep uphill or just trying to get blood flow to my sensitive parts i don't use the brake hoods, those are some of the reasons why i was really considering the integrated setup, plus the fact the levers are already attached and the armpads and extensions can go wider versus the vantage.

((((I'm about 6'4" and 165 pounds))))

unless somebody else goes for them ill try to let you know soon if im gonna go for these aerobars.

Oh yeah how long are the extensions?

I have a set of these bars, they are fantastic light and put you in a very aero position. I would reccomend them!!