What is the current wait for a V8?
If you order today, it would ship either next week, or the following week. In 3 weeks, we double our weekly manufacturing shipments and shipping will be same week as an order is placed
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Updates:
- Saddles shipping same week as order placed beginning next week.
- BTS Double Bottle Brackets arrive to us first week of September
Now, for a bit under the hood:
We’ve been working on a hybrid saddle that has dimensions of the Mags and of the V8, the M8 (as if the saddles mated) for some time. It’s the saddle I want to ride road/gravel on because I ride with my hips anteriorly rotated so far forward.
Then, Wurf reached out last week asking if we can get going on the M8 sooner before Nice because he’s going to be sitting up so much, so we got moving quickly. First samples will ship to us September 3rd in time for Nice.
the Wove M8
- 43mm wide nose (V8 is 54.5 and the Mags is 31)
- 136mm rear (V8 and Mags are 146) because never really on the rear when M8 ridden as intended: rotated forward.
- channel width same as V8 (18mm at the nose; 4mm wider than the Mags)
- rear bottle mounting the same as on the V8
- front/mid foam thickness in between Mags and V8
- rear foam thickness same as Mags
- only carbon rails
This saddle is for road/gravel riders whose hips are rotated forward, and TT riders needing a thinner nose
For TT/Tri, I personally really prefer the V8 54.5 nose width, so will stick with that, and the Mags for when I’m sitting up more and on weight weenie builds.
Next up?
lower priced but still very lightweight hollow chromoly rail versions of the Mags and V8 scheduled to ship to us at the beginning of October, with the hope to bring some to Kona. The Mags Metal and V8 Metal - as seen on the side of our packaging where we check off what’s inside the box:
F8? mtb/gravel saddle slated for post-Kona. only metal rails
oh yeah, we updated our Mags saddle to have a bit more foam in the middle of the nose, a 2mm wider channel at the nose, and the nose slopes down some from that thicker foam to get out of the way. Old Mags on Left, New Mags on Right. those began shipping last week.
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The M8 sounds brilliant! The V8 has been great, and the only bit of feedback that I’ve really thought of when riding is that I wish the nose was a bit shorter and narrower right in the front. When I’m not riding right on the rails on higher power efforts, there’s just a bit too much nose underneath me say when I want to scootch back and really rotate the pelvis forward on a downhill. The front of square nose can either slightly rub or at least be a bit clunky in those cases. I was even thinking, 1cm shorter nose and the very front taper to be a few mm less wide than the main channel- sounds almost exactly like what you drew up for the M8. The V8 is still awesome, an evolution and more options are even better.
Nick, out of curiosity is the M8 UCI legal? I could definitely see this being a great saddle for UCI TTs where world tour riders are used to road saddles/angles, ride really hard and aggressively for short times right on the nose, and have be be a few mm behind the bottom bracket by UCI rules. Like how the Prologo TT saddle or the Specialized Power or similar are used on most pro tour TT setups. There would probably a a decent market for that, based on how uncomfortable some (many) pro tour riders look on TT saddles.
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The V8 is definitely a saddle made for being in the aerobars, so you’re spot on! I would not change anything with regard to it when you are in the bars.
The M8 is the same UCI legal 295mm length as the V8, so the only change is the more narrow nose and more narrow rear and foam thickness, and tweaks in shaping. It will not provide the same amount of stability when in the aerobars, but I do know some people will enjoy it for TT/Tri. It is definitely a breakaway artist’s saddle!
If the V8 had a 1cm shorter nose, the rider’s rear of their hamstring would often rub against the wing of the saddle. doh.
Was just out with Lim and a World Tour rider this morning doing aero testing and they are on the V8. No issue being right at the BB, or behind the BB. note: keeping saddles clamp pretty much in the middle of the rails and using seatposts with forward and rear offset is always the way to go from an engineering standpoint when it comes to extreme fore/aft positions.
Hi Nick – any ballpark specs on the Mags Metal and V8 Metal? I’m mostly curious about estimated price, weight, and clamp force. Thanks!
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Estimated price & weight is $310 & 210g on the Mags Metal! and $320 & 265g on the V8 Metal!
Clamp force for all saddles is what’s suggested by the clamp manufacturer, not by us.
ETA is October.
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When does the V2 start shipping? If I had a saddle shipped in the middle of August I assume that was the older design?
Mid August would be this V2 design!
We’re shipping within 6 business days of orders being placed
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Will the Metal V8 have round rails? Or still 7x9mm?
Metal round rails will only come in 7 mm round diameter.
(The only time I have seen oval rails for metal is when they are 3D printed ti and that was only a Chinese sample at eurobike in June, and I have not seen that for sale)
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