New California declares independence from the rest of the state

Jan 16, 18 18:41

Post #1 of 25 (2544 views)

With the reading of their own version of a Declaration of Independence, founders of the state of New California took the first steps to what they hope will eventually lead to statehood. CBS Sacramento reports they don't want to leave the United States, just California.

"Well, it's been ungovernable for a long time. High taxes, education, you name it, and we're rated around 48th or 50th from a business climate and standpoint in California," said founder Robert Paul Preston.

The state of New California would incorporate most of the state's rural counties, leaving the urban coastal counties to the current state of California.

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Last edited by: rick_pcfl: Jan 16, 18 18:41

Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [rick_pcfl] [ In reply to ]

Jan 16, 18 18:50

Post #2 of 25 (2527 views)

Rookies.

There have been around a dozen different groups constantly proposing splitting up California for about as long as California has existed. Even before it was a state, actually. And this is not the first movement to do it "by the book." (as opposed to what, declaring civil war?) The Draper group is still active with their proposed ballot measure.

Unfortunately like many libertarian movements, they can't all agree on combining into one collective effort, so they're forever factions competing against each other.

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Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [rick_pcfl] [ In reply to ]

Jan 16, 18 19:22

Post #3 of 25 (2489 views)

Here is more info if you want your county to join New California!

https://newcaliforniastate.com/add-your-county-1

It's easy, apparently all you need are a couple of friends, an "Ambassador" from New California, Find a meeting room, read a charter, and have your friends vote! It's super easy, I propose that we get every single county to secede from Old California and form New California! Then we can elect a governor and legislature, and then they can pass all sorts of laws. That should fix everything!

Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [rick_pcfl] [ In reply to ]

Jan 16, 18 20:15

Post #4 of 25 (2445 views)

ha ha my state has all the water. We'll turn the coast into a shithole!

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Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [last tri in 83] [ In reply to ]

Jan 16, 18 20:24

Post #5 of 25 (2434 views)

last tri in 83 wrote:

ha ha my state has all the water. We'll turn the coast into a bigger shithole!

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Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [last tri in 83] [ In reply to ]

Jan 16, 18 20:28

Post #6 of 25 (2428 views)

ha ha my state has all the water. We'll turn the coast into a shithole!
//

We are building desal plants here on the coast, and I hear our toilets will be flushing to Bakersfield or thereabouts. Here it mixes good with all that black oil in the ground there. Perhaps you guys can then sort it apart and sell one for fertilizer to the Harris farms, and the oil can go, well it can maybe be sold to Texas as we won't need it anymore!!!!

Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [rick_pcfl] [ In reply to ]

Jan 16, 18 20:41

Post #7 of 25 (2418 views)

After the latest gas tax increase the only hope for CA is succession or revolution and the democrats have too much to gain by avoiding a revolution. We can't even keep criminals in jail for a day. It's a freaking nightmare.

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Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [jkca1] [ In reply to ]

Jan 16, 18 21:14

Post #8 of 25 (2398 views)

Quote:

It's a freaking nightmare.

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Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [monty] [ In reply to ]

Jan 16, 18 21:44

Post #9 of 25 (2381 views)

monty wrote:

ha ha my state has all the water. We'll turn the coast into a shithole!
//

We are building desal plants here on the coast, and I hear our toilets will be flushing to Bakersfield or thereabouts. Here it mixes good with all that black oil in the ground there. Perhaps you guys can then sort it apart and sell one for fertilizer to the Harris farms, and the oil can go, well it can maybe be sold to Texas as we won't need it anymore!!!!

If a toiler flushes to Bakersfield will anyone notice?

Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [oldandslow] [ In reply to ]

Jan 17, 18 5:49

Post #10 of 25 (2263 views)

oldandslow wrote:

Quote:

It's a freaking nightmare.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's great! :-)

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [rick_pcfl] [ In reply to ]

Jan 17, 18 5:51

Post #11 of 25 (2258 views)

Does "New California" have any natural resources or industrial base or the like that would help it support itself, or are we looking at Mississippi, just with more scenic natural beauty? And more teeth in people's mouths. ;-)

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [rick_pcfl] [ In reply to ]

Jan 17, 18 5:59

Post #12 of 25 (2244 views)

New California....how original. At least come up with a creative name.

Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [AndysStrongAle] [ In reply to ]

Jan 17, 18 6:36

Post #13 of 25 (2206 views)

AndysStrongAle wrote:

New California....how original. At least come up with a creative name.

How creative could they be? After all, all the creative places in California would be in the yellow "Old California" areas. ;-)

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Jan 17, 18 8:41

Post #14 of 25 (2127 views)

New California gets all the meth labs. Old California keeps Palm trees and waves. Ok!

Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [ChrisM] [ In reply to ]

Jan 17, 18 13:53

Post #15 of 25 (2039 views)

Are they really seceding from "Old" CA or maybe just renaming the state and kicking those guys out?

I was in my LRC last fall, and I saw a T-shirt that said "South Jersey: the 51st State"

It was nicely designed, but I thought, 'maybe the people from Puerto Rico or Washington DC deserve 51st State status more than we do?'

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Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [RandMart] [ In reply to ]

Jan 17, 18 15:28

Post #16 of 25 (1982 views)

i though we (Canada) were the 51st state?

Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [last tri in 83] [ In reply to ]

Jan 17, 18 16:12

Post #17 of 25 (1948 views)

State of Jefferson. Concepts been around for a while. Not going to happen

Steve

Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [Steve Hawley] [ In reply to ]

Jan 17, 18 16:15

Post #18 of 25 (1942 views)

It does underscore the growing rift between urban and rural priorities though.

Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [racin_rusty] [ In reply to ]

Jan 17, 18 16:19

Post #19 of 25 (1940 views)

racin_rusty wrote:

It does underscore the growing rift between urban and rural priorities though.

I almost think the US could be happily split into two countries - blue and red based on voting patterns. That's probably what we'd have today if the south had won the Civil War.

Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [racin_rusty] [ In reply to ]

Jan 17, 18 16:27

Post #20 of 25 (1935 views)

Yes. This. To me this is increasingly the divide I see. Urban vs Rural. So for example here in GA there is a preponderance of counties that are Red and very conservative. Then you have ATL and Columbus which are big blue dots that increasingly drive the agenda State-wide even tho geographically they are very small. Lots of FSA in these blue dots.

Steve

Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [Steve Hawley] [ In reply to ]

Jan 17, 18 17:28

Post #21 of 25 (1901 views)

Yeah, last year Atlanta had the second highest GDP growth of all metro areas in the US (FSA = Financially Superlative Activity?)

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Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [oldandslow] [ In reply to ]

Jan 17, 18 17:46

Post #22 of 25 (1881 views)

thanks for updating me on what's going on here in my State

you go Girl!

Steve

Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [cerveloguy] [ In reply to ]

Jan 17, 18 18:14

Post #23 of 25 (1858 views)

cerveloguy wrote:

racin_rusty wrote:

It does underscore the growing rift between urban and rural priorities though.

I almost think the US could be happily split into two countries - blue and red based on voting patterns. That's probably what we'd have today if the south had won the Civil War.

We?

Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [SH] [ In reply to ]

Jan 17, 18 20:11

Post #24 of 25 (1807 views)

SH wrote:

cerveloguy wrote:

racin_rusty wrote:

It does underscore the growing rift between urban and rural priorities though.

I almost think the US could be happily split into two countries - blue and red based on voting patterns. That's probably what we'd have today if the south had won the Civil War.

We?

"We" referred to a world situation. There would be an extra country in the world if the USA was divided in two after the Civil War. You have to think more globally. :-)

Re: New California declares independence from the rest of the state [cerveloguy] [ In reply to ]

Jan 18, 18 3:31

Post #25 of 25 (1415 views)

cerveloguy wrote:

SH wrote:

cerveloguy wrote:

racin_rusty wrote:

It does underscore the growing rift between urban and rural priorities though.

I almost think the US could be happily split into two countries - blue and red based on voting patterns. That's probably what we'd have today if the south had won the Civil War.

We?

"We" referred to a world situation. There would be an extra country in the world if the USA was divided in two after the Civil War. You have to think more globally. :-)

Just making sure. =)

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