Hayden Strikes Back!
ProTriNews says he has modified to be in compliance…
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It didnt have to be this way… but T100 and Hayden brought it up… We were ready to let it go! Glad its compliant now…
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what about the shoes? haven’t seen any comment from t100. Did they accept Haydens self DQ or not?
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We reached out for statements from t100 and World Triathlon and they have declined to comment
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So T100 trying to make Hayden vs anyone questioning their enforcement of the rules the new Sam vs Sam. Interesting direction to go.
“We were ready to let it go!”
LOL this doesn’t quite work with your next statement:
“We reached out for statements from t100 and World Triathlon and they have declined to comment”
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It’s a bad look for world Tri and t 100.
“We were ready to let it go!” was related to the bottle cages
“We reached out for statements from t100 and World Triathlon and they have declined to comment” - was related to the shoes
So two different things.
Anyway “for all the haters out there” is just lame and pathetic
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BUT in the microvideo Wilde is using an incorrect reference point for the front edge of the 25cm template.
The reference point the lowest (under the elbow point) part of the arm rest, not the rear ‘edge’. Otherwise one could just extend the armrest a few cm to get the ‘extra’ distance for a bottle.
So even this new Canyon aero bottle position, with the cut out after Frejus and in time for Oropesa del Mar, may be illegal Would need informed visual inspection rather than from video images.
Danger of knocking bottle off when in BTA position is a fair shout. In which case why not leave the bottle on the down tube: access is not improved when lifted, upside down, BTA.
WT Interpretation doc: “When measured from the lowest edge of the arm support (if none exists, the lowest edge of the athlete’s elbow in the rider’s intended aero position)” Image below is from the ‘hydration/fairings’ thread hopefully illustrating the correct reference point.
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Yeah,the old Kafka Trap argument. A very common way to try to throw your “opposition” off balance in a discussion.Accuse people of being haters,making them try to defend an unprovable accusation instead if the actual issue being discussed.
Happens here on ST all the time.
Why is T100 marketing so cringe?
back on topic… Endurance Picks
It’s how you get clicks…
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Actual wording is “When measured from the lowest edge of the arm support (if none exists, the lowest edge of the athlete’s elbow in the rider’s intended aero position)”
The lowest edge of the arm support is what Hayden pushes it against in my interpretation.
It probably should always be the lowest point of the elbow (to avoid extending the arm supports backwards like you say) but that is not the current wording. Presume they chose the lowest edge to make it easier to check.
Yep. Without visual inspection I cannot tell from the images whether Wilde’s armrest curls up slightly* (most do, including the Canyon cockpit I’ve checked) or whether it carries on down, thus making the rear edge also “the lowest edge”. Other athletes at the sharp end have been careful (and made effort) to ensure their set ups are clearly within the rules. Worth noting that this interpretation is a World Tri doc and no IRONMAN rules refer to it. But Wilde is subject to WT Rules for ‘all’ his draft illegal races.
- If it doesn’t curl up after the elbow it’s a fairing. There is no structural or functional reason for extending it down and rear.
Dragging this across for the image:
From the T100 preview video:
This is the reference point as defined not the rearmost edge of the armrest (obv imho):
at 7:05
The top bottle cage with a one litre bottle fitted (which is the implementation criterion) is also illegally positioned, or on the limit (depends on reference point choice).
Since this thread has now become the Hayden Wilde video reaction thread maybe cha ge the title and start a new Spain thread.
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@Bryancd maybe rename this and start a 'run up and race day thread??
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Not so sure about that, triathlon fans love to debate this kind of stuff, thread would probably do bigger numbers on here than the actual race itself!
Im confused, I had T100 Ibiza in my calendar next weekend, this race has crept up on me from nowhere (glad I didn’t plan on racing Ibiza, was the only one I had my eye on) is this actually taking place in Ibiza?
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No. Ibiza morphed into Valencia many moons ago. Can you change your Ibiza flight to one to VLC? 