There are more effective and efficient ways to kill large numbers of people indiscriminately. Guns are used in these types of situations to create attention and fear. I sincerely believe that taking away the attention is the most effective way to reduce these types of attacks, but with instant media and a lack of journalistic integrity, we're going further into the problem rather than moving closer to a solution.

Seems that France has a murder rate of 1.6 per 100,000 vs 4.9 for the USA. So not only does France have a significantly lower murder rate, but the proportion of gun murders is significantly lower as well.

Exactly.

America has a murder problem, not a gun problem.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

Don't conflate deaths. lol. You're over hear conflating all gun deaths with mass shootings, and telling me not to conflate deaths. OK.

Let's say there are about 33,000 gun deaths in America per year. Are mass shootings far and away the leading contributor to those deaths?

No. Suicide is the leading contributor of gun deaths in America. Suicide accounts for about two thirds of those deaths by shooting.

Of the remaining one third of American shooting deaths, only a very small minority is attributable to mass shootings. It's mostly inner city violence.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

You have a point here, even if I think there can be more done to address the problem of gun violence in this country. What kills me is the immediate aftermath of tragedies and terrorist acts like this one in LV, supposedly "peace-loving" people calling for swift action against guns, yet those same people not decrying the warhawk politics of someone like Hillary Clinton.

Or both.

Yep. Perhaps if we just banned heroine and cocaine, we would stop those direct deaths and the associated gang deaths surrounding them.

The vast majority of murders are gang related and mostly black men killing other black men with firearms purchased and/or possessed illegally.

I fail to see how restricting my ownership of firearms is going to do anything about that.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

I’m agreeing with you....sarcasm lost.

No, i was just reiterating your point.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

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And how many suicides would be prevented if gun access was significantly reduced or removed altogether? How many innercity murders would be more like stabbings or beatings? We can debate this til the cows come home.

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Likely zero. Maybe more unsuccessful attempts.

Criminals will still have guns. Unless you want to talk about a border wall as well, and that would only slow it down.

We can debate this til the cows come home.

Longer, if you keep moving goalposts like that.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Big difference statistically.

This please. I’m young, and in many parts of my life in naive and stupid. But I think this is a huge part of the equation. Go watch video game players on YouTube, or any fictional show on at 9:00 at night. Go walk around a public high school and listen to the “jokes” and comments made by people about guns and murder. I’m not one to start screeching for safe spaces by I am inclined to advocate for a little moral recalibration of our society. It’s to the point where i find the current situation absolutely sickening.

I’m 18 years old, and have several guns. They’ve been “mine,” for a few years, but only after I went through an 8 or 12 week hunters and gun safety course. They’ve stayed locked up, as well as the ammo, because that’s the responsible way to do it.

I’m entirely a 2a supporter. What i’m not is an idiot supporter. And I believe one of the first steps is more of a focus on the views and beliefs and values of our society.

 Interesting article on the topic.... https://www.washingtonpost.com/...m_term=.90b65325edee