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veganerd wrote:
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Like what?Cointelpro
You are going back to the J. Edgar days? Wow, you are desperate.
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No. No it doesn't. You may not like that, but that is the law.Well, there are laywers in california seem to disagree with you. Who should i believe? I guess we shall see how the court decides.
No, there aren't and you have not cited to anything that says otherwise.
Do you really think this doesn't happen still? Lets not forget an otherwise law abiding citizen, Randy Weaver was talked into dealing with NFA items by an ATF informant. The informant's ATF handler identified Weaver as a benign attendee of some white supremacy leaning groups (patriot groups) who had a lot of potential to move up the leadership and build cases against the groups leadership.
If that isn't what COINTELPRO did I don't know what. I'm also convinced that law enforcement elements have found their way into the black mask type anarchist movements, black lives matter, jihad and the patriot movement with the intent of creating criminals they can arrest.
Not a quarter goes by where we see some borderline slow learning jihadist wannabe who surfing the net came across some lurking FEDS all to happy to make him the next 9/11 incident. Only to provide them with fake bombs and targets and arrest them when the bombs don't go boom.
Hey, the ATF has infiltrated many 1%er with agents reaching as high as second in command. You don't become a treasurer and then vice president of a large 1%er gang like the Outlaws without breaking some laws and calling some shots. That to me is the essence and spirit of COINTELPRO even if it is an accepted practice in modern law enforcement. If anything, it tells me how loose we have gotten with the 4th amendment. But you and I already disagree on that, so no sense in arguing.
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