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A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1?
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So by June 1, its warm enough around here to open water swim and I don't need to rely on pools. Which means I can do my own triathlons again. So I am thinking of month of June seeing if I can get 1 Olympic tri of training per day done around normal life.

On paper this is easy. I need one long tim slot to bike commute to open water swim and bike back and I need another shorter time slot to run 10km. With overhead for changing, putting on wetsuit, locking bike I need to carve out 3 hrs per day to do this (90 min biking, 30 min swimming, 60 min running).

It roughly works out to 21 hrs of training per week for a month (90 hrs) with 300km of running. The hard part will be to make it repeatable around life responsibilities.

Anyone else interested in this challenge. My thought is you can do any format/order in any number of sessions needed, as long as you cover the Olympic distance daily. Walking would be permitted for the run leg too (IC rules). If you want to draft your buddies in the swim and bike like Alistair Brownlee, that's OK too. I probably end up doing this all solo myself not knowing what group gathering restrictions will be in the part of Canada where I am located. Most of my swims will likely be longer than 1500m too. I'll likely end up with 3000m of swimming most days.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
So by June 1, its warm enough around here to open water swim and I don't need to rely on pools. Which means I can do my own triathlons again. So I am thinking of month of June seeing if I can get 1 Olympic tri of training per day done around normal life.

On paper this is easy. I need one long tim slot to bike commute to open water swim and bike back and I need another shorter time slot to run 10km. With overhead for changing, putting on wetsuit, locking bike I need to carve out 3 hrs per day to do this (90 min biking, 30 min swimming, 60 min running).

It roughly works out to 21 hrs of training per week for a month (90 hrs) with 300km of running. The hard part will be to make it repeatable around life responsibilities.

Anyone else interested in this challenge. My thought is you can do any format/order in any number of sessions needed, as long as you cover the Olympic distance daily. Walking would be permitted for the run leg too (IC rules). If you want to draft your buddies in the swim and bike like Alistair Brownlee, that's OK too. I probably end up doing this all solo myself not knowing what group gathering restrictions will be in the part of Canada where I am located. Most of my swims will likely be longer than 1500m too. I'll likely end up with 3000m of swimming most days.

since you require no order, i think I am in (i like to do reverse tri efforts). Would be nice if this was added to ST training challenges.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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For you and Herbert Krabel, it has to be a half IM per day LOL!!!

We can enter Iron Cowboy too, but he's doing a bit of extra
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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All right, I'll give it a go. (It sounds like fun.) I just hope I can find a pool that'll have me!
(Great excuse to get in shape. It's like the 100 runs in 100 days...)

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
For you and Herbert Krabel, it has to be a half IM per day LOL!!!

We can enter Iron Cowboy too, but he's doing a bit of extra

I did do that before (close enough). But this challenge will be harder for me, as pool lanes are hard to reserve
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, the pool thing is a problem with slots. That's why I put June 1 so those in Northern Hemisphere who can get to open water if you live close enough. Maybe some kind of concession on swim where you can do 3000m in a day if you got zero the day before (or something like that).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Yup, no way for me to get in the pool very day, and access to open water here is even trickier. Plus I decided that challenges divert me from focusing and preparing (resting) for my other race goals - so I am certainly out.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Hey Dev,
I really wanted to give this a try when you first posted it, but the pools won’t realistically open here for quite some time. The nearest lake is more than 40 km away by bike, so that isn’t a viable option either.
This means that I will have to pass on the challenge this time.
I hope the pools open soon, because I have two triathlons in August, and I haven’t been in the water since the end of October. Plus, I’m tired of just running and biking all the time :-)
Ciao
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [Flemish Arrow] [ In reply to ]
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With or without IV’s?
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I’m interested in something like this— but I’m looking at sprint distance. I’m kind of out of shape.

Are you okay with a sprint distance person joining your thing on June 1?
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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So I don’t have any more races until July so I’m going to jump in as a big training block.
My caveats are that Monday thru Friday my bikes and runs will be on a trainer and treadmill (as I can fit this in at my work pain cave) but on the weekends I’ll be out in the wild. Luckily my pool is open 7 days a week and you don’t have to reserve lanes - just swim around the local teen swim team who make you feel really slow.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Bumping this to get the action started. I hope this ends up like the 100 runs in 100 days thread.

(I just got my 10k for the day done at the track. The only other person there was a very nice high jumper (Amina Smith) whose goal is the Olympics. After getting home I found out she's ranked 31st in the world.)

Let's get the stories started...

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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So forgot it was June 1st this morning until I got to work, so did things even more out of order than I intended.
Lunch time run - 6 miles on the treadmill (45 mins)
After work - 25 miles on the bike trainer (1hr 15min)
After after work - 1600 yards in the pool (30 mins)

Starting tomorrow I’ll have the order as swim before work, run at lunch, the ride after work, pretty much doing the same distances/times as today. This should work out as a nice block of easy base miles (I’m going to take the IronCowboy approach of this will all be done at sloooow paces) but hopefully the accumulation of distance/time over the month will be beneficial, then ramp up speed into July. Morning swims will be easier next week when my daughter has finished school and will join me for the 6:00am swims.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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HoustonTri(er) wrote:
So forgot it was June 1st this morning until I got to work, so did things even more out of order than I intended.
Lunch time run - 6 miles on the treadmill (45 mins)
After work - 25 miles on the bike trainer (1hr 15min)
After after work - 1600 yards in the pool (30 mins)
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missed 50yd on swim and .24 mi on run! but better than me. I had no water access yesterday. today I can start, definitely wont hit 30/30. maybe 8/30. More possible next month with more pool openings
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, my day was a little off too. (Breakfast at 7pm?) Was late to the pool so only 1300m (200m short) before they closed, which I'll make up today. Bike was 25.1 miles, so OK there.

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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Well the distances of the Olympic races around Houston are not all set in stone so I was going for a kind of average of what my times and distances have been for this distance over the past years. Since I'm on the treadmill and trainer during the week distances aren't going to be exact anyway. Plus my OCD kicks in and I like nice round numbers.
Swim this morning and run at lunch, so just have the bike left after work.
I'm definitely lucky with my HOA pool open and no need to book lanes. At 7:00am this morning I was the only person in the entire pool.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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I decided that I am going to try to run 10km every day in general and bike 300km per week (and ride daily....some days may only be 27km which is my commute to go swim, but 7x40km = 280km). Swimming is a bit complicated with my work schedule and current lack of pools and when the open water spot does not have too much boat traffic, so I will try to get 15,000m per week (need 10.5km per week to get to Olympic tri level).

If I put this month in, I will be set to do an Ironman later in the year if I can get into one as I will have an intensity x frequency mid volume focus (vs volume thru long single workouts).

This morning I took a half day of vacation and had time to do a 50km bike + 11km where I did a single hill 6x on bike and 4x on the run adding up to 550m of vertical. I then drove over to a local old quarry pond that is near the venue that I did the morning du and had time to do 1600m of open water at this swim location that is barely 200m long, but longer than a LC pool...was able to swim no wetsuit since I was hot after my du segment



Todays bike : https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/6888677463
Today's run: https://connect.garmin.com/.../activity/6888677577

Tomorrow unlikely to be able to swim due to now pool and potential for lightening outdoors. So Friday will be make up swim days since today was light and yesterday was zero.

Pools opening on 14 June so that will help too
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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1/2 : swim: 1650yd, bike 32.5 mi, run 11.16
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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As usual, slower than a triplegic dog, so no times but

25.6 miles cycling (in 2 parts to make sure I got to the pool on time)
1700 meters swim (catching up the 200 meters I missed on the 1st) ("National breatstroke convention" going on at the pool yesterday, with all lanes filled with them for at least 20 minutes.)
6.4 miles "run" (treadmill to control speed so injury doesn't come back)

I have to work on planning my eating, as I'm still eating light for a 64-year-old metabolism (1300 cals/day for the first 2 days) and needs have gone up considerably. (At least I made sure of protein needs.)

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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madMike100 wrote:
As usual, slower than a triplegic dog, so no times but

25.6 miles cycling (in 2 parts to make sure I got to the pool on time)
1700 meters swim (catching up the 200 meters I missed on the 1st) ("National breatstroke convention" going on at the pool yesterday, with all lanes filled with them for at least 20 minutes.)
6.4 miles "run" (treadmill to control speed so injury doesn't come back)

I have to work on planning my eating, as I'm still eating light for a 64-year-old metabolism (1300 cals/day for the first 2 days) and needs have gone up considerably. (At least I made sure of protein needs.)

Good job, day three starts today. It is raining with risk of thunder, so I will over achieve on my bike (trainer) target and do 10km of running split between a short transition run and an evening jog. I doubt I will get to open water this evening, but I will watch weather to see if it is clear. On a plus note when it is raining the beach is empty and no boat and kite surfer traffic
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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Target for the month would

45km swimming, 12000km biking, 300km running
Depending on your speed it is roughly a 90-100 hrs month.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I figure if I can make it to the middle of next week hitting targets each day then I will be able to make it through the month - keeping the consistency for the swim will be the biggest benefit to me as that is my weakest segment. I'll be fractionally low on numbers compared to others, ,but my understanding in these "personal" challenges is that you can make up the rules as you seem fit. The reward is the challenge.
My monthly target will be Swim - 48,000 yards, Bike - 750 miles, Run - 180 miles (75 hours @ 2.5 hours a day)
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
Target for the month would

45km swimming, 12000km biking, 300km running
Depending on your speed it is roughly a 90-100 hrs month.

I don't think I can manage 12000km on the bike this month. ;-)

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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Haha, 12,000 km in the month was 2.5K the IC plan. OK 1200km for the month.

I did a 2km warmup jog, got on the 40km IMLP course on Rouvy and 1km cooldown jog so far today.

This evening I either run some more or if weather lets up, I will ride over for an open water swim. If I swim, I end up "on track" for swimming, but behind a touch on the run (currently at 27km running on day three, need 30km, currently at 1600m swimming need 4500m...ahead on biking, but that is the easy part)

https://my.rouvy.com/...iary/detail/11159204
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Missed the swim yesterday because of an accident that would have made the trip to the pool over an hour, so I owe 1500 meters swim.

Did the other parts pretty much on the nose (each .02 miles over).

Bike still quite a challange since I can't breathe in aero (except when not pedalling) because of the gut that I hope this month eliminates. (When I can do aero this will be a lot easier.)

And yesterday I relearned how to EAT. (Not the mousy stuff for a 64-yr-old metabolism.)

How are you guys doing?

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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weather cleared up last night and I biked over to my open water spot and swam 2800m and biked back. I am now roughly caught up on swim, 40km ahead on bike, 4km behind on run. Today weather permitting, I will bike commute worth 30km, do 2500m swim (get ahead) and do a short run later in the day. I will be a full day behind on run and a full day ahead on swim and bike if today's plan materializes
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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HoustonTri(er) wrote:
I figure if I can make it to the middle of next week hitting targets each day then I will be able to make it through the month - keeping the consistency for the swim will be the biggest benefit to me as that is my weakest segment. I'll be fractionally low on numbers compared to others, ,but my understanding in these "personal" challenges is that you can make up the rules as you seem fit. The reward is the challenge.
My monthly target will be Swim - 48,000 yards, Bike - 750 miles, Run - 180 miles (75 hours @ 2.5 hours a day)

Haha....your daily pace is my current "race pace". Its kind of depressing since 27 years ago race pace was exactly 31 minutes faster than your training pace (LoL).

Maybe June 30th I "race" each leg and roll up my times. Maybe a 1500m pool swim, a rouvy 40km ride on one of their courses on my Kickr bike and go to the track for a 10km run. Add up my times and call it done (well if I survive to June 30th). I barely got out of bed today.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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But you did get out of bed and are still moving.
I haven't been hit by a bus lately, so given what you have been through I put you firmly in the inspirational members of this forum.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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Well I think this challenge, or any personal challenge be it a PB at a race, KQ, doing a first 5km or a first sprint tri, or a first Ironman is exactly the same process. Get out of bed and figure out which piece you will chew off today.

I was just in an investor meeting today. The investor said, "we are betting our hopes on you". I replied, "Hope is not a plan. A goal without a plan we can't take to the bank. We have to take it out of hope to something we can execute on".

I think across the forum, athletes here, just get up and go get today done. That adds up.

Or in the famed words of my friend Lisa Bentley who finished 3rd in Kona in 2006 and won many Ironmans.....get your life organized to get to today's start line. It's 12:30 and I got to zero training start lines so far so I am failing her.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Got through yesterday (6/4) and added 750m to the 1500m of swim to make up for half of the deficit from missing Thursday.

I'm going to try to find a better place to ride, 'cause the bike paths around here, while pretty, are filled with 2-footed impedances (people, ducks and geese) covering the path, the route is very curvy (not rails-to-trails), and the cicadas are deafening. (My times are more consistent with 40 miles during an IM than 40km. :-( ) (It's just a little scary because I've been hit head-on by a car during a race and that's made me very gun-shy.) (And 2 flats so far!)

The swim was very relaxing, and during the 6k I jogged outside (instead of treadmill) I didn't feel any (injury) twinges, so that's good.

Off to start the new day and hope all are well.

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks. Yesterday I was mentally fried but it was not from exercise, it was from everything in life. This is when exercise gives me an outlet. I chose "stupidly" (more on that in a second) to bike commute out to swim. Well I had a tailwind from the south west heading over. The swim spot is sheltered largely if the wind stays south, southwest or southeast. Once it is West Southwest if gets wavy. Well I got there and the wind started to move north and suddenly it was straight out of the west. waves turned to whitecaps, kite surfers suddenly emerged from all over (at which point I knew it was no longer going to be a fun mental break from rest of life). I stayed in for what my watch said was 1800m but it does not capture things when I do fly, kick sets, breast stroke, so 38 min later, I packed it in, sick of meandering around kite surfers etc. My bike ride home was into this howling wind which was not adding to my enjoyment/life stress reduction.

By the time I wrapped up my work day it was 7 pm, had a snack, and just laid on the couch trying to decide if a run would happen or not. Finally at 8:30 pm I got my butt off the couch, got to the start line out the front door and head a really pleasant 8 km run catching the sunset. Legs felt awesome. I decided to cut the run short to do some weight training. Body felt good....it was all in my head.

So as of today I am on track on the swim, roughly one Olympic tri bike leg ahead, and around 5km behind on the run. I should shoot ahead on the bike on the weekend, stay on track on the swim and catch up on the run.

Edit: between work + an Olympic tri equivalent per day, it has roughly shaken out to the IC 16 hrs per day program. Its good that Satuday and Sunday its just the 3 hrs per day program. I don't know how that guy handles 16 hrs per day endlessly
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Day five and I’m on schedule - and yesterday they finally switched the pool to long course after 1.5 years of short course, so I’ll be doing the full 1,500 m swim now each day.
Today will actually be in correct order - with yard work in between each leg, these will be my longest transition times ever!
It’s a different animal when we are putting these activities around normal work-family commitments - managing that balance for a month will be my biggest challenge.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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I totally agree that getting it done around life is the hard part. And I am old-er and don't have family obligations. Just work and work out.

As of day 5 the targets are

7.5km swim
200km bike
50km run

I am at

6km swim
246km bike
50km run

I won't go for swimming today. Risk of lightening and with it being weekend boats and jet skis and kite surfers will be going nuts. Pool opens in 9 days max maybe earlier.. If I bank some biking now, I can make up swimming when pool is open and I don't have to worry about water craft all over the place.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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1/2 : swim: 1650yd, bike 32.5 mi, run 11.16
2/5 : swim: 1800yd, bike 25 mi, run 11.01

Trying to stay purist, not spilling numbers over into another day. I should take it further, something of all 3 in under 3 hours. Hoping my near by pool opens up soon.. if anyone wants to up this challenge July or August
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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I think if I had pool access, I would try to hit the full Olympic tri daily. Its just too stressful trying figure it out with open water variability at the location I can access easily. The best local location open water is 50 minutes each way in a car and logistics don't make it viable. So I have to roll with where I can swim by biking there only.

This year, one month will be enough for me. I am registered for a 12km swim on Aug 15th, so will want to ramp swimming in July. I have a half IM in Sep, so this training in June is fine for that. If I get into an IM in August, then in July, I will want a few bigger bike days too.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Had my 3rd mechanical in 5 days, and it was the BEST thing ever; I gave up on my (front) training wheel and put on what used to be my racing front wheel and immediately picked up >1 mph. I was even able to hold aero position for short stretches (so the belly is starting to go down). Up til now biking has exhausted my diaphragm, but I came through it pretty easily today.

Distances today (in order of activity):
Bike: 27.80 miles (daily+2.94 miles)
Swim: 2500 meters (daily+750 makeup+250 extra)
"Run" (treadmill): 7.81 miles (daily+1.60 miles)

(By the time I was ready to run it was 90 degrees, so I decided to just walk "up" the (inclined) treadmill.)

Have not returned to being a triathlete again, as my bike speed is still slower than what I used to maintain after 300-400km, run is over 3 mins/mile slower than what I've averaged in an Iron-distance, and my swim progress is glacial, but weight loss, base, and progress (and trial by fire) are my goals for this month. Of course, the aforementioned times were all about 30 years ago, so I shouldn't expect miracles. Anyway, I think I'm over the worst part (except tomorrow/today hits 95), so I have to try to get up in less than 5 hours to beat the heat.

Thanks, dev, for getting this started, and to my wife who is doing more to help manage our 6 homeschooled "varmintus erectii".

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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How on earth does IC get up and do this daily. I had grandiose plans to do a 10-50-3 reverse Tri starting with run ending with outdoor swim since it will be hot and humid today but I can barely move

I made the critical mistake of hammering a 40km TT on the Rouvy IM Cairns course yesterday . I respected the challenge on my run yesterday as I know we can't hammer day over day on the run, but when it comes to bike it's easy to get over zealous and not respect 'tomorrow'
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
How on earth does IC get up and do this daily. I had grandiose plans to do a 10-50-3 reverse Tri starting with run ending with outdoor swim since it will be hot and humid today but I can barely move

I made the critical mistake of hammering a 40km TT on the Rouvy IM Cairns course yesterday . I respected the challenge on my run yesterday as I know we can't hammer day over day on the run, but when it comes to bike it's easy to get over zealous and not respect 'tomorrow'

well he doesnt hammer at all and his 'run' splits are slower than bike. also he has ideal setup of trust worthy pool, route and all ... this being his 'job'
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My day was a partial success but a partial bust. It got up to 34C and work got in the way this morning so it did not get going till 11 am. I decided to start with a 14km run doing hill repeats on the biggest hill locally. I had to take walk breaks at the top of each climb that were between 3.5 and 4 min long. The airflow on the speed downhill was nice. Finished run after 5 climbs, got back to car and did 53Km ride inclusive of the same hill 6x more times. Once I download I should know my climbing for the daym definitely a Kona like heats day. biked over to the local pond but it turns out it is closed for swimming at 2pm. Seems like local residents managed to get a bylaw enacted to keep citizens away after 2pm but before 7am.

It turns out this is a big controversy in the local open water swim group. The city had bylaw officers booting people out at 2om sharp..

So now I am two days behind on swim. Bike I am around 60Km ahead. Run 4km ahead.

Once pools open on 14 Jun I can count on 2800-3200 m per session to catch back up.

Hunting for water access is turning into the most stressful part of week one. I can't say a single swim has been enjoyable to either do or get to . And I really enjoy swimming. You can see how most triathlete just say fuck it to swim training
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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So as of Sunday evening I’m still keeping going (I know only 6 days in - big whoop). Surprisingly I found the weekend harder to find the time as there were more family activities that my time working out were more obviously taking away from. During the week I can kind of hide my excessive workout time by leaving the house to swim before the family is up, running at lunch while at work, then riding after work and just getting home a little late. During the weekends the family needs come first and there are family things to do. Oh, it is now officially summer in Texas, running and biking in 80/90 degree weather now is the coolest it is going to be for the next four months.
As to extending this into July/August that won’t work for me as I have races in July I’ll be prepping for.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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Got up at 6am to avoid 95F today (DC area). (I'm an academic so I'm frequently still up at that hour, but almost never up by that hour.)

Bike (27.61 miles) is getting more comfortable, "ran" 9k of the 10k with my wife, whose thyroid problems and 6 C-sections have made her weight about double since the time she was running 1000k's, and added a bit over a mile on the treadmill (by then it was too hot outside) to total 6.78 miles, hung out with family (where it got up to 87F on our top floor 'cause our A/C has been spotty), and swam the 1500m fairly comfortably.

Kept caloric intake a bit low today because I still have to lose a lot of weight (at least 25 lbs), and still working on getting foods that sit well considering the greater quantities I now need to consume.

If I get through the first 10 days I will allow myself a gift of new cycling shoes to replace the current ones, which are from the 1980s and have seen better days.

Am hoping my wife will allow me to continue beyond June (she didn't seem too thrilled when I first mentioned it) since I now realize I won't be able to be in semi-reasonable condition even by the end of this month. (I'm shooting for a September race, and, if ready for it, an October one as well.)

Am hoping to see if I can use this same strategy to organize other aspects of my life.

So much for stream-of-consciousness at 2:15am (still trying to get the kids to sleep but I got a nap) when I hope to get up by 6am (3 more consecutive days in the 90s).

Best of luck to all tomorrow, esp. Dev and his swimming situation. (Maybe you should move to Houston, where I hear the pool comes to you... ;-)

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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Greatly improving bike. Starting to remember techniques to get more speed out of the effort. Can hold aero position for a while before gut starts bothering, and comfortable doing a little over 30 miles today.

Disaster on the run. After about 5 miles (in 88F) my left calf seized, didn't respond to massage, and got worse as I walked home, so icing this afternoon. My calves have "gotten" me about half the time I go running, so I may have to do my "runs" on the (inclined) treadmill, which keeps me under control enough so I don't get injured, although it takes a lot longer to complete. (Always used to get injured when run training over 145, and 165 now, so what was I expecting?) No swim this afternoon so as to avoid the push-offs.

I'll probably need to see an ortho for help on what's happening.

So it seems I'll have to take it day-by-day as far as the distances. C'est la vie.

Totals for the first week:

Swim: 5.75 miles (1250 meters short)
Bike: 187.54 miles (13.52 miles over goal)
"Run": 46.01 miles (2.51 miles over)

I hope to get back on track soon, as I'd like to still be able to complete the goal distances for the month (and maybe the next). The good news for me is that there aren't too many 65-69ers (me in November) who are tearing up the run course, so if Humpty can be put back together again well, then I should be OK.

I would love to hear that you guys are doing better.

In the meantime I'll pursue more academic interests (both mine and the kids') and prepare for a coding competition that, in the past, has been 24 hours...

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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@ Devashish - where do you swim in Ottawa? The OW ones, I mean. I live downtown in Sandy Hill so typically use the paths along the river for running & biking, although on weekends I'll often use the Sir George Etienne Pkwy as it is closed to cars and really nice quality pavement.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [lesmash] [ In reply to ]
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I have swam in three places so far. Brittannia Beach which is a good spot when not to windy, Rockcliffe Pond (far for me, but I tried twice, was successful once) if I am going out to do hills on Blair Rd in the east end and run along the river path and ride on the Rockcliffe parkway) and finally Shirley's Bay upstream for Brittannia and the closest to home and more sheltered than Brittannia. I think I used Shirley's bay yesterday for 2800m swim. Its only an 8km bike commute from home.

The good news is it appears that outdoor pools are opening this weekend with our local reopening plan, so I may be able to get slots at one of the two local locations (I am in Kanata neighbourhood).

For day 7 it was an 8km run before work, 16km bike commute to swim, 2800m swim. I am roughly 1700m behind on the swim, 2km ahead on run, and I think around 35km ahead on bike. The plan today is the same and catch up on swim (swim around 3200m) and end up roughly on "pace" in all sports.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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As of day 8, I am 200m ahead on swim, 36km ahead on bike, 4km ahead on run. Essentially even and on pace. I think the key with heat building up is to just get up early and get the run done when it is coolest. The rest I can do later in the day.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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Lost all of the 8th to let the calf recover.
Today (6/9):
Swim: 4700 yards=4298m=1250m (recovery of deficit going into 9/8)+1500m (distance for 9/8)+1500m (distance for 9/9)+48m (extra)
Bike: 37.33 miles=11.34 miles (finish 9/8 with extra from before)+24.86 miles (distance for 9/9)+1.13 miles (extra) (almost 2mph faster than 6/1)
"Run": 0 miles, so 2*6.214-2.51=9.92 miles behind

Hope you guys are doing well.

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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1/2 : swim: 1650yd, bike 32.5 mi, run 11.16
2/5 : swim: 1800yd, bike 25 mi, run 11.01
3/9 : swim: 1800yd. bike 25 mi, run 12
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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As of day 9, I was 1.5km behind on swim, 60+km ahead on bike (I have to go add it up), 4km ahead on run. The wind was totally the wrong way for my open water location in terms of whitecaps, and I can afford to fall behind on the swim because once pools open next week, every swim ends up being 2800-3200m so I suspect I will end up far ahead once I had pool access.

Part of my riding yesterday was the Santa Cruz Ironman "40km" course on Rouvy. I pushed pretty hard and did a 1:04.5x. Time seemed in line with that I would do in real life. Then I did some spinning and got on the Alpe d'Huez climb and did half of it and did a cooldown.

Running I am try to just get up have my oatmeal and jog-run 8-12km every morning with pickups and random hills and fartlek. Most of my intensity is on the bike and as soon as I get in the pool, most of my intensity will be in the pool.

So at the end of today we need 15km swim, 400km bike, 100km run to be "on track"
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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So at start of Day 10 I've been able to stay pretty consistent - enjoying the morning swims, they setup the rest of the day nicely.
Had an off day on Tuesday where I only managed 1500m swimming because sometimes family comes first (well family always comes first but sometimes that means all other activities are put aside).
I'll plan on catching up the bike and run this weekend.
My Garmin watch is not happy with me - it keeps telling me I should be resting.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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HoustonTri(er) wrote:
So at start of Day 10 I've been able to stay pretty consistent - enjoying the morning swims, they setup the rest of the day nicely.
Had an off day on Tuesday where I only managed 1500m swimming because sometimes family comes first (well family always comes first but sometimes that means all other activities are put aside).
I'll plan on catching up the bike and run this weekend.
My Garmin watch is not happy with me - it keeps telling me I should be resting.

Today ended up being a morning 8.5km run. At lunch time I biked over to the shortest bike route to open water (8km), swam 2800m IM strokes and then biked home. After entering all this in the training log, the actuals are

  • swim 15000m
  • bike 413km
  • run 104km


So right on track as of day 10. Once pools open up and I know schedules and then I can see if the actual 1 full Olympic tri per day is doable versus missing swimming and then having to make it up.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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After day 10, what I am finding is that the days after I swim more, I have the most fatigue. I tend to do my hardest intensity in the water. The run, I am mainly jogging. Bike is a mix of easy stuff and intervals or TT's on the trainer. But swimming there is always lots of hard stuff, and then I can barely move he next morning.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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1/2 : swim: 1650yd, bike 32.5 mi, run 11.16
2/5 : swim: 1800yd, bike 25 mi, run 11.01
3/9 : swim: 1800yd. bike 25 mi, run 12
4/11: swim: 1807yd, bike 25mi, run 8.03

im not spilling "roll over yards" for swim. (ex 850 one day, 800 next). if i dont hit 1650yd in the day it doesnt count for me
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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as of day 12,

  • Swim 20,500m
  • Bike 480km
  • Run 125km


Today, got a full reverse Olympic into a forward tri

10km run, then 5km warmup and 40km TT on the Kona course on Rouvy in 1:06, then got my bike out, cycled to pool, did a hard 2800m swim, did some bike spinning on the way home and finished up with 1km of jogging on treadmill. I am 2500m ahead on the swim and 5km ahead on run. Bike is dead even

Tomorrow morning should be a 15km hill run followed by a 50km ride . Then an evening 3000m swim

I am generally trying to do run as first workout of the day on freshest possible legs and swim as last workout going from most weight bearing to least weight bearing which sets me up best for the next day.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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1/2 : swim: 1650yd, bike 32.5 mi, run 11.16
2/5 : swim: 1800yd, bike 25 mi, run 11.01
3/9 : swim: 1800yd. bike 25 mi, run 12
4/11: swim: 1807yd, bike 25mi, run 8.03
5/13: swim: 1602yd, bike 25mi, run 10

i was 20k short on bike yesterday which could have been 6. But I am thankful this challenge is forcing me to get swim volume in by reaching for 1500m. I feel my swim times are improving :)
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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As of day 13, I am at

  • 23200m swim
  • 531km bike
  • 141km run

This morning was a 16km run with 6 hill climbs of ~3 min each and 34km bike with same hill also 6x. Total climbing was 650m vertical. This afternoon was a 2700m swim and 17km commuting on the bike. I got roughly 3 days of buffer on the swim, none on the bike and one day on the run.

I am hoping to get vaccinated later this month, so I will need to build up a bit of a buffer to get to my target given that I expect to have to dial back. Or just resume this silliness when I recover from the vaccine.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Just checking in. Calves have been having "sudden onset" issues (could do nothing on the 8th and not able to complete the 7th or 9th), so having to do the dreaded (and much slower) treadmill, at least at incline, until they're much more solid.

Hanging in there and staying in range. In particular:
Swim: 19619 meters (19500 to be on pace)
Bike: 332.95 miles (323.13 to be on pace)
"Run": 89.91 miles (80.78 to be on pace)

Or, as synthetic likes it (NOTE: outdoor pool in meters, indoor in yards)
1/2: swim 1700m, bike 25.6mi, run 6.41mi
2/4: swim 2250m, bike 26.12mi, run 6.26mi
3/5: swim 2500m, bike 27.80mi, run 7.81mi
4/6: swim 1500m, bike 27.61mi, run 6.78mi
5/11: swim 2500yd, bike 27.69mi, run 10.0mi
6/12: swim 2500yd, bike 25.08mi, run 8.0mi
7/13: swim 1500m, bike 27.68mi, run 8.0mi

I'll have some questions for you guys about "smart" trainers later (mine is old and from Performance Bike), as I'm getting tired of negotiating the geese and numerous (human) obstacles on the bike path, and haven't put it in the big ring just 'cause I don't want to scare anybody (or run them over).

Good luck on getting the vaccine, dev; I took a preemptive Tylenol about 15 hours after the 2nd based on what people on this board were reporting and had minimal "distress", although I'm sure swimming would be impacted by each of the two doses.

Until later.

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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I think I cranked up the intensity too high this weekend between two hard swims (all 4 strokes, lots of fly and dolphin kick), a bike TT on the Kona Rouvy Course and yesterday's 12x run + bike 650m vertical on a steep hill


Bike: https://connect.garmin.com/.../activity/6953339883


Run: https://connect.garmin.com/.../activity/6953339732

My body did not want to get going for a 7am run yet today. I wish I could have done a 7 am swim.

OK day 14 starts. Almost half way there.

Edit: I had a window of an hour mid morning and I needed to go to the office (which has been closed for 14 months) to pick up company mail, so I used the opportunity to force myself to jog over rather than go by car, which then resulted in 9km of today's 10km quote bagged. Sometimes the challenge is not listening to your brain and getting the body out the door. Work task and fitness task completed. Bike over to pool at lunch and hopefully some energy to tack on some additional bike miles after.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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madMike100 wrote:
Or, as synthetic likes it (NOTE: outdoor pool in meters, indoor in yards)
1/2: swim 1700m, bike 25.6mi, run 6.41mi
2/4: swim 2250m, bike 26.12mi, run 6.26mi
3/5: swim 2500m, bike 27.80mi, run 7.81mi
4/6: swim 1500m, bike 27.61mi, run 6.78mi
5/11: swim 2500yd, bike 27.69mi, run 10.0mi
6/12: swim 2500yd, bike 25.08mi, run 8.0mi
7/13: swim 1500m, bike 27.68mi, run 8.0mi

thanks for following the format... gives a clearer picture on the daily effort.

my update:

1/2 : swim: 1650yd, bike 32.5 mi, run 11.16
2/5 : swim: 1800yd, bike 25 mi, run 11.01
3/9 : swim: 1800yd. bike 25 mi, run 12
4/11: swim: 1807yd, bike 25mi, run 8.03
5/13: swim: 1602yd, bike 25mi, run 10
6/14: swim: 2000yd, bike 25mi, run 11.02

my pool swim will have exact yardage.... ows not. (i have alarm set for every 250m)
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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sorry, I am not getting your format at all on 1/2, 2/4, 3/5, 4/6.

What are these numbers?
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
sorry, I am not getting your format at all on 1/2, 2/4, 3/5, 4/6.

What are these numbers?

1/2: First day complete Olympic distance was done was June 2
2/4: Second day complete Olympic distance was done was June 4
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(Only days with >=1500m swim, >=40km bike, and >=10km run counted)

(It took me a while to figure out.)

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [madMike100] [ In reply to ]
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Checking back in.
So again the weekend took a hit with family activities - my kids still want us to do stuff together even though they are teenagers, so I enjoy that time.
The main benefit I'm getting out of this so far is the impetus to get in the pool and swim as that has always been the least consistent part of my training - but when you are not used to swimming everyday this is beginning to fatigue the shoulders.
I have completed the following:
eight days of Olympic Tris
three days of various Olympic Du's (variations of swim-bike, swim-run, bike-run)
three days of single sport activity

now if only I didn't have to go to work..........
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [HoustonTri(er)] [ In reply to ]
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There was a cancellation and I am getting Pfizer dosage 2 tomorrow. I am thinking, I need to pause this for a week after that and then get back on to finish the final 15 days.

As of today I am at 28.2km swim, 611k bike, 158k. so I am perfectly on track for my goal for the month at the halfway point. So I will see how I feel after vaccine, but its probably not a great idea to push 3 hrs per training per day right after a vaccine. Maybe start another 15 days starting 21 June to July 4 with a target to hit 25km swim, 600km bike, 300km run (basically half the target for the month).

Dev
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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My family is 50/50 for the vaccine.
Myself and my daughter had no effects from either of our doses - I trained, lightly, the day of and straight after. My wife and son both spent the day after their second dose in bed with fevers and chills. Hopefully you are in the no-effects group, but it seems to be a crap shoot as to each persons response.
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Didn't have too much trouble after either except for arm/shoulder. But I wasn't doing anything at that time either. I expect you would be able to do a level 1 effort for the land parts at least. (And I took a Tylenol about 12 hours after my second shot.)

As far as progress:
8/14: swim 2600m, bike 30.62mi, "run" 8.00mi
9/15: swim 4000m, bike 40.39mi, "run" 10.00mi (land part with the same numbers but miles, not km, and I got to 40 pts for all 3, a first for me)

As far as total distances this gets me an additional cushion of 3600m for the swim, a little over 20 miles on the bike, and a little less than 6 miles on the run.

(I have a 24-hour programming contest later this month going from 9am-9am later this month, and I hope it only knocks out one day, but I may be bushed after the 24 hours. At least I tied (but with a bunch of others) for the high qualifying score.)

Now I have to prepare for a homeschool portfolio review for 4 of my kids (7, 10, 12, and 14 yo) in the state that hates homeschoolers most (Maryland, thanks to their overly powerful NEA) (or maybe it's the county, Prince George's). (They have to have 6 pieces of documentation showing "regular instruction" for each of 8 subjects. And the kids being nationally ranked in a subject means nothing to them, I still have to collect 6 pages of paperwork for the subject!) (192 pages total!)

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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HoustonTri(er) wrote:
My family is 50/50 for the vaccine.
Myself and my daughter had no effects from either of our doses - I trained, lightly, the day of and straight after. My wife and son both spent the day after their second dose in bed with fevers and chills. Hopefully you are in the no-effects group, but it seems to be a crap shoot as to each persons response.

My reaction was really bad during first round...in bed, missed work, 3 weeks of off and on fevers and headaches (fever at night, headaches most of the day). I had Astrazeneca on round one and getting Pfizer on round two. Last time was was jogging a few days later, but I kept intensity really low for 3 weeks until that stuff cleared. I don't think it should be so bad this time (let's see). I may have had very mild Covid19 in early March 2020 before lockdowns but never got tested which would explain my reaction.

If I recall on my first vaccine, I was unable to push my intensity on the rowing machine and on treadmill or track for quite a while. I felt off so I never messed around. So I want to play it conservatively. Lets see.
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Good luck.

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Going into vaccine two on day 16, my workout was 10km running, then an hour on Rouvy with a 33 min 20km TT, then bike commute to pool, 3000m swim, bike commute home (total 3000m swim, 48km bike, 10km running). I'll decide after a few days if I want to resume light training and then ramp up big time in the last 5 days of the month to finish on 30 June or finish my last 14 days after a vaccine break and finish around July 5.
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Re: A Month of Olympic Tris (30/30) - Who is in on June 1? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
HoustonTri(er) wrote:
My family is 50/50 for the vaccine.
Myself and my daughter had no effects from either of our doses - I trained, lightly, the day of and straight after. My wife and son both spent the day after their second dose in bed with fevers and chills. Hopefully you are in the no-effects group, but it seems to be a crap shoot as to each persons response.

My reaction was really bad during first round...in bed, missed work, 3 weeks of off and on fevers and headaches (fever at night, headaches most of the day). I had Astrazeneca on round one and getting Pfizer on round two. Last time was was jogging a few days later, but I kept intensity really low for 3 weeks until that stuff cleared. I don't think it should be so bad this time (let's see). I may have had very mild Covid19 in early March 2020 before lockdowns but never got tested which would explain my reaction.

If I recall on my first vaccine, I was unable to push my intensity on the rowing machine and on treadmill or track for quite a while. I felt off so I never messed around. So I want to play it conservatively. Lets see.

I certainly don’t want to derail, but I am briefly. Pardon my interruption.
1. Best wishes with the vaccine #2. Hope you don’t have side effects. Glad you (and so many of my Canadian brethren) are getting their 2nd doses.
2. AstraZeneca and the Pfizer. Interesting. I’ve never heard of that and have questions regarding the varying types of vaccines.
3. An Olympic a day is so tough. For all of you doing that, we’ll done!!!
4. #communityimmunity
5. Carry on.
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1/2 : swim: 1650yd, bike 32.5 mi, run 11.16
2/5 : swim: 1800yd, bike 25 mi, run 11.01
3/9 : swim: 1800yd. bike 25 mi, run 12
4/11: swim: 1807yd, bike 25mi, run 8.03
5/13: swim: 1602yd, bike 25mi, run 10
6/14: swim: 2000yd, bike 25mi, run 11.02
7/16: swim: 2000yd, bike 26mi, run 11

regarding my run today... https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...diagnosis__P7535772/[/font]
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synthetic wrote:
1/2 : swim: 1650yd, bike 32.5 mi, run 11.16
2/5 : swim: 1800yd, bike 25 mi, run 11.01
3/9 : swim: 1800yd. bike 25 mi, run 12
4/11: swim: 1807yd, bike 25mi, run 8.03
5/13: swim: 1602yd, bike 25mi, run 10
6/14: swim: 2000yd, bike 25mi, run 11.02
7/16: swim: 2000yd, bike 26mi, run 11

regarding my run today... https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...diagnosis__P7535772/[/font]


I'm glad to see it looks like you're back. (But if you want to be careful and hold off I'll try to stick with you if the Mrs. will allow it.)

I've been getting a little over-excited, so please bear with me (like at least 30 Kahuna points in each discipline, and 100 for the day for each of the last 2 days before today.)

10/16: swim: 3200m, bike 30.19mi, run 9.11mi (3 on treadmill to protect my calves, and the rest at the track because I can't stand the treadmill any more)
11/17: swim: 4000m, bike 30.47mi, run 7.50mi (on the track)

So far, today (18th) I did about 18 miles cycling (I had no legs) before I crashed avoiding an errant pedestrian. (They changed line forcing me off the path.) Some people walked me home (It might have been them who I was avoiding crashing into). At the beginning I didn't remember I was in an accident, but now I remember most of it. Anyway, I have a nice hematoma next to the ball of my left foot and my jaw is pretty sore, but no scrapes or significant injuries. To finish waiting out the "concussion protocol" I started walking on the treadmill. Since it was much easier to continue than to start walking, I decided to do 6.25 miles at once to get it over with. Anyway, missed the morning pool session, but I'm also scheduled for afternoon, so I'm going in a few minutes. I just hope I'm swimming better than the Evergreen (boat).
(I just had to get this off my chest. Thanks for bearing with me.)
I'll report on totals at the end of the day.

(Hey Houston: Don't follow our lead!)

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Took a full day off second vaccine. Unlike first vaccine limited reaction after 48 hrs other than a fever last night. Today felt quite normal. Did a 1500m swim stopping every 25m for 5 breaths to keep heart rate down. It was actually quite nice. I have not done such as easy swim since my last ironman 6 years ago.

I will take a few more days easy and assess when I should resume this madness. I think it makes the most sense to do whatever feels easy for three more days and after that 5 day gap gradually ramp back and try to get the mileage target done by July 5
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12/18: swim 3200m, bike 32.14mi (in 2 parts), "run" 6.25mi

Crash points pretty sore tonight. I'll see how I'm doing tomorrow.
Totals for month:
Swim: 36619m (vs 27000m needed) (6 days ahead)
Bike: 496.88mi (vs 447.41mi needed) (about 2 days ahead)
"Run": 130.77mi (vs 111.85mi needed) (about 3 days ahead)

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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well I was feeling pretty good last night and got on the Kickr bike for the equivalent of 20km of riding (I did not ride a course, just 45 min easy) and 2x1.5km jogging on treadmill with stretching in between. Kept heart rate down but could not keep myself on sidelines.

Heading to pool later today.
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madMike100 wrote:
12/18: swim 3200m, bike 32.14mi (in 2 parts), "run" 6.25mi

Crash points pretty sore tonight. I'll see how I'm doing tomorrow.
Totals for month:
Swim: 36619m (vs 27000m needed) (6 days ahead)
Bike: 496.88mi (vs 447.41mi needed) (about 2 days ahead)
"Run": 130.77mi (vs 111.85mi needed) (about 3 days ahead)

Continuing:
13/19: swim 3600yd, bike 33.47mi, "run" 6.53mi
14/20: swim 4000m, bike 33.44mi, "run" 8.06mi

Running on fumes today. Had to "ride" the kids last night until 3am to get them to sleep, and then my wife was wide awake, so we talked until 5am.
Finding a few painful reminders of the fall from the bike: (1) as usual, the ball of the left foot (hematoma) making it painful to run/walk (2) some muscle on the right side of the neck is very painful when I use it, so I have to use my hand to help lift my head from the pillow (3) just above the left elbow, and (4) something with an abdominal muscle.

Totals for month:
Swim: 43911m (vs 30000m needed) (9 days ahead)
Bike: 563.79mi (vs 497.12mi needed) (nearing 3 days ahead)
"Run": 145.36mi (vs 124.48mi needed) (more than 3 days ahead)

Since you're probably wondering who the hell is this 64-year-old who's doing this and probably have doubts about the stuff I'm posting I should probably give a little background.

My name is Mike Roberts and I used to do a lot of long races. The website hosted by Jorge Andonie (organizer of the Deca etc. in Monterrey) that announced me as the first to complete 100 Irons (32 singles, 10 doubles, 2 triples, 2 quads, 2 decas, 1 15x by November 1995) is gone, but that indicates what I used to do. In 1990 I completed all 4 of the continuous ultras (including a triple and double back-to-back weekends). From 1987-1990 I had back-to-back-to-back races of Ironman Canada the weekend before Labor Day, the Double in Huntsville on Labor Day weekend, and the Endurance Triathlon (Iron distance) the weekend after that. (I must add that none of the times were fast.)

In 1994 I was racing in Lensahn, Germany when an a**hole drove off the road to get around my support van who was blocking the road (about 100 miles into the bike) so I could make a left. The guy was screaming at me for quite a while I was lying on the ground, apparently because he was upset I broke his windshield. The only thing I understood of his tirade was "Oh, scheiss" when he found out I was an American. The skin on my right shin was sliced for about 3/4 of its length, but I didn't even feel it because my left knee was killing me. (It was painful enough I couldn't move.) The German police wouldn't talk to me even though there was a fluent translator there. They completely screwed up what my injuries were (they said I had a concussion, even though I didn't even have a headache.) Then, when the German doctors said I was going to be fine, I asked them whose leg they had been looking at. (While nothing was broken, I had even had hematomas in the bones and lots of fluid running free in my leg.) Needless to say, the bike (and the trip) were destroyed. The guy was only fined $30 (equivalent) for reckless driving because he was unemployed, but they sent me a bill of about $60 for the ambulance. (No, I did not pay.) But since this was the year after Monica Seles got stabbed and this a**hole lived in a town neighboring to that of her stabber, I knew there was no point in trying to follow up. (Her stabber got probation only.) But in spite of losing out on the last 2 IUTA races of the year (and the breaking of a 7 year streak of doing the double in Huntsville) I still ended up in 2nd on the IUTA standings. (That website IS still around.)

Since the accident I haven't done much. I used my prior training to get me through a few races. I completed an Iron-distance and the 15X after that. In 1997 and 1998 I participated in the (continuous) Deca (Monterrey) but had a problem that a nurse said were ulcers in my feet. (In both races I completed the swim and bike, but stopped after 7 marathons in 1997 and 4 in 1998.) By then I was working on my doctorate with an advisor who was against my doing triathlon (or taking time to play violin), and in 2000 I got married and the kids (6 total, all by C-section) started sprouting. I did a little something around 2006 even though I was out of shape, going down twice to Monterrey to take part in a 10x1 Iron event. In the first I completed 6 and in the second only 4, although in the second I focused more on my wife's race (5x1) after I lost mine. (She missed the 3rd day start since she thought she was having a thyroid attack (it wasn't), but completed 3 in 4 days. We decided to take a vacation day on the last day since neither one of us was completing the race.) After one of these trips I got home and found I had been dealing with a torn meniscus, which got scoped.

Anyway, haven't done too much since then because the 3rd-6th kids are all spaced about 2 years apart (youngest is 7), and everything I've been doing has been at their pace.

So that brings us to now. Pretty much nothing for about 13 years (although some long (4 hour) uphill walking workouts on the treadmill earlier this year to lose weight) and dev comes up with this great idea. So I thought, "This will jump-start me if it doesn't kill me." At the beginning the bike and "run" were very difficult and not enjoyable, as it all was very labored, I couldn't hit aero position (because of my big gut), and my times were depressing. I also had mechanicals on days 1, 3, and 5 on the bike. I injured my calf on a very easy run on day 7 to the point where I needed to take the next day off entirely. (My swim, I should note, has always felt relaxing, although it is still at the point where I don't want to know what my times are.) Anyway, using dev's "training plan", I've dropped 7 pounds (although I still need to drop 25 more to get to my old racing weight), my pulse (60->54) and diaphragm have improved, I can hold aero position for quite a while now (although neck and shoulders start to complain), and with the improving muscular response I feel the vascular network is being relaid. So thanks, dev, for getting me kicked into gear again.

Now, I have a few questions. (Remember, I'm still stuck in the 1990's.) Do you have some trainer (not too pricey) that you really like? I don't ride on roads since the accident (except for one I found that only carries cemetery traffic) and I don't like to have to worry about having to wipe out (like on the 18th) to avoid the Helen Kellers (blind and deaf because of the smart devices) and unchaperoned kids in the park, and that's ignoring all the massive slow-downs for families covering the entire path. I have a very old Performance Bike Shop trainer, but I have to work MUCH harder on it than in real life and it gets depressing. So that info (or a pointer to an appropriate thread) would be very helpful.

At another time I'll have more questions, but this is already way too long and it's 4:30am, so I better get to sleep. Hopefully I've given you an idea of where this new, unknown guy (me) is coming from, and I hope all of you (esp. dev and synthetic) are doing well.

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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Mike sorry for not replying yet. Now all this makes more sense. I will reply back in some more detail. After getting vaccinated 5 days ago, I played it pretty conservative, but I am still around 3 days ahead on swimming (that is what I started out with), and half a day behind on bike, and 2.5 days behind on the run. My energy levels have been good and aside from one night, no major symptoms, but I have been keeping heart rate low. Today was essentially my first real run back (10km). Up till today, I was doing short 2x1km jogs or 2x2km jogs per day. My theory is that running needs the most recovery so between backing off the heart rate in training and backing off run volume, I give the vaccine the best chance to work my immune system.

Now with 9 days left, I have to decide if I want to ramp it all back up. I lean towards catching up and getting it all done by 30 June as I am not too far behind. Three 15km running days and I have caught up 1.5 days, and then on the last day, I can do a 20km.....so I would need to do something like this 10/15/10/15/10/15/10/10/20 to get it done. Or just 12.5km per day which may be easier.
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Very inspiring story, the most inspiring may be 64 years old with a 7 year old and still going at it. I may have to get my butt out and go for a jog in the morning.
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1/2 : swim: 1650yd, bike 32.5 mi, run 11.16
2/5 : swim: 1800yd, bike 25 mi, run 11.01
3/9 : swim: 1800yd. bike 25 mi, run 12
4/11: swim: 1807yd, bike 25mi, run 8.03
5/13: swim: 1602yd, bike 25mi, run 10
6/14: swim: 2000yd, bike 25mi, run 11.02
7/16: swim: 2000yd, bike 26mi, run 11
8/21: swim: 1650yd, bike 28mi, run 11.1

my nearby pool finally opened up. hit my predicted goal of 8 in a month, with some more time to get some in.

as for monthly volume:

Swim:7h 15m 15s - 22950 Yd
Bike:40h 46m 23s - 578.25 Mi
Run:29h 11m 54s - 217.03 Mi


run hit the monthly distance needed, bike on track, swim will be a miss but one of my highest volume months in 2 year thank to this challenge.
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Well I seem to have been lucky so far and not had any of the injuries, setbacks, accidents/incidents that others have had - the only problem has been the interruptions from work and family.
Having said that I can definitely tell the difference when I have a day where I am only able to complete one workout of whichever discipline - the next day I feel much more lively. The fatigue is real if you aren't used to doing this volume - and I think the effort of making it to each discipline is harder than just doing the same overall workout time but bigger blocks of each discipline.

as of this morning I have completed the following:
twelve days of Olympic Tris
four days of various Olympic Du's (variations of swim-bike, swim-run, bike-run)
five days of single sport activity

my new goal is to see how close I can make it 20 tris for the month
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yeah, that's the thing....each of us has our own challenge and having to make it to the start line of three sports every day for a substantial outing of each (call is 30 min dedicated to swim plus overhead, 90 min for bike inclusive of overhead, 60 min of run inclusive of overhead), makes it a grind.

If I make it to start line of swim, I always exceed 1.5km. On weekend, the bike will always exceeds. During the week, 8-10km run is easy....it is roughly 40-60 min inclusive of overhead that I can do in between meetings. The bike on weekdays is hit and miss, but usually I can catch up by weekend or over a few days
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1/2 : swim: 1650yd, bike 32.5 mi, run 11.16
2/5 : swim: 1800yd, bike 25 mi, run 11.01
3/9 : swim: 1800yd. bike 25 mi, run 12
4/11: swim: 1807yd, bike 25mi, run 8.03
5/13: swim: 1602yd, bike 25mi, run 10
6/14: swim: 2000yd, bike 25mi, run 11.02
7/16: swim: 2000yd, bike 26mi, run 11
8/21: swim: 1650yd, bike 28mi, run 11.1
9/23: swim: 1650yd, bike 28.5, run 11.7

near double digits

sunday setting up an olympic tri in san diego, fiesta island 6:29 am - all welcome
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Today was a good but tough Olympic tri day

Morning was 4km run + 50km of biking, inclusive of a 40km TT on the Rouvy IM Chattanooga bike course and short commute to pool + 2200m swim (last 900m as 6x {50 fly + 100 free}. Evening easy 8km recovery run.

The 40km TT was tough. According to Rouvy 1:03, but I suspect in real life it would be more like a 1:05. Still a solid ride.

Looks like my totals are 47km swimming, 902km bike, 209.5km running with 7 days left in the month.

So it looks like I am over the mileage target for swim, 300km to go on bike and 90.5km go on run. The bike should be easy enough to hit, but I may be tight on days to log the run target by June 30th.

Today was the first high intensity day since vaccine a week ago, and I think I can start pushing. I was relunctant to do too much running post vaccine because that is the one that needs the more recovery. Today was a good intensity test with the TT so I think I can start to rev up the running now. I may need to do some run commuting to pool to add in extra run miles
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15/21: swim 1750yd, bike 33.47mi, "run" 8.06mi
22: Day off for injury recovery (needed especially for the ball of the left foot because it wasn't coming back 4 days after the accident)
16/23: swim 2200yd, bike 25.16mi, "run" 10.44mi


Totals:
Swim: 47523m (vs 34500m needed) (9 days ahead, and more than needed for the month)
Bike: 622.42mi (vs 571.69mi needed) (about 2 days ahead)
"Run": 163.86mi (vs 142.92mi needed) (more than 3 days ahead)


I'm probably missing the 26th because I have a 24-hour programming competition that day at 9am. (I have to make sure which time zone because the group hosting it is from Russia.)


Glad everyone seems to be recovered.





Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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I have to run 13km per day to hit my target. I ran 13km at lunch, and will swim and bike after work, but I don't think a single 13km run daily is the way I will get there. I think I have do divide this up into a 5km run tacked onto a swim-bike and another standalone 8km elsewhere in the day. I can now afford three days at 10km if I want to do 20km on the last day.

Whenever I have done any block involving a running mileage target it is almost NEVER a good idea when you have to do a big amount in the last few days. It works for swimming and biking, but not that well with running. Running its better to chew it off evenly.
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got to the pool ready to get #10 in and forgot my damn bike lock. #fail
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synthetic wrote:
got to the pool ready to get #10 in and forgot my damn bike lock. #fail

You could not bribe pool staff to let you bring it on deck?

My evening was awesome. Lifeguards let me in early so I got a 65 min 3100m swim....last set was 200 fly, 100 free, 100 fly, 100 free, 50 fly, 50 free, 50 fly, 50 free, 50 fly, 50 free, 50 fly, 50 free, 100 free (so ~1km of half fly half free)!!!! plus 25km of bike commuting. So a solid tri day. Not a full Olympic tri, but extra on swim and run today with the 13km at lunch time run
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17/24: swim 2200yd, bike 25.19mi, run 6.42mi
18/25: swim 1650yd, bike 25.11mi, run 7.08mi

Totals:
Swim: 51043m (vs 37500m needed) (9 days ahead, more than needed for month)
Bike: 672.72mi (vs 621.40mi needed) (still about 2 days ahead)
"Run": 177.35mi (vs 155.35mi needed) (about 3 days ahead)

I (now 10 pounds lighter) promised myself if I could keep this up for 10 days I would get some new cycling shoes, but I haven't had time to. Now my right cycling shoe is angry it can't go into retirement (I think the pair is over 30 years old), so it's going on strike by having the upper part separate from the lower!

All right, I'm "off" tomorrow (because of the 24-hour bioinformatics programming competition starting at 9am) but hope to be back on track on Sunday. (I might be a little tired.) Hopefully the right shoe will hold out until I can get a new one.

Best of luck to all. (Here (DC area) we'll be pretty warm, with 87 tomorrow, 91 Sunday, and 94-97 for the last 3 days of the month, and our A/C is out.)

Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).
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1/2 : swim: 1650yd, bike 32.5 mi, run 11.16
2/5 : swim: 1800yd, bike 25 mi, run 11.01
3/9 : swim: 1800yd. bike 25 mi, run 12
4/11: swim: 1807yd, bike 25mi, run 8.03
5/13: swim: 1652yd, bike 25mi, run 10
6/14: swim: 2000yd, bike 25mi, run 11.02
7/16: swim: 2000yd, bike 26mi, run 11
8/21: swim: 1650yd, bike 28mi, run 11.1
9/23: swim: 1650yd, bike 28.5, run 11.7
10/26: swim: 1650yd, bike 25, run 10.05

really wanted double digits, even though have a full olympic tomorrow.
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This morning was a 65 km hard ride and 5km run. Evening was 6km run commuting to pool and 2700m swim
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It looks like I am 4 days ahead on swim, 0.5 days behind on bike and 1.7days behind on run with 4 days to go. Given that I lost two days of progress in the middle due to vaccination, and then 3 light days where I fell further behind, this seems like the limit of catch up as I did not want to overdo things in the first week after vaccine. So I am the first 3 days of my second week post vaccine and figure that I the amout I am doing is just right and wrapping up on July 1st (Canada day Holiday) is a great way to end up this challenge. 1 day late, but given vaccination mid way, it will be a good way to celebrate getting to the mileage target

From what I see there were 4 days that I did not do a triathlon of some kind. Other than that every day it was somewhere from a sprint to an olympic to a 1.5 olympic day. I think so far my longest run day is 16km, longest bike day is 90km, longest swim 3000m. Basically I kept it at a level that if could get out of bed the next day and crank out an Olympic tri physically if I managed the rest of my life to fit it in (and I don't even have kids to worry about....just work and train).

If I can't do any racing in August then I may given this another try. I actually found it quite fun getting to 20+ hrs weeks with decently high quality in all sports. I don't think any of this ended being survival other than maybe one run. Biking and swimming was all quite high quality. I probably gave away some higher effort running and doing hills just to play it safe.
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