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Re: Trump weighs mobilizing National Guard for immigration roundups [vitus979] [ In reply to ]
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Nope, not even close. People can choose to work here or not, and there is a path for folks moving forward. it's called freedom, and it is good for the US, and it is good the undocumented, and good to align laws with reality and viable public policy. Enough, put forth your policy, C'mon. Then let's see it through to your extraordinarily high moral ground.
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Re: Trump weighs mobilizing National Guard for immigration roundups [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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klehner wrote:
vitus979 wrote:
Problem is the media isn't much better.


Nonsense. Reputable outlets are far more trustworthy. They don't publish known falsehoods.

And "reputable" doesn't mean "ones I agree with."

Would you call the NYT reputable? Well they apologized to their subscribers for their poor coverage of the Presidential election.

Having said that, I respect the NYT for that. They were just one outlet in the great majority of main stream media ignoring, for instance, what was happening inside the Trump rallies. NYT at least had the gumption to see and admit their error.

But the fact remains that reputable outlets as a whole IGNORED the grass roots support for Trump. I saw it happening real time, hearing reports of the crowds and watching youtube videos, and then reading NYT and "reputable" outlets and seeing nothing, except maybe a story about Trump not liking babies.

Something is real broke within the "reputable" outlets. The truth is that the "reputable" outlets did not report the Trump groundswell because they were afraid to add fuel to the fire. But if they are not reporting, how can they be reputable?

We are back to were we have been for millennia. There is no reputable outlets. There are only outlets for each side.

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Re: Trump weighs mobilizing National Guard for immigration roundups [H-] [ In reply to ]
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"Buried deep beneath the Michael Flynn hysteria this week was Judicial Watch’s release of newly obtained State Department documents related to the Benghazi terrorist attack on September 11, 2012. One email confirms—again—that the Obama administration knew the day after the attack it was not a random act of violence stemming from an anti-Muslim video. That was the excuse shamefully propagated by top Obama administration officials (including the president himself) and swallowed whole by a media establishment desperate to help Obama win re-election six weeks later."
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The ongoing problems of major media reporting incorrectly, and at the same time over-playing those same false reports, does not even register for the left, and is a big reason they don't understand the distrust many have for most of the media. Dan was recently making the point that we need to believe these reporters (from the sites he trusts) and that most are registered independents! Take the story I've linked, it reinforces again that Fox was really the only major news outlet that got Benghazi right. (You can argue they only really reported it accurately because it would look bad for the admin or Hillary etc, but the reality they reported it correctly.) This was a pretty bad black eye for the press, but is not even acknowledged. Meanwhile the LR left has made BENGHAZI! a laugh-line. That's disgusting and sad, but more importantly, ignores that trust in the media is further damaged for those on the right, and the more aware or honest on the left. I'll just close with the last bit from the linked article:
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"Sometimes the hypocrisy, double standard, and outright lies by the media under the Trump presidency is funny. Sometimes it is infuriating. But never was the media’s complicit sheep-like coverage more evident than it the days after Benghazi, behavior you can never imagine now. They have yet to admit their mistakes and failures, even as more evidence is revealed.
Remember that the next time you want to worry about how Trump is responsible for undermining the media’s integrity and credibility."
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http://thefederalist.com/...eople-media-laughed/
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Re: Trump weighs mobilizing National Guard for immigration roundups [dave_w] [ In reply to ]
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The ongoing problems of major media reporting incorrectly, and at the same time over-playing those same false reports, does not even register for the left, and is a big reason they don't understand the distrust many have for most of the media. Dan was recently making the point that we need to believe these reporters (from the sites he trusts) and that most are registered independents! Take the story I've linked, it reinforces again that Fox was really the only major news outlet that got Benghazi right. (You can argue they only really reported it accurately because it would look bad for the admin or Hillary etc, but the reality they reported it correctly.) This was a pretty bad black eye for the press, but is not even acknowledged. Meanwhile the LR left has made BENGHAZI! a laugh-line. That's disgusting and sad, but more importantly, ignores that trust in the media is further damaged for those on the right, and the more aware or honest on the left.

Quoted because it is so well stated.

Thanks for bringing my attention to that article as well.

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Re: Trump weighs mobilizing National Guard for immigration roundups [dave_w] [ In reply to ]
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Hilarious how you guys are focused on Benghazi and some seem to give a shit that Russia hacked your election and your president seems beholden to them. Watching the but but but Obama is hilarious.

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Re: Trump weighs mobilizing National Guard for immigration roundups [oldandslow] [ In reply to ]
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Enough, put forth your policy,

Crickets.
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Re: Trump weighs mobilizing National Guard for immigration roundups [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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CaptainCanada wrote:
Hilarious how you guys are focused on Benghazi and some seem to give a shit that Russia hacked your election and your president seems beholden to them. Watching the but but but Obama is hilarious.
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no, focused on hoping and calling for an honest media. "Russia hacked" proven wrong, no since in replying. I have yet to see Trump act as "beholden", in fact today news out that Russia is retrenching because our guys are reassuring traditional allies we are 100% in their court.
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Re: Trump weighs mobilizing National Guard for immigration roundups [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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CaptainCanada wrote:
Hilarious how you guys are focused on Benghazi and some seem to give a shit that Russia hacked your election and your president seems beholden to them. Watching the but but but Obama is hilarious.

Even a Canadian cant be this dumb. Maybe head over to dipshits media bias thread and you two can pleasure each other. The Russians did far less than your feiend Obama did with taxpayer dollars in Israels last election. Lol hacked election, uou must have been kicked in the head at your last moose humping.


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Re: Trump weighs mobilizing National Guard for immigration roundups [Rodred] [ In reply to ]
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Rodred wrote:
CaptainCanada wrote:
Hilarious how you guys are focused on Benghazi and some seem to give a shit that Russia hacked your election and your president seems beholden to them. Watching the but but but Obama is hilarious.

Even a Canadian cant be this dumb. Maybe head over to dipshits media bias thread and you two can pleasure each other. The Russians did far less than your feiend Obama did with taxpayer dollars in Israels last election. Lol hacked election, uou must have been kicked in the head at your last moose humping.

With no due respect, go fuck yourself

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Re: Trump weighs mobilizing National Guard for immigration roundups [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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CaptainCanada wrote:
Rodred wrote:
CaptainCanada wrote:
Hilarious how you guys are focused on Benghazi and some seem to give a shit that Russia hacked your election and your president seems beholden to them. Watching the but but but Obama is hilarious.

Even a Canadian cant be this dumb. Maybe head over to dipshits media bias thread and you two can pleasure each other. The Russians did far less than your feiend Obama did with taxpayer dollars in Israels last election. Lol hacked election, uou must have been kicked in the head at your last moose humping.

With no due respect, go fuck yourself

Sounds like someone hit a nerve.

Our eoectiom was not hacked. The DNC was, after multiple warnings by the FBI that they were vaulnerable.

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