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Would Someone Please Explain the Logic of Our Current Allegation = Guilt Society?
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Crank
Nov 16, 17 13:19
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In response to Franken's explanation/apology, Guy Cecil, the head of a prominent Democratic super PAC, tweeted, "That was not an apology and was an insufficient response to serious allegations. Al Franken must be held accountable..." (Link.)

How do "allegations" lead directly to being "held accountable"? In my mind, it's not until allegations are proven than one should (can?) be held accountable for them.

What happened to due process and logic? Has the victim culture and its attendant inability of anyone to question a "victim" swept both of those away?

What a f*cked up state of affairs.
War is god
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SH
Nov 16, 17 13:26
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Crank wrote:
In response to Franken's explanation/apology, Guy Cecil, the head of a prominent Democratic super PAC, tweeted, "That was not an apology and was an insufficient response to serious allegations. Al Franken must be held accountable..." (Link.)

How do "allegations" lead directly to being "held accountable"? In my mind, it's not until allegations are proven than one should (can?) be held accountable for them.

What happened to due process and logic? Has the victim culture and its attendant inability of anyone to question a "victim" swept both of those away?

What a f*cked up state of affairs.
If someone accuses you of something you did, and you admit you did it, that's it -- especially if there's no state prosecution involved.
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JD21
Nov 16, 17 13:28
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Well, a photo + acknowledgement isn't helpful if there's a an issue with people are jumping to the sentencing phase...
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vitus979
Nov 16, 17 13:37
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What happened to due process and logic?

Nothing. In the extremely unlikely event he faces criminal charges, he will most certainly receive the full benefit of due process.

Logic and critical thinking leads to the conclusion that he's guilty, though. There's that photo, and his "denial" about forcing his tongue down her throat is not credible.








"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
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ThisIsIt
Nov 16, 17 15:34
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vitus979 wrote:


What happened to due process and logic?


Not to mention these are principles of the legal system, not requirements for someone making a decision to believe something or not and then to act accordingly on that belief.
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vitus979
Nov 16, 17 15:40
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I kinda feel like I did mention that . . .







"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
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Duffy
Nov 16, 17 17:16
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In anything that involves sex or race there is no due process (depending on which sex or race you are).
Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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dvfmfidc
Nov 17, 17 11:05
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Damn right white boy!
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BreadPudding
Nov 17, 17 11:22
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Politics is theater and smear campaigns are the weapons of choice. The ACA was supported by both parties, they just played to their constituents' wishes. I had a local politician told a colleague she introduced a bill that was bullshit in actually helping businesses but it looked good to her "optically" for her political career.

They are that morally and ethically deficient.
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Velocibuddha
Nov 17, 17 11:30
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The society that I live in has the following rules:
1) Avoid the selfish, unpredictable, mentally ill and ...... lawyers.
2) Try to treat people fairly and with respect.

There are NO legal disputes (sexual or otherwise) in my society.
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Old Hickory
Nov 17, 17 13:06
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dvfmfidc wrote:
Damn right white boy!

Dirty White Boy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81-ph0YYLOE

Notice the first line... better put those guys behind bars!
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