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Re: Lionel Sander's swim meet [SnappingT]
Hello Tim

It is a chance for us to have you discuss here.

Critical swim speed of Lionel (corresponding to MLSS/LT2) in pool :
putting the swim meeting times (SCM) of Lionel in a calculator indicate a CSS of 1.27m/s ie 1mn19 / 100m
Looking at his "Lactate swim test" video, the test indicate LT2 at 1mn14.9 / 100y so 1mn22 / 100m
"L'un dans l'autre" as we say in french, his CSS is probably around 1mn20 /100m in pool (no buoy or wet suit or salty water)

Critical swim speed of top tri contenders with swim background (Angert, Baekkegard, Amberger, Laidlow...), from what I have seen, seems to be more around 1mn10 / 100m (also in pool). Am'I right ?

Apparently Wellbrock and top OWS are more like 1mn05 /100m ?

For an IM, you'd better go not faster than your CSS effort in order to avoid too much lactate in the blood for bike start (too much lactate supressing fat ox) ?

Assuming IM swim is around CSS, LS will loose in a non-wetsuit & fresh water swim 10x38=380s so more than 6mn. Or force the swim and burn his bike.

In order to reduce the gap to 2mn30s (chase group), he need to gain 6s/100m on his CSS.

Salty water provide buoyancy and help to reduce the gap between good and bad swimmers, not sure how much ?
Swimming with a wetsuit will also help to reduce the gap between good and bad swimmers. How much ? But Kona is historically non wet suit. Better chances in Nice....

Historically LS was pushing a lot of intensity in training globally, before DTD and Mikal. Improving CSS requires a lot of work below CSS ?

Recently I read a PhD Thesis (from 2018) from a guy in INSEP (french institute of sport) saying that most french elite swimmer were mostly training at too high intensity compared to their objectives, lacking the "base training".
Maybe why Leon Marchand choose to train elsewhere.... anyway the guy said it was possibly because swimmer feel more confortable around CSS than below... and also some coaches should read more....

If it is true for an elite swimmer targeting 200 and 400m, I suppose LS can have the same issue ?
Last edited by: Pyrenean Wolf: Nov 23, 23 2:35

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  • Post edited by Pyrenean Wolf (Dawson Saddle) on Nov 23, 23 2:35