I donât think thereâs anything left to consider. The message is out there. The way they have announced and launched everything recent here says it all and I think we should take them at their word.
As far as what their goal is I can only assume itâs to own and run a successful Internet forum. With that success being measured with participation, growth, and fiscal returns. Unfortunately Iâve been a member on other forums that have turned into wastelands.
I was on a Jeep wrangler forum. Also a very niche and loyal community. The site was acquired and chopped up into (currently) 36 sub forums and their âanything goesâ type forum excluded politics in their updates. The place is just dead and has been for years. It used to have daily content in each forum.
Iâm obviously one poster with an opinion. But others have stated or alluded to similar experiences. We will obviously have to wait around and see but I really donât think we need to wait for their specific categories to understand where theyâre going with this.
Hey, dumpy, it doesnât take a genius to figure out the changes or at least come up with a well-educated guess. Theyâve already shown their cards with how they split up the other side of this circus.
In fact I already addressed this when you made a similar claim the first time but you didnât respond.
@E_DUB you dropped a bombshell on us last night and havenât given any other feedback or responses. But you come back and start âlikingâ lastlapâs replies.
Dan Empfied âI have always taken the title publisher here at Slowtwitch and I will remain publisher. For sure, when a brand comes under new ownership and the acquirer says, âWeâre changing nothing,â theyâre busy planning all the changes and layoffs as theyâre telling you that lie. Nevertheless, weâre changing nothing. Weâre adding! But weâre not subtracting. â(To my knowledge.)
I donât think itâs a stretch when I say people have acted a little hystericaly at the news of new categories and potentially limiting discussion of things like politics.
As the OP says certain topics bring out the worst in people and add nothing to the good of the forum. This thread is a great example, I have been personally insulted on numerous occasions⌠And when you have a pack dynamic bullies flourish.
Iâd imagine there are probably a heck of a lot of people who would otherwise want to post here but donât because they take one look and nup out
oh, I know there was a womenâs forum, was making a joke⌠would be funny if the LR got split off into one.
if it does Iâll have to figure out here the line is on questions I can and canât ask about sex
The OP says we can expect new categories that sum up the âgoodâ of the lavender room.
The use of sub-forums as categories to organize information, instead of tags, is weird, and Iâm not sure why someone would choose to create silos of information instead of choosing to enhance the userâs experience through tags. But the OP must know what heâs doing, right? A person doesnât buy a website and redesign it without understanding that the ability of people to easily find the information they want is essential to success.
If we have to have sub-forums, I vote for the tried and true dewy decimal system. If it works for libraries, it works for me. Or does the OP want to use categories to ban topics? Like the way MAGA bans books from libraries? No LGBTQ discussions?
If people donât post in the correct sub-forum, is the OP going to move threads? If we persistently misfile our threads, will we get banned? I assume the new guidelines will address when a thread evolves from discussion of one topic to another. Or is evolution banned?
The OP plans to get rid of âtotally inappropriateâ content that doesnât âupliftâ the endurance community. Thankfully he mentions new guidelines. I canât wait to see them!
I was recently banned for saying things that Trump said. Strangely, we also have entire threads devoted to things Trump said. I recently posted a video of kids saying things Trump said. What if JD Vance repeats things Trump says? Can we quote him? What if synthetic or oldtrigal repeat the lies Trump saysâ is that bad?
I think it will be interesting and entertaining to learn what the new owner thinks are the âgoodâ topics. The most difficult and divisive topics these days are political onesâ they are also very important to people. Does the owner think he will improve the LR by removing what people are passionate about? Good luck with that.
I donât think the changes are carefully planned. It would be fun if the OP responds to comments and can defend his plan. Or maybe heâs chicken. lol
In any event, I guess weâll go down in flames if weâre going to go down. Flame-broiled chicken lol
Weâll never know how many people are too scared to post, will we? Unless I do an anonymous poll! User names will not be shown.
Are you too scared to post?
Yes
No
0voters
But no one answers my polls anyway. lol I think people donât want to post for a variety of reasons. Not everyone is a blabbermouth. It could be as simple as that.
Guidelines can be very effective to identify unacceptable behavior. If you donât like insults or name-calling, then insults or name-calling should be banned.
Broadly speaking, we are in a very uncivil time in society. I approve of the desire to clean it up. However, I donât think the cleanup starts on the floor. When you spill milk on the counter, you start the cleanup at the top. Good leaders set the tone. While the milk is raining down, cleaning the mess on the floor is a silly waste of time.
For instance, if you want civility in Americaâ then we need to reject Trump who engages in ridiculous insults abd name-calling at a national and international level. Unless we do that, civility will be a distant memory.
I donât know what the OP envisions for civility, but his OP wasnât very civil.
I suspect the issue is the time it takes to moderate for civility on lavender alone. It is a fun place to visit because of the general interest topics and there are people here who are honest contributors. As it usually goes the few rotten apples do spoil the whole. That will not go away. Even on the main forum there is on occasion lack of civility, just way less of it. I think it is a moderation issue.
Replying in general (remember that old feature?)âŚ.
I saw the Tri forum now has those sub categories setup. And the uncategorized LR has a whopping >87k of uncategorized topics. Curious to see what the next changes will be.
I do think this is headed towards Reddit-like setup. I think theyâre also running on the Discord tech, and weâll be headed to a version of sub reddits and niche topics.
I worry that whatâll get lost is the serendipitous discovery of interesting info if things get overly structured. I like easily opening a thread just bc it piques my interest (or not opening it).
Itâs kinda like how I used to look up a word in the (old school) dictionary, and then just browse some of the adjacent listings. Cool stuff learned that way. But that mode has gone the way of the dinosaur.
I hope the uniqueness that makes this place special is retained. And folks that are managing this space donât throw out the baby with the bath water.