completely agree. And this is why the doormans story is important - they wanted to bury the story, which turned out not to be true.

"The story" - is more so "her story" - whether true or not, is what important.

Trump didnt want her story coming out - when it was going to come out. The prosecution needed to show that her story was going to come out BUT for the payout - which could have been done legally by the campaign.

I do have a question. If the payout came right before the election, and was done by the campaign, and trump disclosed the campaign finances AFTER the election - wouldn't this have all gone away? It seems like campaign can just backend payments like this and not have to disclosures reported on before the election.

Yeah thats the main thing. Trump used means that others were not able to - because they were illegal.

I think before citizens united campaigns had to disclose where they got their money from (so voters could see where politicians were funded). It would be similar (prob inverse) to a case pre-citizens where someone donated to a campaign, but the the campaign made up who the money was from.

The main goal of all of this was to hide information from the voters - which is a main issue. The other main issue is that others had to disclose similar information.

No one really cares that trump paid off people. People really care that trump paid off people, and didnt follow the legal procedures to do so.

Its also strange that people say trump was the "most transparent president of all time." Which while he was in office pretty much hid any negative data (stopping data relating to drones, stopped WH call and visitor logs, didnt produce meeting callouts, lots of obstruction of justice, didnt want to collect covid data, etc.). We are seeing now that a lot of what trump does/did is falsifying documents.

Will Covfefe himself take the stand?

His army of lawyers must secretly know that he's an idiot, and that he better not testify. But if he doesn't, how does it look to the jury?

The payment is confirmed. The story was there whether they had sex or not. He wanted to bury the story not the sex.

I don't know what you're referring to?

I'm just saying there is a certain public crassness by MAGAs that seems to me pretty unprecedented at least in scale. I'm sure you could find isolated examples from the past, but Trump seems to have emboldened his supporters to be unabashed assholes. At least where I live it's pretty normal to see a Fuck Biden sticker on vehicles, there are at least two Fuck Biden flags people have up on flag poles at their homes in the town I live in.

Where the fuck do you live bro?? Not a real question as you live and teach in Maine. I live in the middle of the Midwest. I have trouble finding much of what you purport. I'd have to go out to the boonies to look for this stuff you see on the internet... It's like the People of Walmart on Reddit, never seen it in person in a civilized atmosphere.

Where the fuck do you live bro?? Not a real question as you live and teach in Maine. I live in the middle of the Midwest. I have trouble finding much of what you purport. I'd have to go out to the boonies to look for this stuff you see on the internet... It's like the People of Walmart on Reddit, never seen it in person in a civilized atmosphere.