Definitely very interested in these wheels (60 front and rear for me). But I have seen nothing about any attempted tests related to long term durability. Yes, I know it's a new product so time will tell. But with custom hubs, custom spokes, and rims have any preliminary stress/fatigue tests been performed? Even though aluminum rims are not whiz-bang technology, there are still lots of examples of crap rims out there. Lots of things ride great until they fail. Has there been any talk about durability and I just haven't been able to find it?

PM me your address. I'll check it for you. What wheels are you planning on shipping?

All of our wheels are 27.2mm wide at the widest point of the fairings. I think I have an email from Scott regarding the Plasma 2. When I get home I'll see if I can pull it up.

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Chris Thornham
Co-Founder And Previous Owner Of FLO Cycling

60's for me

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Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, covered in scars, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'hell yeah', what a ride.

I just hope lead times aren't like 6 months.

I haven't seen your address yet so I can't quote the shipping for you. When you get a chance let me know and I'll check it for you. About the Plasma 2. We didn't have a Plasma 2 to test so I wrote Scott and they responded with the following message. Keep in mind the widest point of our fairings is 27.2mm...


It's going to be a close call. If you were to pre-order wheels and they didn't fit, we will be allowing people to return them as long as they haven't been ridden. We are scheduled to test as many bikes as possible next week. I'll call around and see if I can find a Plasma 2.

I hope that helps,

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Chris Thornham
Co-Founder And Previous Owner Of FLO Cycling

That's a good question. Let me give you our take. Yes our parts are custom but they are all based off of already tried and true designs. For example, our spokes are Sapim CX-Ray spokes, arguably the best in the industry. Our spokes are custom because they have a shorter bladed section to allow for a better build. This design has been used on other faired wheels in the past and Sapim hasn't seen any problems with durability when compared to standard CX-Ray Spokes.

Our hubs are custom to create a better union between the carbon fiber and the hub (on the disc). The guts of our hubs are also based on a tried an true design that has been used successfully by other manufacturers without durability issues.

Finally the rims are custom in two ways. First they are wider than usual to mate perfectly with our wide fairings. Secondly, they also have a custom section that will create a better union between the aluminum and carbon fiber. This custom feature has no structural effect on the integrity of the rim, it just creates a better bond to the carbon fiber. The rim manufacturer we are using has been building high quality rims for some of the top names in the industry for years. We are very confident in our factory and the quality of rims they produce.

To top is all off we are offering a warranty on our wheels to protect them from any manufacturing defects.

Take care,

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Chris Thornham
Co-Founder And Previous Owner Of FLO Cycling

Full details will be available Monday but I will assure you the lead times on our first order will be nowhere near 6 months.

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Chris Thornham
Co-Founder And Previous Owner Of FLO Cycling

Sweet, can't wait to get the scoop

Based on this, I assume you will be posting a list of bikes that you have tested and confirmed as fitting/not fitting with the launch?

Only if you include an extra 500g's or so of extra weight in the hed's!

http://www.hedcycling.com/...efault.asp?content=6

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Yes we certainly will. Is there a certain bike are you questioning?

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Chris Thornham
Co-Founder And Previous Owner Of FLO Cycling

A P3 and a Slice. I have no reason to think they won't fit.

You are comparing a tubular wheel to a clincher wheel. If you make that comparison, then you are certainly correct. HED's tubular wheels are lighter than our clincher wheels. I think matto was referring to the HED Jets which are also clincher wheels... Comparing the weight of the HED Jets (a clincher wheel) to the weight of FLO wheels (also clincher wheels) is an "apples to apples" comparison and our weights are much closer.

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Chris Thornham
Co-Founder And Previous Owner Of FLO Cycling

You'll be happy to know I had them on a P3 the other day and they fit great. I'm working on a Slice next week. We'll get a report out as soon as possible.

Take care,

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Chris Thornham
Co-Founder And Previous Owner Of FLO Cycling

really? Comparing clinchers v tubulars? You have to be smarter than that...

What a frickin' dumb ass.....jeez some people.

I'm still in CX mode.....I only think tubular.....

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still in CX mode? Worlds are over...
Get that mind on the pavement!

I'm about to pull the trigger on some planet x clinchers, now that you are prepared to take preorders, can you list the price somewhere on the blog. I have to decide within days on what brand to purchase. The planet x sale will not last forever.

We are finalizing details today. All information regarding our Launch and Pre-Order will be available tomorrow. That includes prices.

Thank you for your patience,

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Chris Thornham
Co-Founder And Previous Owner Of FLO Cycling

Shipping to NZ looks like it should be about $75 for one wheel and 2 wheels should be about $115.

For others interested... the UK is about $65-70 for one wheel and 2 wheels will be about $95-100.

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND YOU WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPORT TAXES AND DUTIES ETC.

Take care,

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Chris Thornham
Co-Founder And Previous Owner Of FLO Cycling

let me help you out. the planet x wheels are not aero whatsoever.

  
Comparing the weight of the HED Jets (a clincher wheel) to the weight of FLO wheels (also clincher wheels) is an "apples to apples" comparison and our weights are much closer.

Flo 60 pair is 276g heavier than a Hed Jet 6 pair from their website. Not trivial, but you're looking at, what, >$1,000 to save that weight?

For me, the only reason not to get the Flo's is that I really want a PowerTap hub. Can't just replace the rear hub because the flange heights are different and the holes in the fairing aren't in the right spot for the PowerTap. Would love some sort of workaround for that, an undrilled, unlaced rim, for example. Even charging a steep price for the rim might still be worth it.

Brian

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Brian

Gonna buy a fast car, put on my lead boots, take a long, long drive
I may end up spending all my money, but I'll still be alive

Not trying to be argumentive, just curious. Where did you find the data, shape? None whatsoever? If thats true thanks for the heads up.

Canadian, If you want to test either a Quintana Roo cd0.1 or Lucero Lite, PM me. My girlfriend and I live in Las Vegas and would be more than happy to help out!

the planet x wheels are v shaped rims with no aerodynamic consideration in mind. the rim profile was presented by planet x in a thread a little while ago.