TimeIsUp wrote:
DavHamm wrote:
TimeIsUp wrote:
DavHamm wrote:
TimeIsUp wrote:
Don’t look now, but he was quite successful at
their agenda. Packed the Supreme Court. Packed the federal courts. Christofascism arguably at an all time high and continuing to rise. He set the stage for many years to come.
Yes the SC is a long term issue, but there is a clear and correct way out, that maybe the Dem's decide to take on if they win, an total overhaul, increase number of justices to say 20 , random draws for cases, 40yr term every two years new person appointed to replace, or some similar situation. The Fed Court play was around before Trump, and was simple politics the Dems blew, that one is not as dire as you seem to thing. no clue what the last on is or what it means or its impact. I just don't see the Republican party as any kind of cohesive thing without Trump.
He had his chance to set the stage, if he would have left the white house and then played king maker and organized the party around himself. But he is to ego driven to see what could have been to him if he wasn't potus he does not care who is. What he has done with the RNC money since taking over just shows that he is not about advancing Republicans, its all about him.
But yes he has given some ground and footholds to the
very conservative movement, sponsored by other more shadowy figures.
Their agenda. As we are discussing in other thread as well, I don't think the Republicans are in a state of disorganization. I think they know exactly what they are doing. They've told us exactly what they want to do and they are executing well.
Trump appointed 50% more federal judges per year than both Bush and Obama. By far the most per year since Carter. Blame it on the Dems if you want, but them blowing it was by design. Trump wasted no time.
I guess where we disagree, is what you want to call Republicans, the party worked hard used local elections and conserv funding to set up a power play, then Trump took over the party and took advantage of the position. I am not sure the traditional Republican's are happy with the chaos Trump has caused or even his nominations.
But their was nothing to be done at the time. I think things go back to a much more normal position if Trump gets out of the picture. He is the latest extension of Tea Partiers (except I don't think Trump actually has a political agenda he was using who he could to get the power). I think many of the traditional Republican's could find themselves on the wrong side of Trumps witch hunts if he is re-elected.
Whether you believe the bolded or not, there is plenty they can do now and they simply aren’t doing it. As far as I can tell, they are staying out of his way. On an electorate level, no one forced them to vote for him in the primaries and no one with be forcing them to vote for him in the general. If he’s such a harbinger of chaos they have a great opportunity to make him go away.
To your last point and again, here in GA, they’ve already found themselves on the wrong side and set back our conservative movement for many years to come. They went along with the ride as long as it suited them and unfortunately, until it was too late.
ETA- But you are right in that our definitions of the modern Republican probably aren’t connecting well. I see a large segment that are completely OK with what is going on. I see another large segment that may not love what is going on, but Still holding mentality of better us than the alternative. Unfortunately, there’s a small segment that is actively fighting to get it back.
Not sure you understand the bolded. The Judge spots were open (through a grand plan) they appointed who trump sent, maybe they could have guided his picks, but I dont think so, and same as the SC spots opened, I dont think the Koch brothers or their modern equivalent really supported the extreme wacks, he put on the SC. But at that point there was little to be done about it. I don't know fed. courts well, but it seems there are only a few true rouges out there, and they have even put some controls on Texas district courts assignment of Judges (I think I have that right).
Yes, I would say 50% of "Republicans/Conservitives" have stepped away. Of what is left, Trump only is about 30%, 30% are Who ever has an R, and 30% are scared and hoping for change but not ready to stand up to Trump. Trump leaves, the quiet 30% speak up and try to get control, and will be supported as the 50% that have just left, start taking them somewhat serious. (Biden was the first and only time I have voted D for Potus). Bush was probably the last time I voted R (to be clear). But before the Rep, went wack, I would say locally I supported more R's than D. I could be considered one of the 50%.
Rep, cant be sure a loss Makes Trump go away, He has literally taken control of the RNC. Even with a loss he will still control the purse strings. I think the only way others stand up is if he loses pretty large, which I can't tell you what that is, other than unlikely.
But to get back on topic, If Truth Social is losing viewers and posting at these rates, maybe there is a growing number of people done with him, and a big loss could be starting to form up.. Who Knows.
EDIT -- Seeing the Holy Shit thread pop back up.. its lack of posts, maybe also shows a sign of growing tiredness of Trump, and he really cant say anything anymore that shock's people.
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