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The real reasons conservatives hate Obama
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It's not because he's black, it's not because he's trying to bring hope and change to America, it's not because he's trying to fix our broken health care system, it's not because he's pulling our troops out of a quagmire in Iraq, it's not because the world loves him, it's not because he inherited a huge deficit and economic mess. The real reason conservatives hate Obama is:

1. Because he can pronounce words correctly.
2. He doesn't take 30% of his time as vacation. No, really. You know, the "busy schedule" that had room for 879 days down on the ranch - which, if you're into arithmetic, works out to around 30 percent of eight years. Maybe Bush's legacy will be "the 70 percent solution."
3. Because his cabinet meetings with energy companies are public. Who can forget Cheney's challanges to the Constitution.
4. Because he doesn't want to spy on regular citizens. He will keep some of the Patriot Act, but a lot will be gone when it's up for passage again.
5. Because he's actually trying to capture Osama. Bush didn't even try because capturing him would have lost support for his little advetures into the Middle East.
6. Because he's warmed up to the Islamic world, and toughened on Israel. We've been the dog that tail has been wagging.
7. Because he doesn't out CIA operatives for political purposes.
8. Because he doesn't go to war without an administrative plan and an exit strategy.
9. Because his wife didn't kill someone in a car accident (like Mrs. Bush).
10. Because he doesn't have the likes of Rumsfeld, Rove, Scooter, the Contract with America, and all the other liars and lies hanging with him.
11. Because he knows where countries are located, and he doesn't massage the backs of female prime ministers, and he actually calls people by the proper names.
12. Because his daddy didn't give him his job, and get him out of serving in Vietnam.
13. Because he actually worked his way to where he is now (aka the anyone can be president dream), has a real family, and is a real man.
14. Because the electorate kissed the conservatives out on their arses for the poor job they did over 8 years. You got fired!
15. Because he doesn't give congress, the UN, and the world bogus information on which to make decisions.

I know, you conservatives miss the good old days, but I hate to tell you this - they never existed.


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Funny, you could change the header to "The real reasons people actually like Sarah Palin" and many of these would fit!!!
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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Well this will cause Chainpin to drop his chain again this morning.
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [crapola] [ In reply to ]
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Funny, you could change the header to "The real reasons people actually like Sarah Palin" and many of these would fit!!!

You are kidding, right?
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [Reparto Corse] [ In reply to ]
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It's hard to argue with truth.
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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It's hard to argue with truth.
Get ready, Chainpin is gathering his Fox talking points and will be back shortly.
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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There you go again. Trying to glom off the success of others like Barack Obama instead of doing something on your own. Now, back to your work table. The government needs more of those little, cheap plastic ballpoint pens.

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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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BTW you need to add all the vacation days at Camp David, Kennenbunkport, and friends homes to the number of days GWB was on vacation. The guy was only at the office 50 pct of his working days.
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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Public meetings you are kidding right. Do you think BK will ever be allowed at a rally for President Obama? Those so called Public rallies are all filled with pre-approved people, you know it just admit it. And yes they are rallies not meetings cause just like President Clinton he is still on the campaign trail and not being the Executive he should be.


And once again I will ask, you will not answer but here it goes...

Why do you hate Israel so much?

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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [Billabong] [ In reply to ]
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I do not hate Israel, but I will answer the question if you tell me why you put Israel above America's interests. Are jews, like yourself, in living in America more loyal to Israel than to America? Would you ever betray America for Israel? If confronted with defending America or defending Israel, which would you choose? If you had to help out a poor kid in the streets of America or Israel, which would you choose? If you donate money to Israel, do you also donate to America? Did you serve in the military in Israel but not America?
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [FJB] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe, maybe not. All politicians suck, let's face it. Do you honestly respect someone who believes they should have power over you? Do you honestly look up to someone (both sides) who believe they know what is better for you than you? Do you honestly believe that these people know how to "fix" societies ills?

I don't. Period. If these people were truely that good, the pay grade would be much higher.

Because of this, I will always vote for smaller gov't. Can't say I have had much for choice in the recent past.....

This whole "my guy is better than your guy" crap just to make you feel good about yourself is comical. And weak. Blind allegiance at it's finest.
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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Clearly if you criticize Isreal, you are antisemitic ... just like criticizing Obama makes you a racist ;)

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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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Im really beginig to think that YaHey is an ultra right winger doing a poor job at imitating a radical left-winger based on that list. I call shenanigans because no real leftie would throw out that list with all of the Obamas Chicago style Canned Worms that could be opened.


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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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Clearly if you criticize Isreal, you are antisemitic ... just like criticizing Obama makes you a racist ;)

Well, as Barack is out saying right now, there is some percent of the criticizers that are indeed racist (or antisemitic in this case). Yahey has been consistent and strident , not only in disagreement, but derision, and that does raise a red flag.
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [dave_w] [ In reply to ]
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Clearly if you criticize Isreal, you are antisemitic ... just like criticizing Obama makes you a racist ;)

Well, as Barack is out saying right now, there is some percent of the criticizers that are indeed racist (or antisemitic in this case). Yahey has been consistent and strident , not only in disagreement, but derision, and that does raise a red flag.


Kinda sounds like BK, yourself and numerous others in reference to Obama. Ergo, red flags about your racism are being raised.

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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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Clearly if you criticize Isreal, you are antisemitic ... just like criticizing Obama makes you a racist ;)

Well, as Barack is out saying right now, there is some percent of the criticizers that are indeed racist (or antisemitic in this case). Yahey has been consistent and strident , not only in disagreement, but derision, and that does raise a red flag.


Kinda sounds like BK, yourself and numerous others in reference to Obama. Ergo, red flags about your racism are being raised.

Would be interesting to see your "racists" list from here in the LR...am I safe in just figuring it includes anyone who disagrees with Obama? See, this is where your emotional, knee-jerk reactiveness does not serve you well. Take Mjuric and his frequent disagreement with Obama policy; I see it as just that, disagreement. Do you see it as derision? (and for that matter is Matt on your racist list?)
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [Rodred] [ In reply to ]
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Im really beginig to think that YaHey is an ultra right winger doing a poor job at imitating a radical left-winger based on that list. I call shenanigans because no real leftie would throw out that list with all of the Obamas Chicago style Canned Worms that could be opened.
I only shows GWB's list after he became president. We could show GWB's record when he was governor, part owner of a baseball team, bankrupt business oil man, etc. GWB had 30 years of questionable living before going to the White house. And to think you guys on the right adored him....
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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Im really beginig to think that YaHey is an ultra right winger doing a poor job at imitating a radical left-winger based on that list. I call shenanigans because no real leftie would throw out that list with all of the Obamas Chicago style Canned Worms that could be opened.
I only shows GWB's list after he became president. We could show GWB's record when he was governor, part owner of a baseball team, bankrupt business oil man, etc. GWB had 30 years of questionable living before going to the White house. And to think you guys on the right adored him....

hey dipshit.... ask a bunch of Texans what they thought of GWB when he was governor - he was adored. Also compare the prosperity of Texas over the last 20 years versus places like California, New York, Illinois, etc?
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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"1. Because he can pronounce words correctly."
I'll give you that but when the teleprompter is off you have to weed through all of his "umms", "uhhs" and "ahhs".
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [Pedalsaurus_Tex] [ In reply to ]
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I'm sure hes was adored. When he was governor, he proclaimed June 10, 2000 to be Jesus Day in Texas, a day on which he "urge[d] all Texans to answer the call to serve those in need".
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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I'm sure hes was adored. When he was governor, he proclaimed June 10, 2000 to be Jesus Day in Texas, a day on which he "urge[d] all Texans to answer the call to serve those in need".
THAT BASTARD!!! How dare he ask people to serve those in need. Thank God and Jesus no one has doen that while President. I say F*&% those in need


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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [Rodred] [ In reply to ]
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You want to help those is need? You must be a socialist.
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [Rodred] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah! We certainly dont want these fat ass lazy ignorant welfare junkies to WORK for anything. We dont need ANY personal acountability. I say we just toss them the crumbs and take the bread away from those who have it and dol it out


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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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I can't for the life me understand why, with the guy you so adore in the White House, you would actually spend the time to type up this drivel. My only guess is that you are sad, pathetic little man who yearns for attention, even from those you pretend to despise. You have my pity.

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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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I do not hate Israel, but I will answer the question if you tell me why you put Israel above America's interests. Are jews, like yourself, in living in America more loyal to Israel than to America? Would you ever betray America for Israel? If confronted with defending America or defending Israel, which would you choose? If you had to help out a poor kid in the streets of America or Israel, which would you choose? If you donate money to Israel, do you also donate to America? Did you serve in the military in Israel but not America?

You have said in the past that Israel is a miserable little country.


FYI Retired Navy Chief Hospital Corpsman. 13 of 20 years serving with the Marine Corps World Wide, who am I loyal to...MY COUNTRY and then to our allies not to those who want to destroy us.

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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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The real reasons conservatives hate Obama

hmmmm.......

I don't know what you are trying to accomplish with this thread, but you are going about it in the wrong way.

I think your brand of ‘defense of Obama’…. by offering an opinion on why Obama is hated will do nothing to keep him from being hated more than he already is. You did not say “Why Obama Kicks Ass”

You attempted to explain the conservative hatred for this man and in a paradoxical way he will be hated even more, thanks to you.

I guess what I am saying is: never be the source of bad news. If you have unpleasant news to deliver, let it come from someone else. Keep your hands clean.

If Obama is your Idol, worship him and shower him with praise and adulation. Telling us why your Idol sucks will do nothing to advance your cause.


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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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You want to help those is need? You must be a socialist.
I didnt know they cornered the market. BTW you are just proving my theory about being an imposter. Well either that or a high school student with nothing to do. Or you are just off of your rocker. I guess time will tell which one it is.


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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [dave_w] [ In reply to ]
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Clearly if you criticize Isreal, you are antisemitic ... just like criticizing Obama makes you a racist ;)

Well, as Barack is out saying right now, there is some percent of the criticizers that are indeed racist (or antisemitic in this case). Yahey has been consistent and strident , not only in disagreement, but derision, and that does raise a red flag.


Kinda sounds like BK, yourself and numerous others in reference to Obama. Ergo, red flags about your racism are being raised.

Would be interesting to see your "racists" list from here in the LR...am I safe in just figuring it includes anyone who disagrees with Obama? See, this is where your emotional, knee-jerk reactiveness does not serve you well. Take Mjuric and his frequent disagreement with Obama policy; I see it as just that, disagreement. Do you see it as derision? (and for that matter is Matt on your racist list?)


There. I fixed it so you would get what I was saying. I have to think that one of the surest signs of a low intellect is the failure to recognize sarcasm and humour.

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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks. I know you love me, and whenever we quarrel I just think back to that night in Penticton...
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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Chainpin and Big Kahuna can do better justice, but I'll take a run at it.


1. Because he can pronounce words correctly.

So you don't mind the fact that he adds three or four s's to the end of words?

2. He doesn't take 30% of his time as vacation. No, really. You know, the "busy schedule" that had room for 879 days down on the ranch - which, if you're into arithmetic, works out to around 30 percent of eight years. Maybe Bush's legacy will be "the 70 percent solution."


Two weeks on Martha's Vineyard. Three days back in the office then off to Camp David for a week. You don't think that is taking a running start at a new record? (BTW, I think this is really a non-starter as the job is 24/7/365, so I don't really care where there ass is located at any given time.)

3. Because his cabinet meetings with energy companies are public. Who can forget Cheney's challanges to the Constitution.

Hey! Where can I get the minutes of his meetings with ACORN? Also, how about those meetings with Rev. Wright, after all, he is like family so we should assume that family has come to the White House, right?

4. Because he doesn't want to spy on regular citizens. He will keep some of the Patriot Act, but a lot will be gone when it's up for passage again.

Says who? Or are you saying that the President could not curtail what you understand to be abuses today.

5. Because he's actually trying to capture Osama. Bush didn't even try because capturing him would have lost support for his little advetures into the Middle East.

How is that capturing thing working out? Place your bet: Is the troop request going to be approved as written?

6. Because he's warmed up to the Islamic world, and toughened on Israel. We've been the dog that tail has been wagging.

The World Apology Tour has convinced Iran to give up nukes? How did I miss that. Or that new toughness that resulted in the approval for more settlement expansion.

7. Because he doesn't out CIA operatives for political purposes.

Too easy. No. He just prosecutes them after their actions have already been examined and cleared for political purposes. That will do wonders for our intelligence gathering, don't cha think?

8. Because he doesn't go to war without an administrative plan and an exit strategy.


Since Afghanistan is now the official good war, what is that exit strategery?

9. Because his wife didn't kill someone in a car accident (like Mrs. Bush).

Unlike you. I won't pick on girls.

10. Because he doesn't have the likes of Rumsfeld, Rove, Scooter, the Contract with America, and all the other liars and lies hanging with him.


Really? That is where you want to go? About nine months into his game and right off the top you have the low hanging fruit of Pelosi, Reid and Wrangle. I'll let the czar nonesense ripen for a bit longer.

11. Because he knows where countries are located, and he doesn't massage the backs of female prime ministers, and he actually calls people by the proper names.

I'll take the world geography hit on GW, but you are stuck with a President who thinks he went to all 57 states.

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3. Because his cabinet meetings with energy companies are public. Who can forget Cheney's challanges to the Constitution.

Hey! Where can I get the minutes of his meetings with ACORN? Also, how about those meetings with Rev. Wright, after all, he is like family so we should assume that family has come to the White House, right?

He has policy and price fixing meeting with ACORN and Rev. Wright?

6. Because he's warmed up to the Islamic world, and toughened on Israel. We've been the dog that tail has been wagging.

The World Apology Tour has convinced Iran to give up nukes? How did I miss that. Or that new toughness that resulted in the approval for more settlement expansion.

Is Iran our biggest threat in the Islamic world? Because that has been going on for 15 years. Israel has stopped more settlements from being build, but they have not stopped those under way or destroyed those in existance. At least they realize they are on a short leash.

8. Because he doesn't go to war without an administrative plan and an exit strategy.

Since Afghanistan is now the official good war, what is that exit strategery?

Now you want to cut and run?

10. Because he doesn't have the likes of Rumsfeld, Rove, Scooter, the Contract with America, and all the other liars and lies hanging with him.

Really? That is where you want to go? About nine months into his game and right off the top you have the low hanging fruit of Pelosi, Reid and Wrangle. I'll let the czar nonesense ripen for a bit longer


Pelosi, Reig and Wrangle are on his cabinet? I can always bring up Newt Gingrich, Robert Walker, Richard Armey, Bill Paxon, Tom DeLay if you want to play that game.

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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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So you grant me 7 of 11 points. Good start. Now lets finish off your remaining points.

Hey! Where can I get the minutes of his meetings with ACORN? Also, how about those meetings with Rev. Wright, after all, he is like family so we should assume that family has come to the White House, right?

He has policy and price fixing meeting with ACORN and Rev. Wright?

How many billions of $ were on tap for ACORN before a couple of 20 somethings shamed the Dems into OVERWHLEMINGLY voting to defund it?

The World Apology Tour has convinced Iran to give up nukes? How did I miss that. Or that new toughness that resulted in the approval for more settlement expansion.

Is Iran our biggest threat in the Islamic world? Because that has been going on for 15 years. Israel has stopped more settlements from being build, but they have not stopped those under way or destroyed those in existance. At least they realize they are on a short leash.

As for that short leash? Keep thinking those positive thoughts. Netanyahu's own words: “There is a slowdown in settlement construction, but not a freeze,” he said. “There are 2,400 units being built, and their construction will continue.” Oddly, the Palestinians also seem to think that there is no freeze as the lack is their reason for not resuming negotitations.

Or perhaps you believe that Netanyahu met with Putin because he believes the Admin is going to live up to its promises to Israel. As for Iran being our biggest threat in the Islamic world? Not so much except insofar as it is insistant on obtaining nukes for the expressed purpose of wiping Israel and the US off the pages of history. The bigger threat is fundamentalist Islam.

Since Afghanistan is now the official good war, what is that exit strategery?

Now you want to cut and run?

Since one of my brothers is scheduled back there, my personal preference is to turn it into a parking lot. Is that the exit strategy? Can you even say it? Place your bet: Is the troop request going to be granted as written?

Really? That is where you want to go? About nine months into his game and right off the top you have the low hanging fruit of Pelosi, Reid and Wrangle. I'll let the czar nonesense ripen for a bit longer.

Pelosi, Reig and Wrangle are on his cabinet? I can always bring up Newt Gingrich, Robert Walker, Richard Armey, Bill Paxon, Tom DeLay if you want to play that game.

Play on. I will guess that the kleptocracy that is starting off with a near TRILLION dollar slush fund called the Stimulus Package has real potential to make Teapot Dome seem like a kindergarten prank. Time will tell.
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [crapola] [ In reply to ]
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Well said!

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Maybe, maybe not. All politicians suck, let's face it. Do you honestly respect someone who believes they should have power over you? Do you honestly look up to someone (both sides) who believe they know what is better for you than you? Do you honestly believe that these people know how to "fix" societies ills?

I don't. Period. If these people were truely that good, the pay grade would be much higher.

Because of this, I will always vote for smaller gov't. Can't say I have had much for choice in the recent past.....

This whole "my guy is better than your guy" crap just to make you feel good about yourself is comical. And weak. Blind allegiance at it's finest.

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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [crapola] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe, maybe not. All politicians suck, let's face it. Do you honestly respect someone who believes they should have power over you? Do you honestly look up to someone (both sides) who believe they know what is better for you than you? Do you honestly believe that these people know how to "fix" societies ills?

I don't. Period. If these people were truely that good, the pay grade would be much higher.

Because of this, I will always vote for smaller gov't. Can't say I have had much for choice in the recent past.....


I am as anti-big government and Libertarian as they come but you were suggesting Sarah Palin was all those things Yahey listed, and I can't see her being any. If he had nice looking on there I would have agreed but just because she says she is for something really doesn't prove anything, her legacy in Alaska is far from being supportive of smaller and less intrusive government.
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Ha! I agree with you! The point of my Sarah Palin comment was this:

I could come up with a list why ANYTHING is good or bad if I have outright blind allegience.

Seems like people just want to pound their chests as to why "their guy" is better. So what? Does that mean all the credit should go to Yahey? He has nothing to do with it. He is an armchair quarterback....

Obozo could go on TV and decapitate a white businessman and Yahey would say it was a good example to set for the children. Bush could have told Kraft to sell cynanide laced Mac and Cheese and the righties would say it is "capitalism at it's finest and buyer beware"

The fact that people look to another person to tell them how to live their life and for "hope and inspriration" is comical. Clearly Yahey is a weak individual.
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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Mrs. Bush was involved in a car accident, she didn't chase someone with her car and try to kill them. Claiming that her involvement in a horrible accident somehow affected President Bush's term as president, or somehow makes Mrs. Obama a better first lady for not ever being in a car accident is disgusting. You should be ashamed.
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [slink] [ In reply to ]
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'Nuff said (hee-hee):

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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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I hate political cartoons that beat around the bush.


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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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While I agree that Bush jr. is a joke I have to say something. It really doesn't matter where the president is because he doesn't need the White House. Presidents have always moved around and gone places. Stop forgetting about technology and slam the goofball on other things.

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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [crapola] [ In reply to ]
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"Maybe, maybe not. All politicians suck, let's face it. Do you honestly respect someone who believes they should have power over you? Do you honestly look up to someone (both sides) who believe they know what is better for you than you? Do you honestly believe that these people know how to "fix" societies ills?

I don't. Period. If these people were truely that good, the pay grade would be much higher."

You just summed up, in just a few sentances, my dislike for the Democratic Party, dating back some 30 years.

I'lll add: "Really generous with my money" to make it complete.

Excellent!
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [vibrolux] [ In reply to ]
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Agree 100%. Anyone who doesn't think progressive taxation and giving the proceeds to someone else isn't stealing is an idiot.
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [YaHey] [ In reply to ]
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11. Because he knows where countries are located, and he doesn't massage the backs of female prime ministers, and he actually calls people by the proper names.
And when he's in Mexico he helped them celebrate Cinco de Quatro!
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Re: The real reasons conservatives hate Obama [Cavechild] [ In reply to ]
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Was that after he visited all 57 of the states? ;-)


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