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Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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Looks like that guy is trying to sell it to My Bike Shop. I'd contact them to cancel that transaction too. If you have his info then contact the local police to file a report. You know his name and address.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [loxx0050]
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Just had a nice call with the My Bike Shop folks, they have not been in contact with Garry.
Few more screenshots:
Someone else also got in contact with him.
Here is my side of the conversation:
Few more screenshots:
Someone else also got in contact with him.
Here is my side of the conversation:
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dudemanppl: Nov 17, 17 14:16
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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This was my post and i shimano group i was selling was a tale off pirchase from jcooley on a speed concept 3 weeks ago
But that for attacks
You stop responding to me when requested to return on my dime, had to get paypal involved i offered the same solution again and you refused paypal escalated and sent me a refund.
Trek madon 6 series project 1 size 56 frame set 900$ Yellow and black
Trek emonda SL6 large viper red and black
1500 for the frame set or $1900 built with ultegra 11s
Hed jet flame rouge disc and 9 pair 10s
Can be upgraded to 11s. $1050
For the pair
Zipp disc clincher with Aluminium brake strip 10s $550
Sram etap road group new in box $1300
Sram etap tt / tri up grade kit with sram tt990 brake levers 1300
Trek Speed concept Gen 2 L 7.0 crystal white $1800 store demo mint condition
( can offer it with the 7.5 cockpit ) + $200
Trek speed concept 7.5 gen 2 large ultegra 11s 6800 build $2400 willing to part out
Black red grey and white
Trek speed concept 7.5 gen 2 medium ultegra 11s 6800 build $2400 willing to part out
Trek speed concept 7.5 gen 2 peoject 1 medium sram red wifli r2c build with cobb 160mm crank
Grey pink and blue
Trek speed concept 9 series gen 2 peoject 1 medium Frame set uci legal version green black and white
2600 ( store demo mint condition )
Trek speed concept 9 series gen 2 medium Frame set black grey and white built with ultegra 6870 11s di2
Team raced bike in great condition
$3600
Zipp 404 firecrest tubulars 10s hub shimano sram $900
Shimano ultegra 6870 di2 tt group used take off 750$
BMC TM01 small used 1 season been hanging in the shop for a year $1600 shipped
But that for attacks
You stop responding to me when requested to return on my dime, had to get paypal involved i offered the same solution again and you refused paypal escalated and sent me a refund.
Trek madon 6 series project 1 size 56 frame set 900$ Yellow and black
Trek emonda SL6 large viper red and black
1500 for the frame set or $1900 built with ultegra 11s
Hed jet flame rouge disc and 9 pair 10s
Can be upgraded to 11s. $1050
For the pair
Zipp disc clincher with Aluminium brake strip 10s $550
Sram etap road group new in box $1300
Sram etap tt / tri up grade kit with sram tt990 brake levers 1300
Trek Speed concept Gen 2 L 7.0 crystal white $1800 store demo mint condition
( can offer it with the 7.5 cockpit ) + $200
Trek speed concept 7.5 gen 2 large ultegra 11s 6800 build $2400 willing to part out
Black red grey and white
Trek speed concept 7.5 gen 2 medium ultegra 11s 6800 build $2400 willing to part out
Trek speed concept 7.5 gen 2 peoject 1 medium sram red wifli r2c build with cobb 160mm crank
Grey pink and blue
Trek speed concept 9 series gen 2 peoject 1 medium Frame set uci legal version green black and white
2600 ( store demo mint condition )
Trek speed concept 9 series gen 2 medium Frame set black grey and white built with ultegra 6870 11s di2
Team raced bike in great condition
$3600
Zipp 404 firecrest tubulars 10s hub shimano sram $900
Shimano ultegra 6870 di2 tt group used take off 750$
BMC TM01 small used 1 season been hanging in the shop for a year $1600 shipped
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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So.... Can you return my groupset or are you keeping it?
His first response to me! Not very happy. :(
And another unhappy customer
His first response to me! Not very happy. :(
And another unhappy customer
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dudemanppl: Nov 17, 17 15:17
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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Was not going to get involved in this, but editing the post to fit your claims is just scammy.
The Speed Concept you referred to came with a used 6870 groupset:
Before you deleted it, your ad listed a new 6870 groupset:
Now that you're claiming that the groupset you were selling is from the Speed Concept, you copy pasted your ad but changed the text to say used?
The Speed Concept you referred to came with a used 6870 groupset:
Before you deleted it, your ad listed a new 6870 groupset:
Now that you're claiming that the groupset you were selling is from the Speed Concept, you copy pasted your ad but changed the text to say used?
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Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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unitedathletica wrote:
This was my post and i shimano group i was selling was a tale off pirchase from jcooley on a speed concept 3 weeks ago But that for attacks
You stop responding to me when requested to return on my dime, had to get paypal involved i offered the same solution again and you refused paypal escalated and sent me a refund.
Trek madon 6 series project 1 size 56 frame set 900$ Yellow and black
Trek emonda SL6 large viper red and black
1500 for the frame set or $1900 built with ultegra 11s
Hed jet flame rouge disc and 9 pair 10s
Can be upgraded to 11s. $1050
For the pair
Zipp disc clincher with Aluminium brake strip 10s $550
Sram etap road group new in box $1300
Sram etap tt / tri up grade kit with sram tt990 brake levers 1300
Trek Speed concept Gen 2 L 7.0 crystal white $1800 store demo mint condition
( can offer it with the 7.5 cockpit ) + $200
Trek speed concept 7.5 gen 2 large ultegra 11s 6800 build $2400 willing to part out
Black red grey and white
Trek speed concept 7.5 gen 2 medium ultegra 11s 6800 build $2400 willing to part out
Trek speed concept 7.5 gen 2 peoject 1 medium sram red wifli r2c build with cobb 160mm crank
Grey pink and blue
Trek speed concept 9 series gen 2 peoject 1 medium Frame set uci legal version green black and white
2600 ( store demo mint condition )
Trek speed concept 9 series gen 2 medium Frame set black grey and white built with ultegra 6870 11s di2
Team raced bike in great condition
$3600
Zipp 404 firecrest tubulars 10s hub shimano sram $900
Shimano ultegra 6870 di2 tt group used take off 750$
BMC TM01 small used 1 season been hanging in the shop for a year $1600 shipped
Just going to quote this in case you feel the need to delete it after being called out on your bs...
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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I have had no negative feedback on this forum , i did have a pretty bad bike crash. i have had a ton of transactions since 2014 without issue +600 feedback on ebay no issues.
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unitedathletica: Nov 17, 17 16:40
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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So do you still have the 6870 group?
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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this is getting more and more interesting. he also posted a speed concept for sale two weeks ago (i don’t have a copy of the original post, might be the current one but edited). i sent him a message asking about it and he sent me a link to a FB group posting. interestingly enough there was the SAME EXACT post by someone else three posts down. same exact pics. i asked him about it and his response was “I bought the bike on ebay , to recycle another frame that was missing the front end ( lost by FedEx in transit )
I also have multiple mono extension options straight bar and s-bend if yo prefer one of those option over the ergo long â€
i stopped contacting after that because it seemed too curious. also within the same hour his FB posting was then taken down. glad i didn’t proceed; good luck to you tho.
I also have multiple mono extension options straight bar and s-bend if yo prefer one of those option over the ergo long â€
i stopped contacting after that because it seemed too curious. also within the same hour his FB posting was then taken down. glad i didn’t proceed; good luck to you tho.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [lhmd21]
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I almost sold a set f wheels to this guy via Pinkbike also. Has two accounts here I believe. garry_tri and unitedathletica. Everything was fishy. Nothing was going to be easy. Ship to one location. Nope ship to this location. Nope I'll send a prepaid shipping box. I feel for you mann. This guy seems like a difficult one to please and deal with. I hope he does the right thing by you.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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Very unethical and thanks for the warning. Be nice if Slowtwich would inactivate his account(s). All though you originally said no refunds, you contacted PayPal for reimbursement. The right thing for the buyer to do is return the item. It’s clear his intentions are not in the best interest for forums such as this.
Hope you get your item back.
"Heart Rate, Watts, I have no idea, I race, I don't pace." Andrew Starykowicz
Hope you get your item back.
"Heart Rate, Watts, I have no idea, I race, I don't pace." Andrew Starykowicz
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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Im not sure if i get a say in this mud sling fest at least i hope its mud !
the PayPal refund happend 2 days ago !
- Purchased a group from the seller
- the group i purchased was for my team bike from 2017 i needed a good cheap group to sell it with, since this arrived not complete.The group had been forwarded to me from American mail and parcels, the shop i store my outgoing gear at. It was forwarded to Toronto, Canada where i am up visiting family before heading back down south post the the holidays.
I ended up having to upgrade the bike to an sram red 22 Etap group because that all i had which was a loss on my part. It was going to a serviceman deploying to Afghanistan and was time sensitive. At this point i was still willing to ship back.
original cost of the group $820 ( $820 was refunded by PayPal )
$820 USD to CAD via xe.com $1060 CAD
cost duty into Canada
via http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/...acl/est-cal-eng.html
$317 CAD via to USD via xe.com $249 USD
cost of forwarding service $8
cost of brokerage service $32
cost of shipping from the mail forwarder in champlain NY $44
cost of being trolled harasses priceless ! lol
my cost despite the refund : 333 USD
- He failed to ship the agreed upon package as advertised.
- I requested i ship it back and he refund me
- he booted me from swap meet where he is an admin , and stop responding so block him as well on every platform to force PayPal based communication
- i open a claim with PayPal offering the same scenario as before. I return for a refund what he had sent
- He refused , the claim escalated
- he did not refund me as stated PayPal intervened and settled on my behalf since the seller was not willing to take it back. Refund came after i called PayPal and with assistance with forwarding needed documents so you have hard time with truth i was on the phone with PayPal when they were reviewing the case and they told me they would refund me since he was not willing to
- called PayPal to ask what to do about the goods they told whatever, he made it clear he was not taking back.
what makes me irritated and is slowing down the resolution time
- i was willing to send the goods back when trying to locate the original listing i noticed he had banned me despite not violating any of the rules.
-Seller has been having friends troll me on FB, I have had 48 messages from his mignons and 28 missed calls from random California #'s where he shipped from just today
- I had requested to have the seller communicate via PayPal instead of everywhere else all at once holding my hostage. - I was given a return label yes but the the wrong location without comunication
I have been at the track in Pan am velodrome in Burlington Ontario eh ! since Wednesday this is my first time able to actually respond at my desktop.
I will do my best to respond to all the questions everyone, im am getting via call text Facebook from his consented friends and family
Still willing to work with you despite how great of an experience this has been but it would be a lot easier without the harassment.
i have + 600 feedback on my ebay i have no current negative feedback here my only negative feedback if this and i am the buyer. 127 selling transaction in the year without any major bumps.
the PayPal refund happend 2 days ago !
- Purchased a group from the seller
- the group i purchased was for my team bike from 2017 i needed a good cheap group to sell it with, since this arrived not complete.The group had been forwarded to me from American mail and parcels, the shop i store my outgoing gear at. It was forwarded to Toronto, Canada where i am up visiting family before heading back down south post the the holidays.
I ended up having to upgrade the bike to an sram red 22 Etap group because that all i had which was a loss on my part. It was going to a serviceman deploying to Afghanistan and was time sensitive. At this point i was still willing to ship back.
original cost of the group $820 ( $820 was refunded by PayPal )
$820 USD to CAD via xe.com $1060 CAD
cost duty into Canada
via http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/...acl/est-cal-eng.html
$317 CAD via to USD via xe.com $249 USD
cost of forwarding service $8
cost of brokerage service $32
cost of shipping from the mail forwarder in champlain NY $44
cost of being trolled harasses priceless ! lol
my cost despite the refund : 333 USD
- He failed to ship the agreed upon package as advertised.
- I requested i ship it back and he refund me
- he booted me from swap meet where he is an admin , and stop responding so block him as well on every platform to force PayPal based communication
- i open a claim with PayPal offering the same scenario as before. I return for a refund what he had sent
- He refused , the claim escalated
- he did not refund me as stated PayPal intervened and settled on my behalf since the seller was not willing to take it back. Refund came after i called PayPal and with assistance with forwarding needed documents so you have hard time with truth i was on the phone with PayPal when they were reviewing the case and they told me they would refund me since he was not willing to
- called PayPal to ask what to do about the goods they told whatever, he made it clear he was not taking back.
what makes me irritated and is slowing down the resolution time
- i was willing to send the goods back when trying to locate the original listing i noticed he had banned me despite not violating any of the rules.
-Seller has been having friends troll me on FB, I have had 48 messages from his mignons and 28 missed calls from random California #'s where he shipped from just today
- I had requested to have the seller communicate via PayPal instead of everywhere else all at once holding my hostage. - I was given a return label yes but the the wrong location without comunication
I have been at the track in Pan am velodrome in Burlington Ontario eh ! since Wednesday this is my first time able to actually respond at my desktop.
I will do my best to respond to all the questions everyone, im am getting via call text Facebook from his consented friends and family
Still willing to work with you despite how great of an experience this has been but it would be a lot easier without the harassment.
i have + 600 feedback on my ebay i have no current negative feedback here my only negative feedback if this and i am the buyer. 127 selling transaction in the year without any major bumps.
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Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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Hey cool, more lies. I'm okay with that. I was the one that called in to paypal to tell them to refund you. Nobody who messaged or called you is my friend, I just put your information out there so other people can be warned. It seems like everyone has a story about you, and you have a bad rap locally too. Try not to play bad guy. So anyway, can you ship it back yet?
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dudemanppl: Nov 17, 17 19:27
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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If he has both your money and gear, can you not contact his local PD for help?
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [SBRcanuck]
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I'm not really sure where he is to be honest. Hopefully hes close to deciding to sending the stuff back?
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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do you know how to read ! did i stutter ?
your insistence on attacking me makes me want to help you out see the attachments paypal laid
so the fact that they were from your hood, and the fact that
it out nice and clear
your insistence on attacking me makes me want to help you out see the attachments paypal laid
so the fact that they were from your hood, and the fact that
it out nice and clear
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [SBRcanuck]
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dude im in Toronto he sending me a label for the the states let me just swim across lake ontario
also want me to bend over at take the hit on duty and forwarding fee's
also want me to bend over at take the hit on duty and forwarding fee's
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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If you didn't list up my groupset for sale and shipped it back to me, none of this would have happened. Let me know when you are going to send it.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [loxx0050]
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read the whole thread before giving your opinion
i have traded over 10k worth of gear with brian richards
i have traded over 10k worth of gear with brian richards
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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Not calling you a scammer as I've never bought or sold things with you. But keeping somebody's item after you got a refund and not returning their item isn't exactly legal and would be considered theft. I know that's what I'd do in that situation.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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Yes, I talked to Brian today. So are you going to send back my money or my groupset? I'm still happy to send out the charger to you.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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I love this post fact world we live in.
people i have sold swag to via here off FB issues as a seller
items sold the past 30 days
Krystaline Ruiz srap etap group
Virginia Kabe powertap
Josh Leblanc zipp 808 powertap
Frank Shreve madone 9 series with aeolus comp
David Chalupa bontrager accosories
John Gamrat bontrager accories
Jimmy Ho trek speed concept 9
Hadley Carpenter sram etap group with quarq
Thomas Burberry trek 9 series
Che Hodgins elite realturbo muin
Michael Williams trek sc gen 7.5
Kelvin Mahli sram XG 11-26
people i have sold swag to via here off FB issues as a seller
items sold the past 30 days
Krystaline Ruiz srap etap group
Virginia Kabe powertap
Josh Leblanc zipp 808 powertap
Frank Shreve madone 9 series with aeolus comp
David Chalupa bontrager accosories
John Gamrat bontrager accories
Jimmy Ho trek speed concept 9
Hadley Carpenter sram etap group with quarq
Thomas Burberry trek 9 series
Che Hodgins elite realturbo muin
Michael Williams trek sc gen 7.5
Kelvin Mahli sram XG 11-26
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [loxx0050]
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did you read the situation the label sent is to ship from within the US
i am willing to ship back with a proper label but i am not paying the bill for someone else's mistake would you do that ? $333 in duty, brokerage and shipping
i am willing to ship back with a proper label but i am not paying the bill for someone else's mistake would you do that ? $333 in duty, brokerage and shipping
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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Yes, but you do realize you still have my money and my groupset right?
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [skinnyguy]
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fishy, i am paying from a paypal verified merchant account, you wanted to charge me 200 to ship a set of wheels i could have provided a prepaid fedex label. not sure whats sketchy about that.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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i need a label that covers for canada to the us
also the imports fee's am i to take that as a loss or is that the fee's you charge for this wonderful experience
Ebay 7 year no issues
ST 3 year 1 issue resolved amicably negative feedback fixed
pink bike 0 issues
also the imports fee's am i to take that as a loss or is that the fee's you charge for this wonderful experience
Ebay 7 year no issues
ST 3 year 1 issue resolved amicably negative feedback fixed
pink bike 0 issues
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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please see attachments
send me a prepaid label shipping from Canada to you !
the PayPal refund happened 2 days ago !
- Purchased a group from the seller
- the group i purchased was for my team bike from 2017 i needed a good cheap group to sell it with, since this arrived not complete.The group had been forwarded to me from American mail and parcels, the shop i store my outgoing gear at. It was forwarded to Toronto, Canada where i am up visiting family before heading back down south post the the holidays.
I ended up having to upgrade the bike to an sram red 22 Etap group because that all i had which was a loss on my part. It was going to a serviceman deploying to Afghanistan and was time sensitive. At this point i was still willing to ship back.
original cost of the group $820 ( $820 was refunded by PayPal )
$820 USD to CAD via xe.com $1060 CAD
cost duty into Canada
via http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/...acl/est-cal-eng.html
$317 CAD via to USD via xe.com $249 USD
cost of forwarding service $8
cost of brokerage service $32
cost of shipping from the mail forwarder in champlain NY $44
cost of being trolled harasses priceless ! lol
my cost despite the refund : 333 USD
- He failed to ship the agreed upon package as advertised.
- I requested i ship it back and he refund me
- he booted me from swap meet where he is an admin , and stop responding so block him as well on every platform to force PayPal based communication
- i open a claim with PayPal offering the same scenario as before. I return for a refund what he had sent
- He refused , the claim escalated
- he did not refund me as stated PayPal intervened and settled on my behalf since the seller was not willing to take it back. Refund came after i called PayPal and with assistance with forwarding needed documents so you have hard time with truth i was on the phone with PayPal when they were reviewing the case and they told me they would refund me since he was not willing to
- called PayPal to ask what to do about the goods they told whatever, he made it clear he was not taking back.
what makes me irritated and is slowing down the resolution time
- i was willing to send the goods back when trying to locate the original listing i noticed he had banned me despite not violating any of the rules.
-Seller has been having friends troll me on FB, I have had 48 messages from his mignons and 28 missed calls from random California #'s where he shipped from just today
- I had requested to have the seller communicate via PayPal instead of everywhere else all at once holding my hostage. - I was given a return label yes but the the wrong location without comunication
I have been at the track in Pan am velodrome in Burlington Ontario eh ! since Wednesday this is my first time able to actually respond at my desktop.
I will do my best to respond to all the questions everyone, im am getting via call text Facebook from his consented friends and family
Still willing to work with you despite how great of an experience this has been but it would be a lot easier without the harassment.
i have + 600 feedback on my ebay i have no current negative feedback here my only negative feedback if this and i am the buyer. 127 selling transaction in the year without any major bumps.
send me a prepaid label shipping from Canada to you !
the PayPal refund happened 2 days ago !
- Purchased a group from the seller
- the group i purchased was for my team bike from 2017 i needed a good cheap group to sell it with, since this arrived not complete.The group had been forwarded to me from American mail and parcels, the shop i store my outgoing gear at. It was forwarded to Toronto, Canada where i am up visiting family before heading back down south post the the holidays.
I ended up having to upgrade the bike to an sram red 22 Etap group because that all i had which was a loss on my part. It was going to a serviceman deploying to Afghanistan and was time sensitive. At this point i was still willing to ship back.
original cost of the group $820 ( $820 was refunded by PayPal )
$820 USD to CAD via xe.com $1060 CAD
cost duty into Canada
via http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/...acl/est-cal-eng.html
$317 CAD via to USD via xe.com $249 USD
cost of forwarding service $8
cost of brokerage service $32
cost of shipping from the mail forwarder in champlain NY $44
cost of being trolled harasses priceless ! lol
my cost despite the refund : 333 USD
- He failed to ship the agreed upon package as advertised.
- I requested i ship it back and he refund me
- he booted me from swap meet where he is an admin , and stop responding so block him as well on every platform to force PayPal based communication
- i open a claim with PayPal offering the same scenario as before. I return for a refund what he had sent
- He refused , the claim escalated
- he did not refund me as stated PayPal intervened and settled on my behalf since the seller was not willing to take it back. Refund came after i called PayPal and with assistance with forwarding needed documents so you have hard time with truth i was on the phone with PayPal when they were reviewing the case and they told me they would refund me since he was not willing to
- called PayPal to ask what to do about the goods they told whatever, he made it clear he was not taking back.
what makes me irritated and is slowing down the resolution time
- i was willing to send the goods back when trying to locate the original listing i noticed he had banned me despite not violating any of the rules.
-Seller has been having friends troll me on FB, I have had 48 messages from his mignons and 28 missed calls from random California #'s where he shipped from just today
- I had requested to have the seller communicate via PayPal instead of everywhere else all at once holding my hostage. - I was given a return label yes but the the wrong location without comunication
I have been at the track in Pan am velodrome in Burlington Ontario eh ! since Wednesday this is my first time able to actually respond at my desktop.
I will do my best to respond to all the questions everyone, im am getting via call text Facebook from his consented friends and family
Still willing to work with you despite how great of an experience this has been but it would be a lot easier without the harassment.
i have + 600 feedback on my ebay i have no current negative feedback here my only negative feedback if this and i am the buyer. 127 selling transaction in the year without any major bumps.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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I read that but you still need to either return it or pay for it. But how you negotiatable the duty is between you and the OP.
I would think you shouldn't have to pay duties on an item you aren't selling, doesn't belong to you and returning. But that's something you'll have to figure out how to proceed.
I would think you shouldn't have to pay duties on an item you aren't selling, doesn't belong to you and returning. But that's something you'll have to figure out how to proceed.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [loxx0050]
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well thats seems logical to me, expecting me to pay $333 fee's for item i am sending back is ridiculus
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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unitedathletica wrote:
well thats seems logical to me, expecting me to pay $333 fee's for item i am sending back is ridiculusQuote:
At this point i was still willing to ship back.So why are you unwilling to send it back now? Because Paypal is not requiring you to to get your refund?
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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Quote:
i was willing to send the goods back when trying to locate the original listingSo send them back. Post proof.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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I called the forwarding location you ship your items to and they said you come in often. I really doubt you are paying any duties or any forwarding fees beyond a mailbox.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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lol did they now, they did send me an email giving me a recap of your conversation saying i was there once a month. Doubt all you want i will forward the invoice they sent me and i paid.
cheers
cheers
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [kram]
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Because i will be out $333 get up to speed before giving your opinion
Would you return something at a cost of $333 hit on something you are getting nothing out of ?
Would you return something at a cost of $333 hit on something you are getting nothing out of ?
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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unitedathletica wrote:
Because i will be out $333 get up to speed before giving your opinion Would you return something at a cost of $333 hit on something you are getting nothing out of ?
I'll chime in as I have been buying and selling to and from the US for 20+ years now...
First, if I am understanding correctly, you had the seller ship to a US address that you use, and then had that re-mailing company send to you in Canada - that was your choice to import goods. The seller shipped to the US, and thus provided you a return mailing slip for the US... -You- decided to import to Canada.. If I have misunderstood this, I apologize.
Second - the duty. So lets get one thing straight, you likely didn't pay 'duty', you paid import tax which would have been equivalent to sales tax to the province you were importing to. AND, I know for a fact, that once you provide proof that you returned the goods to the seller, Canada Customs will issue you a refund of those charges. Its 10 minutes worth of paperwork you can find online. So stop saying you'll be out $300+ dollars. And again, it was your choice to import.
You started all this because the group arrived without a charger?
Why don't you make everything cool and return his goods, and apply for your refund with Canada Customs for the import charges. Better than ruining your reputation here.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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You agreed to have it shipped to an address in the US, right?
To my understanding, it is buyer's responsibility to check it before bringing it to somewhere else, paying duty and etc.
If using eTap is such a loss to you, why didn't you just buy a charger locally?
To my understanding, it is buyer's responsibility to check it before bringing it to somewhere else, paying duty and etc.
If using eTap is such a loss to you, why didn't you just buy a charger locally?
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [SBRcanuck]
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sadly, i dont think the guy will ever understand it. we are talking about a grown man that tried to justify theft simply because he missed a deal.
you are totally correct, the seller didnt cost him the fees, the seller also wouldnt be responsible for cost of shipping from Canada in my opinion. they shipped to the U.S., the buyer then is responsible for everything from that point on, and would be responsible for getting it back to their forwarder for shipping back to the seller.
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you are totally correct, the seller didnt cost him the fees, the seller also wouldnt be responsible for cost of shipping from Canada in my opinion. they shipped to the U.S., the buyer then is responsible for everything from that point on, and would be responsible for getting it back to their forwarder for shipping back to the seller.
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Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [wiRIDEfast]
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Agree....
I've bought/sold a ton of stuff online, and always go out of my way to make things easy for the person I am doing a transaction with. Not worth doing it any other way.
For Garry:
https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/...er/crp-prio-eng.html
I've bought/sold a ton of stuff online, and always go out of my way to make things easy for the person I am doing a transaction with. Not worth doing it any other way.
For Garry:
https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/...er/crp-prio-eng.html
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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unitedathletica wrote:
Because i will be out $333 get up to speed before giving your opinion Would you return something at a cost of $333 hit on something you are getting nothing out of ?
You already said twice that you were okay with returning the group. Not that anyone believes what you say.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [SBRcanuck]
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Have you ever been shipped anything fedex to canada It’s like going to the dentist :) Most of the items were in retail packages And labels new
Keep in mind you’re proposing a hypothesis based on your past experience. I wish they would have used usps/ post canada nothing ever gets hit with duty.
As well as the battery charger there is no E tube from Junction in the rear to the battery so the group was unuseable for me to ship.
Its a $30 cabel @ wheels of bloor but its more about he frustration of being irnored why i tried to initiate a return , and being booted by the the seller.
I Have the receipt of what I was charged by the Forwarding company this is one of the documents I forwarded to PayPal when they We’re evaluating my case.
It was my choice to import , it was not my choice to get a partial set up.
If the seller would have been willing to accept return when i first requested it
I had a friend travalling to Rochester
Also at the time i had not recieved my invoive from the shipping company.
I get a By weekly invoice everything they ship oht for me.
Thanks for your imput
Keep in mind you’re proposing a hypothesis based on your past experience. I wish they would have used usps/ post canada nothing ever gets hit with duty.
As well as the battery charger there is no E tube from Junction in the rear to the battery so the group was unuseable for me to ship.
Its a $30 cabel @ wheels of bloor but its more about he frustration of being irnored why i tried to initiate a return , and being booted by the the seller.
I Have the receipt of what I was charged by the Forwarding company this is one of the documents I forwarded to PayPal when they We’re evaluating my case.
It was my choice to import , it was not my choice to get a partial set up.
If the seller would have been willing to accept return when i first requested it
I had a friend travalling to Rochester
Also at the time i had not recieved my invoive from the shipping company.
I get a By weekly invoice everything they ship oht for me.
Thanks for your imput
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unitedathletica: Nov 18, 17 5:14
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [aki]
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Shipping was time sensitive , and i was in gulph Ontario visiting a friend and getting rhe rig ready to ship via bikefight and as i told the seller were none in stock in the area i would have had to drive a good distance.
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unitedathletica: Nov 18, 17 5:11
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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unitedathletica wrote:
Have you ever been shipped anything fedex to canada It’s like going to the dentist :) Most of the items were in retail packages And labels new Keep in mind you’re proposing a hypothesis based on your past experience. I wish they would have used usps/ post canada nothing ever gets hit with duty.
As well as the battery charger there is no E tube from Junction in the rear to the battery so the group was unuseable for me to ship.
Its a $30 cabel @ wheels of bloor but its more about he frustration of being irnored why i tried to initiate a return , and being booted by the the seller.
I Have the receipt of what I was charged by the Forwarding company this is one of the documents I forwarded to PayPal when they We’re evaluating my case.
It was my choice to import , it was not my choice to get a partial set up.
If the seller would have been willing to accept return when i first requested it
I had a friend travalling to Rochester
Also at the time i had not recieved my invoive from the shipping company.
I get a By weekly invoice everything they ship oht for me.
Thanks for tou imput
Garry, I've bought from you in the past, and it worked out fine. So not looking to slam you at all here.
But, you are the one who has decided to use a freight forwarding company, which always adds expense, time, etc.
And, it doesn't matter whether it is a courier company (FedEx, UPS), or postal, you can still get a refund for your import tax (again, you didn't pay 'duty'). Yes, you may be out a few bucks for the 'brokerage' fee the courier would have charged, but it was your choice to import.
You are trying to punish the seller because you are not happy. Thats not a legal reason to steal money or goods.
You should resolve it by returning the goods and applying for the tax refund. Otherwise, the seller should file a report with the RCMP. Paypal isn't the law, you don't have the right to keep both the money and the groupset.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [SBRcanuck]
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It's a good thought , have you gone through that process before on the commercial side. Also its done by a third party so i would need them and im sure they would not do it for free.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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unitedathletica wrote:
It's a good thought , have you gone through that process before on the commercial side. Also its done by a third party so i would need them and im sure they would not do it for free.If I'm not mistaken, the bill for the import tax would have been from FedEx (or UPS) to you, no? I guess the question is, who paid the $333 import tax, you, or the forwarding company?
Assuming it was you, you need to fill out the forms, and print off / copy your receipts showing you shipped the items back, and then copies of your receipts and/or bank statement showing the money was refunded to you. That is your proof that the transaction was cancelled, then Canada Customs issues you a refund check in the mail.
Should be full info on the process in the links I provided.
Again, you are an active seller, not worth ruining your reputation over a transaction you weren't happy with.
Cheers
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [SBRcanuck]
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hes trying to justify theft because the seller forgot something and he missed out on a deal. absolutely ridiculous. That alone tells you what type of person he really is.
At this point not only should he return it, but he really NEEDS to return it. If he doesnt, hes done here basically. I highly doubt anyone whom reads any of this will deal with him ever unless the seller posts this was taken care of. Its been posted numerous locations on facebook so same there. He can change his username, but as soon as people see any information associated with him theyll just stop the deal. I dont see people letting this calm down or slip down in posts until resolved.
united, get your customs fees back and eat the cost of the shipping to your forwarder so that the prepaid label can be used. Show that you're not scumbag and can be trusted.
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At this point not only should he return it, but he really NEEDS to return it. If he doesnt, hes done here basically. I highly doubt anyone whom reads any of this will deal with him ever unless the seller posts this was taken care of. Its been posted numerous locations on facebook so same there. He can change his username, but as soon as people see any information associated with him theyll just stop the deal. I dont see people letting this calm down or slip down in posts until resolved.
united, get your customs fees back and eat the cost of the shipping to your forwarder so that the prepaid label can be used. Show that you're not scumbag and can be trusted.
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Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [wiRIDEfast]
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wiRIDEfast wrote:
... united, get your customs fees back and eat the cost of the shipping to your forwarder so that the prepaid label can be used. Show that you're not scumbag and can be trusted.
Agreed.
Make it right, even if you eat some shipping costs. This whole thing never should have happened, especially due to a missing charger, of which half the cycling population, and almost every bike shop, has. :)
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [SBRcanuck]
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the forwarding company takes care of things a to z i just needed to provide information on what should have been included in the original purchase. the duty cost i may not get back
Also i have linked what i had available im waiting on the shipper to be able to provide me more details.
Keep in mind paypal sided with for a reason and the attachment showed the paypal refund was not done willingly as claimed this is not an opinion its a fact.
i am still communicating with the seller to try and work something out.
Also i have linked what i had available im waiting on the shipper to be able to provide me more details.
Keep in mind paypal sided with for a reason and the attachment showed the paypal refund was not done willingly as claimed this is not an opinion its a fact.
i am still communicating with the seller to try and work something out.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [SBRcanuck]
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SBRcanuck wrote:
Again, you are an active seller, not worth ruining your reputation over a transaction you weren't happy with.
Cheers
This. You're digging a deep hole, and every time you post some lame excuse for why you aren't making this right, you dig a bit deeper.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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Positive feedback for unitedathletica from October purchased a trek speed concept XS from this seller, everything was as described, shipping from within the US forwarded from NY state as advertised
seems like his reputation is being held hostage after a seller tried to take advantage
seems like his reputation is being held hostage after a seller tried to take advantage
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [lenadacleana]
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Ha, nice try. He has a less than stellar reputation. Others have had issues. The seller didn’t try to take advantage. The buyer did. He chose a different direction and wanted to return after the seller was willing to send out the missing part. Buyer then got money back and instead of being an honest upstanding person and sending the items back he decided to be a DISHONEST THIEF.
There is no other explanation, what he is doing is theft. That is plain and simple. He is trying to come up with every reason to justify why he is or should be a thief, but it doesn’t change the fact that he is a thief until he returns the goods.
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There is no other explanation, what he is doing is theft. That is plain and simple. He is trying to come up with every reason to justify why he is or should be a thief, but it doesn’t change the fact that he is a thief until he returns the goods.
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Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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As I have said, I called paypal to refund you because I figured you would return the groupset. My mistake.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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You should never issue a refund before the goods are returned.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [lenadacleana]
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lenadacleana wrote:
Positive feedback for unitedathletica from October purchased a trek speed concept XS from this seller, everything was as described, shipping from within the US forwarded from NY state as advertised seems like his reputation is being held hostage after a seller tried to take advantage
He has the money and the parts but the seller is the one trying to take advantage?
The point is, ladies and gentleman, that speed, for lack of a better word, is good. Speed is right, Speed works. Speed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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unitedathletica wrote:
If the seller would have been willing to accept return when i first requested it I had a friend travalling to Rochester
When a transaction involves friends or could only be saved by friends (or “cousins†) traveling to Rochester, something has gone terribly wrong.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [wiRIDEfast]
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I have been here for about 4 years. I have purchased and sold many items without any hiccups. I have recently purchased from UA and got the item as described without any issues but it sounds as though others have run into some issue. I have read through the post and see it is quite a cluster. Everyone can form their own opinion on the situation but can see a general trend.
I recently purchased from what I thought was a reputable seller and he took my money and never shipped the Etap set. PP refunded my money but I found it discouraging to be defrauded here. I always felt I could buy with confidence on ST but that is changing.
I wish the two parties would just work it out amicably and do the honorable thing. Let’s preserve the integrity of the classified section. I believe we all would benefit if we could.
I recently purchased from what I thought was a reputable seller and he took my money and never shipped the Etap set. PP refunded my money but I found it discouraging to be defrauded here. I always felt I could buy with confidence on ST but that is changing.
I wish the two parties would just work it out amicably and do the honorable thing. Let’s preserve the integrity of the classified section. I believe we all would benefit if we could.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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I also wish I didn't have to resort to this, but he was not responding to any other form of contact and has said that he doesn't care that he stole from me.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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you did not agree to the refund, paypal forced it. pay ruled in my favor and not
'' the seller agreed to refund ''
'' the seller agreed to refund ''
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Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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Still attempting to justify theft? Give it up man. Send him his group set back.
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Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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i have 1 card to the group the seller
has trolled me at every corner, we are communicating to find a resolution privatly then he comes here and keeps pilling in on.
i bought a group that did not arrive as described
I requested a return for refund ( he gave me the middle finger response )
I opened a case with paypal. he booted from the group abusing his admin privileges
( offering the same resolution he gave the middle finger response )
I called in paypal, while on the phone they reviewed and granted me a refund that was 3 days ago.
As much as i am enjoying your opinion issues need to address. he is an experience would he really send a refund without getting his money.
today
9 various missed calls from unknown #'s from his area code
19 FB messages just telling me im shit
its hard to see when there is a high fecal matter content in my eyes.
and this fun experience
has trolled me at every corner, we are communicating to find a resolution privatly then he comes here and keeps pilling in on.
i bought a group that did not arrive as described
I requested a return for refund ( he gave me the middle finger response )
I opened a case with paypal. he booted from the group abusing his admin privileges
( offering the same resolution he gave the middle finger response )
I called in paypal, while on the phone they reviewed and granted me a refund that was 3 days ago.
As much as i am enjoying your opinion issues need to address. he is an experience would he really send a refund without getting his money.
today
9 various missed calls from unknown #'s from his area code
19 FB messages just telling me im shit
its hard to see when there is a high fecal matter content in my eyes.
and this fun experience
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [DFW_Tri]
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Hey Paul,
i appreciate the imput its helping i hope you enjoyed the dash saddle you bought from me, we did not seem to have any issues with our transaction
thanks
i appreciate the imput its helping i hope you enjoyed the dash saddle you bought from me, we did not seem to have any issues with our transaction
thanks
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [SBRcanuck]
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hey kevin how did that bontrager hilo saddle workout for you ? smooth any feedback as described
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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unitedathletica wrote:
hey kevin how did that bontrager hilo saddle workout for you ? smooth any feedback as describedLike I said in my earlier post, my transaction with you was fine.
I don't think that justifies you keeping -both- the money and the groupset in this case. Thats theft. Doesn't really matter if you are pissed off, you can't keep both.
Hopefully you guys come to an agreement..
PS. I hated the f'ing saddle! lol. But thats not your fault. :)
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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Why doesn't he send you the charger, which he offered to do, and you return his money. I don't think he was under any obligation to refund your money and accept a return. Sounds like he honestly forgot to include the charger and offered to ship it to you which would have made your deal whole.
He ships you the charger, you'll have a complete groupset, which you can keep or resell if you choose.
He ships you the charger, you'll have a complete groupset, which you can keep or resell if you choose.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [SBRcanuck]
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Should i pay the $333 bill or import shipping and fee's
i understand shipping being on my but that fact that i am 3rd party and won't be able to get the duty i was slapped with really suck.
i understand shipping being on my but that fact that i am 3rd party and won't be able to get the duty i was slapped with really suck.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
[ In reply to ]
wouldn’t you have had to pay the $333 import taxes regardless? if the group was complete, that would have still been owed either way right? and if he sends you the charger it’s not like you have to pay again?
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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unitedathletica wrote:
Should i pay the $333 bill or import shipping and fee's i understand shipping being on my but that fact that i am 3rd party and won't be able to get the duty i was slapped with really suck.
What would you have done if he had not forgotten to ship the charger? Fuss about the $333 and demand a refund?
You think that $333 is a lot, think about how much you will lose when nobody buys anything from you after reading about what kind of person you are. Between here and various FB groups, I've seen half a dozen people come forward and say they had issues with sending you money and never getting their stuff. I was actually interested in buying some of the stuff you had listed here for sale. Not anymore.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [kram]
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Yes from all the negative feedback i have received in the past thanks for the feedback!
I feel like im having a conversation with Ben Carson.
Now i know why Rick destroyed the council of ricks.
I feel like im having a conversation with Ben Carson.
Now i know why Rick destroyed the council of ricks.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [lenadacleana]
[ In reply to ]
Man I feel bad for that dude that stole for OP he is just on another level of pathetic.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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unitedathletica wrote:
Should i pay the $333 bill or import shipping and fee's i understand shipping being on my but that fact that i am 3rd party and won't be able to get the duty i was slapped with really suck.
Well, first of all, you STILL can't keep both the money and the groupset - theft IMHO.
With regards to the $333 taxes and shipping fees - the shipping fees are on you, you chose to essentially ship the product a second time via your re-mailer. The taxes - are you saying that your importer paid them for you, and now you have to pay the importer? Then getting the refund is a discussion between you and them. They must have some way.....what if someone imported a 10k item through them, and needed to return it...they must have a way to recoup the 1500 taxes on behalf of the buyer as long as paperwork is filed?
Anyway, you need to discuss that with your importer, and in the meantime, either send the groupset back or his money back.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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Thanks for all the responses all. I'm not personally telling ANYBODY to harass or get in contact with you. I only made your information public so others may not fall in to the same trap, just to help some other folks out. It is the weekend though so I don't really expect him to make a label until Monday.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with!
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critical thinking, no longer a thing ?
Paypal granted him the refund because the seller would not budge
He is being trolled here on FB swap meet which he can not defend since he was booted
The seller is misleading in his story, if he would have agreed to the refund the message from PayPal to the buyer would have been. these are scripted.
'' Seller agreed to a return, we've determined that you'll be
eligible for a refund (including handling and shipping) once you've
returned the merchandise to the seller. ''
So the is not being honest about the transaction
Legally speaking the buyer owes you nothing as per the PayPal User Agreement
Not saying he should keep the money and the groupset but seller should take some of the responsibility.
Also its 820 $ it was 3 days ago, way to give the buyer time to respond keep in mind its a holiday season people are traveling.
Your using vinegar instead of Honey, Your holding his reputation hostage
this could be seen as Exaction and Defamation Of Character.
hopefully you guys come to an amicable agreement.
best of luck
Paypal granted him the refund because the seller would not budge
He is being trolled here on FB swap meet which he can not defend since he was booted
The seller is misleading in his story, if he would have agreed to the refund the message from PayPal to the buyer would have been. these are scripted.
'' Seller agreed to a return, we've determined that you'll be
eligible for a refund (including handling and shipping) once you've
returned the merchandise to the seller. ''
So the is not being honest about the transaction
Legally speaking the buyer owes you nothing as per the PayPal User Agreement
Not saying he should keep the money and the groupset but seller should take some of the responsibility.
Also its 820 $ it was 3 days ago, way to give the buyer time to respond keep in mind its a holiday season people are traveling.
Your using vinegar instead of Honey, Your holding his reputation hostage
this could be seen as Exaction and Defamation Of Character.
hopefully you guys come to an amicable agreement.
best of luck
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lenadacleana: Nov 18, 17 15:27
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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Why are you bringing up a 2 year old sale with me? I don’t remember you but apparently had no issue with the transaction. Great. That doesn’t mean the concerns raised here aren’t legit
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [lenadacleana]
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I was willing to work it out these were my terms
- You will cover the cost os a shipping label from bike flight
- The phone calls stop, where ever you posted my # take it down
- Take down your post from ST and the swop meet i keep getting harassed
- The fee's will be split '' duty. '' only
If you are are alright with this terms then we can move forward.
the response i received
1. Sure
2. I'll take your number down, but no guarantees they'll stop, I didn't tell anyone to do anything ( so you did post my personal information )
3. No, I will close them and tell them the issue is resolved, but I will not delete them. because your word has been so great so far ! i had no issues before you !
4. There should be no duty according to the other members. the opinion of another member or the proof i have forwarded or a government website !
https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/dte-acl/est-cal-eng.html
original cost of the group $820 ( $820 was refunded by PayPal )
$820 USD to CAD via xe.com $1060 CAD
cost duty into Canada
via http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/...acl/est-cal-eng.html
$317 CAD via to USD via xe.com $249 USD
cost of forwarding service $8
cost of brokerage service $32
cost of shipping from the mail forwarder in champlain NY $44
cost of being trolled harasses priceless ! lol
my cost despite the refund : 333 USD
i tried to meet you halfway.
- You will cover the cost os a shipping label from bike flight
- The phone calls stop, where ever you posted my # take it down
- Take down your post from ST and the swop meet i keep getting harassed
- The fee's will be split '' duty. '' only
If you are are alright with this terms then we can move forward.
the response i received
1. Sure
2. I'll take your number down, but no guarantees they'll stop, I didn't tell anyone to do anything ( so you did post my personal information )
3. No, I will close them and tell them the issue is resolved, but I will not delete them. because your word has been so great so far ! i had no issues before you !
4. There should be no duty according to the other members. the opinion of another member or the proof i have forwarded or a government website !
https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/dte-acl/est-cal-eng.html
original cost of the group $820 ( $820 was refunded by PayPal )
$820 USD to CAD via xe.com $1060 CAD
cost duty into Canada
via http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/...acl/est-cal-eng.html
$317 CAD via to USD via xe.com $249 USD
cost of forwarding service $8
cost of brokerage service $32
cost of shipping from the mail forwarder in champlain NY $44
cost of being trolled harasses priceless ! lol
my cost despite the refund : 333 USD
i tried to meet you halfway.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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unitedathletica wrote:
- Purchased a group from the seller
- the group i purchased was for my team bike from 2017 i needed a good cheap group to sell it with, since this arrived not complete.The group had been forwarded to me from American mail and parcels, the shop i store my outgoing gear at. It was forwarded to Toronto, Canada where i am up visiting family before heading back down south post the the holidays.
I ended up having to upgrade the bike to an sram red 22 Etap group because that all i had which was a loss on my part. It was going to a serviceman deploying to Afghanistan and was time sensitive. At this point i was still willing to ship back.
original cost of the group $820 ( $820 was refunded by PayPal )
$820 USD to CAD via xe.com $1060 CAD
cost duty into Canada
via http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/...acl/est-cal-eng.html
$317 CAD via to USD via xe.com $249 USD
cost of forwarding service $8
cost of brokerage service $32
cost of shipping from the mail forwarder in champlain NY $44
cost of being trolled harasses priceless ! lol
my cost despite the refund : 333 USD
Trying to confirm the following:
1. Where did you have the seller (or instruct) to have the goods shipped to? (location in the US or Canada)
2. If US to above question, then did you decide to use a freight forwarder or brokerage to send it to your shop in Canada (where ever that is)?
3. Again only if answered US to question 1 - Did you inform the seller you'd be sending the goods to Canada in the end and the seller would be on the hook for duties and forwarding fees?
4. Prior to the forwarding the goods to the final destination did nobody inspect it to make sure it was complete prior to exporting it to Canada?
Just trying to confirm this information. Others have come to a conclusion on my questions but I wanted to make sure from you.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [loxx0050]
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loxx0050 wrote:
unitedathletica wrote:
- Purchased a group from the seller
- the group i purchased was for my team bike from 2017 i needed a good cheap group to sell it with, since this arrived not complete.The group had been forwarded to me from American mail and parcels, the shop i store my outgoing gear at. It was forwarded to Toronto, Canada where i am up visiting family before heading back down south post the the holidays.
I ended up having to upgrade the bike to an sram red 22 Etap group because that all i had which was a loss on my part. It was going to a serviceman deploying to Afghanistan and was time sensitive. At this point i was still willing to ship back.
original cost of the group $820 ( $820 was refunded by PayPal )
$820 USD to CAD via xe.com $1060 CAD
cost duty into Canada
via http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/...acl/est-cal-eng.html
$317 CAD via to USD via xe.com $249 USD
cost of forwarding service $8
cost of brokerage service $32
cost of shipping from the mail forwarder in champlain NY $44
cost of being trolled harasses priceless ! lol
my cost despite the refund : 333 USD
Trying to confirm the following:
1. Where did you have the seller (or instruct) to have the goods shipped to? (location in the US or Canada)
2. If US to above question, then did you decide to use a freight forwarder or brokerage to send it to your shop in Canada (where ever that is)?
3. Again only if answered US to question 1 - Did you inform the seller you'd be sending the goods to Canada in the end and the seller would be on the hook for duties and forwarding fees?
4. Prior to the forwarding the goods to the final destination did nobody inspect it to make sure it was complete prior to exporting it to Canada?
Just trying to confirm this information. Others have come to a conclusion on my questions but I wanted to make sure from you.
All the above costs minus the $249 USD are 100% the buyers responsibility for wanting to bring across the border the way he did. Also, since he's used the cross border service before he would be well aware of the additional costs associated with the service - the broker fee, the forwarding service, and the shipping cost from the mail forwarding service.
As has been pointed out he'll get a refund of the $249 USD / $317 cdn charge once he proves he's returned the product and filled out the necessary paperwork.
So hurry up and ship the groupset back.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [loxx0050]
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Also, another funny fact is if you plug the numbers in to the government link you sent, it spits out under $160 CAD.
Response to your... responses:
2. Yes I have outlined this before. There is nothing illegal about that. It's public.
3. If you look at all the proof I have given, you'll see that your statement is false.
4. You're right, they're not the government.
Ughhh, he said someone threatened him with violence and now hes going "the legal way"? You mean the legal way of not stealing my stuff? :/
Response to your... responses:
2. Yes I have outlined this before. There is nothing illegal about that. It's public.
3. If you look at all the proof I have given, you'll see that your statement is false.
4. You're right, they're not the government.
Ughhh, he said someone threatened him with violence and now hes going "the legal way"? You mean the legal way of not stealing my stuff? :/
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dudemanppl: Nov 18, 17 18:53
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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funny i got the same thing he did.
i contacted him about the threat of violence and he sent me the screen shot.
He made an effort to meet half way. Either way still trolling.
''original cost of the group $820 ( $820 was refunded by PayPal )
$820 USD to CAD via xe.com $1060 CAD
cost duty into Canada
via http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/...acl/est-cal-eng.html
$317 CAD via to USD via xe.com $249 USD
cost of forwarding service $8
cost of brokerage service $32
cost of shipping from the mail forwarder in NY $44
my cost despite the refund : 333 USD ''
i contacted him about the threat of violence and he sent me the screen shot.
He made an effort to meet half way. Either way still trolling.
''original cost of the group $820 ( $820 was refunded by PayPal )
$820 USD to CAD via xe.com $1060 CAD
cost duty into Canada
via http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/...acl/est-cal-eng.html
$317 CAD via to USD via xe.com $249 USD
cost of forwarding service $8
cost of brokerage service $32
cost of shipping from the mail forwarder in NY $44
my cost despite the refund : 333 USD ''
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [lenadacleana]
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Nice, more lies. I have never sent him a screenshot in any of my correspondences with him. I have never told any one to threaten him with violence. I just present all the facts and folks do as they please.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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I’ve no dog in this fight, merely rubber necking this car crash.
From the reaction of “unitedathletica†in their posts, I don’t find them trustworthy.
The whole import issue into Canada is nothing to do with the seller. The groupo was sold to a US address.
Regardless of the correspondence that’s gone before, no doubt both sides frustrated, the buyer has the refund and the groupset and is refusing to return it.
That is plain wrong. The buyer decided they didn’t want the groupset anymore, so is responsible for getting the groupset back to the seller. The seller made a big error in refunding the sale in the hope the buyer would do the right thing. I doubt PayPal resolution centre would refund the sale without proof that the return had happened, which further leads me to believe the seller.
Finally, I don’t know who “lenadacleana†is, but their post history involves only unitedathletica’s posts and seller feedback. That, to me, is highly suspect given the character of unitedathletica being displayed in their own posts here.
The simple fact is the buyer has the refund and the product yet still is trying to justify not returning either.
I will avoid slowtwitch’s classifieds if this is the rigmarole one has to go through.
From the reaction of “unitedathletica†in their posts, I don’t find them trustworthy.
The whole import issue into Canada is nothing to do with the seller. The groupo was sold to a US address.
Regardless of the correspondence that’s gone before, no doubt both sides frustrated, the buyer has the refund and the groupset and is refusing to return it.
That is plain wrong. The buyer decided they didn’t want the groupset anymore, so is responsible for getting the groupset back to the seller. The seller made a big error in refunding the sale in the hope the buyer would do the right thing. I doubt PayPal resolution centre would refund the sale without proof that the return had happened, which further leads me to believe the seller.
Finally, I don’t know who “lenadacleana†is, but their post history involves only unitedathletica’s posts and seller feedback. That, to me, is highly suspect given the character of unitedathletica being displayed in their own posts here.
The simple fact is the buyer has the refund and the product yet still is trying to justify not returning either.
I will avoid slowtwitch’s classifieds if this is the rigmarole one has to go through.
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JerseyBigfoot: Nov 19, 17 1:16
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [JerseyBigfoot]
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Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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Yeah, I've sold thousands here over the last few years with no issues whatsoever. I've never had this happen before, which explains why I don't really know what to do.
It seems like he is keeping the parts after all.
It seems like he is keeping the parts after all.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [JerseyBigfoot]
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JerseyBigfoot wrote:
Finally, I don’t know who “lenadacleana†is, but their post history involves only unitedathletica’s posts and seller feedback. That, to me, is highly suspect given the character of unitedathletica being displayed in their own posts here.
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site admins could just compare ip addresses, i think
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [SBRcanuck]
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SBRcanuck wrote:
If he has both your money and gear, can you not contact his local PD for help?I'm actually curious about which PD the OP should contact to now pursue this more formally .... Can anyone who has read this full thread (and is knowledgeable about resolving these types of things) point him to the correct authority?
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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Yes please. I have a police report filed with my local PD just as a record, but I don't even know where this guy lives other than somewhere in Canada.
I like how he doesn't understand that he stole it from me.
I like how he doesn't understand that he stole it from me.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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Was about to buy some parts from this guy but definitelly won’t do it.
Asked me to leave good feedback for him even before finishing the deal.
Asked me to leave good feedback for him even before finishing the deal.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [skinnyguy]
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skinnyguy wrote:
I almost sold a set f wheels to this guy via Pinkbike also. Has two accounts here I believe. garry_tri and unitedathletica. Everything was fishy. Nothing was going to be easy. Ship to one location. Nope ship to this location. Nope I'll send a prepaid shipping box. I feel for you mann. This guy seems like a difficult one to please and deal with. I hope he does the right thing by you.I had a similar interaction with him. It wasn't anywhere near like the problem our OP is having, but I tried to buy some SRAM stuff from him and nothing was ever easy. The original benefit was that he was 'local' to me in Toronto, but trying to set up a time to meet with Garry seemed like mission impossible; He could only meet downtown (which is out of the way, but fine). I'd tell him a day that that I'd be downtown and he'd tell me to message him in the morning for a time and location. When I'd message him that morning, he'd get back to me that evening (after the day was done), saying he could meet me the next day (...wtf?). This went on a couple of times and it just seemed like a wierd charade that went nowhere or with any follow through on his part. I even replied to one of his other adds just to get his attention. He then suggested shipping, but never got back to me (...and I was tired of chasing after him).
None of this is anywhere near what the OP reported. But none the less, left me with an odd sense of Garry.
Now to see that he's justifying keeping the Di2 set after accepting a full refund from paypal is pretty low. Trying to negotiate a further settlement after the paypal refund, just to send the Di2 groupset back is even lower.
..This is theft, plain and simple. Garry, man up and send it back.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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I’ll share a similar story of my own. I sold a guy a pair of shoes on eBay a few years ago. I accidentally listed the size wrong. I shipped the shoes to an address in Florida. The guy I sold the shoes to actually lived in Brazil, just used a family member’s address for easy purchases. When he got the shoes he wanted a return as I accidentally listed the size incorrectly. The return shipping from Brazil would have been $50, not the $9 I paid to send to Florida. The guy filed a formal complaint with eBay since I would not pay the $50 for return shipping on $30 shoes. eBay sided with me. I could not have known the buyer would take the shoes out of country.
That’s a precident. This guy could have taken your group to Antarctica before requesting a refund. Doesn’t mean you’re obligated for the extra shipping.
That’s a precident. This guy could have taken your group to Antarctica before requesting a refund. Doesn’t mean you’re obligated for the extra shipping.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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Did you use USPS for the US leg? Could you go after him for postal fraud?
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [davetallo]
[ In reply to ]
USPS, I have no idea.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [adktriguy46]
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I am fairly sure I had the identical type of transaction on eBay and I bet from the same buyer
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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He's said he went into Wheels of Bloor, which is a shop located in Toronto, ON Canada. He also mentioned travelling to Guelph which is 40 min from Toronto, so I would assume he is from there, or at least residing there. So you'd want to contact Toronto Police Service (torontopolice.on.ca).
I really don't get how he was charged $333. I have purchased many things from the US and had them shipped here in Canada and all the duties are is the tax on the good(s). The highest provincial sales tax is 15%, where you typically get killed on is the brokerage fee, which is what they charge for paying the duties for you. UPS is by far the worst but at the highest sales tax it should be no where near $333. Anyway duties are always my responsibilities and why I ask people to mark at a lower value or send to a PO Box in the US so I can pick it up.
I looked him up on FB, he seems to like to use Tri 'n Sell it and Buy and Sell Time Trial but not Toronto Road/CX group to sell stuff, maybe doesn't want to crap in his own backyard.
I really don't get how he was charged $333. I have purchased many things from the US and had them shipped here in Canada and all the duties are is the tax on the good(s). The highest provincial sales tax is 15%, where you typically get killed on is the brokerage fee, which is what they charge for paying the duties for you. UPS is by far the worst but at the highest sales tax it should be no where near $333. Anyway duties are always my responsibilities and why I ask people to mark at a lower value or send to a PO Box in the US so I can pick it up.
I looked him up on FB, he seems to like to use Tri 'n Sell it and Buy and Sell Time Trial but not Toronto Road/CX group to sell stuff, maybe doesn't want to crap in his own backyard.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [Scott_D]
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Scott_D wrote:
He's said he went into Wheels of Bloor, which is a shop located in Toronto, ON Canada. He also mentioned travelling to Guelph which is 40 min from Toronto, so I would assume he is from there, or at least residing there. So you'd want to contact Toronto Police Service (torontopolice.on.ca). I really don't get how he was charged $333. I have purchased many things from the US and had them shipped here in Canada and all the duties are is the tax on the good(s). The highest provincial sales tax is 15%, where you typically get killed on is the brokerage fee, which is what they charge for paying the duties for you. UPS is by far the worst but at the highest sales tax it should be no where near $333. Anyway duties are always my responsibilities and why I ask people to mark at a lower value or send to a PO Box in the US so I can pick it up.
All depends on the value that was declared for the groupset when shipped to Canada, if he is including shipping chargers from his re-shipper in the US, etc.
I import to Canada all the time, and I understand that whether or not it goes well, whether or not something fits, etc., all the import stuff and return shipping costs are gonna be on me.
If he doesn't offer the groupset or money back to the seller, I'd just go ahead and file a report with the Toronto police as listed above, or the OPP (Ontario Prov. Police), https://www.opp.ca
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [SBRcanuck]
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Disappointed he didn't answer my simple questions. Just want some clarification from him directly to clear up the transaction details and what happened after the seller completed their obligation (minus a missing part).
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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One small thing to note, not that it really matters, but I had no idea it was going to Canada.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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It definitely matters. You had no idea he was taking across an international border. Shouldn’t matter if it was Canada or Syria the principle is the same. He can’t realistically except you to pay more for shipping since it’s destiation moved.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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I hope you get this figured out and either get your groupset back or he refunds you back 100% of the money he has kept.
In my opinion, you are not obligated to pay for any additional or associated cost he is trying to blame you for - those were all incurred by his own choice. Sending him the return shipping label from the US shipping point is all you are required to do, it's his problem to figure out how to get it there as it was his choice and problem of how to "get" it from there.
From the start, I would not have accepted any sort of return either - forgetting to ship the charger and then offering to ship it out to complete the sale would have made him whole. He could have sold the bike with your set and advised the buyer he was going to forward him the charger in a week after he received it - but really in the end, none of that has any sort of bearing on you or the sale...again these where the buyers choice of handling.
I'll make sure NEVER to buy or look to sell anything to this person - headache transactions I really want to avoid!
Keep us updated.
In my opinion, you are not obligated to pay for any additional or associated cost he is trying to blame you for - those were all incurred by his own choice. Sending him the return shipping label from the US shipping point is all you are required to do, it's his problem to figure out how to get it there as it was his choice and problem of how to "get" it from there.
From the start, I would not have accepted any sort of return either - forgetting to ship the charger and then offering to ship it out to complete the sale would have made him whole. He could have sold the bike with your set and advised the buyer he was going to forward him the charger in a week after he received it - but really in the end, none of that has any sort of bearing on you or the sale...again these where the buyers choice of handling.
I'll make sure NEVER to buy or look to sell anything to this person - headache transactions I really want to avoid!
Keep us updated.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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dudemanppl wrote:
One small thing to note, not that it really matters, but I had no idea it was going to Canada.Even if you -did- know he planned to export to Canada from US, it doesn't matter, it was his choice to have it mailed from you to a point in the US. After that, you are done.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [SBRcanuck]
[ In reply to ]
Spoke with a detective buddy of mine about this, he deals with this kind of stuff often-
His view-Gary doesn't have the money to refund and he has already sold the parts so he can't send them back...and based upon everything I have read, I am guessing that is exactly the situation.
Good luck to the OP, I would file police reports and document everything...and Gary better hope all his import/export docs are in place or his troubles are going to greatly increase.
His view-Gary doesn't have the money to refund and he has already sold the parts so he can't send them back...and based upon everything I have read, I am guessing that is exactly the situation.
Good luck to the OP, I would file police reports and document everything...and Gary better hope all his import/export docs are in place or his troubles are going to greatly increase.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
[ In reply to ]
First of all I am sorry to hear this happened and is still ongoing.
Second, you likely saved me from a pretty serious headache or financial quagmire by posting this, so thank you.
I'd like to Venmo you $5 as a small token of gratitude, just let me know where to send it to.
Second, you likely saved me from a pretty serious headache or financial quagmire by posting this, so thank you.
I'd like to Venmo you $5 as a small token of gratitude, just let me know where to send it to.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [unitedathletica]
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unitedathletica wrote:
Have you ever been shipped anything fedex to canada It’s like going to the dentist :) Most of the items were in retail packages And labels new Keep in mind you’re proposing a hypothesis based on your past experience. I wish they would have used usps/ post canada nothing ever gets hit with duty.
As well as the battery charger there is no E tube from Junction in the rear to the battery so the group was unuseable for me to ship.
Its a $30 cabel @ wheels of bloor but its more about he frustration of being irnored why i tried to initiate a return , and being booted by the the seller.
I Have the receipt of what I was charged by the Forwarding company this is one of the documents I forwarded to PayPal when they We’re evaluating my case.
It was my choice to import , it was not my choice to get a partial set up.
If the seller would have been willing to accept return when i first requested it
I had a friend travalling to Rochester
Also at the time i had not recieved my invoive from the shipping company.
I get a By weekly invoice everything they ship oht for me.
Thanks for your imput
I already have a headache reading this....
Here is my take.
It sounds like your operating as a business, so if that's the case- why the hell are you buying stuff to resell on forums? Beyond that, why would you expect business class service and a customer service return department? Let alone, for the seller to eat the shipping charges.
If you were able to pick up the goods from the US address you provided, why don't you give back to the US address you provided, then use the shipping label the seller gave you for the US address?
If it means anything, I never expect refunds on forum deals or eBay for that matter. I have purchased items in error and sellers would not allow refunds. I simply resold the items on eBay or the forum.
Funny how I'm literally watching a di2 group on eBay now. Lol
I would buy the groupo and get it off your hands and the seller, but it obviously doesn't seem like I could trust I would get it!
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [ilikepizza]
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Just an update, still working with him on this but at least he's responding.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
[ In reply to ]
dudemanppl wrote:
Just an update, still working with him on this but at least he's responding.Good luck-hope it all works out.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
[ In reply to ]
Resolved yet? (and a bump)
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [kram]
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Hes about to pay me back I think
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
[ In reply to ]
He's selling them on FB right now in both of the triathlon sale pages.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [HM3Malek]
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Uh oh, screenshot please?
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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this is by far the most entertaining thread on slowtwitch this year
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Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
[ In reply to ]
He deleted the posts I linked this thread to but he still has other groups he's trying to sell in.
http://imgur.com/BGGF8Lu
http://imgur.com/BGGF8Lu
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [HM3Malek]
[ In reply to ]
So my guess would be that he is looking to sell the set to get the $$ he needs to pay you back because shipping the set would cost him too much extra $$. Based on what has happened so far I would also guess that if he sells your stuff at a loss........that is what he is going to offer to pay you back.
Keep up the faith my brother!
http://imgur.com/BGGF8Lu
Keep up the faith my brother!
HM3Malek wrote:
He deleted the posts I linked this thread to but he still has other groups he's trying to sell in. http://imgur.com/BGGF8Lu
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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Garry told me to delete my post before he sends my money back. I think thats ridiculous, but I don't really care since his reputation is gone anyway.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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dudemanppl wrote:
Garry told me to delete my post before he sends my money back. I think thats ridiculous, but I don't really care since his reputation is gone anyway.Bet you $4 vs $5CAD you don't get your money back...Good luck, hope it works out.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [pots4]
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pots4 wrote:
dudemanppl wrote:
Garry told me to delete my post before he sends my money back. I think thats ridiculous, but I don't really care since his reputation is gone anyway.Bet you $4 vs $5CAD you don't get your money back...Good luck, hope it works out.
I wish you weren't right on that...
Holy shit I hope nobody ever has to deal with him.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
[ In reply to ]
dudemanppl wrote:
pots4 wrote:
dudemanppl wrote:
Garry told me to delete my post before he sends my money back. I think thats ridiculous, but I don't really care since his reputation is gone anyway.Bet you $4 vs $5CAD you don't get your money back...Good luck, hope it works out.
I wish you weren't right on that...
Holy shit I hope nobody ever has to deal with him.
Thanks for taking one for the team to prove what a scammer he is instead of deleting it like he asked, getting your money back (theoretically) and letting everything think it worked out okay, even if it took longer than it should.
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Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [Toby]
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I hope he shows up to a race and fellow STers recognize his name, call him out on his shit.
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Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [Im-a-miler]
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Anytime this guy posts stuff for sale on here we should make a reply and remind everyone of this. This guy is bad news.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
[ In reply to ]
dudemanppl wrote:
pots4 wrote:
dudemanppl wrote:
Garry told me to delete my post before he sends my money back. I think thats ridiculous, but I don't really care since his reputation is gone anyway.Bet you $4 vs $5CAD you don't get your money back...Good luck, hope it works out.
I wish you weren't right on that...
Holy shit I hope nobody ever has to deal with him.
Does Garry not realize that only the admins can completely remove an entire thread/post? One can only delete their own comments or posts only but not all of the responses by other parties and definitely not an entire thread.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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THIS GUY IS SO DIM. He says he is trying to get site admins to delete the thread BEFORE sending my money back OR my items. He’s about to get himself banned. What an idiot.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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So Gary has the product which was originally shipped to USA and then relocates the item to Canada, deciding it's too late to receive the misplaced battery and wants a refund. Money is refunded and Gary wants additional funds for duties and fees to ship back product out of now Canada when it was originally shipped to USA, requiring no duties and fees.
It takes feedback from the Slowtwitch and Facebook world for him to finally decide he's just going to return the original payment and keep the product. However, to make it more difficult and have the last word, he is holding payment in exchange for having his name wiped clean...
You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. If Gary wants to make things right, he needs to apologize and hope to do business with others in the future. If he feels differently, then he's hurting his chances of gaining trust as a seller and buyer.
I hope this gets reconciled.
"Heart Rate, Watts, I have no idea, I race, I don't pace." Andrew Starykowicz
It takes feedback from the Slowtwitch and Facebook world for him to finally decide he's just going to return the original payment and keep the product. However, to make it more difficult and have the last word, he is holding payment in exchange for having his name wiped clean...
You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. If Gary wants to make things right, he needs to apologize and hope to do business with others in the future. If he feels differently, then he's hurting his chances of gaining trust as a seller and buyer.
I hope this gets reconciled.
"Heart Rate, Watts, I have no idea, I race, I don't pace." Andrew Starykowicz
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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dudemanppl wrote:
THIS GUY IS SO DIM. He says he is trying to get site admins to delete the thread BEFORE sending my money back OR my items. He’s about to get himself banned. What an idiot.I still think you should put a call in to the Ontario police.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [SBRcanuck]
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SBRcanuck wrote:
dudemanppl wrote:
THIS GUY IS SO DIM. He says he is trying to get site admins to delete the thread BEFORE sending my money back OR my items. He’s about to get himself banned. What an idiot.I still think you should put a call in to the Ontario police.
Still think it points to "he doesn't have the money or the parts" theory...
Step it up to fraud and have Paypal and the Ontario police take it from here-you have more than enough info for them to deal with it.
Good luck
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [adktriguy46]
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adktriguy46 wrote:
Anytime this guy posts stuff for sale on here we should make a reply and remind everyone of this. This guy is bad news.Agreed
And Bump
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [kram]
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kram wrote:
adktriguy46 wrote:
Anytime this guy posts stuff for sale on here we should make a reply and remind everyone of this. This guy is bad news.Agreed
And Bump
BUMP
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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Update:
He actually sent my money back! But ya know, don't do business with him.
He actually sent my money back! But ya know, don't do business with him.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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Good to hear. Sorry for your ordeal.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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dudemanppl wrote:
Update: He actually sent my money back! But ya know, don't do business with him.
Finally! Guess I can stop bumping this.
(bump)
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [kram]
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kram wrote:
dudemanppl wrote:
Update: He actually sent my money back! But ya know, don't do business with him.
Finally! Guess I can stop bumping this.
(bump)
nah-
BUMP
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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In other news, Garry still has my money actually. If anyone can help out, that would be appreciated.
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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WHAT? I followed this thread pretty closely at the time, and I'm SHOCKED. /pink
But seriously Garry.... wtf
But seriously Garry.... wtf
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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How did this happen? Didn’t he send you the money? Essentially repaying for the parts?
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Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [wiRIDEfast]
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Long story... but either way I am still out of money and my Di2 group
Re: Scammer: unitedathletica/Garry Mathieu Do not deal with! [dudemanppl]
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BUMP... as this POS still hasn't bucked up...