What are you, Ingmar Bergman or Martin Scorcese? ;-)

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I don't think he liked being shown up in public in front of his boys. The nurse was being polite and conciliatory, but when the guy on the phone just directly confronted him, he just lost it. You could see he tried to hit the phone, since the voice saying mean things came from the phone, but then she just became the next most obvious target.

I wanted to identify some conspiracy related to the fatality collision during during the police pursuit. Like maybe an investigation is underway over whether the police should have pursued in that case. But that just seems unlikely. Stopping a reckless driver (that was the probably cause for attempt to pull him over) is a valid public safety move, and the fatality was the reckless driver himself. I don't know how useful a blood draw is over a month after the collision is, though.

Yeah, none of the other 6-7 people standing around watching that go down is going to be a new chapter in Profiles in Courage.

I agree with you regarding why he lost it. I just want to know what he wanted the blood in the first place.

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I still think this is the Twilight scenario. The cop is part of a vampire clan who extracts blood from unconscious patients as part of a murky "blood draw program," that even an emergency medicine doc in this forum said he's never heard of such a thing. And it's Salt Lake, so they're Mormon vampires. Fucking Mormon vampires. We're screwed.

There is an interesting twitter conspiracy theory out there. Someone posited that engaging in the police chase was highly suspect and against dept policy. Because the result was so catastrophic, the officers involved were facing significant possible discipline. In short, they were looking for any type of exculpatory evidence to limit their own liability.

I saw that early on. Fishing expedition in the hopes the victim had something in his system to mitigate the police departments liability.

Interesting. That would make sense.

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If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers

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Somebody in about the second page of this thread suggested that possibility. It makes sense.

Hey c'mon now, being a cop is hard, just ask Stal. I'm sure he had a really bad day, man...

Seriously, we had a kid go off his meds here in my town a few years back and the family panicked and called 911... Cops ended up shooting the kid dead on his home doorstep with the rest of the fam inside. Super tough situation, no doubt, and I did/do honestly feel bad for the cops involved, but still I'm always galled by the usual apologists with the "Well how would YOU react?" defense. Who gives a shit how I would react? Maybe I shoot the kid, maybe I wet my pants, maybe neither, maybe both. So fucking what? I'm not a cop, I don't have the training, and I'm not issued a gun and given the authority to use it on you. I bet the cop would do poorly trying to perform my job without any specific training either. If that's too much to bear, time to find another job, absolutely.

Was that the sketch before or after the Minister of Silly Walks?

He's been fired from his job as an EMT now due to the unethical statements he made regarding transporting patients to the hospital in question.

On another page I was reading, it was mentioned that since the driver had a CDL, the laws regarding implied consent & chemical testing don't apply in the same manner as they do for non-CDL holders. Maybe, maybe not - I have no idea.

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I'll say what I said above, you'd think people who do this stuff all the time would know about it if such a thing mattered. IMO, doesn't really matter one way or the other regarding the officers actions.