I knew who Charlie Rose was but not this Lizza guy. Never noticed him on CNN. Article says he wrote for the New Yorker which I usually found unreadable.

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They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

I have no idea who this guy is. But this is where we are at. People can now accuse other people of sexual misconduct, get them fired and not have any details of who they are or what was supposedly done to them come to light.

Isn’t due process great?

There I go, participating in rape culture...

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

You know him even if you don't know him. Remember the Scaramucci interview?

Heh. I brought Lizza up on the Batali thread. Pretty well-known journalist. He's saying that the New Yorker made a 'terrible mistake' and that he was dating the woman and it was a consensual thing, etc.

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"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

Wouldn't the "due process" in this case be the employer's responsibility?

How much insight can you get from an employer when someone is fired, for whatever reason?

It just seems to me that these men and their careers are on a public trial and we don’t really get any info.

So for his guy, his career is in tatters in a very public way and we have no idea why. Maybe he’s a total sleaze. Maybe she’s making shit up. What we do know is that his career is likely over.

What will stop pissed off women from making shit up and getting people fired in this environment? Where is the recourse for the men?

I think we’ve gone from one extreme to the other. Shirley there’s a happy medium somewhere.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

I think the way our system works, would be that the wrongly accused person who was fired sues the company that fired him for wrongful termination. I would think most HR departments have experience with this sort of stuff and go to at least some effort to verify.

At least in this case the article posted alludes to the company checking the story out.

That is what I found when I googled him. But I didn't remember it. I think it is because every day some new craziness comes out connected to Trump and I long ago started tuning it out. Speaking of which I am starting to feel like I am in some kind of propaganda world like Germany in the 30s where people have given up on the truth.

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They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

See, it would be nice to know what "checking the story out" means. It could just mean that she said it and that they thought it's just easier to get rid of the guy regardless of what the truth is.

Of course, he's claiming innocence. No shock there.

And yes, i am aware that they are under no obligation to let us know how they checked out the story.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Could be, it would be nice to hear from someone with experience in the area. I know people who have gotten back pay and such for wrongful terminations, but it had nothing to do with being accused of harassment.