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Please tell me if I am being unreasonable ....
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So I bought a new Honda Ridgeline a year ago this week. Itā€™s my second one and I love it.

When I purchased it, they threw in a couple free oil changes, and they booked me in that day, at the six month mark and the year. The service department at the local Honda dealership is always busy. I mean packed. If you need service good luck getting in before a week to ten days.

So when I booked a year ago, I booked at 1030AM. A simple oil change only.

I show up at 10:25 and I am told it will be about three hours. Now I am no expert, but an oil change doesnā€™t take more than 30-45 minutes. I say to the Service Manager ā€œPlease explain to me how an appointment made a year in advance isnā€™t on time?ā€ I get mumbled excuses about scheduling and ā€œthis is just how it worksā€. WTF?

At worst, I can accept a half hour bump, so maybe an hour and a half total time wasted, but three hours? When I booked a literal year in advance? Even doctors and dentists donā€™t generally make you wait more than a half hour.

Am I being too demanding? What is your dealership like? I have honestly never had this happen. I owned another Ridgline for eight years prior to this one and dealt with another dealership in another city and never had any issues. In fact, their service department was one of the best Iā€™ve ever seen.

I might have to write an angry letter! Thatā€™ll show them :)

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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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You probably have to take the whole engine out to change the oil in those foreign cars.

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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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I would ticked off and ask to speak to a manager. Many dealerships beg for positive reviews so if you're unhappy it's worth talking to someone in charge.




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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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We pre paid for 10 oil changes on my wife's car. $99 for 10 oil changes and a life time drive train warranty (worth nothing I am guessing), but $10/ change is a good deal. She usually schedules them about a month out and is in and out within 45 minutes every time, usually less. If you have a scheduled appointment they have a service tech ready at that time. #buymurican

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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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I would tell them I'm happy to wait if they reimburse me for the lost hours I could be charging at work.

Or speak to a manager. I have zero sympathy for dealerships. I think it's one of those work places that attracts a certain type of person and most people you end up dealing with are of the dishonest scum of the Earth variety. I'd raise hell.

Long Chile was a silly place.
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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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BCtriguy1 wrote:
I would tell them I'm happy to wait if they reimburse me for the lost hours I could be charging at work.

Or speak to a manager. I have zero sympathy for dealerships. I think it's one of those work places that attracts a certain type of person and most people you end up dealing with are of the dishonest scum of the Earth variety. I'd raise hell.

Many people feel that way about construction contractors... ;)

Seriously, though, the problem isn't the people, per se, it's the system... trying to operate a dealership in 2018 using a 1960's model is bound to fail. Most dealers I work with have close to 100% per year average turn over in sales, it's harder and harder to find good people, and the people they do find are corrupted by the system... Service is slightly better, but it's a tough job. Nobody maintains or repairs their cars because they want to, and the sales guy never tells the truth about how much it costs or how long it takes...
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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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My dealership is the same way. So I stopped going to them. The question you have to ask is are those 3 hours worth the 50+ dollars you'll have to pay for the oil change elsewhere. The only reason to use their service is that you were given the 3 free oil changes. Other than that, go find a different shop to do that work.
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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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I would definitely complain, and bring up the follow up survey that Honda will send you. They live and die by those and, while it won't help get you in any sooner, they will probably compensate you somehow to get you to give them all 10's.
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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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BCtriguy1 wrote:
I would tell them I'm happy to wait if they reimburse me for the lost hours I could be charging at work.

Or speak to a manager. I have zero sympathy for dealerships. I think it's one of those work places that attracts a certain type of person and most people you end up dealing with are of the dishonest scum of the Earth variety. I'd raise hell.
Funny this came up today, iā€™m waiting to hear back either today or tomorrow from our local Audi dealership to see if iā€™m hired (:
Of course, I will never be a salesman, but I applied to be a Porter, so that should be fun (fingers crossed) (:
(Oh and Iā€™ll do my best not to be a dishonest scum)
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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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I went to Jiffy Lube today. It wasn't free. But they were done before I got completely logged on to my email.

When my wife bought her BMW back in 2001 we went to the dealer for a couple oil changes. Complete fuckers. Never again.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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Not being unreasonable. A 10:30 appt does not mean a 3 hour wait. I would have been ripping pissed at the service managers reply especially based on how it was delivered.

I would have gone straight to the sales manager and told him he ripped you off selling you that service and scheduling it. Hopefully that conversation would take place on the sales floor. I would have asked to speak to the dealership manager or owner. Even if they somehow made it right I would still crush them on any survey you could fill out. I believe those do have value for the dealership when it comes to getting inventory or something like that.

I have a special kind of hatred for car dealerships.

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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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Also, currently sitting at Subaru after having three warning lights come on. I know the problem. I sent them a link to a description of the issue when I made the appointment. And iā€™m being charged 100 bucks straight off the bat for them to diagnose because iā€™m out of warranty, and the part is going to be about 100...

scum.

edit: ouch. I was right in the diagnosis (gimme back my first 100 šŸ˜‚) so that was 196.00, and then theyā€™re saying the brake and diff fluid both need flushed and changed. Coming up to about $600 now, and from 45-1:00 now there saying itā€™ll be about 4 total.
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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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Toyota place in southwestern ontario. Called yesterday to ask for oil and filter. They said I was due for full maintainence check. Said come in after lunch. Dropped van off at 1 pm was done at 3 pm. A straight up oil and filter is never more than an hour. They drove me home so I could do stuff while I waited and picked me up after it was done. I live about 7 km from dealership.

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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [j p o] [ In reply to ]
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j p o wrote:
I went to Jiffy Lube today. It wasn't free. But they were done before I got completely logged on to my email.

When my wife bought her BMW back in 2001 we went to the dealer for a couple oil changes. Complete fuckers. Never again.

Thats because Jiffy Lube doesn't actually change the oil. They just sell you some wiper blades, pat you on the ass and send you on your way.
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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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CaptainCanada wrote:
So I bought a new Honda Ridgeline a year ago this week. Itā€™s my second one and I love it.

Yes, that is unreasonable.
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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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BCtriguy1 wrote:
I would tell them I'm happy to wait if they reimburse me for the lost hours I could be charging at work.

Or speak to a manager. I have zero sympathy for dealerships. I think it's one of those work places that attracts a certain type of person and most people you end up dealing with are of the dishonest scum of the Earth variety. I'd raise hell.

You ever consider the karma factor?
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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [A-A-Ron] [ In reply to ]
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A-A-Ron wrote:
j p o wrote:
I went to Jiffy Lube today. It wasn't free. But they were done before I got completely logged on to my email.

When my wife bought her BMW back in 2001 we went to the dealer for a couple oil changes. Complete fuckers. Never again.

Thats because Jiffy Lube doesn't actually change the oil. They just sell you some wiper blades, pat you on the ass and send you on your way.

No. They changed the oil. They swung and missed on the blades, air filter, cabin filter, coolant top off, tire rotation, and refilling of my new car smell dispenser.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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Thatā€™s too long!

That said my dealer is right next to the bike park- so I just bring my mtn bike and ride while they are working on my car. So, if I wasnā€™t busy I might not be too mad.
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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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While youā€™re right in that it 3 hrs is way too long, this being the real world you probably should have called a week in advance.

Again, not saying you should have to do that but maybe would have helped.
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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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Did they show your appt in the system? if so then no you are not unreasonable. Sounds like the leadership at that dealership runs a cluster.

I've found that like doctors and dentists if your not first then you just in line with the rest of the world, Appointments run long, they are doing an oil change on one vehicle and find that x needs repaired and they can do it today causing them to run long.

Ive been told "NO, sorry, can't do that today, we're too busy" when I've asked for additional services beyond my appt. talk to management.
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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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I would have said, ā€œNo problem. Just pull a car around for me to test drive for the next 3 hours & Iā€™ll be back so you can finish it up while Iā€™m away since youā€™re not ready for my scheduled time.ā€ They would have quickly set you up or figured out how to do what they promised.
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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [MidwestRoadie] [ In reply to ]
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This makes more sense than some contractor demanding compensation for lost time from someone that's probably suffered lost time from a contractor.
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Re: Please tell me if I am being unreasonable .... [racin_rusty] [ In reply to ]
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racin_rusty wrote:
BCtriguy1 wrote:
I would tell them I'm happy to wait if they reimburse me for the lost hours I could be charging at work.

Or speak to a manager. I have zero sympathy for dealerships. I think it's one of those work places that attracts a certain type of person and most people you end up dealing with are of the dishonest scum of the Earth variety. I'd raise hell.

You ever consider the karma factor?

Yeah, yeah. A lot of contractors are bad for that. I swear I stay busy because I just pick up my damn phone. I've gotten referrals from people I didn't even do work for, I just returned their call to politely tell them I couldn't take their job for another 6 months, and apparently that left an impression. I'm booked in to 2019 already. A little customer service goes a long way.

I think I've accidentally left a client hanging maybe twice last year. And in both instances I made sure they were compensated somehow. A gift card out for dinner while I'm renoing their kitchen, a nice bottle of wine, etc, or even a bit of free labour. Honest mistakes occasionally happen.

Long Chile was a silly place.
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