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Is cruelty, betrayal, and unadulterated stupidity a prerequisite for her job? Seems so.

Kristi Noem Admits To Shooting One Of Her Dogs
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"The South Dakota governor said she hated her dog, named Cricket, because she was aggressive and "less than worthless" for hunting."

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DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Is cruelty, betrayal, and unadulterated stupidity a prerequisite for her job? Seems so.

Kristi Noem Admits To Shooting One Of Her Dogs
https://www.huffpost.com/...d039e4b0ab66ede47cd8

"The South Dakota governor said she hated her dog, named Cricket, because she was aggressive and "less than worthless" for hunting."


Yes I believe it is. Thank you for raising this important issue. Keep up the good work. Thumbs up !!
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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That is incredibly sick and disturbing.

Did she also say she likes to start fires?
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [Tylertri] [ In reply to ]
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Yes I believe it is. Thank you for raising this important issue. Keep up the good work. Thumbs up !!

Don't you have an enormous Biden crime family criminal conspiracy to uncover?

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Is cruelty, betrayal, and unadulterated stupidity a prerequisite for her job? Seems so.

Kristi Noem Admits To Shooting One Of Her Dogs
https://www.huffpost.com/...d039e4b0ab66ede47cd8

"The South Dakota governor said she hated her dog, named Cricket, because she was aggressive and "less than worthless" for hunting."

Good job skipping the rest of what she said about the dog.
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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That is very sad and screwed up from my point of view but I was not raised on a farm where killing animals is an everyday occurrence. I would never kill a dog unless it was trying to kill me or my kids, or one of my other dogs, but country people are different.


My dad grew up on a farm and his mom would grab a chicken for dinner, ring its neck in front of the kids and have them puck the feathers off its dead body.

Apparently they had cats they would call barn cats that would eat the mice and keep the rodent population under control. They didnt' feed the barn cats or treat them as pets. The barn cats would mate and my grandfather would take the litter of kittens, put them in a sack with a brick and throw them in the river. Can't have too many cats running around. When I heard that story, I was pissed at grandpa and basically didn't want to see him anymore when I was a kid. I learned as I got older that farm people are just a little different about pets and animals than I am.
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Tylertri wrote:
Yes I believe it is. Thank you for raising this important issue. Keep up the good work. Thumbs up !!

Don't you have an enormous Biden crime family criminal conspiracy to uncover?

I don’t but thanks for asking and keep up the good work. Thumbs up !!
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Tylertri wrote:
DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Tylertri wrote:
Yes I believe it is. Thank you for raising this important issue. Keep up the good work. Thumbs up !!

Don't you have an enormous Biden crime family criminal conspiracy to uncover?

I don’t but thanks for asking and keep up the good work. Thumbs up !!

Wait, you're saying Biden is innocent?!

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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Tylertri wrote:
DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Tylertri wrote:
Yes I believe it is. Thank you for raising this important issue. Keep up the good work. Thumbs up !!

Don't you have an enormous Biden crime family criminal conspiracy to uncover?

I don’t but thanks for asking and keep up the good work. Thumbs up !!

Wait, you're saying Biden is innocent?!


Of course. He’s just out doing what’s right for America. Have a good rest of your day and good luck !! Gotta go.
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [Tylertri] [ In reply to ]
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Tylertri wrote:
DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Tylertri wrote:
DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Tylertri wrote:
Yes I believe it is. Thank you for raising this important issue. Keep up the good work. Thumbs up !!

Don't you have an enormous Biden crime family criminal conspiracy to uncover?

I don’t but thanks for asking and keep up the good work. Thumbs up !!

Wait, you're saying Biden is innocent?!


Of course. He’s just out doing what’s right for America. Have a good rest of your day and good luck !! Gotta go.

Finally, we agree (a 2nd time).

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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [svennn] [ In reply to ]
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svennn wrote:
DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Is cruelty, betrayal, and unadulterated stupidity a prerequisite for her job? Seems so.

Kristi Noem Admits To Shooting One Of Her Dogs
https://www.huffpost.com/...d039e4b0ab66ede47cd8

"The South Dakota governor said she hated her dog, named Cricket, because she was aggressive and "less than worthless" for hunting."

Good job skipping the rest of what she said about the dog.

How many of your dogs have you shot? She also dragging her goat to a gravel pit and shooting it. Do you usually shoot your goats?
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Nutella wrote:
svennn wrote:
DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Is cruelty, betrayal, and unadulterated stupidity a prerequisite for her job? Seems so.

Kristi Noem Admits To Shooting One Of Her Dogs
https://www.huffpost.com/...d039e4b0ab66ede47cd8

"The South Dakota governor said she hated her dog, named Cricket, because she was aggressive and "less than worthless" for hunting."


Good job skipping the rest of what she said about the dog.


How many of your dogs have you shot? She also dragging her goat to a gravel pit and shooting it. Do you usually shoot your goats?

I bet farm people normally slit their goat's throats so as not to need a bullet. Cabrito is some good eating.
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [Nutella] [ In reply to ]
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Nutella wrote:
svennn wrote:
DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Is cruelty, betrayal, and unadulterated stupidity a prerequisite for her job? Seems so.

Kristi Noem Admits To Shooting One Of Her Dogs
https://www.huffpost.com/...d039e4b0ab66ede47cd8

"The South Dakota governor said she hated her dog, named Cricket, because she was aggressive and "less than worthless" for hunting."

Good job skipping the rest of what she said about the dog.

How many of your dogs have you shot? She also dragging her goat to a gravel pit and shooting it. Do you usually shoot your goats?

Deplorable. Makes Romney look like a saint.
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [Tylertri] [ In reply to ]
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Tylertri wrote:
Nutella wrote:
svennn wrote:
DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Is cruelty, betrayal, and unadulterated stupidity a prerequisite for her job? Seems so.

Kristi Noem Admits To Shooting One Of Her Dogs
https://www.huffpost.com/...d039e4b0ab66ede47cd8

"The South Dakota governor said she hated her dog, named Cricket, because she was aggressive and "less than worthless" for hunting."


Good job skipping the rest of what she said about the dog.


How many of your dogs have you shot? She also dragging her goat to a gravel pit and shooting it. Do you usually shoot your goats?


Deplorable. Makes Romney look like a saint.

didn't someone shoot Cheney? He's not a goat or a dog.
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [svennn] [ In reply to ]
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Good job skipping the rest of what she said about the dog.


She did say it was "dangerous to anyone she came in contact with," but there was no example (in that article) of the dog ever having a negative interaction with a person. Despite an example of it being dangerous to chickens. Granted the article makes no pretense of being fair to Noem.


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We love animals, but tough decisions like this happen all the time on a farm. Sadly, we just had to put down 3 horses a few weeks ago that had been in our family for 25 years.


If you want more real, honest, and politically INcorrect stories that’ll have the media gasping, preorder....

Using putting your family horses down to drum up clicks to your book...which has a story about shooting your dog in a gravel pit....

I get it - a useful tactic to generate social media likes and clicks, provoking the DSW's of the world to go into a frenzy of propagating your posts so then your fans can be titillated by the "gasping" and get some more books sales in the process.

And maybe both the dog and the horses were completely normal farm life events in reality. But this is not a thing good people do, using your putting down of beloved family horses to drum up some book sales.

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trail wrote:
svennn wrote:


Good job skipping the rest of what she said about the dog.


She did say it was "dangerous to anyone she came in contact with," but there was no example (in that article) of the dog ever having a negative interaction with a person. Despite an example of it being dangerous to chickens. Granted the article makes no pretense of being fair to Noem.


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We love animals, but tough decisions like this happen all the time on a farm. Sadly, we just had to put down 3 horses a few weeks ago that had been in our family for 25 years.


If you want more real, honest, and politically INcorrect stories that’ll have the media gasping, preorder....


Using putting your family horses down to drum up clicks to your book...which has a story about shooting your dog in a gravel pit....

I get it - a useful tactic to generate social media likes and clicks, provoking the DSW's of the world to go into a frenzy of propagating your posts so then your fans can be titillated by the "gasping" and get some more books sales in the process.

And maybe both the dog and the horses were completely normal farm life events in reality. But this is not a thing good people do, using your putting down of beloved family horses to drum up some book sales.

When ever I read a quote like DSW posted I start hunting around to see if it's true. In my experience, if it seems too crazy to be true, there is usually more to the story.

She might still be a bad person, but this story has more context that matters.
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Is cruelty, betrayal, and unadulterated stupidity a prerequisite for her job? Seems so.

Kristi Noem Admits To Shooting One Of Her Dogs
https://www.huffpost.com/...d039e4b0ab66ede47cd8

"The South Dakota governor said she hated her dog, named Cricket, because she was aggressive and "less than worthless" for hunting."

Maybe she should replace Harris as VP. Seems the Biden family could use someone to help out with their dog.
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this story has more context that matters.


True, it totally left out the fact she killed three horse and a goat too and the fact that the puppy that she killed was only 14 months old. He also left out the quote from Noem's daughter .......“Hey, where’s Cricket?”.

Do you think she is trying to get attention for the VP spot?
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [grindmonkey] [ In reply to ]
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grindmonkey wrote:
DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Is cruelty, betrayal, and unadulterated stupidity a prerequisite for her job? Seems so.

Kristi Noem Admits To Shooting One Of Her Dogs
https://www.huffpost.com/...d039e4b0ab66ede47cd8

"The South Dakota governor said she hated her dog, named Cricket, because she was aggressive and "less than worthless" for hunting."


Maybe she should replace Harris as VP. Seems the Biden family could use someone to help out with their dog.

Commander has probably crossed that golden bridge to Valhalla by now. Little bastard was trying to eat all the secret service guys. I blame it on Biden. There are no bad dogs, just bad dog owners.
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [Nutella] [ In reply to ]
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Nutella wrote:
svennn wrote:

this story has more context that matters.


True, it totally left out the fact she killed three horse and a goat too and the fact that the puppy that she killed was only 14 months old. He also left out the quote from Noem's daughter .......“Hey, where’s Cricket?”.

Do you think she is trying to get attention for the VP spot?


Safe bet that we'll be treated to all of Trump's potential VP picks trying to outdo each other's "I killed my animal/pet/loved one" stories.

That said, I'm guessing Ted Cruz takes the win:


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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [SDG] [ In reply to ]
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There are no bad dogs, just bad dog owners.


Good point, probably why so many people are disturbed by Noem killing her 14 month old puppy

I am sure her writing about it in her book has nothing to do with this.

Donald Trump hates dogs. Here's what that means | British GQ (gq-magazine.co.uk)
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [Nutella] [ In reply to ]
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Nutella wrote:
svennn wrote:

this story has more context that matters.


True, it totally left out the fact she killed three horse and a goat too and the fact that the puppy that she killed was only 14 months old. He also left out the quote from Noem's daughter .......“Hey, where’s Cricket?”.

Do you think she is trying to get attention for the VP spot?

I have no idea if she is or not.

I do know she was born and raised in SD and grew up on the family ranch. If she felt like her dog needed to be put down I'll take her word for it.

Think she has ever killed a wolf?
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [Nutella] [ In reply to ]
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Nutella wrote:
SDG wrote:
There are no bad dogs, just bad dog owners.


Good point, probably why so many people are disturbed by Noem killing her 14 month old puppy

I am sure her writing about it in her book has nothing to do with this.

Donald Trump hates dogs. Here's what that means | British GQ (gq-magazine.co.uk)


Already said Noem seems like a cold person, but then again, farm people.

You are taking some license with the article about Trump. His ex wife said he didn't like their poodle because it barked at him. Oh well.

He used the term died like a dog, fired like a dog, tired like a dog etc. Those are all pretty common sayings, doesn't really mean he hates dogs.

If he had a dog that was biting people, then indeed he would be a bad dog owner, just like Biden.
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [SDG] [ In reply to ]
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SDG wrote:
There are no bad dogs, just bad dog owners.

Exactly this.

And there sure are one hell of a lot of bad dog owners.

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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [geetee] [ In reply to ]
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geetee wrote:
Nutella wrote:
svennn wrote:

this story has more context that matters.


True, it totally left out the fact she killed three horse and a goat too and the fact that the puppy that she killed was only 14 months old. He also left out the quote from Noem's daughter .......“Hey, where’s Cricket?”.

Do you think she is trying to get attention for the VP spot?


Safe bet that we'll be treated to all of Trump's potential VP picks trying to outdo each other's "I killed my animal/pet/loved one" stories.

That said, I'm guessing Ted Cruz takes the win:



That’s the safest bet I’ve seen all day. Thumbs up !!
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [SDG] [ In reply to ]
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SDG wrote:
Tylertri wrote:
Nutella wrote:
svennn wrote:
DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Is cruelty, betrayal, and unadulterated stupidity a prerequisite for her job? Seems so.

Kristi Noem Admits To Shooting One Of Her Dogs
https://www.huffpost.com/...d039e4b0ab66ede47cd8

"The South Dakota governor said she hated her dog, named Cricket, because she was aggressive and "less than worthless" for hunting."


Good job skipping the rest of what she said about the dog.


How many of your dogs have you shot? She also dragging her goat to a gravel pit and shooting it. Do you usually shoot your goats?


Deplorable. Makes Romney look like a saint.

didn't someone shoot Cheney? He's not a goat or a dog.

I believe Cheney was the shooter vs the shootee
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [Tylertri] [ In reply to ]
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"How powerful a man do you have to be, to shoot someone in the face, and have that guy say 'My bad'?" - Jon Stewart

"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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The LR sure is telling...

Defending Noem: practically foaming at the mouth!

Defending democracy: crickets.
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [axlsix3] [ In reply to ]
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The LR sure is telling...

Defending Noem: practically foaming at the mouth!

Defending democracy: crickets.


Great point. Totally !!
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
"How powerful a man do you have to be, to shoot someone in the face, and have that guy say 'My bad'?" - Jon Stewart


Still amazed that dudes ticker lasted 8 years. Unbelievable he’s still going
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [Tylertri] [ In reply to ]
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Tylertri wrote:
axlsix3 wrote:
The LR sure is telling...

Defending Noem: practically foaming at the mouth!

Defending democracy: crickets.



Great point. Totally !!


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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]
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Kay Serrar wrote:
Tylertri wrote:
axlsix3 wrote:
The LR sure is telling...

Defending Noem: practically foaming at the mouth!

Defending democracy: crickets.



Great point. Totally !!



Have a nice night.
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [Tylertri] [ In reply to ]
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I am in SD. I grew up on a farm, still farm and I have shot my dogs. I have no idea what you do in a city with an old and or dangerous dog. Come down to Pine Ridge and please adopt a few hundred rez dogs.
Did you know the Oglala Sioux have Pup stew?
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [chuckhead] [ In reply to ]
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I am in SD. I grew up on a farm, still farm and I have shot my dogs. I have no idea what you do in a city with an old and or dangerous dog. Come down to Pine Ridge and please adopt a few hundred rez dogs.
Did you know the Oglala Sioux have Pup stew?
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My dad shot our old dog when I was a kid

Took him out hunting. Sent him down the trail. Dog left this world doing what he loved and was born to do

I couldn’t do that.
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chuckhead wrote:
I am in SD. I grew up on a farm, still farm and I have shot my dogs. I have no idea what you do in a city with an old and or dangerous dog. Come down to Pine Ridge and please adopt a few hundred rez dogs.
Did you know the Oglala Sioux have Pup stew?
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Ethics vary by location. In a US city it’s not ok to shoot a healthy dog. If you can’t raise it properly, you take it to a shelter or try to get it adopted by someone who can take care of it.
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [ike] [ In reply to ]
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People absolutely love dogs though , and although different cultures have different relationships with dogs , people generally do not want to hear about people killing healthy dogs.
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chuckhead wrote:
I am in SD. I grew up on a farm, still farm and I have shot my dogs. I have no idea what you do in a city with an old and or dangerous dog. Come down to Pine Ridge and please adopt a few hundred rez dogs.
Did you know the Oglala Sioux have Pup stew?
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Ethics vary by location. In a US city it’s not ok to shoot a healthy dog. If you can’t raise it properly, you take it to a shelter or try to get it adopted by someone who can take care of it.

Regardless of location, there’s a big difference between killing an animal to eat it and killing an animal because you’re too lazy to properly take care of it. Kristi Noem is clear about her reasons. What she did was waste one of God’s creatures.
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From the excerpt it seems like she was saying that she “is a person to make the hard, unlikeable positions.”

But the excerpts say the dog was “untrainable” and Less than worthless. If it only said something like “the dog was vicious” people likely would have been understanding.

From the excerpt it seems like the dog (and goat) were killed because they were a hassle.

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But it's his property. It's his dogs. If that's what he wants to do, do it. - Clinton portis
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I thought canine begins at conception
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [sosayusall] [ In reply to ]
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From the excerpt it seems like she was saying that she “is a person to make the hard, unlikeable positions.”

But the excerpts say the dog was “untrainable” and Less than worthless. If it only said something like “the dog was vicious” people likely would have been understanding.

From the excerpt it seems like the dog (and goat) were killed because they were a hassle.

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But it's his property. It's his dogs. If that's what he wants to do, do it. - Clinton portis

Well, worthless for hunting purposes does not make a dog worthless. Her opinion about it being “untrainable” would mean a little more if that opinion came from a professional trainer she had hired. The fact that she could not train the dog does not mean no one could train it.
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Oh I agree. This somewhat reminds me of Michael Vick. Where the dogs were killed if they couldn’t fight. (They were worthless). Different cultures view dogs differently.

Being part of a culture that was different than mine was, Clinton Portis saying you should be able to do whatever you wanted with your own dogs. Essentially somewhat confirming the dog fighting, and killing the dog’s was somewhat common.

People saying that they can kill dogs because they are untrainable or worthless or not good working animals, while different somewhat sounds the same to me.
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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I prefer a V.P. that loves dogs and does not kill them.


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Tylertri wrote:
My dad shot our old dog when I was a kid

Took him out hunting. Sent him down the trail. Dog left this world doing what he loved and was born to do

I couldn’t do that.

Damn, sorry, that sounds tough.

How old were you? How did you react at the time?

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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [sosayusall] [ In reply to ]
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Oh I agree. This somewhat reminds me of Michael Vick. Where the dogs were killed if they couldn’t fight. (They were worthless). Different cultures view dogs differently.

Being part of a culture that was different than mine was, Clinton Portis saying you should be able to do whatever you wanted with your own dogs. Essentially somewhat confirming the dog fighting, and killing the dog’s was somewhat common.

People saying that they can kill dogs because they are untrainable or worthless or not good working animals, while different somewhat sounds the same to me.

Speaking of cultural differences, I recently finished reading the hunting scene in War And Peace. I don’t think Tolstoy meant it as judgmental. It seemed like a matter-of-fact description of “hunting” in early 19th Century Russia (by aristocrats). Today, it feels little different than dog fighting — just watching an animal kill another animal for shits and grins. Not for food, just for entertainment. Training a pack of huge dogs to kill a wolf pup or a rabbit seems barbaric to our sensibilities (well, mine anyhow).
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Tylertri wrote:
My dad shot our old dog when I was a kid

Took him out hunting. Sent him down the trail. Dog left this world doing what he loved and was born to do

I couldn’t do that.

Damn, sorry, that sounds tough.

How old were you? How did you react at the time?

14 Matter of factly

Probably better than when I was 3-4 and he taught the same puppy how to swim. Walked out the back door to where we were playing with it. Picked it up by scruff without breaking stride. Walked to the end of the dock and pitched him out as far as he could. When dog got on shore rinsed and repeated 5-6 times

Dog was a lab. Loved to swim. Loved to hunt. Loved his master. Master loved him to which is why he blasted him on a hunting trail in the back of the head rather than taking him to the vet which dog hated every minute of.

As I said. I couldn’t do it. You decide for yourself who that says more/less about.

Good night !!
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [chuckhead] [ In reply to ]
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I am in SD. I grew up on a farm, still farm and I have shot my dogs. I have no idea what you do in a city with an old and or dangerous dog.

You're kidding, right? You take the dog to the vet, where they put it to sleep peacefully. Been there, done that.

Since you know stuff, please explain why Noem also put down three horses recently, all of which were "with her family for 25 years." Like, three horses all at the same time? That was her explanation for also killing her dog and her goat.

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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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klehner wrote:
chuckhead wrote:
I am in SD. I grew up on a farm, still farm and I have shot my dogs. I have no idea what you do in a city with an old and or dangerous dog.

You're kidding, right? You take the dog to the vet, where they put it to sleep peacefully. Been there, done that.

Since you know stuff, please explain why Noem also put down three horses recently, all of which were "with her family for 25 years." Like, three horses all at the same time? That was her explanation for also killing her dog and her goat.

I think most of us have had to go through that experience with a 10+ year old dog or a sick dog. It is terrible.

Shooting a 14-month-old puppy because the owner was not training it properly is bizarre.
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [Nutella] [ In reply to ]
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Nutella wrote:
klehner wrote:
chuckhead wrote:
I am in SD. I grew up on a farm, still farm and I have shot my dogs. I have no idea what you do in a city with an old and or dangerous dog.


You're kidding, right? You take the dog to the vet, where they put it to sleep peacefully. Been there, done that.

Since you know stuff, please explain why Noem also put down three horses recently, all of which were "with her family for 25 years." Like, three horses all at the same time? That was her explanation for also killing her dog and her goat.


I think most of us have had to go through that experience with a 10+ year old dog or a sick dog. It is terrible.

Shooting a 14-month-old puppy because the owner was not training it properly is bizarre.

If the dog was truly dangerous, an argument could be made that it should be put down. The problem was her calling it a useless, untrainable hunting dog that she hated. None of those things should be relevant in a decision to kill a 14 month old dog.
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chuckhead wrote:
I am in SD. I grew up on a farm, still farm and I have shot my dogs. I have no idea what you do in a city with an old and or dangerous dog.


You're kidding, right? You take the dog to the vet, where they put it to sleep peacefully. Been there, done that.

Since you know stuff, please explain why Noem also put down three horses recently, all of which were "with her family for 25 years." Like, three horses all at the same time? That was her explanation for also killing her dog and her goat.

I don't think that I could shoot my dog when there are other options to put it out of its misery, but there is nothing peaceful about taking my dog to the vet. From the time we get near the vet office until we leave, he is shaking and whining. I don't want his last moments on this earth to be at a place where he is scared and miserable. I have told my wife that if/when the time comes to put him down, I will pay someone to come to our house to do it so that he is where he is happy.
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I am in SD. I grew up on a farm, still farm and I have shot my dogs. I have no idea what you do in a city with an old and or dangerous dog.

You're kidding, right? You take the dog to the vet, where they put it to sleep peacefully. Been there, done that.

Since you know stuff, please explain why Noem also put down three horses recently, all of which were "with her family for 25 years." Like, three horses all at the same time? That was her explanation for also killing her dog and her goat.

In some places, people eat dogs. Also, in some places people eat horses. I think people might eat horse flies, too.

I think this might be another example where respect for life isn’t a simple matter of life/death. How we keep something (or someone alive), how we kill it, and the attendant details and attitudes is at the heart of the matter.

I have said for a long time that killing an embryo is a killing of another human that I don’t necessarily view as unethical. Under the right circumstances and with proper care, some killing is okay. I’m not in charge of making decisions for others, and I respect the ability of women and doctors to make good decisions.

The downfall of MAGA seems to be a lack of respect for our democracy and a lack of respect for life, whether it is the life of a black man and suspicions about him, elderly and vulnerable people during Covid, the life of mothers who are pregnant, the life of an untrained enthusiastic pup, the right of people to be who they want to be, the right to privacy, and the right to love.

Earlier someone said conservatives are people who value civilization and progressives are people who value the wildness of uncivilized behavior. Today, that is not correct. There is nothing civilized about a lack of respect for people or our government institutions or nature or accurate education/ science/ history.
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Deplorable. Which is why they vote for her.
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I am in SD. I grew up on a farm, still farm and I have shot my dogs. I have no idea what you do in a city with an old and or dangerous dog.

You're kidding, right? You take the dog to the vet, where they put it to sleep peacefully. Been there, done that.

Since you know stuff, please explain why Noem also put down three horses recently, all of which were "with her family for 25 years." Like, three horses all at the same time? That was her explanation for also killing her dog and her goat.

I am not defending her action or criticizing them. But there are some nuances within segments of our culture that make some things more palatable than others to certain demographics.

Anyone who has ever had to put a dog down at the vet knows it is not as simple as the dog going to sleep peacefully. It may be more peaceful for the human because you don't have to face the truth of what is happening. You are killing another creature regardless of how it is done. Many are just doing it under a guise that makes them feel better about their action.

While probably not the case here, many farmer or rural land keepers don't have tons of money or want to pay $65-200 to put down a dog when they can do it themselves. Some horses need to also be put down due to injuries, age, health, etc. (Again dont know why her horses needed to be put down) The cost to put down large animals is even higher. With many ranchers and farmers it is a sense that they are responsible their animals and the life and death is their responsibility and not to be "farmed" out to a vet because it would be too tough to do.

Many in the city or suburbs love to eat chicken, pork, beef but could never build the mental capacity to harvest their own animals. Farmers/ranchers it is just part of life. City and suburb folks adopt or purchase dogs and cats (continuing animal markets) with the knowledge that if it doesn't turn out the way they want they can drop it off and make it someone else's problem. And if someone else deems the animal is too much of a liability they have to euthanize (kill) it. No negative consequences for that owner. If they can't get that particular animal to be trained or fit in their lifestyle they dump it on someone else. Barks too much, too much energy for my apartment, doesn't get along with my kids, eats/craps too much, interferes with vacation time... you get the point just drop it off at the humane society.

While it may not be pleasant, and I wouldn't write about it in books or use it to gain popularity, it is a part of certain lifestyles. It may resonate more with rural farmers/ranchers in her state and around the US than it does with the liberal dentist crowd on slowtwitch (who she was never going to win over anyway).
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I think this might be another example where respect for life isn’t a simple matter of life/death. How we keep something (or someone alive), how we kill it, and the attendant details and attitudes is at the heart of the matter.

I have said for a long time that killing an embryo is a killing of another human that I don’t necessarily view as unethical. Under the right circumstances and with proper care, some killing is okay. I’m not in charge of making decisions for others, and I respect the ability of women and doctors to make good decisions.

The downfall of MAGA seems to be a lack of respect for our democracy and a lack of respect for life, whether it is the life of a black man and suspicions about him, elderly and vulnerable people during Covid, the life of mothers who are pregnant, the life of an untrained enthusiastic pup, the right of people to be who they want to be, the right to privacy, and the right to love.
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This resonates along the same lines I was mentioning. One who cares more about the optics of how something is carried out and how it makes them feel versus the actions themselves. People who are ok killing a developing baby as long as it isn't out of the mother yet and dont have to observe the true nature of the death. People who are upset with black people dying when it is pushed as a narrative on the news but not as black people dying everyday in their communities. People who are ok with elderly dying in their homes due to isolation and lack of care during COVID as long as they are not in the hospital on ventilators published in the news.

People who will state:
"Under the right circumstances and with proper care, some killing is okay. I’m not in charge of making decisions for others, and I respect the ability of women and doctors to make good decisions."

People who simultaneously being accepting of a woman killing a developing unborn baby but then second guess the right of a woman to kill a dog after given time to train and learn about it. Sure doesn't sound like someone who respects the ability of women to make good decisions.

And just to clarify, you would be OK with her killing an unborn baby inside her but NOT OK with her killing a dog...... and you think MAGA is the problem with a lack of respect for life?
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We owned goats. Still have chickens. We treated the one goat a couple times. Sooo much cheaper than a domestic dog cat scenario. When they were just too much we found a very large ranch for them and gave the guy all their “kit”.

As far as profit animals, things happen. Otherwise for domestic animals, this one just reeks of “low class”. I grew up in rural NC. Had rural NC family members. None shot domestic animals. My family was quite conservative growing up but still talked down about the local “rednecks and roughnecks”. You can be conservative and civilized.

We heard about folks like this growing up. No doubt this stuff would have gotten the stink eye from my parents.
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grindmonkey wrote:
Barks&Purrs wrote:


I think this might be another example where respect for life isn’t a simple matter of life/death. How we keep something (or someone alive), how we kill it, and the attendant details and attitudes is at the heart of the matter.

I have said for a long time that killing an embryo is a killing of another human that I don’t necessarily view as unethical. Under the right circumstances and with proper care, some killing is okay. I’m not in charge of making decisions for others, and I respect the ability of women and doctors to make good decisions.

The downfall of MAGA seems to be a lack of respect for our democracy and a lack of respect for life, whether it is the life of a black man and suspicions about him, elderly and vulnerable people during Covid, the life of mothers who are pregnant, the life of an untrained enthusiastic pup, the right of people to be who they want to be, the right to privacy, and the right to love.
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This resonates along the same lines I was mentioning. One who cares more about the optics of how something is carried out and how it makes them feel versus the actions themselves. People who are ok killing a developing baby as long as it isn't out of the mother yet and dont have to observe the true nature of the death. People who are upset with black people dying when it is pushed as a narrative on the news but not as black people dying everyday in their communities. People who are ok with elderly dying in their homes due to isolation and lack of care during COVID as long as they are not in the hospital on ventilators published in the news.

People who will state:
"Under the right circumstances and with proper care, some killing is okay. I’m not in charge of making decisions for others, and I respect the ability of women and doctors to make good decisions."

People who simultaneously being accepting of a woman killing a developing unborn baby but then second guess the right of a woman to kill a dog after given time to train and learn about it. Sure doesn't sound like someone who respects the ability of women to make good decisions.

And just to clarify, you would be OK with her killing an unborn baby inside her but NOT OK with her killing a dog...... and you think MAGA is the problem with a lack of respect for life?

To answer your question in bold, I feel fairly confident about the sufficiency of limits placed on doctors and women when they make medical decisions regarding reproductive healthcare, including abortions. I know we have a comprehensive system of medical practitioner education and training, regulations for practicing medicine, and laws for medical malpractice. Abortions are performed in settings that receive a lot of oversight. I don’t think it’s necessary to add a layer of criminal law on top of that to achieve a proper respect for life. I have confidence that even Kristi Noem would face reasonable constraints when she goes to get an abortion. I would trust the system to push back on her if she was trying to get an unethical abortion.

We have reasonable limits for killing puppies, and Kristi Noem’s book might expose her to an animal cruelty investigation. She said a 14 month old puppy was untrainable and she killed it. That doesn’t seem good. But maybe there are more facts. Maybe she was lying in her book about being a hardass and making a tough decision. Maybe it was the right decision and she has a soft heart & that’s why it was tough to kill the puppy. Or maybe it was a tough decision because it was the wrong decision. She killed the puppy without any oversight, but a full investigation might sort out the details.
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Ok this is very funny.

https://x.com/...XKV1ghhjJ-gpfjpVyTqg




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She said a 14 month old puppy was untrainable and she killed it. That doesn’t seem good.

Some folks are trying to deflect to abortion and "black people" but this is really what the issue is. She killed a 14-month-old puppy because she was an incompetent trainer. That is weird.
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Since trump is untrainable and vicious, I wonder if she would be willing to take him out to the gravel pit and put him out of our misery.
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Nutella wrote:
Barks&Purrs wrote:
She said a 14 month old puppy was untrainable and she killed it. That doesn’t seem good.


Some folks are trying to deflect to abortion and "black people" but this is really what the issue is. She killed a 14-month-old puppy because she was an incompetent trainer. That is weird.


Not weird. You are sick if you think what she admitted to is OK. Trying to defend and deflect is abhorrent. For christ’s sake, what is wrong with you people.
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It's one thing to shoot the dog. It's another thing to be proud of doing it, like you are some kind of leader or something because you shot the dog. That is really sick.
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Ok this is very funny.

https://x.com/...XKV1ghhjJ-gpfjpVyTqg

Oh, I forgot she got freaky with Corey Lewandowski. Letting everyone know she killed a puppy distracts from her getting freaky with that scumbag Corey. MAGA "Logic"
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klehner wrote:
chuckhead wrote:
I am in SD. I grew up on a farm, still farm and I have shot my dogs. I have no idea what you do in a city with an old and or dangerous dog.

You're kidding, right? You take the dog to the vet, where they put it to sleep peacefully. Been there, done that.

Since you know stuff, please explain why Noem also put down three horses recently, all of which were "with her family for 25 years." Like, three horses all at the same time? That was her explanation for also killing her dog and her goat.

I am not defending her action or criticizing them. But there are some nuances within segments of our culture that make some things more palatable than others to certain demographics.

Anyone who has ever had to put a dog down at the vet knows it is not as simple as the dog going to sleep peacefully. It may be more peaceful for the human because you don't have to face the truth of what is happening. You are killing another creature regardless of how it is done. Many are just doing it under a guise that makes them feel better about their action.

While probably not the case here, many farmer or rural land keepers don't have tons of money or want to pay $65-200 to put down a dog when they can do it themselves. Some horses need to also be put down due to injuries, age, health, etc. (Again dont know why her horses needed to be put down) The cost to put down large animals is even higher. With many ranchers and farmers it is a sense that they are responsible their animals and the life and death is their responsibility and not to be "farmed" out to a vet because it would be too tough to do.

Many in the city or suburbs love to eat chicken, pork, beef but could never build the mental capacity to harvest their own animals. Farmers/ranchers it is just part of life. City and suburb folks adopt or purchase dogs and cats (continuing animal markets) with the knowledge that if it doesn't turn out the way they want they can drop it off and make it someone else's problem. And if someone else deems the animal is too much of a liability they have to euthanize (kill) it. No negative consequences for that owner. If they can't get that particular animal to be trained or fit in their lifestyle they dump it on someone else. Barks too much, too much energy for my apartment, doesn't get along with my kids, eats/craps too much, interferes with vacation time... you get the point just drop it off at the humane society.

While it may not be pleasant, and I wouldn't write about it in books or use it to gain popularity, it is a part of certain lifestyles. It may resonate more with rural farmers/ranchers in her state and around the US than it does with the liberal dentist crowd on slowtwitch (who she was never going to win over anyway).

For most, the issue is not about how the animal was killed, but why, as well as the animal’s age and health.
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Anyone who has ever had to put a dog down at the vet knows it is not as simple as the dog going to sleep peacefully. It may be more peaceful for the human because you don't have to face the truth of what is happening. You are killing another creature regardless of how it is done.
Killing/euthanizing (with a bullet or an injection) an animal that is terminally ill or in terrible pain might be warranted and doing that is completely understood by sane people. But Noem, not being sane, did not do that. No, she killed a perfectly happy and healthy dog for no f*cking reason. Why? Because she could. She couldn't even be bothered to give it up for adoption.



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It may resonate more with rural farmers/ranchers in her state and around the US than it does with the liberal dentist crowd on slowtwitch
Man, why do so many people despise dentists? Also, not all dentists are liberal. Where do you think trumpers go to get their teeth fixed?

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klehner wrote:
chuckhead wrote:
I am in SD. I grew up on a farm, still farm and I have shot my dogs. I have no idea what you do in a city with an old and or dangerous dog.


You're kidding, right? You take the dog to the vet, where they put it to sleep peacefully. Been there, done that.

Since you know stuff, please explain why Noem also put down three horses recently, all of which were "with her family for 25 years." Like, three horses all at the same time? That was her explanation for also killing her dog and her goat.


I think most of us have had to go through that experience with a 10+ year old dog or a sick dog. It is terrible.

Shooting a 14-month-old puppy because the owner was not training it properly is bizarre.

We have an 11-month old Havanese puppy who is a real pain in the ass to train. We will do everything we can to get him trained, but we will not abuse him and we will not kill him if he doesn't come around. We'll just keep working at it and get help where needed until he does. This woman is evil if the only reason she killed a 14-month puppy was because she couldn't train him. The puppy was nothing more than an object of her amusement that didn't amuse her so she discarded it.

I really hope there is more to this story than her killing a dog who she couldn't train. If not, it's really fucking scary that this piece of shit is a governor.

We've had 2 shelties we had to put to sleep, the first was 13 yrs, and the second was 15 yrs, both with no quality of life left. Almost nothing worse than taking the dog your son grew up with to the vet to put him to sleep. I couldn't do it any other way.

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Almost nothing worse than taking the dog your son grew up with to the vet to put him to sleep.

You may wish to edit that. =:-o
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Almost nothing worse than taking the dog your son grew up with to the vet to put him to sleep.

You may wish to edit that. =:-o

Watching my mother die was worse, that’s why I put almost.

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We have a 8 month old puppy - working cocker.

My wife has been relentless in training him; heel, sit, stay, break, crate trained

He is house trained but recently he was getting up earlier and earlier and we were out of ideas, she has been following various puppy training / dog training professionals and in the end we had to get some 1:1 coaching from a friend of a friend.

Its interesting how certain approaches to training dogs are extremely divisive but he is mostly well behaved aside from jsut behaving like a puppy.
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DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Tylertri wrote:
My dad shot our old dog when I was a kid

Took him out hunting. Sent him down the trail. Dog left this world doing what he loved and was born to do

I couldn’t do that.
Damn, sorry, that sounds tough.

How old were you? How did you react at the time?
14 Matter of factly

Probably better than when I was 3-4 and he taught the same puppy how to swim. Walked out the back door to where we were playing with it. Picked it up by scruff without breaking stride. Walked to the end of the dock and pitched him out as far as he could. When dog got on shore rinsed and repeated 5-6 times

Dog was a lab. Loved to swim. Loved to hunt. Loved his master. Master loved him to which is why he blasted him on a hunting trail in the back of the head rather than taking him to the vet which dog hated every minute of.

As I said. I couldn’t do it. You decide for yourself who that says more/less about.

Good night !!

Good morning. Did you grow up on a farm or in the suburbs? In what state, or near what city? What was the reason that your dad killed your dog, was your dog sick or dying?

What was the reason that your dad threw your dog in the water? Do dogs need to be taught how to swim? I thought that most dogs instinctively know how to swim, or is that incorrect? How did you react when you were 4 and watched your dad throw your puppy repeatedly in the water like that?

Did your father teach you (or your siblings) how to swim?

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klehner wrote:
chuckhead wrote:
I am in SD. I grew up on a farm, still farm and I have shot my dogs. I have no idea what you do in a city with an old and or dangerous dog.


You're kidding, right? You take the dog to the vet, where they put it to sleep peacefully. Been there, done that.

Since you know stuff, please explain why Noem also put down three horses recently, all of which were "with her family for 25 years." Like, three horses all at the same time? That was her explanation for also killing her dog and her goat.

I don't think that I could shoot my dog when there are other options to put it out of its misery, but there is nothing peaceful about taking my dog to the vet. From the time we get near the vet office until we leave, he is shaking and whining. I don't want his last moments on this earth to be at a place where he is scared and miserable. I have told my wife that if/when the time comes to put him down, I will pay someone to come to our house to do it so that he is where he is happy.

It's not that expensive, and the vet takes them to get cremated. Then you choose either to keep ashes or get them in a degradable container to bury. We did this for my sister's beagle and our cats. For my sister's beagle we made him all his favorite human foods the morning of and found the bottom of his stomach for the first time ever (a bowl full of cut up bacon and a plate of mostaccioli were two of the many items we fed him). His appetite was legendary even for a beagle. Then the vet showed up and he passed at his home being held by us. This was much better than the sterile and fearful environment of going in to the vet.
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This is how my Newfoundland shuffled off this mortal coil; wrapped in a blanket smelling of me, holding his head. Loved that dog more than most people I know. He had terminal leukaemia; not just a pain in there ass to train, I should add.
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TheRef65 wrote:
Nutella wrote:
klehner wrote:
chuckhead wrote:
I am in SD. I grew up on a farm, still farm and I have shot my dogs. I have no idea what you do in a city with an old and or dangerous dog.


You're kidding, right? You take the dog to the vet, where they put it to sleep peacefully. Been there, done that.

Since you know stuff, please explain why Noem also put down three horses recently, all of which were "with her family for 25 years." Like, three horses all at the same time? That was her explanation for also killing her dog and her goat.


I think most of us have had to go through that experience with a 10+ year old dog or a sick dog. It is terrible.

Shooting a 14-month-old puppy because the owner was not training it properly is bizarre.


We have an 11-month old Havanese puppy who is a real pain in the ass to train. We will do everything we can to get him trained, but we will not abuse him and we will not kill him if he doesn't come around. We'll just keep working at it and get help where needed until he does. This woman is evil if the only reason she killed a 14-month puppy was because she couldn't train him. The puppy was nothing more than an object of her amusement that didn't amuse her so she discarded it.

I really hope there is more to this story than her killing a dog who she couldn't train. If not, it's really fucking scary that this piece of shit is a governor.

We've had 2 shelties we had to put to sleep, the first was 13 yrs, and the second was 15 yrs, both with no quality of life left. Almost nothing worse than taking the dog your son grew up with to the vet to put him to sleep. I couldn't do it any other way.

It's been close to 10 years, but having to put down two elderly Saint Bernards within a few years of each other still haunts me. I still second guess myself. And I still vividly remember holding them both -- the vet offered that I could leave, but I had to be there with them. I still tear up.

For her to tell the story in order to brag about how she is capable of making tough decisions -- fuck her. Most of us have to make difficult decisions at one point or another. And a 14-month puppy. Because he ruined a hunt? And then killed a chicken?

Not to mention that the c*** is incapable of putting down a goat with one shot.

That her daughter came home just after and asked where the dog was? And she turns this into a story for some shit political book that's only purpose is to market her as a potential VP? Fuck her!
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RogerC39 wrote:
TheRef65 wrote:
Nutella wrote:
klehner wrote:
chuckhead wrote:
I am in SD. I grew up on a farm, still farm and I have shot my dogs. I have no idea what you do in a city with an old and or dangerous dog.


You're kidding, right? You take the dog to the vet, where they put it to sleep peacefully. Been there, done that.

Since you know stuff, please explain why Noem also put down three horses recently, all of which were "with her family for 25 years." Like, three horses all at the same time? That was her explanation for also killing her dog and her goat.


I think most of us have had to go through that experience with a 10+ year old dog or a sick dog. It is terrible.

Shooting a 14-month-old puppy because the owner was not training it properly is bizarre.


We have an 11-month old Havanese puppy who is a real pain in the ass to train. We will do everything we can to get him trained, but we will not abuse him and we will not kill him if he doesn't come around. We'll just keep working at it and get help where needed until he does. This woman is evil if the only reason she killed a 14-month puppy was because she couldn't train him. The puppy was nothing more than an object of her amusement that didn't amuse her so she discarded it.

I really hope there is more to this story than her killing a dog who she couldn't train. If not, it's really fucking scary that this piece of shit is a governor.

We've had 2 shelties we had to put to sleep, the first was 13 yrs, and the second was 15 yrs, both with no quality of life left. Almost nothing worse than taking the dog your son grew up with to the vet to put him to sleep. I couldn't do it any other way.


It's been close to 10 years, but having to put down two elderly Saint Bernards within a few years of each other still haunts me. I still second guess myself. And I still vividly remember holding them both -- the vet offered that I could leave, but I had to be there with them. I still tear up.

For her to tell the story in order to brag about how she is capable of making tough decisions -- fuck her. Most of us have to make difficult decisions at one point or another. And a 14-month puppy. Because he ruined a hunt? And then killed a chicken?

Not to mention that the c*** is incapable of putting down a goat with one shot.

That her daughter came home just after and asked where the dog was? And she turns this into a story for some shit political book that's only purpose is to market her as a potential VP? Fuck her!

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I am in SD. I grew up on a farm, still farm and I have shot my dogs. I have no idea what you do in a city with an old and or dangerous dog.


You're kidding, right? You take the dog to the vet, where they put it to sleep peacefully. Been there, done that.

Since you know stuff, please explain why Noem also put down three horses recently, all of which were "with her family for 25 years." Like, three horses all at the same time? That was her explanation for also killing her dog and her goat.


I am not defending her action or criticizing them. But there are some nuances within segments of our culture that make some things more palatable than others to certain demographics.

Anyone who has ever had to put a dog down at the vet knows it is not as simple as the dog going to sleep peacefully. It may be more peaceful for the human because you don't have to face the truth of what is happening. You are killing another creature regardless of how it is done. Many are just doing it under a guise that makes them feel better about their action.

While probably not the case here, many farmer or rural land keepers don't have tons of money or want to pay $65-200 to put down a dog when they can do it themselves. Some horses need to also be put down due to injuries, age, health, etc. (Again dont know why her horses needed to be put down) The cost to put down large animals is even higher. With many ranchers and farmers it is a sense that they are responsible their animals and the life and death is their responsibility and not to be "farmed" out to a vet because it would be too tough to do.

Many in the city or suburbs love to eat chicken, pork, beef but could never build the mental capacity to harvest their own animals. Farmers/ranchers it is just part of life. City and suburb folks adopt or purchase dogs and cats (continuing animal markets) with the knowledge that if it doesn't turn out the way they want they can drop it off and make it someone else's problem. And if someone else deems the animal is too much of a liability they have to euthanize (kill) it. No negative consequences for that owner. If they can't get that particular animal to be trained or fit in their lifestyle they dump it on someone else. Barks too much, too much energy for my apartment, doesn't get along with my kids, eats/craps too much, interferes with vacation time... you get the point just drop it off at the humane society.

While it may not be pleasant, and I wouldn't write about it in books or use it to gain popularity, it is a part of certain lifestyles. It may resonate more with rural farmers/ranchers in her state and around the US than it does with the liberal dentist crowd on slowtwitch (who she was never going to win over anyway).

Moral relativism can only go so far. Saying that it's part of a certain lifestyle is a cop out. And there are plenty of rural famers/ranchers that would never some close to such a callous act.

For some reason, I thought it was more conservatives (as opposed to the dentist crowd here) that decried moral relativism. But I guess that's only the case so long as it doesn't challenge one's ability to comfortably kill a pet for the most insignificant of reasons.
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I guess that's supposed to be funny. Fucking hell.
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Not to mention that the c*** is incapable of putting down a goat with one shot.

I don't know the first thing about killing animals, but we just had to have a deer put down on our property. One of my dogs found him bedded and he wasn't moving. As I got closer I saw he had a compound fracture of a hind leg. He wasn't going anywhere. Local LEO came out and made sure he didn't suffer anymore. As I was talking to the officer he obviously said this is one of the worst parts of the job and he said it only gets worse when the deer doesn't die from the first shot. He shot the deer virtually point blank and the deer was not in any danger of moving. Maybe he just said that for conversation, but it made me think it isn't so easy.

When I listened to Rogan, some of my favorite guests were his hunter friends. I was always amazed at the stories they told of kills from long distance and shots not taken because they were afraid it wouldn't be clean and the animal would suffer a painful death. Again, this was a podcast so it could have been said for conversation, but I don't think so.
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The book is billed as her vision of how the country should be run. It gives pretty good insight into how she would deal with those that refuse to conform.
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This is how my Newfoundland shuffled off this mortal coil; wrapped in a blanket smelling of me, holding his head. Loved that dog more than most people I know. He had terminal leukaemia; not just a pain in there ass to train, I should add.

My sister's beagle was dying from cancer as well. Had already done chemo and amputation of a leg. She had spent thousands upon thousands but money couldn't fix or delay anymore. After we watched him at our place for a weekend while she was out of town I realized it was time and decided to sit down with her and talk about it. Fortunately she called me a day before I planned to sit her down and said she knew it was time. She found the vet that comes to your house. We tried to use the same vet for our cat but had to move the timeline up and the vet graciously gave us a competitor's contact info (kidney failure).

I can't imagine not exhausting all possible options. And if you just don't like the animal I practically guarantee there are many that would absolutely adore the animal and provide a great life.
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Well, she's toast... NYP story in this morning's Google News.

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We’ve finally found an issue that unites the country — Trump’s potential VP pick shooting her dog

By Miranda Devine

Published April 28, 2024, 12:38 p.m. ET

We’ve finally found an issue that unites the country. Just about everyone is disgusted with Kristi Noem for boasting that she shot dead her dog, a 14-month-old puppy she said she “hated.”

If the South Dakota governor thought any publicity was good publicity in her bid to be Donald Trump’s vice presidential pick, she was sorely mistaken about this horrible disclosure.

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The dog’s crimes for which it needed to be executed? Cricket ruined a hunting trip by chasing birds and “having the time of her life,” and then on the way home, attacked a local family’s chickens.

Noem also boasted in the book that, after killing the dog, she took the family goat to the same gravel pit and shot it because it was “nasty and mean” and smelled “disgusting, musky, rancid.”

Sure, it’s a fact of life on farms and ranches that animals will have to be put down, but to do so in anger, as Noem apparently did, is appalling. The dog was young, and she had failed to train it properly or keep it under control.

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Perhaps she had told too many people the story to keep it quiet, but now she claims that she included the anecdote in the book to show she was willing to do the “difficult, messy, and ugly” things that need to be done in life and politics.

What she actually showed was that she will never shake the epithet that has attached itself to her: “Jeffrey Dahmer with veneers.”

https://nypost.com/...g-her-dog/#webview=1
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She’s still going to get re-elected without a problem because…. deplorables
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mattbk wrote:
Well, she's toast... NYP story in this morning's Google News.


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We’ve finally found an issue that unites the country — Trump’s potential VP pick shooting her dog

By Miranda Devine


That's an unpleasant blast from the past.


Miranda Devine is/was an Australian journalist, and a prototypical right wing nutcase: racism, hating on the gays, defending pedophile priests, shitting on the environment - the full regressive wish list. Of course she found a more comfortable home at the NYP.


If a right wing politician has managed to offend this particular piece of ordure she must have crossed a line that I wouldn't have thought existed. Don't fuck with dogs, I guess.


But sorry, America, for Miranda Devine. Not as sorry as we are about Rupert Murdoch, of course, but, still...




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Kay Serrar wrote:

She’s still going to get re-elected without a problem because…. deplorables

Maybe. But there’s one thing professional politicians should all know. You can do drugs. You can have a sex scandal. You can support racists. You can lie about your resume.

You can’t do bad things to animals, especially dogs.

Ray Lewis abetted a murder, and was idolized in the NFL. Michael Vick was involved in dog fighting and was nationally reviled.

No matter what else you do,…be nice to dogs.

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I believe she is at term limit.

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Interesting timing- shooting dogs is on the rise. Vet costs are going through the roof and people can’t afford them anymore.

https://www.yahoo.com/...g-own-162340786.html
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Interesting timing- shooting dogs is on the rise. Vet costs are going through the roof and people can’t afford them anymore.

https://www.yahoo.com/...g-own-162340786.html

Not in any way supporting this trend, but at least that is somewhat understandable. Ending an animal's suffering at least makes sense from a human decency point of view. But killing a young, happy, healthy dog because [whatever Kristi Noem's lame reason was], that is just f*cking idiotic.

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I don't know if you all saw this, but the dog now has a face.

I just saw a photo of the dog on the news. You can't look at this beautiful dog and even imagine blowing its brains out. It would be incredibly hard, as with all dogs, to put it down in its last days, let alone to kill it at 14 months.

You run an ad that shows the dog and tells the story... she's toast.
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DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Moonrocket wrote:
Interesting timing- shooting dogs is on the rise. Vet costs are going through the roof and people can’t afford them anymore.

https://www.yahoo.com/...g-own-162340786.html


Not in any way supporting this trend, but at least that is somewhat understandable. Ending an animal's suffering at least makes sense from a human decency point of view. But killing a young, happy, healthy dog because [whatever Kristi Noem's lame reason was], that is just f*cking idiotic.

On one hand you have Old Yeller. On the other end of the spectrum, you've got Kristi and Vick.
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slowguy wrote:
Kay Serrar wrote:

She’s still going to get re-elected without a problem because…. deplorables


Maybe. But there’s one thing professional politicians should all know. You can do drugs. You can have a sex scandal. You can support racists. You can lie about your resume.

You can’t do bad things to animals, especially dogs.

Ray Lewis abetted a murder, and was idolized in the NFL. Michael Vick was involved in dog fighting and was nationally reviled.

No matter what else you do,…be nice to dogs.

I trust my dog when he does not like people. On the other hand, I tend not to trust people who do not like dogs…. Bastardized quote from someone that is not the worst quote to live by.
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mattbk wrote:
Well, she's toast... NYP story in this morning's Google News.


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We’ve finally found an issue that unites the country — Trump’s potential VP pick shooting her dog

By Miranda Devine


That's an unpleasant blast from the past.


Miranda Devine is/was an Australian journalist, and a prototypical right wing nutcase: racism, hating on the gays, defending pedophile priests, shitting on the environment - the full regressive wish list. Of course she found a more comfortable home at the NYP.


If a right wing politician has managed to offend this particular piece of ordure she must have crossed a line that I wouldn't have thought existed. Don't fuck with dogs, I guess.


But sorry, America, for Miranda Devine. Not as sorry as we are about Rupert Murdoch, of course, but, still...





I had never heard of her. Don't typically read the NYP but when browsing the Google News app the headline got me. And yes, if even the person you described is sick with her actions then most should be as well.
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slowguy wrote:
Kay Serrar wrote:

She’s still going to get re-elected without a problem because…. deplorables


Maybe. But there’s one thing professional politicians should all know. You can do drugs. You can have a sex scandal. You can support racists. You can lie about your resume.

You can’t do bad things to animals, especially dogs.

Ray Lewis abetted a murder, and was idolized in the NFL. Michael Vick was involved in dog fighting and was nationally reviled.

No matter what else you do,…be nice to dogs.


also, you can stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody
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Suffer Well.
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ryans wrote:

I trust my dog when he does not like people. On the other hand, I tend not to trust people who do not like dogs…. Bastardized quote from someone that is not the worst quote to live by.


I'm watching the new All Creatures Great And Small with my wife, and a variant of that quotation was used in the episode I watched last night.



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There's no better test of a man's character than how he gets along with a dog.

The subplot was a dog abandoned at the door of the vet clinic, at some risk of being euthanized (but wasn't).

And the show is far from la-la land on the subject of euthanizing. Euthanizing is featured fairly regularly, including by firearm. In the same episode a bull tests positive for bovine TB and is put down.

The head vet, Siegried, is haunted by his experience as a WWI military veterinarian. Upon armistace, a whole unit of cavalary horses was deemed to expensive to ship back to Britain, don't have time to sell them. So he's charged with euthanizing dozens of horses on the spot.
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trail wrote:
ryans wrote:

I trust my dog when he does not like people. On the other hand, I tend not to trust people who do not like dogs…. Bastardized quote from someone that is not the worst quote to live by.


I'm watching the new All Creatures Great And Small with my wife, and a variant of that quotation was used in the episode I watched last night.



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There's no better test of a man's character than how he gets along with a dog.


The subplot was a dog abandoned at the door of the vet clinic, at some risk of being euthanized (but wasn't).

And the show is far from la-la land on the subject of euthanizing. Euthanizing is featured fairly regularly, including by firearm. In the same episode a bull tests positive for bovine TB and is put down.

The head vet, Siegried, is haunted by his experience as a WWI military veterinarian. Upon armistace, a whole unit of cavalary horses was deemed to expensive to ship back to Britain, don't have time to sell them. So he's charged with euthanizing dozens of horses on the spot.

Did you watch Chernobyl? There were an episode that followed a young guy named Pavel. He was put on a squad that was charged with finding and putting down animals in the contaminated zone. That episode was fuckin' brutal to watch.

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slowguy wrote:
Kay Serrar wrote:

She’s still going to get re-elected without a problem because…. deplorables


Maybe. But there’s one thing professional politicians should all know. You can do drugs. You can have a sex scandal. You can support racists. You can lie about your resume.

You can’t do bad things to animals, especially dogs.

Ray Lewis abetted a murder, and was idolized in the NFL. Michael Vick was involved in dog fighting and was nationally reviled.

No matter what else you do,…be nice to dogs.

In the past, yes. Now? Meh. How much is Fox or Newsmax or any of the channels her voters watch actually covering this? If they are covering it, they are likely excusing her horrible behaviour.

She will be voted back in.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Euthanizing your own own animals by bullet is not uncommon in farms/ranches. Be they dogs, goats, horses, etc. My grandpa and my aunt have probably shot dozens of animals each over the years. They are not bad people by any stretch of the imagination. It’s just something that has to be done at times.

Honestly it’s probably a far more peaceful way to go for the animal than being taken to a strange environment and being killed by a stranger with a syringe.
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Euthanizing your own own animals by bullet is not uncommon in farms/ranches. Be they dogs, goats, horses, etc. My grandpa and my aunt have probably shot dozens of animals each over the years. They are not bad people by any stretch of the imagination. It’s just something that has to be done at times.

Honestly it’s probably a far more peaceful way to go for the animal than being taken to a strange environment and being killed by a stranger with a syringe.

Of course we all know this. The issue is more the really weird screed about "hating" the dog, and then posting it all on social media with the transparent intent to drum up outrage. (she got it!) That is not at all a good faith attempt to explain what rural/farm life is like.

Most people who kill their pets do so quietly, maybe with somber post on more private social media rather than a PR blast.

And people who kill working dogs or pet dogs because they are simply unmanageable generally do so in a quieter - maybe even somber - way with a sense of responsibility for the outcome vs. "hatred" for the animal for daring to not turn out according to expectation.
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307trout wrote:
Euthanizing your own own animals by bullet is not uncommon in farms/ranches. Be they dogs, goats, horses, etc. My grandpa and my aunt have probably shot dozens of animals each over the years. They are not bad people by any stretch of the imagination. It’s just something that has to be done at times.

Honestly it’s probably a far more peaceful way to go for the animal than being taken to a strange environment and being killed by a stranger with a syringe.

If you’re wondering, the whooshing sound you hear is the point going over your head.
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Kay Serrar wrote:
307trout wrote:
Euthanizing your own own animals by bullet is not uncommon in farms/ranches. Be they dogs, goats, horses, etc. My grandpa and my aunt have probably shot dozens of animals each over the years. They are not bad people by any stretch of the imagination. It’s just something that has to be done at times.

Honestly it’s probably a far more peaceful way to go for the animal than being taken to a strange environment and being killed by a stranger with a syringe.


If you’re wondering, the whooshing sound you hear is the point going over your head.

Bullshit. There are some here who are genuinely shocked that shooting an animal for any reason is anything less than a sign of a terrible person. My reply was mostly to that fact.
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BLeP wrote:
slowguy wrote:
Kay Serrar wrote:

She’s still going to get re-elected without a problem because…. deplorables


Maybe. But there’s one thing professional politicians should all know. You can do drugs. You can have a sex scandal. You can support racists. You can lie about your resume.

You can’t do bad things to animals, especially dogs.

Ray Lewis abetted a murder, and was idolized in the NFL. Michael Vick was involved in dog fighting and was nationally reviled.

No matter what else you do,…be nice to dogs.


In the past, yes. Now? Meh. How much is Fox or Newsmax or any of the channels her voters watch actually covering this? If they are covering it, they are likely excusing her horrible behaviour.

She will be voted back in.

To put things in context, your tarp lasted longer than her dog.
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trail wrote:
307trout wrote:
Euthanizing your own own animals by bullet is not uncommon in farms/ranches. Be they dogs, goats, horses, etc. My grandpa and my aunt have probably shot dozens of animals each over the years. They are not bad people by any stretch of the imagination. It’s just something that has to be done at times.

Honestly it’s probably a far more peaceful way to go for the animal than being taken to a strange environment and being killed by a stranger with a syringe.


Of course we all know this. The issue is more the really weird screed about "hating" the dog, and then posting it all on social media with the transparent intent to drum up outrage. (she got it!) That is not at all a good faith attempt to explain what rural/farm life is like.

Most people who kill their pets do so quietly, maybe with somber post on more private social media rather than a PR blast.

And people who kill working dogs or pet dogs because they are simply unmanageable generally do so in a quieter - maybe even somber - way with a sense of responsibility for the outcome vs. "hatred" for the animal for daring to not turn out according to expectation.

Agree mostly, but I don't necessarily see it as the end of the world to put down a dog that's being aggressive around kids, livestock (including chickens), or trying to bite its owner.
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This whole "it's how we do things" BS only came out after her attempt at looking cool and tough by bragging about shooting a dog she hated failed miserably.

She tried and failed to look cool. In the end it won't matter, people who like her will find a reason to not be bothered by this.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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307trout wrote:
trail wrote:
307trout wrote:
Euthanizing your own own animals by bullet is not uncommon in farms/ranches. Be they dogs, goats, horses, etc. My grandpa and my aunt have probably shot dozens of animals each over the years. They are not bad people by any stretch of the imagination. It’s just something that has to be done at times.

Honestly it’s probably a far more peaceful way to go for the animal than being taken to a strange environment and being killed by a stranger with a syringe.


Of course we all know this. The issue is more the really weird screed about "hating" the dog, and then posting it all on social media with the transparent intent to drum up outrage. (she got it!) That is not at all a good faith attempt to explain what rural/farm life is like.

Most people who kill their pets do so quietly, maybe with somber post on more private social media rather than a PR blast.

And people who kill working dogs or pet dogs because they are simply unmanageable generally do so in a quieter - maybe even somber - way with a sense of responsibility for the outcome vs. "hatred" for the animal for daring to not turn out according to expectation.


Agree mostly, but I don't necessarily see it as the end of the world to put down a dog that's being aggressive around kids, livestock (including chickens), or trying to bite its owner.

I grew up on a big farm. My sister and I were talking about this over the weekend. We both agree with you, however, we also agreed that there are somethings you don't proudly put in a book, especially if you are in politics.

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307trout wrote:
Kay Serrar wrote:
307trout wrote:
Euthanizing your own own animals by bullet is not uncommon in farms/ranches. Be they dogs, goats, horses, etc. My grandpa and my aunt have probably shot dozens of animals each over the years. They are not bad people by any stretch of the imagination. It’s just something that has to be done at times.

Honestly it’s probably a far more peaceful way to go for the animal than being taken to a strange environment and being killed by a stranger with a syringe.


If you’re wondering, the whooshing sound you hear is the point going over your head.

Bullshit. There are some here who are genuinely shocked that shooting an animal for any reason is anything less than a sign of a terrible person. My reply was mostly to that fact.

No, you and grindmonkey tried to normalize her behavior by talking about how it may be necessary or practical to shoot an animal [for humane reasons to end its suffering], while ignoring the fact that she killed a young, healthy dog that she couldn’t be bothered to train, and then bragged about it.
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Rick_pcfl wrote:
klehner wrote:
chuckhead wrote:
I am in SD. I grew up on a farm, still farm and I have shot my dogs. I have no idea what you do in a city with an old and or dangerous dog.


You're kidding, right? You take the dog to the vet, where they put it to sleep peacefully. Been there, done that.

Since you know stuff, please explain why Noem also put down three horses recently, all of which were "with her family for 25 years." Like, three horses all at the same time? That was her explanation for also killing her dog and her goat.


I don't think that I could shoot my dog when there are other options to put it out of its misery, but there is nothing peaceful about taking my dog to the vet. From the time we get near the vet office until we leave, he is shaking and whining. I don't want his last moments on this earth to be at a place where he is scared and miserable. I have told my wife that if/when the time comes to put him down, I will pay someone to come to our house to do it so that he is where he is happy.


It's not that expensive, and the vet takes them to get cremated. Then you choose either to keep ashes or get them in a degradable container to bury. We did this for my sister's beagle and our cats. For my sister's beagle we made him all his favorite human foods the morning of and found the bottom of his stomach for the first time ever (a bowl full of cut up bacon and a plate of mostaccioli were two of the many items we fed him). His appetite was legendary even for a beagle. Then the vet showed up and he passed at his home being held by us. This was much better than the sterile and fearful environment of going in to the vet.

We have two little pound pups, some sort of terrier mixes. They have been with us almost as long as our twin boys 14-15 years. I know their time is coming to an end and have been thinking how that is going to go. Reading your experience I started to mist up. I love the idea of the favorite foods.

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Kay Serrar wrote:
307trout wrote:
Kay Serrar wrote:
307trout wrote:
Euthanizing your own own animals by bullet is not uncommon in farms/ranches. Be they dogs, goats, horses, etc. My grandpa and my aunt have probably shot dozens of animals each over the years. They are not bad people by any stretch of the imagination. It’s just something that has to be done at times.

Honestly it’s probably a far more peaceful way to go for the animal than being taken to a strange environment and being killed by a stranger with a syringe.


If you’re wondering, the whooshing sound you hear is the point going over your head.


Bullshit. There are some here who are genuinely shocked that shooting an animal for any reason is anything less than a sign of a terrible person. My reply was mostly to that fact.


No, you and grindmonkey tried to normalize her behavior by talking about how it may be necessary or practical to shoot an animal [for humane reasons to end its suffering], while ignoring the fact that she killed a young, healthy dog that she couldn’t be bothered to train, and then bragged about it.

Putting down an animal that's dangerous to livestock and biting at people isn't abnormal for many people in ranching/farming regardless of how much it might offend your delicate sensibilities.

Hard to assess the necessity and circumstances of putting the dog down, it's a judgement call, but it can be a reasonable response to a problem dog IMO.
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Regardless of what we think of it, there was a parade of Republicans that posted photos of themselves hugging their dogs over the last two days, and a list of anti-Noem quotes from Republican elected officials.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/...pples-182101625.html

Republicans know they can't let this be defined as their brand, and the talking point that this is normal on ranches or in red states isn't good for them.

Pro life, just not pro puppy-that-needs-training, I guess?
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Trieatalot wrote:
mattbk wrote:
Rick_pcfl wrote:
klehner wrote:
chuckhead wrote:
I am in SD. I grew up on a farm, still farm and I have shot my dogs. I have no idea what you do in a city with an old and or dangerous dog.


You're kidding, right? You take the dog to the vet, where they put it to sleep peacefully. Been there, done that.

Since you know stuff, please explain why Noem also put down three horses recently, all of which were "with her family for 25 years." Like, three horses all at the same time? That was her explanation for also killing her dog and her goat.


I don't think that I could shoot my dog when there are other options to put it out of its misery, but there is nothing peaceful about taking my dog to the vet. From the time we get near the vet office until we leave, he is shaking and whining. I don't want his last moments on this earth to be at a place where he is scared and miserable. I have told my wife that if/when the time comes to put him down, I will pay someone to come to our house to do it so that he is where he is happy.


It's not that expensive, and the vet takes them to get cremated. Then you choose either to keep ashes or get them in a degradable container to bury. We did this for my sister's beagle and our cats. For my sister's beagle we made him all his favorite human foods the morning of and found the bottom of his stomach for the first time ever (a bowl full of cut up bacon and a plate of mostaccioli were two of the many items we fed him). His appetite was legendary even for a beagle. Then the vet showed up and he passed at his home being held by us. This was much better than the sterile and fearful environment of going in to the vet.

We have two little pound pups, some sort of terrier mixes. They have been with us almost as long as our twin boys 14-15 years. I know their time is coming to an end and have been thinking how that is going to go. Reading your experience I started to mist up. I love the idea of the favorite foods.

Making the final call is tough. You keep second guessing. When you schedule with the traveling vet you can postpone as the day approaches and you feel it is too early. However we postponed too long and were probably a week or so late on one cat (watched him die 2hrs before the vet was supposed to arrive) and a few day or so on the other. It's easier to see dog pain vs cat pain. Best you can do is make the tough call when needed and let them leave without too much pain. Cats weren't interested in final meals and I was forcing them to eat for weeks, the beagle ate voraciously through all his cancer pain. One time that bastard stole a one pound hamburger off the table while setting it, bun and all and finished it. Another time he ate 9 cheddar biscuits the size of softballs. That was the most swole I ever saw his belly and he only stopped because he ate the entire fucking container that was for a family dinner.
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307trout wrote:
Kay Serrar wrote:
307trout wrote:
Euthanizing your own own animals by bullet is not uncommon in farms/ranches. Be they dogs, goats, horses, etc. My grandpa and my aunt have probably shot dozens of animals each over the years. They are not bad people by any stretch of the imagination. It’s just something that has to be done at times.

Honestly it’s probably a far more peaceful way to go for the animal than being taken to a strange environment and being killed by a stranger with a syringe.


If you’re wondering, the whooshing sound you hear is the point going over your head.


Bullshit. There are some here who are genuinely shocked that shooting an animal for any reason is anything less than a sign of a terrible person. My reply was mostly to that fact.


You initially replied to me and I will say that does not apply to me. I live in north GA. In a community where all of those animals exist. I fully understand what happens and have zero problem with that. What you are describing is not what Krista Noem did. It's not even close. Either you didn't know the story or you are trying to marginalize what she did.

ETA: After reading the rest of the your replies I guess you left no doubt you are trying to marginalize what she did. Abusing animals, yes, that includes needlessly killing them, is kind of far down on the inhumane ladder. For Noem, it certainly fits though.
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307trout wrote:
Kay Serrar wrote:
307trout wrote:
Kay Serrar wrote:
307trout wrote:
Euthanizing your own own animals by bullet is not uncommon in farms/ranches. Be they dogs, goats, horses, etc. My grandpa and my aunt have probably shot dozens of animals each over the years. They are not bad people by any stretch of the imagination. It’s just something that has to be done at times.

Honestly it’s probably a far more peaceful way to go for the animal than being taken to a strange environment and being killed by a stranger with a syringe.


If you’re wondering, the whooshing sound you hear is the point going over your head.


Bullshit. There are some here who are genuinely shocked that shooting an animal for any reason is anything less than a sign of a terrible person. My reply was mostly to that fact.


No, you and grindmonkey tried to normalize her behavior by talking about how it may be necessary or practical to shoot an animal [for humane reasons to end its suffering], while ignoring the fact that she killed a young, healthy dog that she couldn’t be bothered to train, and then bragged about it.


Putting down an animal that's dangerous to livestock and biting at people isn't abnormal for many people in ranching/farming regardless of how much it might offend your delicate sensibilities.

Hard to assess the necessity and circumstances of putting the dog down, it's a judgement call, but it can be a reasonable response to a problem dog IMO.


As someone who after a lot of drugs and training put a dog down for “rage syndrome” with my vet’s support knowing we had tried available options and the dog was not safe- I agree - that there are times when behavior is a reason to put down a dog. I know others who have done it as well.

And it usually becomes apparent in the age range this dog was in. Some of the disorders can even be genetically screened for these days. I know this is one the breed we have is tested for - it’s also very visible in brain imaging - as I have a friend whose dog developed it and they put him down.

So while not my jam politically I will support Ms. Noem if she found herself in the terrible position of dealing with a dog with a brain disorder.
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Moonrocket wrote:
307trout wrote:
Kay Serrar wrote:
307trout wrote:
Kay Serrar wrote:
307trout wrote:
Euthanizing your own own animals by bullet is not uncommon in farms/ranches. Be they dogs, goats, horses, etc. My grandpa and my aunt have probably shot dozens of animals each over the years. They are not bad people by any stretch of the imagination. It’s just something that has to be done at times.

Honestly it’s probably a far more peaceful way to go for the animal than being taken to a strange environment and being killed by a stranger with a syringe.


If you’re wondering, the whooshing sound you hear is the point going over your head.


Bullshit. There are some here who are genuinely shocked that shooting an animal for any reason is anything less than a sign of a terrible person. My reply was mostly to that fact.


No, you and grindmonkey tried to normalize her behavior by talking about how it may be necessary or practical to shoot an animal [for humane reasons to end its suffering], while ignoring the fact that she killed a young, healthy dog that she couldn’t be bothered to train, and then bragged about it.


Putting down an animal that's dangerous to livestock and biting at people isn't abnormal for many people in ranching/farming regardless of how much it might offend your delicate sensibilities.

Hard to assess the necessity and circumstances of putting the dog down, it's a judgement call, but it can be a reasonable response to a problem dog IMO.


As someone who after a lot of drugs and training put a dog down for “rage syndrome” with my vet’s support knowing we had tried available options and the dog was not safe- I agree - that there are times when behavior is a reason to put down a dog. I know others who have done it as well.

And it usually becomes apparent in the age range this dog was in. Some of the disorders can even be genetically screened for these days. I know this is one the breed we have is tested for - it’s also very visible in brain imaging - as I have a friend whose dog developed it and they put him down.

So while not my jam politically I will support Ms. Noem if she found herself in the terrible position of dealing with a dog with a brain disorder.


Well, I hope you’re prepared for the lavender room to shun you as a horrible person and animal abuser.
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Moonrocket wrote:
307trout wrote:
Kay Serrar wrote:
307trout wrote:
Kay Serrar wrote:
307trout wrote:
Euthanizing your own own animals by bullet is not uncommon in farms/ranches. Be they dogs, goats, horses, etc. My grandpa and my aunt have probably shot dozens of animals each over the years. They are not bad people by any stretch of the imagination. It’s just something that has to be done at times.

Honestly it’s probably a far more peaceful way to go for the animal than being taken to a strange environment and being killed by a stranger with a syringe.


If you’re wondering, the whooshing sound you hear is the point going over your head.


Bullshit. There are some here who are genuinely shocked that shooting an animal for any reason is anything less than a sign of a terrible person. My reply was mostly to that fact.


No, you and grindmonkey tried to normalize her behavior by talking about how it may be necessary or practical to shoot an animal [for humane reasons to end its suffering], while ignoring the fact that she killed a young, healthy dog that she couldn’t be bothered to train, and then bragged about it.


Putting down an animal that's dangerous to livestock and biting at people isn't abnormal for many people in ranching/farming regardless of how much it might offend your delicate sensibilities.

Hard to assess the necessity and circumstances of putting the dog down, it's a judgement call, but it can be a reasonable response to a problem dog IMO.


As someone who after a lot of drugs and training put a dog down for “rage syndrome” with my vet’s support knowing we had tried available options and the dog was not safe- I agree - that there are times when behavior is a reason to put down a dog. I know others who have done it as well.

And it usually becomes apparent in the age range this dog was in. Some of the disorders can even be genetically screened for these days. I know this is one the breed we have is tested for - it’s also very visible in brain imaging - as I have a friend whose dog developed it and they put him down.

So while not my jam politically I will support Ms. Noem if she found herself in the terrible position of dealing with a dog with a brain disorder.


It’s awful that you had that experience. Sorry.

But even Noem’s version of events isn’t suggestive of anything similar. She didn’t kill the dog after calm reflection, discussions with a vet, or anything else suggestive of respect for the dog’s life. She killed it after a hunting trip that went badly. The fact that she also killed a goat suggests more of a fit of anger. Since a construction crew saw the shooting — further evidence that she did this is in a hurry, rather than in a respectful way — the far more likely interpretation is that she is trying (unsuccessfully) to get ahead of a bad story that likely would come out if she were a running mate.
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just admit you don't know or don't care to know the details of this story and move on. there is no need to continue to defend this when her own statements contradict everything you have said. i have no idea why are you doing this and it's weird you think the responses to your posts are somehow a LR thing. time to broaden your horizons.
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It’s awful that you had that experience. Sorry.

But even Noem’s version of events isn’t suggestive of anything similar. She didn’t kill the dog after calm reflection, discussions with a vet, or anything else suggestive of respect for the dog’s life. She killed it after a hunting trip that went badly. The fact that she also killed a goat suggests more of a fit of anger. Since a construction crew saw the shooting — further evidence that she did this is in a hurry, rather than in a respectful way — the far more likely interpretation is that she is trying (unsuccessfully) to get ahead of a bad story that likely would come out if she were a running mate.

Exactly. And as others have pointed out, what she did is the smaller part of the story. This wasn't an unearthed "gotcha" story from the media.

She wrote about it in a self-serving book. She boasts about it. There is nothing accidental nor incidental about it. It is part of her image building - her political pitch. She wants people tp undertand something about herself.

She is leaning into the republican idea that callousness is not a bug, it is a feature.

Her misjudgement was to underestimate peoples' sentimentality about dogs. She probably wishes she had boasted about shooting a Mexican - that might have gone down better.
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But the dog killed chickens!


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just admit you don't know or don't care to know the details of this story and move on. there is no need to continue to defend this when her own statements contradict everything you have said. i have no idea why are you doing this and it's weird you think the responses to your posts are somehow a LR thing. time to broaden your horizons.

Why the hell do you think you’re such an expert on the topic to tell me what I can and cannot think? It may not be politically correct to disclose such a story but it’s not exactly something that I find shocking. I come from a different background and I have different views on the topic. To say that my opinion is invalid just because it disagrees with yours is an arrogance which you can insert in whatever orifice you deem appropriate.
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TimeIsUp wrote:
just admit you don't know or don't care to know the details of this story and move on. there is no need to continue to defend this when her own statements contradict everything you have said. i have no idea why are you doing this and it's weird you think the responses to your posts are somehow a LR thing. time to broaden your horizons.

Why the hell do you think you’re such an expert on the topic to tell me what I can and cannot think? It may not be politically correct to disclose such a story but it’s not exactly something that I find shocking. I come from a different background and I have different views on the topic. To say that my opinion is invalid just because it disagrees with yours is an arrogance which you can insert in whatever orifice you deem appropriate.

You are trying to defend someone’s actions using an argument they have clearly stated wasn’t the case. I think it’s a safe bet to assume you are going to triple down on why she did this, completely ignoring her actual reasoning for doing it. Why would you continue to do this?
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Would it make the left liberal at peace if the news story said she aborted the dog?
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Would it make the left liberal at peace if the news story said she aborted the dog?

That plays right into the hands of anti abortion advocates. Talk about late term abortion. 14 months after birth….

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Would it make the left liberal at peace if the news story said she aborted the dog?

Ah, so you missed all of the Republicans who also said this was abhorrent and unnecessary? This isn’t a left liberal issue no matter many times you say it.
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Would it make the left liberal at peace if the news story said she aborted the dog?

You’re now trying to compete with Tyler and SDG for the most idiotic posts?
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Would it make the left liberal at peace if the news story said she aborted the dog?


You’re now trying to compete with Tyler and SDG for the most idiotic posts?

pathetic and sick body count poster says what, now??
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Would it make the left liberal at peace if the news story said she aborted the dog?


Ah, so you missed all of the Republicans who also said this was abhorrent and unnecessary? This isn’t a left liberal issue no matter many times you say it.

Actually, this isn't a political dividing issue to start with. It comes down to where you are from and your life experiences. I'm registered Republican, vote across party lines, support a lot of liberal ideas, and ...

I would not shoot a dog or goat, but I don't get all bent out of shape because someone else did. I'm of the opinion that a lot that happens on the farm needs to stay on the farm. (I have the same opinion of things that happen on a submarine, but that would be a different thread)

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synthetic wrote:
Would it make the left liberal at peace if the news story said she aborted the dog?


You’re now trying to compete with Tyler and SDG for the most idiotic posts?

pathetic and sick body count poster says what, now??

Thanks for the reminder that synthetic hasn’t got a chance.
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AutomaticJack wrote:
TimeIsUp wrote:
synthetic wrote:
Would it make the left liberal at peace if the news story said she aborted the dog?


Ah, so you missed all of the Republicans who also said this was abhorrent and unnecessary? This isn’t a left liberal issue no matter many times you say it.

Actually, this isn't a political dividing issue to start with. It comes down to where you are from and your life experiences. I'm registered Republican, vote across party lines, support a lot of liberal ideas, and ...

I would not shoot a dog or goat, but I don't get all bent out of shape because someone else did. I'm of the opinion that a lot that happens on the farm needs to stay on the farm. (I have the same opinion of things that happen on a submarine, but that would be a different thread)

A lot of people who are criticizing her might agree about most things staying on the farm, or at least being hesitant to judge stuff that happened in the privacy of a farm (or a submarine). But when she publishes a book which reveals the story and tries to spin it as a positive virtue to enhance her political ambitions, then that hesitation goes out the window.
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TimeIsUp wrote:
307trout wrote:
Kay Serrar wrote:
307trout wrote:
Euthanizing your own own animals by bullet is not uncommon in farms/ranches. Be they dogs, goats, horses, etc. My grandpa and my aunt have probably shot dozens of animals each over the years. They are not bad people by any stretch of the imagination. It’s just something that has to be done at times.

Honestly it’s probably a far more peaceful way to go for the animal than being taken to a strange environment and being killed by a stranger with a syringe.


If you’re wondering, the whooshing sound you hear is the point going over your head.


Bullshit. There are some here who are genuinely shocked that shooting an animal for any reason is anything less than a sign of a terrible person. My reply was mostly to that fact.


You initially replied to me and I will say that does not apply to me. I live in north GA. In a community where all of those animals exist. I fully understand what happens and have zero problem with that. What you are describing is not what Krista Noem did. It's not even close. Either you didn't know the story or you are trying to marginalize what she did.

ETA: After reading the rest of the your replies I guess you left no doubt you are trying to marginalize what she did. Abusing animals, yes, that includes needlessly killing them, is kind of far down on the inhumane ladder. For Noem, it certainly fits though.

I don't believe I've ever called a woman a douche bag. However, in Noem's case and for that matter in MTG's case I'll make 2 exceptions.
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Noem is lucky she resides in a "remote" part of the country and hasn't had her scandals plastered all over national news, she is an awful person and corrupt to a point that Trump is envious.

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AutomaticJack wrote:
TimeIsUp wrote:
synthetic wrote:
Would it make the left liberal at peace if the news story said she aborted the dog?


Ah, so you missed all of the Republicans who also said this was abhorrent and unnecessary? This isn’t a left liberal issue no matter many times you say it.

Actually, this isn't a political dividing issue to start with. It comes down to where you are from and your life experiences. I'm registered Republican, vote across party lines, support a lot of liberal ideas, and ...

I would not shoot a dog or goat, but I don't get all bent out of shape because someone else did. I'm of the opinion that a lot that happens on the farm needs to stay on the farm. (I have the same opinion of things that happen on a submarine, but that would be a different thread)

I grew up on a farm. We had many pets and livestock over the years. My family hunts. I've butchered rabbits, chickens, and turkeys myself.

You are full of shit. You don't shoot dogs because they are boisterous and you don't have a clue how to handle them and goats because they smell. No matter where you are from.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Noem is lucky she resides in a "remote" part of the country and hasn't had her scandals plastered all over national news, she is an awful person and corrupt to a point that Trump is envious.


Even dogs think she is an awful person.



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j p o wrote:
AutomaticJack wrote:
TimeIsUp wrote:
synthetic wrote:
Would it make the left liberal at peace if the news story said she aborted the dog?


Ah, so you missed all of the Republicans who also said this was abhorrent and unnecessary? This isn’t a left liberal issue no matter many times you say it.


Actually, this isn't a political dividing issue to start with. It comes down to where you are from and your life experiences. I'm registered Republican, vote across party lines, support a lot of liberal ideas, and ...

I would not shoot a dog or goat, but I don't get all bent out of shape because someone else did. I'm of the opinion that a lot that happens on the farm needs to stay on the farm. (I have the same opinion of things that happen on a submarine, but that would be a different thread)


I grew up on a farm. We had many pets and livestock over the years. My family hunts. I've butchered rabbits, chickens, and turkeys myself.

You are full of shit. You don't shoot dogs because they are boisterous and you don't have a clue how to handle them and goats because they smell. No matter where you are from.

plus... it is never the dog's fault. if you're going to kill your 14mo old dog - which shows what a POS you are - at least take responsibility for the part you played in your dog's behavior.

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Slowman wrote:
j p o wrote:
AutomaticJack wrote:
TimeIsUp wrote:
synthetic wrote:
Would it make the left liberal at peace if the news story said she aborted the dog?


Ah, so you missed all of the Republicans who also said this was abhorrent and unnecessary? This isn’t a left liberal issue no matter many times you say it.


Actually, this isn't a political dividing issue to start with. It comes down to where you are from and your life experiences. I'm registered Republican, vote across party lines, support a lot of liberal ideas, and ...

I would not shoot a dog or goat, but I don't get all bent out of shape because someone else did. I'm of the opinion that a lot that happens on the farm needs to stay on the farm. (I have the same opinion of things that happen on a submarine, but that would be a different thread)


I grew up on a farm. We had many pets and livestock over the years. My family hunts. I've butchered rabbits, chickens, and turkeys myself.

You are full of shit. You don't shoot dogs because they are boisterous and you don't have a clue how to handle them and goats because they smell. No matter where you are from.

plus... it is never the dog's fault. if you're going to kill your 14mo old dog - which shows what a POS you are - at least take responsibility for the part you played in your dog's behavior.

Not sure it's that simple. I have an American bully, one of the top 3 breeds that breeders hate to train. Had some incidents where we thought he was well trained and did complete opposite. Had to build a custom cage for him when we are not around
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synthetic wrote:
Slowman wrote:
j p o wrote:
AutomaticJack wrote:
TimeIsUp wrote:
synthetic wrote:
Would it make the left liberal at peace if the news story said she aborted the dog?


Ah, so you missed all of the Republicans who also said this was abhorrent and unnecessary? This isn’t a left liberal issue no matter many times you say it.


Actually, this isn't a political dividing issue to start with. It comes down to where you are from and your life experiences. I'm registered Republican, vote across party lines, support a lot of liberal ideas, and ...

I would not shoot a dog or goat, but I don't get all bent out of shape because someone else did. I'm of the opinion that a lot that happens on the farm needs to stay on the farm. (I have the same opinion of things that happen on a submarine, but that would be a different thread)


I grew up on a farm. We had many pets and livestock over the years. My family hunts. I've butchered rabbits, chickens, and turkeys myself.

You are full of shit. You don't shoot dogs because they are boisterous and you don't have a clue how to handle them and goats because they smell. No matter where you are from.


plus... it is never the dog's fault. if you're going to kill your 14mo old dog - which shows what a POS you are - at least take responsibility for the part you played in your dog's behavior.


Not sure it's that simple. I have an American bully, one of the top 3 breeds that breeders hate to train. Had some incidents where we thought he was well trained and did complete opposite. Had to build a custom cage for him when we are not around

you confine him when you're not around. you train him. you send him out to be trained. you find another home. you don't shoot him. but even if you do - which i don't understand, but let's give someone the benefit of the doubt - you grieve the fact that you did it. if you're going to make public that you did it you express your regret, remorse, grief. if you can't do any of that, you're a POS. it is that simple. and if you're not wired to behave in a humane and civilized way then don't have the dog. don't take on the responsibility of dog ownership.

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if you can't do any of that, you're a POS. it is that simple.

This. I am 100% sure the people continuing to argue this very simple point would never actually behave like Noem, and are just enjoying the contrarian polemic. No one on this forum is that bad of a person.
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synthetic wrote:
Slowman wrote:
j p o wrote:
AutomaticJack wrote:
TimeIsUp wrote:
synthetic wrote:
Would it make the left liberal at peace if the news story said she aborted the dog?


Ah, so you missed all of the Republicans who also said this was abhorrent and unnecessary? This isn’t a left liberal issue no matter many times you say it.


Actually, this isn't a political dividing issue to start with. It comes down to where you are from and your life experiences. I'm registered Republican, vote across party lines, support a lot of liberal ideas, and ...

I would not shoot a dog or goat, but I don't get all bent out of shape because someone else did. I'm of the opinion that a lot that happens on the farm needs to stay on the farm. (I have the same opinion of things that happen on a submarine, but that would be a different thread)


I grew up on a farm. We had many pets and livestock over the years. My family hunts. I've butchered rabbits, chickens, and turkeys myself.

You are full of shit. You don't shoot dogs because they are boisterous and you don't have a clue how to handle them and goats because they smell. No matter where you are from.


plus... it is never the dog's fault. if you're going to kill your 14mo old dog - which shows what a POS you are - at least take responsibility for the part you played in your dog's behavior.


Not sure it's that simple. I have an American bully, one of the top 3 breeds that breeders hate to train. Had some incidents where we thought he was well trained and did complete opposite. Had to build a custom cage for him when we are not around

I believe you posted exactly what you were trying to dispel.
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No one on this forum is that bad of a person.

Are you sure? We've had some Packers fans here in the past...

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Kay Serrar wrote:
synthetic wrote:
Would it make the left liberal at peace if the news story said she aborted the dog?


You’re now trying to compete with Tyler and SDG for the most idiotic posts?


pathetic and sick body count poster says what, now??

Can someone please provide the context to this statement from Tyler? Does it mean Kay has a high or low body count?

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Would it make the left liberal at peace if the news story said she aborted the dog?


You’re now trying to compete with Tyler and SDG for the most idiotic posts?


pathetic and sick body count poster says what, now??


Can someone please provide the context to this statement from Tyler? Does it mean Kay has a high or low body count?

There's really no meaningful context to any statement from Tyler. Just ignore.

Slowguy

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if you can't do any of that, you're a POS. it is that simple.


This. I am 100% sure the people continuing to argue this very simple point would never actually behave like Noem, and are just enjoying the contrarian polemic. No one on this forum is that bad of a person.


Before you call me bad, this is a joke ;)


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Also note that this thread generally accepts — for discussion purposes — Noem’s version of events. But, she is not great with factual accuracy. How does someone remember meeting with Kim Jong Un when the meeting never happened?

https://abcnews.go.com/...ting-north-109911302
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ike wrote:
Also note that this thread generally accepts — for discussion purposes — Noem’s version of events. But, she is not great with factual accuracy. How does someone remember meeting with Kim Jong Un when the meeting never happened?

https://abcnews.go.com/...ting-north-109911302

One doesn't: one blames the ghostwriter and the editor(s) for inserting that error. Certainly wasn't Noem's fault.

There's hope that Cricket is still alive!

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slowguy wrote:
Trieatalot wrote:
Tylertri wrote:
Kay Serrar wrote:
synthetic wrote:
Would it make the left liberal at peace if the news story said she aborted the dog?


You’re now trying to compete with Tyler and SDG for the most idiotic posts?


pathetic and sick body count poster says what, now??


Can someone please provide the context to this statement from Tyler? Does it mean Kay has a high or low body count?

There's really no meaningful context to any statement from Tyler. Just ignore.

X2.

And if people could stop quoting the vapid little twat, that'd be grrrreat.
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Perhaps inevitable: she now says Biden’s dog, too, should have been killed.

https://www.nytimes.com/...-noem-biden-dog.html
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Also note that this thread generally accepts — for discussion purposes — Noem’s version of events. But, she is not great with factual accuracy. How does someone remember meeting with Kim Jong Un when the meeting never happened?

https://abcnews.go.com/...ting-north-109911302

Someone who lies a lot has a selective memory. She read the audiobook, she knew it was in there but wanted to look tough.
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Slowman wrote:
j p o wrote:
AutomaticJack wrote:
TimeIsUp wrote:
synthetic wrote:
Would it make the left liberal at peace if the news story said she aborted the dog?


Ah, so you missed all of the Republicans who also said this was abhorrent and unnecessary? This isn’t a left liberal issue no matter many times you say it.


Actually, this isn't a political dividing issue to start with. It comes down to where you are from and your life experiences. I'm registered Republican, vote across party lines, support a lot of liberal ideas, and ...

I would not shoot a dog or goat, but I don't get all bent out of shape because someone else did. I'm of the opinion that a lot that happens on the farm needs to stay on the farm. (I have the same opinion of things that happen on a submarine, but that would be a different thread)


I grew up on a farm. We had many pets and livestock over the years. My family hunts. I've butchered rabbits, chickens, and turkeys myself.

You are full of shit. You don't shoot dogs because they are boisterous and you don't have a clue how to handle them and goats because they smell. No matter where you are from.


plus... it is never the dog's fault. if you're going to kill your 14mo old dog - which shows what a POS you are - at least take responsibility for the part you played in your dog's behavior.

Commander Biden agrees
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A cruel liar that takes pride in killing things. Yup, I can see the appeal to the MAGA.
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Tylertri wrote:
Slowman wrote:
j p o wrote:
AutomaticJack wrote:
TimeIsUp wrote:
synthetic wrote:
Would it make the left liberal at peace if the news story said she aborted the dog?


Ah, so you missed all of the Republicans who also said this was abhorrent and unnecessary? This isn’t a left liberal issue no matter many times you say it.


Actually, this isn't a political dividing issue to start with. It comes down to where you are from and your life experiences. I'm registered Republican, vote across party lines, support a lot of liberal ideas, and ...

I would not shoot a dog or goat, but I don't get all bent out of shape because someone else did. I'm of the opinion that a lot that happens on the farm needs to stay on the farm. (I have the same opinion of things that happen on a submarine, but that would be a different thread)


I grew up on a farm. We had many pets and livestock over the years. My family hunts. I've butchered rabbits, chickens, and turkeys myself.

You are full of shit. You don't shoot dogs because they are boisterous and you don't have a clue how to handle them and goats because they smell. No matter where you are from.


plus... it is never the dog's fault. if you're going to kill your 14mo old dog - which shows what a POS you are - at least take responsibility for the part you played in your dog's behavior.

Commander Biden agrees

Let’s just say that the Bidens made the difficult decision to have Commander put down. Do you think the right wing (Fox News, for example) would have:

A) described that as a sad but appropriate course of action.

B) used it as a hammer to attack Biden, for any and many reasons.

?
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Let’s just say that the Bidens made the difficult decision to have Commander put down. Do you think the right wing (Fox News, for example) would have:

A) described that as a sad but appropriate course of action.

B) used it as a hammer to attack Biden, for any and many reasons.

?

if commander was put down i'm quite certain the bidens would have grieved it. not bragged about it. i don't know why tylertri doesn't see the basic humanity, and the lack thereof, in the way these situations are handled. but this is the main reason i'm not in his camp. the reason i'm not a rightie - and haven't been since the 80s - isn't so much policy. it's humanity and decency.

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This whole story is perfect for the right.

Noem was attempting to look "cool" and "tough" by bragging about shooting a dog. At this point, I am not even convinced that she even did this at all.

And the story blew up in her face. Meanwhile some people who must defend\whatabout everyone on the right at all costs are lining up to back her ever changing story about this supposed dog shooting.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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It was amusing hearing her talk about sending her book back to the editors to remove the Kim Jong Un story. She made it sound like she'd had nothing to do with writing the book despite being the sole listed author, and that she had it corrected as soon as she "discovered" the mistake.
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It was amusing hearing her talk about sending her book back to the editors to remove the Kim Jong Un story. She made it sound like she'd had nothing to do with writing the book despite being the sole listed author, and that she had it corrected as soon as she "discovered" the mistake.

I also read that she did the audiobook reading. She didn’t “discover” the error then?

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Taking the story at face value:

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By taking Cricket on a pheasant hunt with older dogs, Noem says, she hoped to calm the young dog down and begin to teach her how to behave. Unfortunately, Cricket ruined the hunt, going “out of her mind with excitement, chasing all those birds and having the time of her life”.
Noem describes calling Cricket, then using an electronic collar to attempt to bring her under control. Nothing worked. Then, on the way home after the hunt, as Noem stopped to talk to a local family, Cricket escaped Noem’s truck and attacked the family’s chickens, “grabb[ing] one chicken at a time, crunching it to death with one bite, then dropping it to attack another”.
Cricket the untrainable dog, Noem writes, behaved like “a trained assassin”.
When Noem finally grabbed Cricket, she says, the dog “whipped around to bite me”. Then, as the chickens’ owner wept, Noem repeatedly apologised, wrote the shocked family a check “for the price they asked, and helped them dispose of the carcasses littering the scene of the crime”.
Through it all, Noem says, Cricket was “the picture of pure joy”.
“I hated that dog,” Noem writes, adding that Cricket had proved herself “untrainable”, “dangerous to anyone she came in contact with” and “less than worthless … as a hunting dog”.
“At that moment,” Noem says, “I realised I had to put her down.”
Noem, who also represented her state in Congress for eight years, got her gun, then led Cricket to a gravel pit.
“It was not a pleasant job,” she writes, “but it had to be done. And after it was over, I realised another unpleasant job needed to be done.”

A young working dog that can't be controlled and destroys livestock is a major liability. You don't keep animals like that around the farm, any more than you'd keep a dog who bites children around the neighborhood. I wouldn't enjoy it but I also wouldn't try to pawn it off to anyone else once it's shown those instincts.

We raise chickens and hatch our own. Sometimes those turn out to be roosters. No one wants roosters. I destroy them before they attack a kid or dog (both have happened) or generally waste more money by feeding them. The fact that it's a dog doesn't move the needle for me as much as it does for other people. You simply don't keep dangerous animals around on a farm.

Again, setting aside the veracity of the story and her intent in telling it, the story itself registers completely differently depending on which side of the urban-rural divide the audience falls.

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Taking the story at face value:

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By taking Cricket on a pheasant hunt with older dogs, Noem says, she hoped to calm the young dog down and begin to teach her how to behave. Unfortunately, Cricket ruined the hunt, going “out of her mind with excitement, chasing all those birds and having the time of her life”.
Noem describes calling Cricket, then using an electronic collar to attempt to bring her under control. Nothing worked. Then, on the way home after the hunt, as Noem stopped to talk to a local family, Cricket escaped Noem’s truck and attacked the family’s chickens, “grabb[ing] one chicken at a time, crunching it to death with one bite, then dropping it to attack another”.
Cricket the untrainable dog, Noem writes, behaved like “a trained assassin”.
When Noem finally grabbed Cricket, she says, the dog “whipped around to bite me”. Then, as the chickens’ owner wept, Noem repeatedly apologised, wrote the shocked family a check “for the price they asked, and helped them dispose of the carcasses littering the scene of the crime”.
Through it all, Noem says, Cricket was “the picture of pure joy”.
“I hated that dog,” Noem writes, adding that Cricket had proved herself “untrainable”, “dangerous to anyone she came in contact with” and “less than worthless … as a hunting dog”.
“At that moment,” Noem says, “I realised I had to put her down.”
Noem, who also represented her state in Congress for eight years, got her gun, then led Cricket to a gravel pit.
“It was not a pleasant job,” she writes, “but it had to be done. And after it was over, I realised another unpleasant job needed to be done.”


A young working dog that can't be controlled and destroys livestock is a major liability. You don't keep animals like that around the farm, any more than you'd keep a dog who bites children around the neighborhood. I wouldn't enjoy it but I also wouldn't try to pawn it off to anyone else once it's shown those instincts.

We raise chickens and hatch our own. Sometimes those turn out to be roosters. No one wants roosters. I destroy them before they attack a kid or dog (both have happened) or generally waste more money by feeding them. The fact that it's a dog doesn't move the needle for me as much as it does for other people. You simply don't keep dangerous animals around on a farm.

Again, setting aside the veracity of the story and her intent in telling it, the story itself registers completely differently depending on which side of the urban-rural divide the audience falls.


But that wasn't a young working dog kept around livestock. It was a hunting dog that escaped her truck because she wasn't careful. No word that it had ever seen a chicken before. "Whipped around to bite her" is less than convincing since she did not get bit. "Tried to spin away" is just as likely.

Killing a goat because it is smelly is just as bad or worse. That is kind of what goats do.

Noem thinking the story shows her is a good light is the most revealing thing about it.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Noem thinking the story shows her is a good light is the most revealing thing about it.
Yeah, the whole deal is kind of dumb on her part. The minutia over ongoing proximity to other livestock and whether or not it posed an ongoing threat, I don't really care about. A hunting dog that can't hunt and kills other people's property isn't a dog you keep around. Maybe she should have adopted it out to a family, but she didn't.

I get that she's trying to paint herself as a salt-of-the-earth, roll your sleeves up and git'r done kind of gal, but I would think she's already got those people's support presuming she's angling for the VP spot. Moderates and undecideds, you're not winning anyone over by going Joe Pesci in a gravel pit on poor Cricket.

I didn't care to read the goat part.

She supports Trump and wants to be his VP. She carries his water and lies to bolster her resume. I know all that I need to know about her irrespective of her animal management practices.

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I get that she's trying to paint herself as a salt-of-the-earth, roll your sleeves up and git'r done kind of gal...

Kind of tough to pull off when you've got your face so caked in makeup that it looks like you went and got a makeover from a student at the Kim Kardashian School of Cosmetology.

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Here’s the deal: the story has changed numerous times since this was first reported. She keeps changing it to make it sound better. She’s failing.

Like I said, at this point I think she included it to look cool to the gun crowd.

She is regretting that choice.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Her appearance during an interview this weekend reminded me of the husk that was once Kimberly Guilfoyle.

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I just read the goat story. It's hard to read that as anything but she got into killing mode and was like, you know what, F that goat too...


Don't get me wrong, goats can be assholes. I've been told in no uncertain terms that I shall not bring a goat home and the chances of her putting a bullet in his head if he were to charge a kid are pretty damn high, but the timing of the shooting as she described it seemed awfully random and like she was just in that mode.

When I dispatch roosters I prefer to do it all at once, just to keep things simple in terms of cleanup and to minimize amount of gunfire in the area. Again presuming this is true, I can see how someone who just eliminated a useless animal (in her view) would take out the other while she's in pest control mode.

Not defending necessarily, but it is somewhat relatable. I say that as someone who would cast a vote for Cricket or the dead smelly goat before Kristi Noem.

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Here’s the deal: the story has changed numerous times since this was first reported. She keeps changing it to make it sound better. She’s failing.

Like I said, at this point I think she included it to look cool to the gun crowd.

She is regretting that choice.

Gun crowd? Executing an old puppy/young dog gets the gun crowd jacked? Even this anti-gun guy doesn’t think that. Didn’t she put it in there to show she can make difficult decisions based on perceived needs while removing the emotional aspect? I’d actually buy that. Brain-dead example to convey that ability, but at least it would make sense to me.
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Gun crowd? Executing an old puppy/young dog gets the gun crowd jacked?

That's her continued miscalculation. To paraphrase Michael Jordan, "2A zealots love dogs too."
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Taking a hunting dog into the field with no recall is a major no no, you don't send a dog into the field unless you know they have a solid and reliable recall. even my psychopath setter has a reliable recall and it was requisite before she saw field time. Luckily she developed that quickly. She occasionally requires a correction in the field, but that is usually just tone and no stim. She did ride the lightning anytime she chased deer.

Also a no no, not crating a hunting dog that is wound up and ready to hunt. My setter is the last "thing" out of the truck (always crated) and the first "thing" put in the truck. She is a torpedo as soon as you loosen your grip to get out in the field.

My golden is a giant lazy pile, doesn't require crating because I know she will always recall, listen to any command at range and doesn't have a fur drive, she might chase a chicken if given the chance, but I highly doubt it.

I know my two dogs and their attitude when in the field, I know what I can be lazy about and when I need to be 100% focused on the dog.

Lastly, every person that has worked with a hard charging high prey drive hunting dog has gotten their hand somewhere they shouldn't have. How much of a bite you take depends on how dumb you were and 99.99% of hunting dog people will straight away say "That was dumb of me." When that happens.

This whole story is just lazy trainer that didn't put the basic obedience training to work immediately.

To any and all dog owners or future owners, from day 1 make your dog sit and stay before being fed, release them from stay to get their food. They quickly learn that I need to listen before I get food.

This whole story makes my blood boil. I know dogs that have been put down for being aggressive, thousands of dollars and years of training couldn't break the abuse the dog received prior to adoption. That isn't the same situation as Noem being a lazy ass POS.

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That got long and I wanted to add one more point:

Cricket is a German Wirehair Pointer, the "german dogs" shorthairs, pudelpointers and wirehairs were bred to be "versatile hunting dogs." That means they were bred to hunt everything, birds (waterfowl and upland), deer, pigs etc, they have a serious fur drive and can be nearly impossible to break. If you are looking for one of these breeds, talk to the breeder about how much fur drive their dogs have. Some have slowly bred that out, but they still come through at times.

Plenty of folks in the hunting dog world have stories about their german dogs that they wouldn't let out in or near farm yards because barn cats and chickens made happy hunting grounds.

There are thousands of avid bird hunters in SD that would have gladly paid Noem for the dog, instead she killed it. Bird dogs get rehomed constantly, not every dog has the temperament the owner is looking for, but there are plenty of folks out there that don't mind a wild child and can do wonders with proper yard work and training.

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Watched her on Face the Nation. She was terrible and couldn't admit she lied about meeting Kim Jong-un. This has become the gop's standard practice, lie and when called out for your lie, blame the woke media.
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She is a terrible human. The Dakota Free Press (a self admitted liberal publication) does a pretty good job of calling out all her BS with supporting documentation.

She is the embodiment of FYIGM.

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Her appearance during an interview this weekend reminded me of the husk that was once Kimberly Guilfoyle.


My goodness these two just look evil.
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Appreciate your perspective on this, thank you.

The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W
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BLeP wrote:
Here’s the deal: the story has changed numerous times since this was first reported. She keeps changing it to make it sound better. She’s failing.

Like I said, at this point I think she included it to look cool to the gun crowd.

She is regretting that choice.

Gun crowd? Executing an old puppy/young dog gets the gun crowd jacked? Even this anti-gun guy doesn’t think that. Didn’t she put it in there to show she can make difficult decisions based on perceived needs while removing the emotional aspect? I’d actually buy that. Brain-dead example to convey that ability, but at least it would make sense to me.

We don’t know why she put it in there. We just know the spin she gave it. One SD publication theorized that she knew the dog/goat story was going to come out if she was a VP candidate — because the story was known in SD circles and because there were numerous witnesses. So, under that theory, she tried to get out ahead of the story and tried to give it a positive spin.
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With every interview she sounds dumber and dumber.

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I get that she's trying to paint herself as a salt-of-the-earth, roll your sleeves up and git'r done kind of gal...


Kind of tough to pull off when you've got your face so caked in makeup that it looks like you went and got a makeover from a student at the Kim Kardashian School of Cosmetology.


Before MAGA


After MAGA

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It does things to people.

https://x.com/...MKbkOzpNU_o_bXlnvUlQ

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The story is in the book because Noem wanted it in the book. She tried to include in her first book "because it showed a decisive person who was unwilling to be bound by namby-pamby niceties". Her team talked her out of including it.

Kristi Noem Was Told Not to Tell Her Dog-Killing Story. She Did It Anyway. (msn.com)


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others on the team — which included agents, editors and publicists at Hachette Book Group’s prestige Twelve imprint, and a ghostwriter — saw it as a bad-taste anecdote that would hurt her brand. The tale was ultimately cut, according to two people involved with the project.

She has a different team with this book, they let her do stupid stuff.

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So going MAGA makes females more attractive? 🤔
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So going MAGA makes females more attractive? 🤔

User name checks out

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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So going MAGA makes females more attractive? 🤔

Your algorithm is broken
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synthetic wrote:
So going MAGA makes females more attractive? 🤔

Sure, if you like the 4am streetworker look.
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So going MAGA makes females more attractive? 🤔

Really, ya think so ???
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So going MAGA makes females more attractive? 🤔


Sure, if you like the 4am streetworker look.

I follow a Twitter account that is always posting pictures of Mar a Lago events. There is definitely a MAGA look developing that I can't exactly put my finger on. Long big hair and lots of eye makeup is part of it. I suspect there is a lot of lip filler and Botox involved too. The before/after pictures of Noem above is a perfect example. I'm not a fan.
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So going MAGA makes females more attractive? 🤔


Really, ya think so ???
🤣

Honestly I try not to comment on how a person looks, but damn if she doesn't resemble the large mouth bass I recently caught.
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To be honest, it is very hard to believe it is even the same person (as the 'before MAGA' photo).

Maybe it is a case of Invasion of the Body Snatchers ... ?

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So going MAGA makes females more attractive? 🤔


Really, ya think so ???
🤣


They start ‘em young. RNC has hired 28 year old swimsuit model Elizabeth Pipko, who fits the slim attractive brunette pattern, as one of their new spokespeople. Her take on Donald Trump?

“The things he’s been through have been unreal,” Pipko told the New York Post. “A lot of people look at what he’s up against every day and see his real character.”



https://torontosun.com/...s-newest-spokeswoman

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Kay Serrar wrote:
synthetic wrote:
So going MAGA makes females more attractive? 🤔


Sure, if you like the 4am streetworker look.

I follow a Twitter account that is always posting pictures of Mar a Lago events. There is definitely a MAGA look developing that I can't exactly put my finger on. Long big hair and lots of eye makeup is part of it. I suspect there is a lot of lip filler and Botox involved too. The before/after pictures of Noem above is a perfect example. I'm not a fan.
Do you remember the movie "Married to the Mob"?
The current look is just an updated version of that.
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They start ‘em young. RNC has hired 28 year old swimsuit model Elizabeth Pipko, who fits the slim attractive brunette pattern, as one of their new spokespeople. Her take on Donald Trump?

“The things he’s been through have been unreal,” Pipko told the New York Post[/url]. “A lot of people look at what he’s up against every day and see his real character.”

Oh, that we most definitely do.



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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
synthetic wrote:
So going MAGA makes females more attractive? 🤔


Really, ya think so ???
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*barf* ... hard to tell with still photos these days. basically she got hair extensions and a make up artist
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
synthetic wrote:
So going MAGA makes females more attractive? 🤔


Really, ya think so ???
🤣

If she was born looking that way, I wouldn't say anything. But that is a look that she has paid money to achieve. There is nothing attractive about her in any way, in fact her appearance is off-putting.
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [Rick_pcfl] [ In reply to ]
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I cannot believe Noem's people continue to let her do TV interviews. She is horrible, she just said she doesn't answer hypothetical questions regarding whether Pence did the right thing on January 6th. It isn't hypothetical you POS dog killer, it actually happened. Grow a pair and answer the questions.
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [SWEDE63] [ In reply to ]
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SWEDE63 wrote:
DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
synthetic wrote:
So going MAGA makes females more attractive? 🤔


Really, ya think so ???
🤣


Honestly I try not to comment on how a person looks, but damn if she doesn't resemble the large mouth bass I recently caught.



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“The things he’s been through have been unreal,” Pipko told the New York Post. “A lot of people look at what he’s up against every day and see his real character.”

So this spokesperson is going to be telling the truth for a change? Love to hear it!

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Am I reading this correctly, that Noem now admits to eating the puppy after she murdered it?


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geetee wrote:
Am I reading this correctly, that Noem now admits to eating the puppy after she murdered it?


Wow just wow, doubling down on stupid. Her in this case.


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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [geetee] [ In reply to ]
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geetee wrote:
Am I reading this correctly, that Noem now admits to eating the puppy after she murdered it?


Come on, that’s satire
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [TimeIsUp] [ In reply to ]
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Obviously the majority of this forum has never been around farmers or ranchers.
They raise cows, pigs, chickens for a food source.
Dogs to them are a tool for hunting, protecting, or herding livestock.

She obviously didn't think through the story of shooting her dog and how it would be received by the majority of the population. That points to a massive shortcoming for her to be effective on the national stage.

I'm not surprised that the LR would take her statement about livestock and infer she ate the dog. I wouldn't be surprised if she actually made the post, but in this day and age when social media easily makes up a narrative. It's best for her to drop it and move on. She should stick with her state level politics.
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Obviously the majority of this forum has never been around farmers or ranchers.
They raise cows, pigs, chickens for a food source.
Dogs to them are a tool for hunting, protecting, or herding livestock.

She obviously didn't think through the story of shooting her dog and how it would be received by the majority of the population. That points to a massive shortcoming for her to be effective on the national stage.

I'm not surprised that the LR would take her statement about livestock and infer she ate the dog. I wouldn't be surprised if she actually made the post, but in this day and age when social media easily makes up a narrative. It's best for her to drop it and move on. She should stick with her state level politics.

Pretty sure, "ate the dog" was a joke.

I grew up on a farm, we had to put animals down at times. Nobody here has denied that animals sometimes have to be put down. I still think she is an awful person for telling a story about shooting a young dog to impress people.
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Re: Governor Kristi Noem sure loves dogs [Bumble Bee] [ In reply to ]
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Bumble Bee wrote:
Obviously the majority of this forum has never been around farmers or ranchers.
They raise cows, pigs, chickens for a food source.
Dogs to them are a tool for hunting, protecting, or herding livestock.

She obviously didn't think through the story of shooting her dog and how it would be received by the majority of the population. That points to a massive shortcoming for her to be effective on the national stage.

I'm not surprised that the LR would take her statement about livestock and infer she ate the dog. I wouldn't be surprised if she actually made the post, but in this day and age when social media easily makes up a narrative. It's best for her to drop it and move on. She should stick with her state level politics.

No wonder she is such a ball washer for trump, people are saying he has a massive shortcoming.
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